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Ems new album
World justarandomguy 
So em has a new album Whatcha think
2018-09-01 06:05
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India fulltiltkid 
g4rb0
2018-09-01 06:15
why?
2018-09-01 13:07
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Paraguay HighAlching 
because he enjoys gucci gang and 6ix9ine
2018-09-01 15:37
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India fulltiltkid 
true
2018-09-01 17:30
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Europe raein 
some good songs, some bad ones, i rate it 6.5/10
2018-09-01 06:16
i think its his 4th best imo, but it has no real theme so its prob aobut a 7 or 8
2018-09-01 06:19
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South Africa nimmaJ 
It has a very clear theme? Hes dissing everyone who called out his 2017 album revival as well as giving is thoughts on the newer generation rappers.
2018-09-01 06:56
but thats not rly a theme for me
2018-09-01 07:08
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South Africa nimmaJ 
"Theme for me" that's now how themes work. If theres a theme theres a theme, you disliking the theme is something completely different.
2018-09-01 07:19
no i like it but its not a theme
2018-09-01 07:24
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South Africa nimmaJ 
You're literally arguing that a theme isnt a theme
2018-09-01 07:27
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United Kingdom Duckbit 
For once, an American actually has a good point... Silly baguette man ^
2018-09-01 13:09
+1
2018-09-01 16:51
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Other Bobylon 
whatcha think
2018-09-01 06:26
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United States Doge14 
Some good songs, a few weird ones and a few trash ones
2018-09-01 06:33
What did you like/did not like?
2018-09-02 23:24
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Indonesia rusat 
who>
2018-09-01 06:45
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South Africa nimmaJ 
I honestly think most of this album went over peoples heads after the comments I've read. His flow and meter on the first 3 songs is literally better than any 3 songs any rapper has released this year. So many double entandres, destroyed liked 20 different rappers throughout the album, exposed the "culture" of today's rap, cleared up a lot of things about D12...I could go on.
2018-09-01 06:55
I agree
2018-09-01 13:02
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Lithuania Sealll 
I agree
2018-09-01 14:02
i agree
2018-09-01 14:03
+1
2018-09-01 14:23
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Thanks all :)
2018-09-01 15:59
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Ukraine 60hzgods 
Em fanboy spotted. Go suck your own dick. Haha.
2018-09-01 17:13
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Didn't i already destroy you in another thread?
2018-09-01 17:15
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Ukraine 60hzgods 
Typical burger hahaha lets go fanboy you have to defend eminem like 10 other forums.
2018-09-01 17:16
Good luck getting annexed. Fool.
2018-09-01 17:52
Danish em fanboy. I didnt know that HLTV has rare species in it.
2018-09-01 20:33
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Norway AleXeiCS 
Em is a proper rapper
2018-09-02 08:38
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South Africa nimmaJ 
0/8
2018-09-01 17:58
prbly, most of the audience is just comparing this album to his previous. em is the only rapper I can listen to, but it isn't his best album for me. I'm a bit disappointed but who am I to question his album)
2018-09-01 17:26
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Its obviously not his best album, his best albums are among the top albums ever statistically.
2018-09-01 17:29
Half the people today are to dumb to understand half of the meaning in his music this was a pretty good album atleast 7.5 or 8 / 10
2018-09-02 07:20
Like, we already kinda knew this about D12, but hearing everything from eminem was 100x more sad...
2018-09-02 23:24
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Exactly it's in the open now
2018-09-02 23:25
Yes.. "The truth is when proof died so did the group" "It's not goodbye to our friendship, but D12 is over" :(((
2018-09-02 23:27
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Hit me hard
2018-09-02 23:32
Really hard :(
2018-09-02 23:34
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Russia Jovlk 
Many young individuals are obsessed with rap which I could hardly call music at all while there is so much undiscovered kind of music that would influence them and had great impact on their lives. Yet they prefer to stick to clowns who can't sing but acting monkeys in the videos.
2018-09-01 07:01
stfu stop trying to act better because you listen to a certain type of music we dont fucking say we are better than you because we listen to this certain type
2018-09-01 07:09
It doesn't matter and many of you still do. This music has a negative effect on you, my friend start taking drugs being influenced by Lil Peep. Another friend ran away from home because he liked the lyrics of some rap song and it encouraged him. I just want to call you idiots, I want what's the best for you but I can't help it if you realise what you're doing and still wanting to bury yourselves. Enjoy.
2018-09-01 07:11
so...2 people means that the whole music is bad? iv listen to it my whole life and i dont do any of that shit or my friends you are dumb 0/8
2018-09-01 07:26
You just don't think of the things you do in any bad way. I'm sure you can't communicate properly to other people as you have already shown me. Thanks.
2018-09-01 07:27
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Says the person who constantly claims superiority over people because of their music taste. The lack of self-awareness is always so strong with you
2018-09-01 14:17
Not doing so anymore. For a very long time. And there's nothing wrong in what I said, feel free to prove otherwise and I will admit it.
2018-09-01 14:21
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South Africa nimmaJ 
You JUST did it though lmao. Prove what wrong? Are you actually questioning whether the overall impact of rap music is good?
2018-09-01 14:22
I provided a couple of examples from my life and those are true. You can't deny the fact that rap lovers don't wear suits and ties and unaware of manners, let alone any kind of morale. If you will cover this up with progress and evolution, be it but I think it is degradation for music has obvious influence on the generation it is produced to.
2018-09-01 14:25
Barack Obama's favourite song of 2015 was how much a dollar cost by kendrick lamar. A rapper. You're braindead. Rap is more than just singing about taking drugs and shit. You evidently know nothing about it.
2018-09-01 14:29
What Barack Obama's favorite song has got to do with the rap thing overall? Is he some kind of epitome of the perfect man or what? I really don't know much about it and I don't yearn to know more about it. The whole concept of it is very clear, it barely requires any talent or skill, the main priority in it is how badly you're willing to change your looks for fame and how fast you can mumble. It is anything but music in my humble opinion and I'm saddened how low industry fell.
