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JW | 
Sweden bolognese 
Monday we will have debate in a small group in front of the class. I need some help with arguments. I will argue AGAINST lowered taxes and AGAINST harder punishment (crimes). you all have 200 iq so I need help yes
2018-09-19 14:29
#1
JW | 
Sweden bolognese 
help bolognese win yes
2018-09-19 14:29
#24
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United States Topunderscore 
Why did you chose the soy boy topic. I’m all for taxes staying the same, if not higher for the rich. And higher punishment for 3rd degree crimes.
2018-09-19 15:47
"if not higher for the rich." what a fucking dick you are
2018-09-19 19:08
#112
JW | 
Sweden bolognese 
Why do you think it's wrong that the super rich pay higher taxes? They still have money left to live unbelievable luxury
2018-09-20 10:37
#120
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Germany Vini_1337 
if you really think people should pay more taxes because they earn more money, you should go back to 1980 and visit your soviet brothers
2018-09-20 11:02
#121
JW | 
Sweden bolognese 
I don't know anything about history :(
2018-09-20 11:02
and u should visit some nobel prize winners in economics, my omegalul friend
2018-09-21 04:56
#135
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Germany Vini_1337 
so winning a prize which is determined by a jury of 7 or 8 people qualifies somebody to say what does work and what is right in terms of economics ? lul you must be really stupid and sad with your life to say that people who earn more also need to pay higher taxes
2018-09-21 09:03
not pretending FeelsWeirdMan, ofc it's not the jury, it's the peer reviewed scientific studies that do, Phds in economics and tenure in prestigious universities. lul not some ayn rand reading moron on the internet you must be actually retarded to argue the way you do bro :D
2018-09-21 14:24
Milton Friedman
2018-09-21 21:47
Joseph Stiglitz ? people learnt much more since the days of Milton Friedman and especially from the failure of 2008, u gotta update your 1960s info bro edit: unless ofc you wanna pay for the market failures each and every time
2018-09-21 23:27
I mean, the problem is that the rich will just move to tax safe havens and you lose the money all together
2018-09-21 11:59
#111
JW | 
Sweden bolognese 
Remember this is about Sweden, not US. And also, I didn't choose the sides of argument for or against, but if you have any ideas I would love to hear them!
2018-09-20 10:36
#65
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Netherlands Vladrurik 
Just fyi when you're debating make sure you are confident and speak like you know what you're talking about. Use a lot of statistics and facts and when talking to the audience look at everyone not just at your paper.
2018-09-19 18:18
#113
JW | 
Sweden bolognese 
Thanks for the tips friend :D yeah lmao gotta be prepared
2018-09-20 10:37
if someone interupts you spit him in the face, if someone tries to fight your arguments show them your butterfly knife which you will hode in your jacket, should be all fine, youll win the debate
2018-09-20 13:44
#125
JW | 
Sweden bolognese 
I’ll bring a gun jk
2018-09-20 13:45
aka someone do my homework im lazy
2018-09-19 14:30
#3
JW | 
Sweden bolognese 
nah I know this is the specialty of hltv, political debates why I’m askin
2018-09-19 14:31
#4
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World ///fuck 
Higher tax -> better welfare and we can take in more refugees who are in need of saftey, shelter and food!
2018-09-19 14:31
#6
JW | 
Sweden bolognese 
I don’t wanna bring up refugees but I’ll say we can help the ones who are here
2018-09-19 14:32
#14
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World ///fuck 
You have to show to your class where you stand in the immigrant issue, first day of uni I said I amfor open borders and freedom of travel and pro immigration, and anyone who disagrees can "dra åt fanders!". You need to make clear what YOU believe!
2018-09-19 14:34
#20
JW | 
Sweden bolognese 
XDDDD
2018-09-19 15:37
yeah that's why everything's so fucking bad in this country, people like you
2018-09-19 15:58
#37
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United Kingdom _P2K 
yikes
2018-09-19 16:52
#46
Lemmy | 
Poland MetalMan 
Muslim brainless donkey SMH
2018-09-19 16:59
#55
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World ///fuck 
Just because I dare to speak what I feel, and not fall for alt right propaganda
2018-09-19 17:42
but you fell for leftist propaganda omegalul
2018-09-19 19:10
Feelings and morality has no place in politics. And you, being a swedish citizen, please ellaborate on this "alt-right propaganda."
