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BUCHOLZZ HAHAHA
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United States Jardeet 
"bucholzz will stop the good teams playing the good teams and bad teams playing bad teams" Astralis vs Mibr Fnatic vs Navi SHIT TEAMS LIKE BIG PLAY HELLRAISERS HAHAHHAA G2 AND C9 HAHAHAHHAA VEGA AND NIP HAHAHAHAH fucking bucholzz just do it random stupid faceit
2018-09-14 23:07
Old group system was much better for avoiding this shit
2018-09-14 23:08
#2
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United States Jardeet 
yep this bucholzz shit is doing the thing its supposed to avoid
2018-09-14 23:09
#51
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Korea ENCE|jW 
Ur braindead, groups could be so random for example A : c9, winstrike, vega, tyloo B: ast, liquid, faze, navi
2018-09-14 23:20
Nah, always 2 legends and 2 from the qualifiers per group. Just rig it a bit and make sure Astralis gets in winstrike’s group for example.
2018-09-14 23:21
#64
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Korea ENCE|jW 
A group 2 legends c9,wstrike A group 2 quals vega,tyloo B group 2 legends faze,navi B group 2 quals ast liquid ????? "Rig it a bit" lmao They could do the same w swiss, just rig it a bit Nt
2018-09-14 23:32
These clown teams would have never been legends with the old system. Ever since switching to it they made it out. Reported btw for racism and insults. Jonathan is my best friend.
2018-09-14 23:27
#76
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Korea ENCE|jW 
Edited in time 😀 Cya
2018-09-14 23:32
Definitely, now shit teams like cumplexity can go to playoff after winning lucky 3 bo1s and teams like Faze have to play for their lives after playing 3 bo1s against 3 top 10 teams.
2018-09-14 23:20
#67
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Korea ENCE|jW 
Col did upset 3/3 times and they earned it 100% deserved Faze could have played col at 2-0 if they didnt pick dd2 against big so ur pointless
2018-09-14 23:27
cumplexity will get destroyed in 1st bo3 game they will play in play-offs, the only reason they are through is that all the games they had to play was bo1.
2018-09-14 23:29
#74
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Korea ENCE|jW 
*were bo1 Faze played all bo1 games as well
2018-09-14 23:31
Exactly, if they would play bo3 against big they would win, you are proving my point. Any team can have awful or super lucky map, but doing it 2 times in the same game is a different story.
2018-09-14 23:33
#80
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Korea ENCE|jW 
In gsl, 2 lucky maps would be enough, it is even easier Prove me wrong
2018-09-14 23:35
but you won't get eliminated after 3 unlucky bo1s. Also imo in gsl the game that decides which team advances should also be bo3 not bo1.
2018-09-14 23:37
#85
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Korea ENCE|jW 
In theory, you could get eliminates after 3 unlucky maps, which is quite a same thing
2018-09-14 23:39
In theory, yes, but there is a huge difference when you have 2-3 maps to learn about your opponent and adjust your game plan and 1 map where you can get cought off guard by some crap team that you know nothing about because you never played them since they only play in some low tier events or almost not play at all.
2018-09-14 23:44
The International system is great
2018-09-14 23:10
#4
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United States Jardeet 
who?
2018-09-14 23:10
look liquidpedia the international 2018's system
2018-09-14 23:11
#24
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Brazil 1WollFz 
+10000
2018-09-14 23:14
Rigged
2018-09-14 23:10
#8
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United States Jardeet 
whoever the guy who made bucholzz is retard MR. Bucholz ur a retard
2018-09-14 23:11
#28
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Germany Roflcopter234 
you are
2018-09-14 23:14
But Bucholz is correct tho? MiBR vs Astralis is the match of bad vs good team and Na'VI vs Fnatic is basically Na'Vi vs KRIMZ
2018-09-14 23:11
#26
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Germany Roflcopter234 
+1
2018-09-14 23:14
+1
2018-09-14 23:17
#59
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Korea ENCE|jW 
Honestly, its mibr's fault that they lost to tyloo, and fnc is lucky to be 2-1
2018-09-14 23:21
#9
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Algeria RunGo 
NIP >>>>>>>Fnatic atm
2018-09-14 23:11
why you gotta be so toxic. fnatic is the worst team 2-1 too. astralis-mibr only good teams facing each other but should be ez for astralis
2018-09-14 23:12
#69
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Other HasomY 
he is using stats from the stone age
2018-09-14 23:28
If shit teams like mibr wouldnt lose to tyloo no one would cry, its their fault.