2018-09-01 15:18
"You can't deny the fact that rap lovers don't wear suits and ties and unaware of manners, let alone any kind of morale." Yet the former president of the US loves rap. That's why I mentioned Obama. "I really don't know much about it and I don't yearn to know more about it." That's the point. How can you say that something is so bad, and then take the moral high road like you're literally Jesus or something, when you have no clue what you are talking about? "The main priority in it is how badly you're willing to change your looks for fame and how fast you can mumble." Do you even know who Eminem is? Because we are here to talk about him, not other rappers btw. Eminem doesn't rap about drugs. This entire fucking album is about taking the piss out of people who rap about drugs all the time and change their looks and mumble. So I'd think that you'd like it, right? No. I bet you haven't even listened to any of it, nor any Eminem song, but you're going to come on here and say what you're saying? People like you who just make judgements without any knowledge on something are the worst kind of people. Honestly just stop typing anything, I'm not even a diehard Eminem fan or rap fan, I listen to all music, but I just despise people like you. You're a closed-minded immature little man-child and you need to get off the internet. Go tell your friends that they're fucking autistic.
2018-09-01 15:37
I listened to Eminem before and I know what kind of an artist is that. I can't call him a musician or a singer because he doesn't do either one. He's no match for actual art gians of this direction but he's enjoyable, I suppose, many like him. My statement still stands though because he ain't go anything good going in his favor, less this, less that but the main concept is the same.
2018-09-01 16:38
Eminem doesn't make music. Eminem doesn't sing. You're hopeless to talk to. I prove you wrong in everything and you come back with some shit like that? Goodbye lmao
2018-09-01 17:16
I skipped the moment when you proved me wrong while I'm stating the obvious and turning out to be hopeless. This generation though, the more you know.
2018-09-01 17:20
Definition of singing: make musical sounds with the voice, especially words with a set tune. Definition of music: an art of sound in time that expresses ideas and emotions in significant forms through the elements of rhythm, melody, harmony, and color. Therefore Eminem is both a singer and a musician. Whether you think he is a good one or not is irrelevant. So how have you been stating the obvious in any comment you've made? You've lost, give up please.
2018-09-01 19:18
Definition of singing is making harmony with the music by producing certain tunes upon played chords. His music doesn't even have chords, just a flow and a pile of rhymes that any teenager could come up with. I agree any music is music since it makes pleasant sounds but he's not a musician (unless he produces those farts himself, in that case I'm forced to take it back even though it's not even real instruments therefore not real music), and he's not a singer for he rhymes, mumbles, reads, whatever but not singing.
2018-09-02 05:09
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Dont know why you linked the definition of singing when I already proved music doesnt have to have singing. "A pile of rhymes that anyone could come up with" No, very few people are as gifted as him at it, that's the point. Even more ignorance by you, his rhyme schemes, flow, and stories are so much better than pretty much all of the rappers today that you're saying can do the same thing as him. If youre actually dumb enough to think that anyone could do what he does youre moronic and furthermore you have NO PROOF of that, if anyone could do it than everyone would especially with how fast rap is growing and how many people want to be rappers. You actually know nothing about rap and shouldnt talk about it, that was the dumbest thing I've read in a while. Yeah singing is a potential aspect of music doesnt have to have singing to be a song but everything that IS singing is music. Get it?
2018-09-02 05:45
It can't be a song if nobody sings it. Instrumentals is a different story, either instrument replaces vocals but in this case, he's clearly not either one. And it's not hard writing rhymes. Show me where he wrote lyrics for an actual songs with chords in it and in certain key then I will congratulate him.
2018-09-02 05:45
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Muisc: vocal or instrumental sounds (or both) combined in such a way as to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion. Vocals NOT singing. Vocals are anything that comes from the voice. Definition of vocal 1a : uttered by the voice : oral b : produced in the larynx : uttered with voice
2018-09-02 05:52
I know that. And now that you said that yourself you should realise that he has neither one. His music, or the rappers alike is made on PC within a couple of hours, not a single actual instrument and they're not singing there. Not even vocalizing. Talking to each other in a disgusting way. And this is what you defend right now.
2018-09-02 05:51
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South Africa nimmaJ 
All of that is your opinion, he has both instrument sounds and vocals, therefore It is music.
2018-09-02 05:52
It is music as I said a numerous times before but what kind of music is that? A much worse kind than what we've once had and that is why that's bad it influences youth alike you to change your values and become a similar junkie or a potential one in near future.
2018-09-02 05:54
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Any stats or facts that prove it negatively impacts youth? A much worse kind than what we've once had and that is why that's bad Your opinion, irrelevant.
2018-09-02 05:56
Not my opinion, actually mine with many other intelligent people who are older than 15, you see it? Type 'rap influence on youth' or something similar and stare at those cases. Your problem is you need to win it but not to make me see.
2018-09-02 05:58
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Burden of proof is on you, YOU google it and prove that the negative if worse than the positive since its YOUR claim. I already proved the positive but you have yet to prove the negative. There are no credible websites that actually think rap.musics overall impact is negative.
2018-09-02 06:00
You didn't prove that either and I don't need this. It's impossible to prove its value for it was the trigger for whole music industry to change grabbing the whole mankind with it. Exchanging suits and ties for ripped jeans and face full of tattoos! It's the cause of it and it slowly got here now. You still defend it not knowing anything about music history. I will play now. Later.
2018-09-02 06:03
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South Africa nimmaJ 
You said you agreed with the positive affects that it had and now you're saying I need proof? You're denying that rap is a medium for artists to talk abotlut political views? You're denying that it gives hope and comfort for less fortunate kids both socially and economically? You're denying that it has helped unite people not only through music but also of different races?
2018-09-02 06:15
I agreed with you even though I didn't see no proof about it. I don't need proof. it's true. And each of the things you listed can be applied to any other popular music kind throughout history. The thing is, aftermath of rap culture is much more worse than any other kind before that. Music changes rapidbly so does the world along with it and no music genre ever could damage our culture as badly as rap. Being similar to rappers is now a fashionable trend and the man who treats and respects people is now considered a 'cuck'. Just to name a few. I agree with you but look at the aftermath.
