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Why a HR/Gambit/Mouz merge would work
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United Kingdom cowbunga 
Before I begin, I'd like to thank SixAB for giving me this idea in the Mouz fix thread. So, as we all know, Hellraisers has great potential but rely too much on big plays, Mousesports' addition of Snax was one of the worst moves of the year and Gambit have been awful since Zeus left. For Mousesports to progress further, they need to remove Snax (who is in absolutely awful form) and oskar (who, although being a great AWPer, destroys the team chemistry and often chokes). A perfect fit for this gap would be the HR duo of ISSAA and w0xic, both of which are incredibly skilled upcoming talents (which Mousesports has a history of taking on board) and would complement the playstyles of the team's superstar riflers Sunny and ropz very well. Obviously Hellraisers would be without 2 players after this move and, being a fairly small org, likely without much money. If Gambit does disband this would mean that there would be several free agents on the market, most of have experience under ANGE1's leadership. The best of the Gambit players are the Kazakhstani core of mou, Hobbit and AdreN. To keep their major spot, HR wouldn't be able to kick deadfox (a complete deadweight for the team who clearly needs to go) until mid-2019 and therefore wouldn't be able to sign the whole trio. The first two to pick up would have to be mou and AdreN, as not only are they fantastic direct replacements for the roles of w0xic and ISSAA they also have experience communicating and playing with the team's IGL. Hobbit's addition would have to happen later (unless they keep deadfox exclusively for the next major and use Hobbit otherwise, or go through the CIS Minor again) but would bring further consistency to this lineup, as all 5 players would have good fragging capabilities. In my opinion this series of moves would fix all of these teams' problems and create 2 new top 10 teams capable of making deep runs. Any thoughts?
2018-09-10 21:11
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United Kingdom cowbunga 
This is also a perfect-world scenario and therefore unlikely to happen but it's theoretically sound.
2018-09-10 21:14
#2
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United Kingdom cowbunga 
cmon bois i spent ages typing this, reply
2018-09-10 21:21
#3
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Myanmar xdcc 
mousesports better keep oskar as stand-in then when they dont get visas
2018-09-10 21:16
+1
2018-09-10 21:21
#5
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United Kingdom cowbunga 
I didn't think of that haha
2018-09-10 21:21
#6
Hungary powi 
don't think woxic is better than oskar, he might have better potential, but atm not better i think. woxic also chocked a bit in this major qualifier issaa would be cool instead of snax tho :)
2018-09-11 19:46
#7
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United Kingdom cowbunga 
Thanks for your feedback man :) In my opinion, w0xic is the better player despite having a bad Major so far but if he had the whole team surrounding him he'd be better than oskar. It is definitely possible that he wouldn't fit in though.
2018-09-11 19:48
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Lekr0 | 
United Kingdom dxy^ 
Team checks out
2018-09-11 19:50
#9
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United Kingdom cowbunga 
What about it checks out? lmao
2018-09-11 19:50
#10
Lekr0 | 
United Kingdom dxy^ 
North. /closed
2018-09-11 19:51
#11
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United Kingdom cowbunga 
How does that relate to this topic at all?
2018-09-11 19:51
#12
Lekr0 | 
United Kingdom dxy^ 
Whatever you say is irrelevant. You support North.
2018-09-11 19:52
#13
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United Kingdom cowbunga 
Ah, so you're baiting.
2018-09-11 19:53
#15
Lekr0 | 
United Kingdom dxy^ 
Why would I bait. You support North, You are irrelevant
2018-09-11 19:54
#23
TACO | 
Brazil user2740 
why so mad
2018-09-11 20:00
#26
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United Kingdom cowbunga 
+1
2018-09-11 20:02
HR are perfect no need to destroy them just to make gambot a little better
2018-09-11 19:54
#16
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United Kingdom cowbunga 
Have you even read the thread? In no way does this improve Gambit, in fact it involves Gambit's disbanding.
2018-09-11 19:56
Bad bait 0/8
2018-09-11 19:56
#20
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United Kingdom cowbunga 
oh sorry i forgot
2018-09-11 19:59
#18
Lekr0 | 
United Kingdom dxy^ 
It just shows that you are clueless. North supporter, what do you expect.
2018-09-11 19:56
Yes he is very dumb
2018-09-11 19:59
Sooo Mouz -ropz -suNny -chrisJ -ISSA -w0xic HellRaisers -ANGE1 -bondik -AdreN -mou -Hobbit Gambit???
2018-09-11 19:59
#22
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United Kingdom cowbunga 
Current Gambit disband, pick up a new CIS lineup: -Dosia (IGL) -mir -jR -crush -COLDYY
2018-09-11 20:00
but Vega > Gambit Vega could get fback mir tho lol
2018-09-11 20:04
#29
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United Kingdom cowbunga 
True, but Gambit has better backing so could buy players out
2018-09-11 20:17
Nice thread
2018-09-11 20:00
#25
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United Kingdom cowbunga 
Thank you man, have a nice evening :)
2018-09-11 20:01
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Xyp9x | 
Portugal CRMN1 
Good thread, deserves more views. I don't agree with Oskar being removed from Mousesports because he has been their rock every time Mousesports has a long run in tournaments. However ISSAA for Snax would be a great swap for Mousesports and just the fact that ISSAA and w0xic make a strong duo and add a lot of comfort to each other, he'd strive much more if he had woxic by his side so it gets hard from here. The good part of a merge between these 3 teams is that all 3 of them have great awpers and what happens out of this is that no matter what awper you swap, all 3 teams will be well served, but the worst part of a merge between these 3 teams is that because there are 3 good awpers, if a team is going to make changes, at least 1 of these 3 teams will be left in a shittier spot and that would mean 1 wasted quality awper. I'd be willing to see ISSAA and woxic replace Oskar and Snax but I would be gutted for Oskar if he couldn't find his way back in the game for being removed for the same reason that I stated above. Mind you, you'd be removing the 2 best in HR leaving it with only ANGE1, deadfox and bondik. Oskar could fit here, but we'd need Gambit players to make improvements. Because Oskar already is a dedicated awper, bringing in quality Gambit players to this HR team to compete alongside Oskar instead of the likes of deadfox for instance, would leave Mou in a shit spot because HR would already have an awper, know where I'm going?
2018-09-11 20:12
#30
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United Kingdom cowbunga 
Yes, I get exactly where you're going; although it would be a shame to see oskar go as he is a fantastic player I think the benefits outweigh the drawbacks with w0xic joining. I could definitely see him joining a T1 NA or EU mix team. Thanks for your kind words and detailed response, have a great evening!
2018-09-11 20:19
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Xyp9x | 
Portugal CRMN1 
I tried my best to explain my points but it really wasn't easy. Glad that you got it =]. Oskar is quality, I would be pleased to see him play at high level for long.
2018-09-11 20:24
#32
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United Kingdom cowbunga 
You explained them perfectly, friend.
2018-09-11 20:24
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