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Krimz and Draken heat
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India nAgent 
I was watching fnatic vs hellraisers first map mirage just now. I noticed after nice comeback and overtime win everybody in fnatic did handshake with each other. Draken did handshake with everybody and when Krimz came both just ignored and walk past each other.
2018-09-18 19:46
#1
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United Kingdom MitchCrompton 
-draken pls
2018-09-18 19:46
#3
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India nAgent 
2018-09-18 19:49
#4
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Brazil instagramsucks 
Krimz please join faze and partnership with olof again.
2018-09-18 19:51
he will not
2018-09-18 19:52
#7
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India nAgent 
-carrygun then?
2018-09-18 19:52
absolutely
2018-09-18 19:54
If Faze really kick Karrigan and if Fnatic keep draken then maybe
2018-09-18 19:53
#5
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Faroe Islands memento_1 
+twist confirmed
2018-09-18 19:52
The fall of draken, from a rising star in sweden to an arrogant little boy with Botmoves...
2018-09-18 19:54
#11
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India nAgent 
Its because of draken i started liking smooya.
2018-09-18 19:56
#12
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North America f^rax 
sucks if actually has that kind of attitude, explains why he was removed from NIP even though lekr0 wasn't an awper
2018-09-18 19:58
#29
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Lithuania andy_ 
+1, wasted potential
2018-09-18 20:24
#13
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Europe potatomato 
2018-09-18 20:01
#20
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Europe pencilvester 
+1
2018-09-18 20:05
#27
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Sweden pend3x1g 
+1
2018-09-18 20:12
#30
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Lithuania andy_ 
LUL
2018-09-18 20:25
hope fnatic kick xizt draken and flusha, they will never be good again with such shit fraggers and teammates outside the game (not talking about flusha there but his individual level is REALLY poor)
2018-09-18 20:00
Flusha is core won't get kicked
2018-09-18 20:03
then they will stay bad and inconsistent forever, they have to do Something about this core or they will never evolve, flusha already seem like he is demotivated and doesnt get along with the rest of the team
2018-09-18 20:04
He is just having a bad time
2018-09-18 20:05
he is having a bad time since more than 2 years now….. Only tournament where he showed some glimps of his old form was Katowice and he started to be REALLY bad a few weeks after the event, just look at his last months performances and demos, thats really some pathetic stuff most of the time, totally useless on the ct side and only serve as a decoy on the t side
2018-09-18 20:09
#15
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Portugal xxxRUI75xxx 
If you begin to add the pieces of the puzzle, such as Fnatic´s recent form and JW´s interview to HLTV a few days ago (you can look for it in the news section of the portal), where he basically said that Draken was a second choice and so on... It becomes pretty obvious that this lineup will not have a very long life and there will be changes very soon.
2018-09-18 20:00
+1, most likely happening before new York and if fnatic management dont do a shit about that dead roster krimz will 100% leave for a team like mouz or FaZe
2018-09-18 20:01
#26
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Nepal permyxd 
would be good before new york but ny is starting in wednesday so i think they dont have enough time so find and sign new player, most likely after ny
2018-09-18 20:11
#17
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Croatia mds818 
with all due respect, that lineup never had a chance, yes I was like woo a fragging igl maybe he can do something maybe he's not(that) bad etc, when first event came in I was like aite... second event I already gave up on the lineup
2018-09-18 20:03
#22
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Nepal permyxd 
first even was very good when i watched it. they play a structure cs but after time they are playing bad and bad
2018-09-18 20:09
#33
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Croatia mds818 
losing 100 percent of your pistol rounds and anti eco rounds doesn't not make a good team, and neither does having 1-2 players not performing at all for first 20-25 rounds and uhm... you don't pick your opponents best map every time.
2018-09-18 20:37
#35
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Nepal permyxd 
yeahhh i know it aswell but i meant that only first month they play well and i tought they need more practise but look now
2018-09-18 20:41
#36
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Croatia mds818 
major was a dissapointement sure but im not surprised
2018-09-18 20:42
#37
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Nepal permyxd 
yeah i knew they cant go far but i tought they atleast go thru the group
2018-09-18 20:43
#39
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Croatia mds818 
with xizt certainly not
2018-09-18 20:43
#24
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Nepal permyxd 
fnatic need someone like zonic in astralis who can watch demos and make strats. even flusha can be igl if someone can do strats and watching demos. then they can take 2 star players or just kick draken and maybe xizt, keep flusha cause he is very smart player and i believe that he has only bad time/
2018-09-18 20:10
#24
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Nepal permyxd 
fnatic need someone like zonic in astralis who can watch demos and make strats. even flusha can be igl if someone can do strats and watching demos. then they can take 2 star players or just kick draken and maybe xizt, keep flusha cause he is very smart player and i believe that he has only bad time/
2018-09-18 20:10
#31
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Norway Barter6 
See my answer below, #28 - I also agree that they would need someone like a zonic to get close to the top again. I don't know if cArn or anyone from the earlier Swedish days can deliver them that? Carn probably has a good fucking salary already (he is still working for the fnatic management, isn't he?) If there are no other options... fuck, get SPUNJ or something, although I like him so much on that fucking desk. You sexy aussie you.