2018-09-02 07:16
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South Africa nimmaJ 
There us no aftermath, you're just making things up because you're wrong. Link me to some aftermath
2018-09-02 07:38
You're partly right because it's not over yet, still on going but you can see its influence for over thirty years of service. Terrible scene.
2018-09-02 08:04
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South Africa nimmaJ 
You have no proof of rap creating negative affects. Come back with that
2018-09-02 08:13
As long as we have access to historical data, my proof is the world's order of today. Unacceptable things in civilised time are now norm of things. Everything got loose. I already told you you still fail to see.
2018-09-02 08:15
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Because you telling me random things that arent true is irrelevant. Provide some proof that rap insights negative behavior or gtfo
2018-09-02 08:21
You're falling apart completely. Save your image at least. Everything I said is true or based on my own experience which is even more solid of the proof. Times have changed and people now do anything they want, values got swept off, traditions forgotten and music doesn't require talent or skill anymore. It's a commercial slaughterhouse. If you will talk this way I will leave you without paying you respect by replying to you.
2018-09-02 08:24
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South Africa nimmaJ 
More delusional irrelevant. Garbage, link proof of your claims about rap or remain wrong.
2018-09-02 08:26
You didn't bother providing me anything and I agreed on things that were accurate. You need to grow up boy and import common sense in your dialogue. You know it by now.
2018-09-02 08:27
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Because what I said was sensible and what you said wasnt
2018-09-02 08:29
This makes no sense now. I don't mind you defending rap and things but it will never be equal to professional music.
2018-09-02 08:30
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Yet another opinion with no proof
2018-09-02 08:31
It gets boring and static now. I will play until you gain interest in the songs, actual songs I'm talking about.
2018-09-02 08:35
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South Africa nimmaJ 
You havent linked anything for me to gain interest in and continue to make up lies and slander about rap. Nice try though
2018-09-02 08:37
If we're talking about music, both of us should know it well enough not to ask for proof for such obvious things as what genre is harder for production. I just made it clear you don't know much enough to have a discussion about it.
2018-09-02 08:38
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Senseless garbage. Prove it or gtfo, if it's so well known it shouldnt be hard for you to find a credible article about it
2018-09-02 08:40
I didn't see this somehow. I mentioned a good article about songs but you didn't want it. I guess there's nothing that could ever make you see. You will just carry on with your amateur point of view like a blind ram. Whatever.
2018-09-02 11:55
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South Africa nimmaJ 
You didnt link anything dumbass
2018-09-02 11:58
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Vibrations en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Day_in_the_Life en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mack_the_Knife It was pop music at the time and it was unaccepted to put out talentless and skillful crap that took days to get done out. This kind of music influenced all the new generations after and gave a point to live for millions of people without talking about drugs, sluts and killings. There's not a single rap song to match it and I doubt ever will be. It's a wasteland.
2018-09-02 12:02
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Random meaningless opinions. None of these links prove anything
2018-09-02 12:04
I wanted to link you but you didn't say anything, how would I know. And don't be mad. I feel sorry for you but I don't insult you.
2018-09-02 12:03
It proves how music industry change in worse over time. Values were replaced, approach was changed and music is now fully commercial for troubled youth alike you who praise rap and never appreciate real talent and skill that it should require. Your respect towards it shows exactly that. And you calling me 'dumbass' has proved it furthermore. Keep loving rap kid.
2018-09-02 12:06
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Yes those songs had impact. Doesn't prove that specific rap songs havent been just as influencinial. Keep being blind kid
2018-09-02 12:14
It proves exactly what I told you and don't you understand that the way you reply to me even proves it furthermore? I stay calm and collected while you can't handle this obviously and try to call me things mocking nobody but you yourself. Industry has changed, becoming from an art directed corporation to commercial business without values, traditions and morale. Enjoy rap. We will keep on laughing.
2018-09-02 12:17
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South Africa nimmaJ 
No it doesnt, have fun with your ignorant opinions. You have no proof for any of your claims about rap
2018-09-02 12:20
The statements I've made don't require proof for I haven't said anything certain. It requires logic and knowledge of the subject which you obviously do not have. While I tried to proved it humanly in an obvious way, you have already proved yourself wrong by acting like a kid and trying to insult me. That's one hell of a failure.
2018-09-02 12:21
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Yes it does require proof. You cant provide it therefore you are wrong. Case closed
2018-09-02 12:24
I already grasped all the aspects of our subjecT I could think of and you stil can't get it. Make an example of industry work back then to the recent and still not enough. Even rappers themselves dying in firefights wouldn't be enough for you. If you can't understand it, I'm afraid it's not my problem. You don't seem to get some obvious things and the fact that not everything can't be physically proven. It requires more than just articles but you wouldn't know loving rap.
2018-09-02 12:39
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Still no proof. You're so ignorant about music, funny.
2018-09-02 12:41
You're actually ridiculous, waiting for some miracle proof even though I explained you every single thing and you on the brink of defeat still whine about proof when I already broke it down to you into pieces. It's beyond me. You ignore the important part and still mad. Proof in our conversation, re-read and pay attention. Until then. It's done.
2018-09-02 12:44
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South Africa nimmaJ 
It was done long ago when you couldn't prove your claims about rap culture and its influences.
2018-09-02 14:43
Gather all my posts together and be proven wrong. Check my last reply to you in this thread. I stated all there.
2018-09-02 14:59
No, the definition of singing is the one I posted, taken directly from a dictionary website. Not whatever definition you just pulled out your ass. But if you want to stick with yours listen to love the way you lie and listen to all those chords and the tune behind his SINGING. If you actually think anyone can just do what he does then you're delusional. I think you need to stop telling someone with a Music GCSE what music or singing or rapping is lmao
2018-09-02 11:51
Rapping and singing are two different things, now that's obvious and let's put it aside. Rappers don't sing, they rap, rhyme, whatever. Their music is primitive and doesn't require neither skill or talent to made. An office job within a year of practice. Pathetic. Rap is not art (aside their rhymes which make good sense sometimes but mostly even their rhymes are pointless), rap is commercially set money milking machine which works properly because you get what you want. That's not the case with art, fella. You should get to understand it, art is not being made just for you. Enjoy your clown fiesta all you want but don't hang around actual music. That's all I want.
