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Have a few Inside and they already started to search for a new player right after the loss to be ready for ESL one NEW YORK with their new lineup, they will likely try to buy twist and maybe someone for mousesprt and surely kick draken and flusha its up to the org now but the obvious thing to do is to kick flusha and xizt just to at least keep the major qual spot and buy twist, sunny
2018-09-17 18:47
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#1
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Russia Slavaa 
0/8
2018-09-17 18:49
surely kick draken and flusha but the obvious thing to do is to kick flusha and xizt make your pick retard
2018-09-17 18:50
#4
acoR | 
Spain kroosw0w 
+10000
2018-09-17 18:51
Thats what the team is planning dumbass, but im giving my opinion after it and saying kicking xizt would be better, learn to read but I guess its expected from 2IQ monkey
2018-09-17 19:01
flusha is core won't get kicked
2018-09-17 18:51
#63
CeRq | 
Canada Timings 
The guy you are answering to never said Flusha will get kicked lol.
2018-09-17 20:49
All 5 are the core
2018-09-17 23:55
#61
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Portugal sToleNN 
just kick draken, flusha is still a legend and can show up some good things with a good environment
2018-09-17 20:49
#3
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Croatia mds818 
gotta love all the newfags hating on flusha while draken and xizt are legit lol
2018-09-17 18:51
you're the same kind of guy that keep on defending get right over the year because he was good 4 years ago right??? Flusha has been terrible this year aside of Katowice and its been 2 years since his level disappeared, dont be delusional he is trash atm and kicking him would benefit fnatic so much, especially if they plain to replace him by a player like twist
2018-09-17 18:57
#11
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Croatia mds818 
Nope I'm not. I never said flusha is either a god or some sort of star player or whatever don't get me wrong, but you have to look at the bigger picture rather than just kills. Considering your defense of either draken or xizt...(lets ignore flusha in this situation, they cant lose more than 2 players right?) xizt is making terrible map pool decisions.. since he joined they lost 9/10 either pistol rounds or anti eco rounds, they can't exit the fucking group stage.... draken can't hit anything he went from being a star player in nip to being a bot in fnatic... with all due respect towards every player, if one person can't do his job he should be replaced.
2018-09-17 18:57
still think draken is doing a better job than flusha in this team, and by far, you should Watch some demos of flusha from this major and the last month, it will give you an idea, literally a free kill on the ct side and really overagressive when he doesnt need to, and on the t side he is just used as a decoy that only play with the mac 10, appart of that he has no impact and doesnt seem motivated at all outside of the game
2018-09-17 19:00
#18
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Croatia mds818 
Not sure whatever if you know flusha or not(or anyone from the 2015 fnatic) but they were never motivated... never. hltv.org/gallery/view/56432 early 2016, fnatic were gods at the time.. face of the motivation lol hltv.org/stats/players/events/9255/drake.. fnatic stats vs nip stats hltv.org/stats/players/events/3055/flush.. last 4 events, they have literally the same stats but draken was fucking star player in nip just before he left
2018-09-17 19:03
At least flusha was never looking this depressed after the games, even the game he won he barely shaked hands and looked like he putted himself out of the team, imo he is getting cut and Ive heard it too which makes me even more sure about it, lets see
2018-09-17 19:06
#21
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Croatia mds818 
you really never watched the guy huh?
2018-09-17 19:08
I have and thats why im saying it, as I said we will see, you could be very surprised considering how delusional you're being there
2018-09-17 19:09
#23
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Croatia mds818 
lemme explain you some things Twist is an awper, if you want him to perform but REALLY perform he needs awp and he needs space and he can beat pretty much anyone(but the thing is that everyone himself included are saying "good rifler hybrid etc" Draken is pretty much the same guy just the fact that he's actually worse and overrated af Xizt has been shit both as an igl and as an player....