2018-09-19 19:33
#89
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World ///fuck 
Alex. Jones. Show.
2018-09-19 19:34
the alt-right doesnt even support Alex Jones, the alt-right is basicly just Neo-Nazis wanting a white ethno state.
2018-09-19 20:13
hi i dont agree ok bye
2018-09-20 13:41
also bad name magisk is integral part of astronklis ok bye
2018-09-20 13:55
nt fakeflagger
2018-09-20 14:50
#59
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Poland Ryunar 
you're a fucking dork
2018-09-19 17:56
is this why you have no friends and spent time on hltv lul
2018-09-19 19:11
#82
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World ///fuck 
friends are overrated, i'd rather debate people and have arguments than talking about the wather!
2018-09-19 19:15
How can you not bring up refugees when speaking about these two topics?
2018-09-21 09:31
#7
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United Arab Emirates thefactorfdoom 
I was with you until you said refugees
2018-09-19 14:32
#22
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Netherlands poeya 
PLZ STFU FAKE FLAGGER
2018-09-19 15:45
Yeah I'm totally fake flagging
2018-09-19 18:24
#91
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Netherlands poeya 
I know that already
2018-09-19 19:54
Yeah, totally haven't lived here my whole life
2018-09-19 20:07
#100
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Netherlands poeya 
bro you are from UAE and fan of isreal its impossible tbh
2018-09-19 20:26
You don't even know how many people like Israel here
2018-09-19 21:07
#108
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Netherlands poeya 
nobody ''likes'' shitsrael
2018-09-20 02:42
Here people do
2018-09-20 13:48
israel > arabs
2018-09-21 21:50
#29
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Malta hurgurhut 
Palestine > Israel stop killing kids
2018-09-19 15:56
#54
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Faroe Islands I_Oof_myself 
tell your brothers in gaza to stop hiding behind kids,stop throwing rockets at israel , stop doing terrorist attacks and to stop spreading fake news. thx
2018-09-19 17:42
Ok cool opinion, btw if you want them to stop killing kids, tell the idf not me
2018-09-19 18:25
lol tell it to russians, where high tax and lowest level of living
2018-09-19 19:11
#5
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Germany Dayjay 
taxes: - someone has to pay refugees and all those unemployed sjws
2018-09-19 14:31
#8
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Sweden chainylol 
the us has very hard punishments but still very high crime))
2018-09-19 14:32
#10
JW | 
Sweden bolognese 
+1 septillion
2018-09-19 14:33
#25
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United States Topunderscore 
Rather have crimes than rape
2018-09-19 15:48
???????????????????????????????????? Reply needs to have actual content
2018-09-19 16:59
the fuck did i just read
2018-09-19 19:12
#84
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Lithuania entyzan 
hot dog brain strikes again
2018-09-19 19:18
#104
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Sweden chainylol 
are you mentally ill
2018-09-19 22:35
You are fucking retarded haha
2018-09-21 10:16
#48
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Japan 0x0st 
japan is some of the toughest on crime, with long sentences in bad cells and death penalty but is probably the most peaceful country
2018-09-19 17:03
#48
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Japan 0x0st 
japan is some of the toughest on crime, with long sentences in bad cells and death penalty but is probably the most peaceful country
2018-09-19 17:03
I think America should separate the violent criminals from the non violent ones. Imagine a computer gamer who went out and got caught with a bit to much weed on him having to be with all the thugs.
2018-09-19 19:07
#103
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Sweden chainylol 
you dont have to imagine it, its actually real
2018-09-19 22:35
japan is some of the toughest on crime, with long sentences in bad cells and death penalty but is probably the most peaceful country
2018-09-21 21:51
Why the fuck would I argue for something I don't believe in. I'm definitely for harder punishment, Norway is a joke when it comes to criminals and punishments etc.