2018-09-02 11:54
Come on, you have to be trolling now lmao, if not this is comedy gold
2018-09-02 11:58
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Lol yeah your anecdotal evidence is indicative of rap as a culture. What a fallacy. Rap music has done a ton from society, like any genre theres bullshit and ignorance from some artists but rap has given an outlet for people to speak about social injustice and political views as well as call out corrupt politicians through a medium. It gives hope to less privileged youth and exposed the plight of lower classes. Many rappers talk about stopping violence and drug use, just because someone raps that they see their family member or friend get killed or abuse drugs and OD doesn't mean they're promoting it, it's the exact opposite in fact. Tupac is a good example of this. They're rapping from personal experience to show how negatively these things can affect people. It also provides a support/comfort for those that are lonely/outsiders. Tyler is a good example of this, I cant count how many people say his music inspired them or helped with their emotional problems. Theres countless ways that rap has helped society, if someone listens to little pump and starts doing xans and coke that's their fault for not being able to make coherent decisions. Clearly if they were that easy to manipulate they had much deeper emotional problems that the didnt deal with properly and that their family/friends didnt notice.
2018-09-01 15:53
I don't deny completely that not all rap songs are equally awful but the whole concept of rap or at least the current one is just a big disgrace. It's forced to be called music but it has barely to nothing from it. Official promos become more valuable than the songs themselves, instrumental part has no importance, singing is not required. Just mumble to the flow and don't forget the lyrics. Regardless of how truly those lyrics are spoken, it deals more harm than good and there's nothing really to justify that considering how deeply the word has fallen off from where it once was. And the music is to blame as one of the main factors that push on social adjustments and stepforwards.
2018-09-01 16:42
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South Africa nimmaJ 
I don't deny completely that not all rap songs are equally awful but the whole concept of rap or at least the current one is just a big disgrace. Thats the entire point of this album by em Official promos become more valuable than the songs themselves, instrumental part has no importance, singing is not required. Just mumble to the flow and don't forget the lyrics. Why is singing being involved relevant? And actually i can think of a ton of rap songs with sung chorus'. Again mumble rap is disliked by a large portion of listeners and legendary rappers. And the music is to blame as one of the main factors that push on social adjustments and stepforwards. Any examples?
2018-09-01 16:44
Your note about what is his album is about made no sense at all. Singing is required because we're talking about songs and how song can be a song if it doesn't contain singing. Rap belongs to entertainment for their moves make it look like it. Admit it and we're fine. Hound Dog by Elvis, She Loves You by the Fabs, Revolver by the Fabs, Led Zeppelin by LZ and on and on. There are many revolutionary tracks that advanced music industry and were ahead of their time and now it's coming back home boys. Soon to play sticks and stones how poor the songs are being made today.
2018-09-01 16:49
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South Africa nimmaJ 
It made perfect sense? The album is literally calling out mumble and trap rappers for being simplistic and lacking talent. No were not talking about songs were talking about music, singing is an aspect of music but it doesnt define it. I can name plenty of rap songs that defined the genre and brought light to cultural topics as well. Combined with rap being the fastest growing genre, it clearly has huge influence on the world.
2018-09-01 16:52
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Also you didnt refute any of my points about the social influence of rap/hope it gives youth/it being a medium for political views. So im just going to assume that you cant. "Singing is required because we're talking about songs and how song can be a song if it doesn't contain singing." So what have you to say about classical music then?
2018-09-01 17:08
Some rap songs have helped some troubled youth but in general it has dealt more damage than repaired things. It became a pop genre and the actual music is now considered 'old' or whatever else you'd call it like. Also rap is not the fastest growing genre, that be rock and roll. Classical music is classic music, nobody mentions songs when talking about it. It's a complete compositions with different parts and structures and alike rap doesn't contain singing.
2018-09-01 17:15
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Some rap songs have helped some troubled youth but in general it has dealt more damage than repaired things. Any stats to back that up? It became a pop genre and the actual music is now considered 'old' or whatever else you'd call it like. Also rap is not the fastest growing genre, that be rock and roll. forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2017/07/17.. businessinsider.com/hip-hop-passes-rock-.. reuters.com/article/us-music-2017/hip-ho.. Rap does sometimes contain singing but its irrelevant, you dont have to have singing to be music.
2018-09-01 17:20
You're so desperate to have another victory over argument online, I remember you were exhausting but still trying. Some things require belief, not everything can be proven in fact and if you can't import common sense and logic into it. No man can ever prove it to you. Rap is music, of a very low quality though but I'm not aware of a single rap song. I heard one the chorus of which was blatantly stolen from another song and it's the only way that rap music can have a song.
2018-09-01 17:22
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South Africa nimmaJ 
You're so desperate to have another victory over argument online, I remember you were exhausting but still trying. Some things require belief, not everything can be proven in fact. Lol what a cop-out. I can definitely prove that rap has positive influences on people. Rap is music, of a very low quality though but I'm not aware of a single rap song. Cool, nice opinion. Not relevant at all. I heard one the chorus of which was blatantly stolen from another song and it's the only way that rap music can have a song. Its called a sample and they pay for it, theres plenty of rap songs with sung chorus' from the artists on the songs as well.
2018-09-01 17:24
If you can prove that then you can turn the time back and confirm that today people's mentality is superior to the people of the past which is impossible by any morale standards. Now you don't ask youth about it, you ask elders. Whatever it's called like, it is the only way that rap music can have a real song with singing part sung by the other artist. As always.