2018-09-17 19:14
thats literally what im saying, at least 2 of these 3 will be kicked if not the 3 and the pick up will be twist and surely a player from mouz who have some internal problems and plan to do some changes
2018-09-17 19:22
#25
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Croatia mds818 
they wont kick 3 because of a major spot thats 100000 percent sure, and its at the moment more logical to kick draken over flusha, xizt just has to go
2018-09-17 19:23
xizt is the igl and JW wants him in the team, if fnatic want to kick only two players it will must likely be draken and flusha, even if I think that kicking xizt is needed, they dont seem to think so, pros just like xizt too much
2018-09-17 19:26
#32
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Croatia mds818 
dude if they're going to keep xizt they can straight up disband... fnatic with dennis olof twist and *insert two more players* looked way better and that lineup was in the nutshell
2018-09-17 19:28
I totally agree with this but Fnatic just seem to overrate xizt and his abilities as an igl, even hampus would be better but JW just doesnt want to kick him
2018-09-17 19:30
#55
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Nepal Askje 
jw want to play more with flusha than with xizt, if they really want to kick someone it would be 100% xizt and draken
2018-09-17 20:22
no, were not in 2016 with the dogsent shit, JW and flusha arent a package deal anymore and dont have as much friendship as in the old days, you will be surprised of the roster changes that will happen
2018-09-17 20:38
#16
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Sweden MANDlNGO 
Gotta love those people calling others newfag. You are the cancer of this site.
2018-09-17 19:01
Cud work sunny and twist can add so much stability to fnatic
2018-09-17 18:51
#29
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Croatia mds818 
idk how well will he perform under other leadership
2018-09-17 19:26
He is a professional player they ll all settle in few period and some matches
2018-09-17 19:27
#33
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Croatia mds818 
....dude you're forgetting some important points, ie how tabsen and nex played with/without gob b, there're some more examples
2018-09-17 19:29
I don't think sunny is such player he is pretty good he did well in Penta and did good in mouz too
2018-09-17 19:30
#36
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Croatia mds818 
you never know that...
2018-09-17 19:31
Yea maybe may not
2018-09-17 19:31
"Buy twist" twist does not have a team rn lul
2018-09-17 18:54
he is on the bench, not kicked, which means he still needs to be buy out
2018-09-17 18:55
#12
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Spain loviac 
+1
2018-09-17 18:58
henry G is that u?
2018-09-17 18:59
I would like sunny in fnatic but I don't think he'll leave who knows, maybe fnatic goes international -xizt +karrigan -flusha +sunny
2018-09-17 19:00
imo the best idea for FNATIC, and replace draken by twist and they will at least be a consistent top team for once and stop fucking around
2018-09-17 19:03
yup that would be a good change
2018-09-17 19:03
#27
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Croatia mds818 
karrigan... come on dude are you fucking kidding me?
2018-09-17 19:26
Better IGL than Xizt for sure, actually studies the opponents and knows how to run strats and vetoes against them.
2018-09-17 19:31
#39
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Croatia mds818 
Bruh I'm better igl than xizt.... pretty much everyone is
2018-09-17 19:32
Who do you think should they get then
2018-09-17 19:37
#41
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Croatia mds818 
barbar without a doubt, and I can give you plenty of reasons He can use player's potential well(deadfox, rez, draken, freddieb and plenty of more were in team with the guy before they joined better teams) He's a solid fragger(not playing really against top tier teams) Plenty of expirience Never had a shot in the top tier/high tier team
2018-09-17 19:41
I doubt he could work within a top team because of his lack of experience tho
2018-09-17 19:45
#44
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Croatia mds818 
can it work out? I don't know is there atm a better swedish igl? No.(hampus is upcomming but idk yet) You don't know untill you try out
2018-09-17 19:49
Like I said I feel like they are better off with going international but they'll probably stick to being a national team.