2018-09-19 14:33
#11
JW | 
Sweden bolognese 
same dude but I didn’t choose this, any idea? xd
2018-09-19 14:33
Prison is meant to "change people" and too harsh treatment in prison might turn out to make them worse? idk
2018-09-19 14:35
#19
JW | 
Sweden bolognese 
Interesting point. Maybe I can say focus should be put in improving prison time instead of lenghenting it?
2018-09-19 15:36
They probably won't keep track of the numbers but many that get out of jail after 20 years will basically have zero job skills and stuff on their record so almost impossible to fine a job. A lot of them just go right back to what they were doing, they have nothing to lose. Jail becomes their home, 3 hot meals a day cooked for you, sleep all your want, no job. For many it's 90% better then their outside life was.
2018-09-19 19:09
What if the harsh punishment is death penalty or being locked up for the rest of your life? It can't make them worse
2018-09-21 21:53
you didn't choose what sides you're debating??
2018-09-19 16:57
#53
Sweden hoey 
no, this happened to me as well when we were having debates. the teacher assigned people in groups and randomly gave us the subjects to debate
2018-09-19 17:34
lol wtf... debate time, children! your job is to debate why cutting your penis off is a great idea bc transgenderism is the right path. GO! yea, fuck that lol
2018-09-19 17:47
#79
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United States onyx824 
Focus on drug related crime, and rehabilitation instead of punishment. At least in the US, people who are just locked up are way more likely to be repeat offenders than those who receive a combination of jail and rehab.
2018-09-19 19:12
easy punishment, but higher rehabilitation rate than most countries
2018-09-19 16:54
Just use some big words and play with your intonation, thats how you win a school debate
2018-09-19 14:34
I remember one autistic kid who always scream and uses instruments in the class, like books and even a map from the wall to make it sounds dramatic even though i think that his arguments are like a joke, and he got 3rd place
2018-09-19 14:36
If taxes are higher, things such as healthcare and education could be really cheap or even free. Instead of strict punishments for criminals, rehabilitate them and make them functioning members of society. Btw I stand for lower taxes and capital punishment, just trying to help you
2018-09-19 14:35
"If taxes are higher, things such as healthcare and education could be really cheap or even free." its a stupid argument, but it could work in a school debate in a swedish school. nvm i think healthcare is already "free" there
2018-09-21 09:46
Yeah, I don't agree with it, but it's a school argument. Higher taxes will make healthcare cheaper though, but the quality of it decreases and wait times become really long
2018-09-21 11:55
#16
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Germany SL3ID3R 
Higher taxes help the collective good because the government has more money to spend on school and roads and such and soft punishment gives people the chance to recover and become a better person (also costs less because theyre not staying in jail so long)
2018-09-19 14:35
soft punishment also lends a lack of respect toward the judicial system
2018-09-19 16:58
#51
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Germany SL3ID3R 
not necessarily because you may respect the judicial system for giving you a chance to fix your life
2018-09-19 17:27
i can understand that with minor crimes murder, rape, armed robbery, battery, etc.... i dont think so a friend of mine at my fraternity house was born in Pakistan and grew up in Saudi Arabia. he told me a story about a time when he was in a market getting food with his dad. they came across an area with a fairly sized crowd and a man was getting publicly punished for stealing..... in front of everyone, they chopped his hand off and cauterized the wound in hot tar/oil now.... not saying you're a thief or something.... but would you hypothetically steal something if you knew that the punishment was that severe? i'm not saying that we should enact that type of punishment bc it's very extreme, but it's a good example for how strict judicial methods could instill fear in criminals. i'm a fan of capital punishment for people who are convicted of deliberate murder. i don't find life in prison (especially in our prisons..) as justice for deliberately taking another person's life
2018-09-19 18:00
I hate to say this, but clearly someone did steal knowing the consequence. Hence them seeing his hand chopped off. lol But yes, it would certainly deter people more often than not. Interestingly enough my old boss was from Pakistan and he was filling out paperwork to go back and visit family. On the paperwork itself there were very clearly defined rules for entering the country. One of them stuck out though. If you bring drugs of any kind in to Pakistan and you are caught, they will execute you. It clearly stated it in the paperwork, we will fucking kill you if you bring drugs here. There were some other 'we will kill you if' things listed in there, but that one stuck out. Also, no I am not helping you with your debate. Study hard, prepare, and deliver it with conviction. Be ready for alternative arguments. That is at the heat of a debate. Not what you say, but how you reply to opposing views.