2018-09-01 17:27
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South Africa nimmaJ 
If you can prove that then you can turn the time back and confirm that today people's mentality is superior to the people of the past which is impossible by any morale standards. I highly doubt you can prove that "peoples mentality in the past is superior than it is today" with any facts or stats And even if you can if anything that proves that rap music has great impact to uplift and unite people despite people having weaker mental states. Now you don't ask youth about it, you ask elders. Why? Insinuating all older people are smarter than all younger people? The singing shit is irrelevant to music as ive proved with classical music so im ignoring that,
2018-09-01 17:35
It takes much more than just statistics and you can't find any statistics about it. Take a trip to your own country half a century ago and be wondered how sane you once were. A several films be the proof if you should be told to do obvious. Rap has done some good things but it became a definition of popular music of the 21st century and despite all the good it brought for society, it's still worthless in music aspect. Youth have no idea how life was back then and yes, elders are smarter than younger people, that's too. I've told you about classical music, it's just classical music. We're talking about pop music, it requires singing, there is a music sheet, chords and you sing upon them. Rap doesn't have it. Rap is the lowest genre of all.
2018-09-01 18:09
#120
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Nice opinions and speculation none of which can be proven
2018-09-01 18:14
Oh, I thought I'd see an essay there. Seems like we're slowly running out of fuel, ain't we. Most of which we've said and ever will, will be just opinions, any proof you can provide still can't be valid enough because we can't go back to that time. So it's a game of give and take. If you don't believe a word I say initially, you're playing alone here and I wish your eyes will be open one day. It's no wonder for I was like you some years ago. Time will fix this.
2018-09-02 05:05
#134
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Most of which we've said and ever will, will be just opinions, any proof you can provide still can't be valid enough because we can't go back to that time. My facts dont matter because we arent in a differejt time period? What kind of dumb logic is that You're literally just saying nonsense because I proved all of your claims about what rap does to people wrong. Thers literally no evidence that it makes people behave worse, that's almost as bad as the"video games are violent" movement that the gaming community keeps having to combat.
2018-09-02 05:38
I didn't deny your statements about positive side effects of it but it doesn't cross over the fact that it's a much worse kind of music than what we've had in the previous generation. You simply can't deny this unless you don't care about intelligence, mannerism and normal behavior. Many people don't, I will understand if you're one of those. Everything will make sense then!
2018-09-02 05:41
#139
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South Africa nimmaJ 
the fact that it's a much worse kind of music than what we've had in the previous generation. That's an opinion not a fact. Stop misconstruing your twisted logic as fact
2018-09-02 05:49
It is a fact. People enjoy it as much but it's not a deciding factor in professional industry such as music. It has much lesser skillful approach, much lesser talents involved and it's got simplified to the point that it's made by one person on PC. You should be joking!
2018-09-02 05:53
#144
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South Africa nimmaJ 
It has much lesser skillful approach, much lesser talents involved and it's got simplified to the point that it's made by one person on PC. You can't prove that rap songs take less skill than rock songs. And most good rap is not made by one person, very few are.
2018-09-02 05:55
I actually can prove that with ease, the difference is shall I. You're now saying that rap takes as much skill as rock music which takes years to master out and decades to become good at it. Involve any sane person now in our discussion and be wondered how wrong you are. I'm going to play right now, wait for me I'm surprised I'm still here.
2018-09-02 05:57
#147
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South Africa nimmaJ 
LMAO "shall I" if you cant prove it, you cant prove your argument. So if you dont I couldn't care less just means I proved you wrong.
2018-09-02 05:58
I mean, it is obvious. See things listed here: Rock music requires a number of people, usually 4 at minimum. A song to work with. Song that has chords and progression, line for each instrument. It takes people who can play instruments together and one singer who can sing and have a good ear. It might take a different arrangement and recording the song live, with all four. And unlike rap where all you have to do is to remember the rhymes, you should be training and be extremely good at each point otherwise it will be a flop whereas rap forgives bad quality all the time.
2018-09-02 06:02
#152
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South Africa nimmaJ 
So just because it takes more people it's harder.does that mean csgo is inherently harder than starcraft because theres 5 people on the team instead of just one? Terrible logic yet again.
2018-09-02 06:10
No, it's not just because of that. I't one of the reasons but not the only one. You as always fail to see the main thing in the posts I send to you and focus on the least important. What a mess!
2018-09-02 07:12
#159
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Nah your logic is just terrible. The involvement of instruments isnt anymore difficult than making beats. Writing lyrics in rap is harder, flowing is more difficult than melodies in singing. And most singers in rock bands dont even have good pitch or note control. You just know nothing about rap so you make up lies.
2018-09-02 07:40
It's plain disaster. You're absolutely clueless on the matter. Saying writing lyrics without chords is harder is just a clown fiesta. Making beats is harder than writing actual music. You're a damn clown. Could have said that in the beginning. It's just beyond me. You never talked to actual musicians or listened a good music. What a sad life.
2018-09-02 08:08
#168
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South Africa nimmaJ 
@#165 You cant prove that either one is more difficult, you know nothing about rap. "Writing rhymes is easy" you're disgustingly ignorant.
2018-09-02 08:15
I'm telling you that for I know that for a fact. I'm writing lyrics (lyrics, not just rhymes) for years now and just rhyming around is the easiest thing possible, especially without chords to lay them upon. I can prove that, get on Wiki and compare song's personnel, time of creation and recording to the songs of today. It's a brief matchup that kills any chance.
2018-09-02 08:18
#172
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Wrong in so many ways.
2018-09-02 08:20
Well, it got shortened to the point that I don't have to reply to you anymore. You may not believe me but historians of music don't lie. Data is saved, rap has no chance. I'm gonna play soon again.
2018-09-02 08:22
#175
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Then link some "historians of music" that say these things.
2018-09-02 08:23
I can give you a couple of links with the songs descriptions the way they were made and how long it took, I don't have a proper cut to provide you, there's too many to choose from. Just type that in search and be amazed.
2018-09-02 08:26
#180
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South Africa nimmaJ 
I'm not typing anything in, give me links to proof of rap being easier than rock to create or rap having negative affects on youth in a study or stay wrong.
2018-09-02 08:27
I will stand corrected regardless of what I will do now. I have explained it to you already while you still try to hang on there. You're the one who has got on me initially and I don't really care whether you agree with it or not. You're young yet to have a proper opinion or the words that would have had weight. Do you need some links or not?