2018-09-17 20:05
#52
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Croatia mds818 
..and who would u pick from international scene? Duh gimme more examples if u want but lets see for igl role ofc
2018-09-17 20:17
#84
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Brazil on_you 
take your dirty hands out of my precious boi suNny
2018-09-17 23:38
JW and sunny are good friends so why not? And mouz doesn't rly show good results either
2018-09-17 23:53
#26
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Finland Gaabzz 
sunny its not moving on mouse that for sure
2018-09-17 19:24
NiP and fnatic should swap Dennis and JW.
2018-09-17 19:26
#62
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
jw and krimz are the best players in fnatic
2018-09-17 20:49
jw xD
2018-09-17 20:53
#69
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
he is good as a rifler
2018-09-17 21:03
#45
k0nfig | 
Denmark QDouble 
kick draken and xizt its not flusha's fault. we saw what he can do at iem katowice won the tournament single handedly. - xizt - draken +olof and lekro maybe
2018-09-17 19:51
again that stupid Katowice argument, he has been shit all year aside of this tournament, ofc a lot of pros have at least one tournament a year where they go off, but its not enough at all, he is really inconsistent and playing terrible these last months, surely their worst performing member considering xizt is igling
2018-09-17 19:53
#48
k0nfig | 
Denmark QDouble 
his igling is not even good. fnatic is just doing basic executions. no need for igl's to throw some nades and walk into sides anyway. also flusha played good at wesg too. but its hard to play good with 2 noobs in the team. he could get more kills if he baited but he is playing entry most of the times and everybody knows what he can do.
2018-09-17 19:58
#57
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Sri Lanka khorkalba 
2018 stats for Swedish players: hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2018-01.. Yes, Flusha has dropped off a lot since Katowice and had a terrible major... but you have to ask why he's playing so bad. Draken and JW struggle because they're not very good players. Xizt struggles because he's IGL with fairly average fragging ability. I think Flusha is only struggling because he is fed up and demotivated. Regardless of form, him and Krimz (who was also dogshit for a large portion of last year) have by far the most skill potential on the team. They're the ones Fnatic should build around.
2018-09-17 20:25
#71
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Nepal Askje 
cmon man, JW is playing very good in 2018, krimz and jw are carrying the fnatic most of time now. flusha is struggling but on t side he is very good supporter he just need to have motivation back and he will be good again, fnatic just need to kick draken and xizt, if this wont work they can remove one of their trio but now its most stupid move from them.
2018-09-17 21:12
Kick Xizt and draken, get Hampus and twist. Hampus great IGL and great frager at the same time (Xizt is bad at both and Golden is good at calling but not fraging) twist is a great awper (which the swedish scene really lacks right now) With this move, just be clear to flusha that he needs to wake up/step up (knife to his throat) And everything will be fine.
2018-09-17 19:57
#65
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
i dont get all the hampus hype....godset were a top 20 team with freddieb igl , and since hampus joined they have getting shittier and shittier
2018-09-17 20:52
vice versa. They didn't bring freddieB as an IGL. Their "good" period was when hampus IGL'ed. I understand your doubt though. But could it be worse than Xizt ? Atleast he has some fresh and fun stuff to show! :)
2018-09-17 21:14
#80
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
+1 , nothing can be worse than xizt but i dont think fnatic wants to start from scratch like they did with golden , its gonna take months before they will be ready to be a tier 1 team if they bring in a young igl.
2018-09-17 21:28
Good point. I think it's necessary for the swe scene in the long run though. Give away the last 2 months of this year to start the next year by being a contender for the trophys.
2018-09-17 21:41
Btw Source says that KRIMZ is in discussion to go in faze and replace karrigan, if Nothing is done in FNATIC he is gone 100% and reunite with olof
2018-09-17 20:03
#53
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Croatia mds818 
We will see i guess
2018-09-17 20:18
#72
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Nepal Askje 
source? give me
2018-09-17 21:13
#83
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Sweden bag0fdicks 
My sources tell me that krimz will never leave fnatic
2018-09-17 23:10
He already did and wont hesitate to do it again considering the situation of this team and the talent he is wasting atm
2018-09-17 23:48
-xizt -draken +olofm +pronax make fnatic great again!