2018-09-19 18:13
for sure, fully understand. i was just giving an example and i'm fully open to other opinions on the subject but yea, that would definitely deter me from bringing drugs into Pakistan lol
2018-09-19 18:25
Yeah buddy, not that I would visit Pakistan for any reason anyway, but if I did I wouldn't bring anything extra with me!
2018-09-19 18:50
Imagine if governments did not spend so much on the military. Why spend so much if you don't use it. We need a huge war soon or all the tax dollars went to waste.
2018-09-19 19:11
#114
chrisJ | 
Finland Motori 
But rich people will leave
2018-09-20 10:55
Higher taxes -> better military -> invade smaller countries and steal their resources -> your country is getting richer
2018-09-19 14:57
#26
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Europe hltv007 
we are not in 20th century anymore
2018-09-19 15:51
if its an US debate 100% win by definition
2018-09-19 15:55
#28
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Europe hltv007 
i thought that while i was writing it :D but US is an unique case-no other country can copy the US case
2018-09-19 15:56
the other countries are either too evolved to think that primitive or not enough powerful to achive their ambitions while risking confrontation with US and get invaded for that..
2018-09-19 16:07
#33
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Europe hltv007 
there are nukes involved now-unless there is an anti nuke technology that prevent all the nuke harm i don't believe it can be done.And if it's not the nukes-there are chemical and biological weapons of mass distraction so its a no no.
2018-09-19 16:10
nuke deterrence is overrated its a powerful instrument but hardly can stop country ruthless as US to achieve their agenda
2018-09-19 16:42
#35
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Europe hltv007 
its a parity world we live in now-no one will dare to use nukes cuz the whole planet will gonna die-only the top secret military bases filled with the elite and military personal and troops gonna survive a large scale nuclear biological chemical weapons conflict.They will live there for 50-70 years minimum at least untill the whole planet is ok to live on the ground.And that doesn't guarantee the outcome of a war-cuz any side is prepared for such a scenario.They could be found under anyway.There are military grade satellites that can scan deep under the ground for potential secret military bases hidden beneath.So they already know eachothers "secret military bases under the ground"
2018-09-19 16:50
ye i'm not denying that just saying that a nuclear apocalypse is off the list atleast for now unless some extremist organisation smh aqcuire nukes but its a good thing to be prepared for all the scenarios modern warfares are not about weapons but psychological like propaganda, disinformation etc.
2018-09-19 16:56
#47
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Europe hltv007 
only uneducated people can fall to such low stuff like fake news-but who cares about them-they are not in control of the governments
2018-09-19 16:59
shhhhh.. quiet please
2018-09-19 16:58
#21
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Europe hltv007 
lowering taxes means increasing the monthly income of the people which will lead to more spending which will lead to benefit to the economy which will help the country grow if the crime rate is increasing, harder punishment will not help lower the crime rate.If the crime rate of your country has increased it's because of the refugees if u look at the statistic and who is the detained person by ethnicity-you can prove that the crime rate is artificially increased by bringing these refugees in your country.So it's better to make new vast prisons and increase the policemen in the hot areas where the refugees are.And by law u can deport any non swedish who commit a crime.
2018-09-19 15:46
#83
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United States onyx824 
Trickle down economics doesn’t work well. The rich mainly save money, and the government spends.
2018-09-19 19:15
#87
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Europe hltv007 
well we are not talking about 1 rich man here-there are tons of rich people so some of them will make new job openings/expand their business etc :)
2018-09-19 19:25
#90
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United States onyx824 
In a ideal world that would happen, however that doesn’t usually happen IRL.