2018-09-02 08:29
#184
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South Africa nimmaJ 
still no proof of your claims *yawn*
2018-09-02 08:30
Now you make an impression of a child really. It's up to you to believe me or not. I've said all I had to. If not I, time will grant you wisdom one day.
2018-09-02 08:34
#189
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Call me a child all you want, most of what you said has been untrue, have fun being wrong
2018-09-02 08:36
I'll surely take your opinion into consideration. I bet it's very valuable.
2018-09-02 08:37
#192
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South Africa nimmaJ 
At least it's based in facts unlike yours.
2018-09-02 08:38
You wish, facts in the present time is a 5 minute edit in the web. I've got history and opinions of those who are praised world-wide throughout time.
2018-09-02 08:39
See this is why this album is fun. It takes the piss out of lil's
2018-09-01 13:02
Last time I listened to rap with interest I was 14.
2018-09-01 14:01
Last time i saw someone this closeminded i was 12
2018-09-01 14:23
I don't think you've gone far from that point!
2018-09-01 14:25
Can't go far with close minded cynical people. Fairyland yaay
2018-09-01 14:27
If your friends are too fucking thick to let some rapper influence their lives like that then it's not the music. It's their autism.
2018-09-01 14:27
It goes in package. Rap music is being the trigger for that kind of people and it actually can transform a sane person into what I'm talking about.
2018-09-01 15:15
Here's a definition of rap for you. "Rap is a type of music in which the words are not sung but are spoken in a rapid, rhythmic way." This doesn't mean that rappers only talk about only drugs and money and shit. There is no set subject for rap. It is just a style of music. If you will listen to an Eminem song, eg. Mockingbird, it's about how he loves his daughters and has tried to do his best for them. Bad Husband is about how he wishes him and his ex-wife's marriage could've gone better. The rappers who you are referencing do not define rap.
2018-09-01 15:45
I don't mind that. Just don't call that music. It barely has anything from it, what a disgrace.
2018-09-01 16:45
lmfaoooo so you're saying anyone who listens to rap is crazy and will act like this? And that everyone who's ever done something retarded like running away from home, has been listening to rap before doing so? LMAO THIS IS RETARDED TEAM LIQUID ASKING WHY YOU BULLY ME
2018-09-01 15:23
I've only shared examples from my own experience. And it's actually not hard to get that rap doesn't have any positive influence considering how does it look and what does it require and what's it all about. The lowest of all genres.
2018-09-01 15:24
well it helps me to lighten up, to think things through, to get lit, to shut of laud and annoying bitches on the train/bus/work Your theory is really flawed as you generalise a certain type of music. Last I checked there's beem shit loads of suicides inside the rock/metal music during the last generations. And lets not start talking about the massive alcohol and drug usage inside aswell. Why don't you just blame all problems the society has on music xD
2018-09-01 15:29
Things which happen today would be unbelievable back then. I'm not talking about metal or rock as it is considered nowadays. People have had freedom but to the point that they'd not lose their minds. I can't make up your mind and I don't have to, I hope you realise what you're doing and don't let the bad affection take over you. It's not only about music. Today's world is as loose as it can get, not even freedom, anarchy is reigning. Of course rap would be standout as the main negative beholder. At least rock songs were sung about love and feelings, now it's mostly drugs, sluts, no chords, no real instruments and ghetto-poor language slang. Downgrade. But it's up to you what to listen to.
2018-09-01 15:36
#75
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Yep there are no rap songs about love and feelings and no rock songs about drugs and sex, you're a genius. /s
2018-09-01 15:56
You don't grasp the thing I'm talking about. The worst of the things back then is normal for today and the worst of the things today is prison bound route back then. Things have changed severely and even the fact that you defend this pseudo culture is going to show that you're out of reality.
2018-09-01 16:44
#83
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South Africa nimmaJ 
I have no idea what youre referring to? Rappers? Crimes? Give some examples so that you arent typing incoherent trash.
2018-09-01 16:46
Try to come back to #69 and do it again.
2018-09-01 16:50
#88
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Like i said, even if i understood what you said, you need to give examples of "The worst of the things back then is normal for today and the worst of the things today is prison bound route back then." Like what "things" "Things have changed severely" youre just using broad terminology and not specifying any of your points.
2018-09-01 16:54
I can't help you with that. It takes too much for me to handle it within a couple of minutes which I give away for you. I will reply briefly until I have more time and care for this conversation. Let me think of example, take a look at 6ix9ine, I'm sure you know who is it. Now take a look at Elvis at Milton Berle Show shot live. 'The worst of today against the worst of back then' and I bet my cat my example's not even the worst of today.
2018-09-01 17:12
#92
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Yeah i bet it does take a long time for you make a coherent point about something you're completely wrong about Wait are you actually comparing 6ix9ine to Elvis? Thats the most disgusting strawman ive ever read. And you're saying that, that Elvis song was the worst of back then? Not even fucking close.
2018-09-01 17:14
You can't comprehend the conversation you slided into and talking about being wrong? Now get back to #80 and try to understand.
2018-09-01 17:17
#102
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South Africa nimmaJ 
I cant understand it because you've provided 0 relevant examples and your English isn't great. Also nice job ignoring the fact that I called out your strawman and the ridiculous notion that that Elvis song was the worst song of its era.
2018-09-01 17:21
I ignored that because it's not what I meant. You didn't understand it and why should I reply to your incorrect comprehension of my post. I have no time of fooling around with you. I've said all it requires for one to understand if you have issues, you know what's to blame. Maybe I will reply later, maybe not.
2018-09-01 17:23
#108
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Nah that was exactly what you meant, You were comparing "the worst" back then to the worst now and its an absolutely irrelevant and a terrible comparison. Literally comparing a legend of music to someone who in 2 years will be a blip in music, Ive literally countered every single one of your arguments about what constitutes music, the impacts of rap, the topics of rap, the current fastest growing genre, and the false generalizations you make about rap artists and their listeners. Theres literally nothing more to say, you got destroyed on every point. Also you said nothing to combat the "social influence of rap/hope it gives youth/it being a medium for political views. " That i named earlier. Go read #74 again and enlighten yourself instead of being an egotistical music superiorist. Im not going to respond to your strawman claims and ignorance anymore since you continue to deny facts and then say "not everything can be proven in fact." as a disgusting cop out as if to say "I have no facts and you but facts dont matter." Goodbye.