2018-09-17 20:07
#54
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Croatia mds818 
They are not gods anymore m8
2018-09-17 20:19
twist
2018-09-17 20:23
per sources
2018-09-17 20:44
#64
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Macedonia nemanyacs 
draken is just a ball of ego ,xizt can work out and there is no way they will kick flusha
2018-09-17 20:50
same with coldzera
2018-09-17 20:52
#68
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
xizt has to go. he is terrible. thats it , no other way about it. just comparing him with golden is like comparing bmw with rickshaw. he has horrible calls/reads , no innovative strats , no team coordination , and literally in 4 months he hasnt been able too develop a single good ct side , and on t side every round he plays default or a stupid game throwing rush through smoke draken is garbage , misses every shot - draken + twist -xizt +brollan / friberg solid entry fragger flusha to igl , get a tactical coach like pronax who could come up with strats. flusha should stay in the team because in every roster of fnatic he has been great , but under xizt he has been shit. if he stays shit then kick him
2018-09-17 21:02
#70
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Russia SP3C73R 
Golden/hampus SaphiX twist/JW flusha KRiMZ
2018-09-17 21:04
#74
flusha | 
Belgium M4RTEN 
- xizt +Lekro IGL - draken + olofmeister JW sniping again
2018-09-17 21:16
someone from moussports omegalul
2018-09-17 21:17
xizt is just shit just kick him and now either do: -xizt +brollan -draken +twist Flusha IGL or -xizt +hampus -flusha +brollan
2018-09-17 21:17
#77
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Yugoslavia mrmojo 
Last time they were somewhat in-form and won two titles in a row flusha had the biggest part to play and they know when he's on his game there are few who can compete with him, but this event only Krimz was playing good and jw had flashes, the rest were really mediocre.
2018-09-17 21:17
I dont think they will ever kick flusha cuse if you want JW you have flusha if you want flush you have JW
2018-09-17 21:22
#79
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Sweden Kopi11 
Since Faze seems to be having a lot of problems i would think that the ideal change would be -draken -flusha +olof +twist Maybe +Hampus -xizt instead of -flusha and +twist, if they want to get a better igl, xizt has been a little bit shaky with his calling, but defenitely would add Olof if I had the chanse. He has been playing really good this major and did say when he left Fnatic that he would like to return one day, I think the time has come for him to do that if Faze dosen't knock out Astralis and win the major.
2018-09-17 21:24
#82
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Sweden Lagge15 
If Flusha is on his way out I think it most likely will mean cArn is on his way out as well. With flusha gone JW won't stay long. Without core people nothing is keeping Krimz there (unless Olof comes back). Twist has already turned down Fnatic ones this year, why wouldn't he do that again? With changes these big they won't be ready for New York.
2018-09-17 21:53
Who cares about new york when your roster is totamly dead??? Better to even decide not to attend it and focus on rebuilding a decent looking team, there are many more tournaments comming and THEY WILL make some changes anyway
2018-09-17 23:50
#87
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Sweden Lagge15 
I agree. They could take some time off and start over. I wan't Flusha and JW to "come back" but that doesn't seem likely. But it seems as unlikely that cArn and Flusha will leave. And from what I gathered Xzist and Draken is on real contracts, not just some short over a few months!
2018-09-17 23:52
its doesnt matter at all, if they arent working the org will find a way to get others players, they could just bench them and wait for offers from lower teams, btw carn will stay and he has Nothing to do with flusha, he is a smart guy and im pretty sure he can understand when he is wrong and do whatever it takes for fnatic's return in a good level at CS, + if he doesnt he will get pressured by the org owners
2018-09-18 19:17
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