2018-09-14 23:12
#23
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Germany Roflcopter234 
+1
2018-09-14 23:13
#12
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United States Jardeet 
it should be BIG vs Astralis because BIG are shit and they are only in the major cycle because they abused a bug 2 majors ago
2018-09-14 23:12
#21
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Germany Roflcopter234 
retarded?? still stuck in 2016?
2018-09-14 23:13
#27
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United States Jardeet 
mad german sticking up for his cheater team BIG hahahah ABUSE SILENT JUMP BUG
2018-09-14 23:14
#34
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Germany Roflcopter234 
esl cologne btw, big vs faze btw
2018-09-14 23:15
#41
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United States Jardeet 
youtube.com/watch?v=1OOyAG9ew2s HAHAHA ABUSE BUG ALL MAJOR
2018-09-14 23:16
#42
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United States Jardeet 
2018-09-14 23:17
#49
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Germany Roflcopter234 
still stuck in 2017? esl cologne btw 100% winrate online against faze and mibr you mad?
2018-09-14 23:19
#50
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United States Jardeet 
2018-09-14 23:19
#52
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Germany Roflcopter234 
ok let me guess. are you 11yo? maybe 12?
2018-09-14 23:20
#56
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United States Jardeet 
2018-09-14 23:20
#57
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Germany Roflcopter234 
ok 10?
2018-09-14 23:21
#66
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Germany Roflcopter234 
i guess i was right, can you confirm?
2018-09-14 23:26
xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa
2018-09-14 23:15
20 IQ spotted
2018-09-14 23:15
#13
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United States MarkerTassel 
Fnatic is shit rn and mibr has had easy path so is now playing good team. Wtf u snokin
2018-09-14 23:12
#17
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Germany Roflcopter234 
+1
2018-09-14 23:13
Hahaha. Hey Manueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel
2018-09-14 23:56
#93
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Germany Roflcopter234 
? Reply needs to have actual content
2018-09-15 01:00
just have someone rig it from behind the scenes to give the fairest matchups. ezpz
2018-09-14 23:12
Buchhol7777
2018-09-14 23:12
#16
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Germany Roflcopter234 
this system is good, are you retarded?! fnatic sucks hard and mibr vs astralis is ok big is rated above mibr which is fits perfect
2018-09-14 23:13
system is fine but this seeding has been awful and thats not arguable
2018-09-14 23:13
#30
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Germany Roflcopter234 
what is awful today? tell me
2018-09-14 23:15
astralis vs mibr? FNC vs NaVi?
2018-09-14 23:16
#46
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Germany Roflcopter234 
whats awful there? if you think fnatic is good you are stuck in 2016. and mibr lost against tyloo... rating: astralis navi big or mibr big or mibr hellraiser fnatic -> perfect
2018-09-14 23:18
its not good seeding faze vs mouz ast vs liquid big vs col c9 vs winstrike you're the only person defending this system so you must be dumb or faceit employee on a burner acc
2018-09-14 23:21
#62
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Germany Roflcopter234 
just search through this thread. i am not the only one. btw nobody said it is perfect. vut it is better than picking all random
2018-09-14 23:23
it is picking all random? its not based on ranking or anything. theyre drawing names out of a box
2018-09-14 23:23
#65
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Germany Roflcopter234 
You don't understand. It only works if the good teams play good and the bad teams play bad. What matters is how good or bad you play at the tournament. Teams that play insane will not play against each other. You can't reward a team for being good in other tournaments. Their results in this major are the only factor that changes who they play did you watch the stream?? they didnt draw today and yesterday they put 2-0 teams in 2 pots not 1 come on, dont argue if you have 0 knowledge
2018-09-14 23:25
the swiss system is fine thats not what i said the problem was. liquid should not be playing astralis. that is bad seeding. they shouldve played the worse 2-0 teams. i never suggested that a 2-0 team or a 1-1 team wouldnt play a team with the same standing.
2018-09-14 23:28
#86
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Germany Roflcopter234 
again, maybe you get it after you read it the second time: You don't understand. It only works if the good teams play good and the bad teams play bad. What matters is how good or bad you play at the tournament. Teams that play insane will not play against each other. You can't reward a team for being good in other tournaments. Their results in this major are the only factor that changes who they play and this is the only good way to "seed". otherwise everybody would cry "but this team is better than that team" thats why other seeding sucks
2018-09-14 23:42
this is not the only way to seed literally look at what any cs analyst has said about it. they also said the system is good but the poor seeding is ruining it.