2018-09-19 19:42
#107
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Europe hltv007 
well if u go on a tax raise u will not benefit from the rich-they have already moved their money in offshore accounts.Germany for example have 40% tax as far as i remember and most of the people there evade taxes and store their money in Cyprus offshore account.The whole world should make something about the offshore accounts in order the rich people to pay their share and not hiding from the official state taxation.The economy is flying with one wing-the middle class and poor people's wages-where are the rich peoples money-they think it's ok to hide the money in offshore accounts.Even the people connected with the governments/government officials/ have offshore accounts-so they complain about tax evasion but they themselves are tax evading...
2018-09-20 00:53
The government is an inefficient piece of shit.
2018-09-21 21:57
#23
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Ukraine redeyevich 
Help this boy some1 pls
2018-09-19 15:47
Call someone "bitch", best argument ever
2018-09-19 16:08
yall niggas gay the best arguement
2018-09-19 16:52
#170
JW | 
Sweden bolognese 
ALPSTIG
2018-09-21 21:57
#38
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North America bloodwolf1710 
cant help you cuz youre wrong
2018-09-19 16:54
#42
smooya | 
United Kingdom trtr098 
when your opposition say something just go REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Call them facist nazi racist islamaphobe white-supremacist patriarchal anti-semite
2018-09-19 16:57
lowering taxes may give incentive for new entrants (business') into markets, however the money it cost to tax a potential larger amount of firms may cost the government more to collect than it will earn with lowered taxes, or net less profits as result of lowered taxes. This would mean that money/resource will not be allowed to be allocated as efficiently creating an opportunity cost, as resources will be given to collect tax, which could be put else where for more effect - potentially creating a net welfare lost to society via the resources/money being unable to be put into a positive aid in society. Harder punishments for criminals could make rehabilitation of criminals harder, meaning that after leaving jail some of these ex criminals may seek to act out on their vengeance onto society, potentially committing more crimes. Study's show that harsher punishments tend to show correlation with higher crime rate, more harsh punishments therefore do not aid lowering crime rates - as studies would suggest. yw
2018-09-19 17:09
#52
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Cyprus Jardeet 
U need high taxes so u can pay for unemployed useless brainless SJW retards to live at home and eat kebab and microwave pizza every single day because they are fat slobs. Then they are free to complain about irrelevant shit and to make up new genders
2018-09-19 17:31
so you are arguing in favor of the ultra cuckening that is happening right now in Sweden, have fun
2018-09-19 17:44
#60
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Poland Ryunar 
x] +1
2018-09-19 17:58
#58
shroud | 
Australia saumyax 
just say how much u love trump, hate 3rd wave feminism and how islam is a dangerous religion and see the magic happen half of the leftists in the debate outrage and destroy themselves then you calmly settle with your points make the opponent angry first > an angry person loses his temper ; makes mistakes ; cant get his point through right >> loses arguement
2018-09-19 17:49
#62
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Finland iamretard 
just do what our government does lie.
2018-09-19 18:01
So against lowered taxes, you can say that it helps the nation etc. (i'm not going in detail, because i'm lazy atm) Against harder punishment - you can say that if someone would be sent on a deathrow/life sentence, he has his life wasted unless police tries to check it again. Obviously there's no coming back from deathrow (you're very lucky if they let you out tbh), but imagine being in jail/prison for 20+ years or even 10 years being innocent.
2018-09-19 18:16
give me some of your nice delicious swedish Kötbollar and I will tell you what to do!
2018-09-19 18:25
#70
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Mexico LEWORb 
For the punishment debate. You can start the in modern civilizations, governments are not looking for punishments rather for a system to re-educate criminals so they can reincorporate their society and be useful and good citizens. So the point is not to ruin a prisoner life with longer sentences rather with more efficient systems to "convince" criminals to leave the criminal life behind.
2018-09-19 18:33
tell that rapefugees wont be able to come with lower taxes same goes with higher punishment for them tolerate captain sweden will mark u as a winner
2018-09-19 19:13
bring a gun
2018-09-19 19:19
maybe debate about refugees instead of ur stupid shit
2018-09-19 19:22
#95
JW | 
Sweden bolognese 
if I say refugee I am racist so no jk xD
2018-09-19 20:16
Damn, is it really like that in sweden? you can't even say it?