2018-09-18 20:36
#34
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Nepal permyxd 
i dont remember anyone maybe vuggo? or try even pronax if he wants to do it. i think good option would be kick draken and xizt, flusha can be igl with help from good coach like vuggo or pronax ( i dont know anyone good at it who can be )
2018-09-18 20:39
#40
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Norway Barter6 
Yea, pronax would probably be a kick-ass analyst. They would need a duo of personalities imo. Pronax would be a fucking champ in analyzing and coaching them in-game wise, but I think they need some leadership guidance as well, and from what I've seen, pronax lacks a bit of that. Isn't that why North hired both ave and wHimp? Don't know what vuggo does these days. He might've been gone from the scene for too long, but Sweden has so much talent in their history that finding one or two people to coaching flusha, JW, Krimz +2 in the right direction should not be a problem at all. Fnatic has deep enough pockets, don't they (??)
2018-09-18 20:50
#44
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Nepal permyxd 
yeah, same feeling. at least now im 100% sure they must kick draken, then kick xizt and then coach. if they can do this 3 they can be top team again but if now then go international or dont know separate this core?
2018-09-18 20:47
#47
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Norway Barter6 
If bringing in two new young players and an analyst/coach/both won't work after a few months, I'd say it's time for the core to go seperate ways. I still believe they all should keep their spot in T1 teams in the foreseeing future though!
2018-09-18 20:52
#51
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Nepal permyxd 
yeah exactly, i hope they will make changes asap and then we can say more about it but now its easy -> make changes and see what it will bring
2018-09-18 20:55
#55
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Norway Barter6 
Agreed. It's time to make changes now. It's starting to become embarrassing to the fans. The biggest disappointment of the major was fnatic, and I think every desk, analyst, commentator, w/e would agree.
2018-09-18 20:59
#56
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Nepal permyxd 
yeah, i knew that they wont go deep but make atleast top8 :/
2018-09-18 21:01
#59
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Norway Barter6 
Indeed
2018-09-18 21:05
#28
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Norway Barter6 
If anything I think flusha is burnt the fuck out. He looks bored and not dedicated at all, which is a shame. Changes in fnatic will happen for sure. I can definetely see krimz and flusha not doing well with draken personality-wise. Twist is coming in for sure, and to be honest i'd remove Xizt and gamble on someone young with firepower such as Brollan, or even refrezh from Fragsters. He should be able to understand Swedish just fine, and with time they should be able to understand him quite good too. We already know Xizt is not that big of a tactical leader anyway, and he is not fragging good as of late. Not even decent. Imo, Xizt is next in line in the Fifflaren saga (retiring, going into T2 teams like friberg etc) I don't see him clicking well with the other personalities either. And they already have tons of experience to make mid-rounds decisions together... so why not gamble on someone young. 0.02 $
2018-09-18 20:32
#32
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Norway Barter6 
Not implying stavn wouldn't be a good choice either, but refrezh looks hungry as fuck. You can tell that this guy wants to move up in the rankings and stay there.
2018-09-18 20:37
#43
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Croatia mds818 
tldr?