2018-09-01 17:42
Don't prance before it's over fella. I didn't say anything about "social influence of rap/hope it gives youth/it being a medium for political views" because it's true but I noted further on that it doesn't justify all the bad rap has brought upon music industry and therefore mankind in general. Doesn't at all. And obviously not what I meant, you think I was talking about the worst songs of now to the worst songs of then even though I was talking about how much is allowed today and how much was allowed back then. Remember 6ix9ine I mentioned, why would you think about songs at that moment I have no idea. And rap is not the fastest growing genre, it's been growing since late 70s and just because it doesn't have any competent opposition in this dead music market, it doesn't make it any favors. Rock and roll rose up much faster in a much tigher competition. No, you haven't countered all of my arguments and those you did I agreed upon so it's already not literally true. Once again you're running ahead of the train that might squeeze you soon. I'm talking with a common sense while you're hooked on a feeling to win this argument that you rely only on facts but you go mad once you run out of them and not everything can be proven in fact. Once again. Don't reply, I couldn't care less.
2018-09-01 18:06
#119
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South Africa nimmaJ 
I didn't say anything about "social influence of rap/hope it gives youth/it being a medium for political views" because it's true but I noted further on that it doesn't justify all the bad rap has brought upon music industry and therefore mankind in general Still no proof And rap is not the fastest growing genre, it's been growing since late 70s and just because it doesn't have any competent opposition in this dead music market I already proved it is. I'm talking with a common sense while you're hooked on a feeling to win this argument that you rely only on facts but you go mad once you run out of them and not everything can be proven in fact. Once again. Common sense says not to deny facts.
2018-09-01 18:10
#72
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Paraguay HighAlching 
retard comparing eminem to lil peep
2018-09-01 15:38
The same concept.
2018-09-01 16:43
#12
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Russia bo0dle 
i think this is one of his best albums since TES (mainly because skits are back and less pop trash) but thats just my opinion
2018-09-01 07:11
I agree
2018-09-01 13:03
skits are gay, especially some of the ones on relapse. urgggh
2018-09-01 15:24
+1 non needed at all
2018-09-02 07:48
#14
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Portugal aSilva 
1) Some of his songs are based in the musical style he diss 2) Dissing OF and tyler on 2018....Really bruh? 3) Man that guy has a bigger ego than kanye Overall nice try em , keep it to kamikaze 2 lul
2018-09-01 07:15
He was shut down from expressing himself by weak rappers and critics who think they know it all (have big egos without backing it up) Em got mad and decided to show everybody why he is the best around. Tyler is trash, can't even write his own shit.
2018-09-01 13:05
tyler is so fucking overrated his music is dog shit compared to eminem's
2018-09-01 18:16
+1
2018-09-02 07:48
"shut down from expressing himself" how? he put out a trash album the whole universe thought was crap including his own fanbase which is one of the most deluded in hip hop
2018-09-01 20:21
You think it's shit. I think it's a pretty deep and a personal album for him. Everybody gets an opportunity to express themselves. I don't judge his music. Because it's HIS music. Music for himself. Not for you. Nobody cares about you.
2018-09-02 16:36
you can have a pretty deep and personal album that's not dogshit like revival, and your arguments are so bad lmao, "nobody cares about you" but eminem was hurt by the bad critics because even he knows he put out the worst material of his entire career. "i dont judge his music" what are you a bot?
2018-09-02 18:53
I dont judge someone who has accomplished more than 98% of people on earth. You're a moron. Nobody does care about you. Eminem didn't get hurt. He got angry and pissed. "Like who the fuck are these losers telling me that my shit sucks" Eminem wouldn't put out an album he thinks is shit. Period. You're still a moron btw
2018-09-02 22:25
keep sucking eminem's dick for free
2018-09-02 22:28
Not sucking anyones dick, just giving respect where it's due. PS. You're also a fucking fag. Gayboy albanian.
2018-09-02 23:02
#20
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Australia Jimster 
lol, I thought xms retired
2018-09-01 07:34
retired to start his music career
2018-09-01 14:30
#21
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Portugal dascouves 
as an eminem fan, probably biased as fuck, i tought it was pretty good, listening on repeat for a while now...
2018-09-01 07:35
Agree
2018-09-01 13:05
Thats hot
2018-09-01 07:40
Agreed
2018-09-01 13:06
#23
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Kazakhstan dc7 
probably not as raw and juicy as his original stuff when you become commercialised to make profit you start to lack real content
2018-09-01 08:23
This is why this album is special. It's raw and it's real. Most importantly the emotion is there. That spark, that anger.
2018-09-01 13:06
Good. 100x better than revival. I really like it so far, 2 songs that I don't like but other than that it's pretty good
2018-09-01 13:09
Same
2018-09-01 13:13
I usally dont like ems new songs, but i love his flow and anger in these diss tracks. its good, im an Marshall fan now
2018-09-01 13:12
Feels good man
2018-09-01 13:14
great album, Eminem is a legend.
2018-09-01 13:13
#38
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Denmark Baitvice 
Solid album, better than than revival, mm2 and recovery.
2018-09-01 13:17
who?
2018-09-01 14:02
The person who inspired your dad to do condomless sex
2018-09-01 14:24
#68
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United Kingdom Megabelly 
username checks out
2018-09-01 15:32
who is ems
2018-09-01 14:29
What Eminem
2018-09-01 14:31
"Eminems new album" yeah now i get it lol Greatest and The Ringer are my fav songs out there.
2018-09-01 14:35
#93
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United Kingdom tr4c 
ems one katowice 2014
2018-09-01 17:14
haHAA i'm 12 btw
2018-09-01 17:15
Aids, but American music in general is aids. 70s,80s,90s were golden years because most popular music came from the UK/Swe, now, when most of it comes from the USA, it's either crap rap/hiphop or overproduced pop.