2018-09-14 23:44
Why? Wanna give explanation? Fnc are the worst 2-1 Team And mibr had the easiest route
2018-09-14 23:22
#18
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Poland Hell2k 
why you say big shit hahah and what is your point mr retard?
2018-09-14 23:13
#19
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Germany sunnyrain 
just do the opposite of what the bushholz system would do => perfect system
2018-09-14 23:13
"bucholzz will stop the good teams playing the good teams and bad teams playing bad teams" said who? btw BIG is s pretty good high tier 2 team
2018-09-14 23:13
#25
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Guatemala unb11 
Fnatic Good team pick one LUL
2018-09-14 23:14
+1 NiP are way better than them atm
2018-09-14 23:16
#48
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Guatemala unb11 
NiP way better ofc. they lose vs NaVi and Luquid (top2 and top3 teams) its okey
2018-09-14 23:19
#29
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Latvia 6matko 
Great system. Idk why you are mad :/
2018-09-14 23:14
#31
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Ukraine niXoN|w1 
Since when is Xizt's fnatic considered a "good team", so far they have been very very disappointing?
2018-09-14 23:15
shut up 3rd worlder you don't deserve to critic this system 0IQ
2018-09-14 23:15
#36
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Brazil mrk15 
Just imagine how 2-2 matchups will look like... FFS i'm done with swiss/bucholzz system
2018-09-14 23:16
EZ4Buchholz
2018-09-14 23:16
BIG keeps getting so fucking lucky. They’re gonna get bopped by a top team the second they join the server.
2018-09-14 23:16
#55
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United States Jardeet 
youtube.com/watch?v=jhKwRyxoDVc this is why BIG are even in the major cycle because they abused bugs in the game
2018-09-14 23:20
disgusting
2018-09-15 00:21
#43
Latvia kjyy 
thats what happens when day 1 starts with upsets
2018-09-14 23:17
#45
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France StickyRice 
Fnatic is a shit team, don't you know ? 100% gonna go 2-2 losing to NaVi and likely gonna go 2-3 after (maybe not if they play the winner of C9/G2 or TyLoo if TyLoo somehow beats FaZe)
2018-09-14 23:17
Astralis - Mibr good vs shit BIG - HR good vs shit Navi - Fnatic good vs shit I dont know where your problem is
2018-09-14 23:18
#73
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Guatemala unb11 
Sorry but BIG isnt good team, their game inconsistent af, lose to Vega, lose to Complexity 2 times, but in same time beat FaZe, TyLoo. Very average results, even HR looks same or better.
2018-09-14 23:30
0/8 Complexity is strong Vega was really close Faze was not average result, tyloo also not On the other side HR had won a worse result vs Tyloo, OT vs C9 lmao, lost to G2 lmao, OT vs Optic lmao and 14-16 vs Gambit lmao. HR looks worse
2018-09-14 23:34
#81
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Guatemala unb11 
Actually 50/50 game, odds show this.
2018-09-14 23:36
Bo1 in this major is always close to 50/50
2018-09-14 23:37
#54
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Europe Dismal 
You don't understand. It only works if the good teams play good and the bad teams play bad. What matters is how good or bad you play at the tournament. Teams that play insane will not play against each other. You can't reward a team for being good in other tournaments. Their results in this major are the only factor that changes who they play
2018-09-14 23:20
that's ok about bucholzz system other thing is that, u have to go 2-0 or 2-1 to get an easier opponent. If underdogs loses in all matches, it could work in 100%,but who expects such teams as FaZe and Mouz to go 0-2 and Big with Complexsity to 2-0
2018-09-14 23:29
#75
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Sweden akaSheeva 
"shit teams like big" worst bait after mibr top 1
2018-09-14 23:31
#78
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
Dude, neither of these games are knock out... the top teams should be there.
2018-09-14 23:34
#83
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Germany zeolikk 
its BUCHHOLZ not bucholzz
2018-09-14 23:37
i was about to say that.. but who are we kidding, these guys complaining here are just your typical hltv kids with 0 iq..
2018-09-15 00:04
#92
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Germany zeolikk 
+1
2018-09-15 00:23
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