2018-09-18 20:45
#45
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Norway Barter6 
flusha is burnt out. Still top 20 player in the world on top of his game. I'd say -draken -Xizt and +twist and +Brollan/refrezh. You might say "refrezh???", but they should have no problem communicating if fucking mibr can translate into an international team. Brazilians are utter shit in English. I am a Norwegian and can understand Danish people OK. Not fine, not good, but OK if I listen well enough. And I think Danish people can understand Swedish quite well
2018-09-18 20:49
#46
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Croatia mds818 
-refresh +barbar ....and we see that lineup working out pretty well huh, I mean nothing specal we just have top tier team turning into tier999 team struggling to pass the group stages #englishftw
2018-09-18 20:51
#50
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Norway Barter6 
What? Edit: Are you saying you want to bring BARBARR in to fnatic? Or get him in to Fragsters? Because both the options are shit
2018-09-18 20:56
#53
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Croatia mds818 
understanding language "pretty well" and actually understanding the language is not the same and it cant work in cs, yes I can understand russians but I can't communicate shit with them(example) also they need igl, flusha cant do it
2018-09-18 20:57
#57
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Norway Barter6 
Obviously. I do know how much intense communication CS actually requires, which is why this is not a case of bringing in ex. Xantares to fnatic because he is so fucking good. This is a case of two languages that, as far as I know, can understand eachother and communicate at a high enough level. As I said, I am Norwegian and can understand and communicate with both Swedes and Danish people just fine. But if any Danish people want's to clarify or prove my statement wrong, please speak out! Also, do they need a dedicated igl? What about a coach? They have 3 major champions with several experience. Decent mid-round calling from one or two of them should be no problem with the current meta
2018-09-18 21:04
#58
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Croatia mds818 
well obviously I cant confirm that since im not scandinavian but... still they need igl, as far as I know brollan and refresh are not igls
2018-09-18 21:04
#61
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Norway Barter6 
Obviously. Which is why I wrote "if any Danish people want's to clarify or prove my statement wrong, please speak out!" so I don't know why you'd even adress that. I don't agree. I think they would do just fine with better leadership outside the game and rely on experience, intuity and raw skill in-game. It can't be worse than the current state, so what do you propose? HUNDEN?
2018-09-18 21:07
#62
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Croatia mds818 
better leadership outside the game like who....? bruh.... I said once already barbar If I made team of 5x myself it would probably be better than current fnc Uhm.... kinguin v1/2.. anyone flashbacks?
2018-09-18 21:09
#64
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Norway Barter6 
That is the question I am discussing with TWiNTiMEeeeJW already in this thread, innit? Sweden has such a long history of good CS that finding someone to coach them and analyze, whilst also being a good fit, should be possible. TWiNTiMEeeeJW proposed pronax. I don't know if they might've gotten awkward because of their history, but if it's not; let's do it! Personally I rarely think having 5 players without a igl is a good idea, but in this case, I think the other options are worse. BARBARR is not the solution. Sorry. He had his chance already.. there is a reason he is no longer around.
2018-09-18 21:14
#65
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Croatia mds818 
he had his chance where exactly(in csgo)? I dont think that pronax is the solution considering the fncsent situation ...in this case, mate there's no case we already saw fnatic without igl plenty of times it never worked out well your situation could work if coaches were allowed to talk but..... hampus maybe?
2018-09-18 21:19
#66
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Norway Barter6 
The fact that BARBARR has not played in a relevant team in probably 3 or more years tells me he blew his chance and has nothing fresh to bring to the table. I like hampus as a player. Can he IGL? Because I would not prefer hampus over refrezh/Brollan
2018-09-18 21:24
#67
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Croatia mds818 
hampus is already igl ...he never played in the relevant team(excluding epsilon for some time) but before they joined better teams he had rez, draken, freddieb, deadfox and probably some more which I don't remember....
2018-09-18 21:27
#68
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Norway Barter6 
freddieb has been IGLing the matches I've watched, but k
2018-09-18 23:29
#69
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Croatia mds818 
before yes but hampus has been igl for quite some time now
2018-09-18 23:30
#70
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Norway Barter6 
Listen, i know this is one game, but this is not a fit for fnatic at this point. (hltv.org/matches/2326816/fragsters-vs-x6.. Talking about BARBARR.
2018-09-20 20:06
#71
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Croatia mds818 
fnatic logic lol
2018-09-21 19:13
#63
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Norway Barter6 
Even if what I what I believe to be the case with the languages is the case, and they had the opportunity to bring in Acilion, friberg or any other players from Heroic, i wouldn't do it. I think they need something fresh and new. Someone with hunger. As we know, they have the experience. Brollan and refrezh are both hungry and skilled the fuck out.
2018-09-18 21:10
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World mukas17 
It is known. JW said that xizt was the best signing they made in a while and no mention of draken.
2018-09-18 20:43
#41
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Norway Barter6 
Yea, I saw he said that. I'm just not seeing it tho. It feels like Xizt is not fitting in. But fuck, I guess they know best!
2018-09-18 20:45
#42
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Nepal permyxd 
maybe for jw its good but i think is one of the worst :/
2018-09-18 20:45
#54
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Croatia mds818 
lol
2018-09-18 20:57
yeah but JW is clearly delusional about the situation unfortunately, the guy prefers friendship over success
2018-09-18 21:05
#48
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Sweden ThorinEk 
clip pls or didnt happened
2018-09-18 20:53
#52
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India nAgent 
Its a clickbait dude. wanted to try some new topic. They did shook hands.
2018-09-18 20:56
#49
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Germany Gl0ryHunt3R 
he should join mouz (-snax)
2018-09-18 20:54
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