2018-09-01 14:32
80s was cancer. I'd take 2000s over 80s any day. Otherwise I agree besides that US always had music coming and always had toppers and good bands and good musicians.
2018-09-01 14:34
#67
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Netherlands vldpkha 
Theres alot of dope US Rap/Hip-Hop though,Just harder to find
2018-09-01 15:31
0/10 all of his music, wannabe black nerd
2018-09-01 15:17
Eminem is better than any black rapper out there besides 2pac and biggie they are all equaly good
2018-09-01 18:18
if you think 2pac, biggie and eminem are the best rappers, you're the most basic dumb normie lowlife ever
2018-09-01 20:11
Who is then? Lil xan maybe?
2018-09-01 23:03
#170
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Another dumb baiter
2018-09-02 08:16
#162
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Denmark xxxGODtacion 
ok now this is epic
2018-09-02 07:58
#109
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Netherlands ImKuru 
4/10
2018-09-01 17:28
#114
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Nepal Avhy 
Ems?
2018-09-01 17:54
Eminem
2018-09-01 20:14
#117
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United States fanofheroin 
garbage
2018-09-01 18:07
dude, it's 2018
2018-09-01 20:18
3/10 album
2018-09-02 05:20
These comments are funny this was a great album I bet half his lines and meanings in his songs the teenage crowd does not even understand. Go back and listen to ur garbage lil xan and garbo mumble rap.
2018-09-02 07:28
#163
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Denmark xxxGODtacion 
please quote some lines that might go over peoples' heads lmao
2018-09-02 08:03
#166
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South Africa nimmaJ 
I said, "Only when it comes to ink and lyricists." But my beef is more media journalists genius.com/Eminem-the-ringer-lyrics#note.. genius.com/Eminem-fall-lyrics#note-15292.. genius.com/Eminem-fall-lyrics#note-15288.. Now yeah you can say you understood them even though I highly doubt you realized the quadruple entandre but they are extremely witty and cerebral lines, these are just a few examples
2018-09-02 08:12
#197
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Denmark xxxGODtacion 
His lyricism is extremely fucking basic lmao wtf are you praising this for?? I actually took a full 45 minutes + some extra time afterwards reading lyrics out of my day listening to this album and it's bland asf like wtf is going on if you think that's good or "complex" lyricism then your mind might just fucking explode if you listen to common, mos def or even frank ocean lmao
2018-09-02 11:17
#199
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Paraguay HighAlching 
frank ocean rofl.
2018-09-02 11:30
#201
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Denmark xxxGODtacion 
emphasis on "even"
2018-09-02 11:33
#198
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Denmark xxxGODtacion 
I think I would almost be able to bear the blandness and cringeness of his lyrics if it wasn't due to the fact that voice sounds soooo old, overdone and redundant. I used to like Em as a kid due to his funny songs and his impressive flows, but this shit just feels so horribly unfinished. It's an improvement to his last album, I'll give him that, although it really wouldn't take much to make anything better than that lmao
2018-09-02 11:19
#207
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Yeah bro just ignore the entandres, world play, harsh disses, and witty punchlines combined with the sheer truth it holds and call it basic with no backing to your statements, just ignorant opinions. You probably dont even understand the first bar I typed out
2018-09-02 12:06
#220
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Denmark xxxGODtacion 
tHe EnTaNdReS yOu WoUlDn'T uNdErStAnD idk what's worse: eminem's shitty ass album or his retarded and deluded fanbase lmao
2018-09-02 12:52
#221
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Yep, ignoring facts. Standard hater, expected.
2018-09-02 12:55
#222
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Denmark xxxGODtacion 
as a matter of fact curtain call and TMM LP are among my favorite albums of all time, as they actually hold great sounds and amazing lyricism. this absolute horseshit of an album is just a way of proving that eminems deluded fans will eat whatever shit he serves lmao the only good song on this entire 45 min piece of garbage is the track with joyner lucas, and that is solely due to joyner carrying eminem's rusty ass
2018-09-02 12:57
#223
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Nah the first 2 songs are actually great and better than Lucky you but I did enjoy Joyners verse. That's fine you're entitled to your own opinion but its clear your just another oldhead eminem fan that doesnt want him to advance his flow or rap on newer beats even though that's what you have to do to stay in the game. Hes literally taking the generic garbage of today and showing he can do it much much better.
2018-09-02 13:07
#224
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Denmark xxxGODtacion 
I'm far from an oldhead - I hate the movement and to me it's just a deluded state of mind without any substance. Let's just agree to disagree on the matter, cause my opinion stands; I think this album is his absolute worst work yet following his last album.
2018-09-02 13:12
#225
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South Africa nimmaJ 
That's fine, your opinion is clearly based on it being new and not objectivity of flow, lyricism, wordplay, and rhyme schemes. This album worse than revival or recovery? Delusional, pretty much everyone acknowledges that those two are by far the lowest points in his career.
2018-09-02 13:17
Is that even a song jist cussing everyone. He shud move on that man i know his life was tough but get a life dude. First marshall Mathers song and now this trash. Pretty much he just wants sympathy. No offense i know he is talented but too emotional
2018-09-02 08:33
Every artist is emotional. He doesn't care about your sympathy. He wants respect. He showed that the people who judged him are years below his level.
2018-09-02 16:38
I know but thats too much No doubt he is gr8 why even give other guys fucks
2018-09-02 16:38
It's an ego thing. He's using his ego as an inspirational motivational drive to make music.
2018-09-02 18:32
#200
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World taco__ 
I am not Eminem fan and after 3 tracks I was really excited. But the rest turned out to be nothing special. I'd rate it 5.5/10 thanks to the first 3 tracks especially lucky you.
2018-09-02 11:33
Tbh, I prefer songs with good flow and but. So, I just have listened to the whole album and the lyrics and flow are awesome, but sometimes somebody else is ruining the song or the bit is awful
2018-09-02 13:59
its not good
2018-09-02 23:57
03:30Bushido Boyz vs Rebirth
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2.18
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1.65
01:009z vs Agressive
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Agressive
2.35
20:00RED Canids vs Isurus
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Isurus
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