2018-09-21 09:07
#154
JW | 
Sweden bolognese 
meh not really these days, most people don't care but some are triggered af. I think it depends where you are and what people you hang around. My school has no problems with that stuff, but there is another school in this town where like everyone is feminists and shit lmao
2018-09-21 10:11
talk about your belief(?) in society and socialism and the belief that people change over time given proper counselling
2018-09-19 20:16
Idk qbout salary but copy norway for punishment
2018-09-19 20:17
low taxes: public services need money so lowering taxes reduces the quality of public services bla bla bla harder punishments: costs more to the country to keep prisoners in a long time. good thing to let prisoner free faster so they get work and pay taxes to the country instead or wasting money in prison
2018-09-19 20:18
Sorry, I support FOR on those topics.
2018-09-19 20:20
why against harder punishments,are you forced to go against them?In this case,I'm sorry bro,but this ain't happening. But for lower taxes - EU exists,15% VAT is more than normal for any country - NOT 20%. Say you wanna get something worth ~ 1000€,this 20% TAX adds 200€ to the price. This in some cases can mess up your calculations,because most products are firstly advertised in $ for the US market,and if you are planing to get a new device,let's say a phone for example,you see that it's price tag is 1000$,and you go like "Ok this is around 850€ - I can afford it" - NOPE the price tag actually ends up around 1100€ for some reason and your calculations - completely messed up. This has happened here with the launch of the iPhone X,that's why i gave this example.But I think you get my point - gl
2018-09-19 20:26
Dont complain about 20% vat, we got 25% in Denmark.
2018-09-21 09:20
its both shit
2018-09-21 09:38
true.
2018-09-21 09:40
the guy wanted an argument,I got him one - there done,I know that my country has one of the lowest vat rates in the eu,but still - not fun payin' it
2018-09-21 21:46
true
2018-09-21 21:46
#101
.PhP | 
Czech Republic wellbi 
Well, it's hard to argue against lower taxes. Because there are people who are much closer to those aformentioned 200 iq than any here on this forum who you had to argue with on the topic. Unless you want to argue from socialistic viewpoint. About crimes? IMO other than acts deserving ultimate punishment. (which I support ... in very specificaly interpreted way) ... justice system should be tuned towards rehabiliation. Because punishment just surpress the cause. Really harsh punishment can be detriment to will to do the act ever again. But most of the times there is recidive natural to most criminals. There is from socio psychical stand point something wrong with the processing in the brain or with the way how lymbic system and our cortex comunicate and that, on biological level, in a criminal. It's similiar to the way how Anxiety disorder, OCD and Panic disorder patients have wrong wiring and balancing in their brain. But it's treatable with heavy dose of cognitive behavioral therapy. Which is highly effective. Rehabilitation should be more like psychiatric treatment. And you don't need years of the thing. Also you can search for some research papers on the biology of punishment and the way how it makes thing worse in general for the specimen and his society. There's a bunch of the research on the matter in many species. Have fun.
2018-09-19 20:43
lower taxes: just give em the good ole trickle down economis bullshit story about how rich ppl create work and its good for the economy to deregulate and lower taxes. keep it simple and make sure you say so many bullshit things that your opponent cant even respond to 5% of them properly. less punishment for crimes: rehabilitation is the main issue, revenge is not. its about keeping ppl in a controlled environment so they cant hurt more innocent ppl until they are seemingly able to go back to society. longer punishments increase recidivism. jail is crime college.
2018-09-19 22:41
say refugees are bad 200iq, ez win
2018-09-19 22:49
#109
puTa | 
Brazil leeo^^ 
I strongly disagree with you in these subjects therefore I can't help you.
2018-09-20 02:51
#110
Brazil nyz 
So you have a point of view but don't have any arguments to support it? Average leftist I guess.
2018-09-20 02:54
#116
chrisJ | 
Finland Motori 
+1
2018-09-20 10:56
#122
JW | 
Sweden bolognese 
didn't choose my side noob
2018-09-20 11:02
#129
Brazil nyz 
well it's pretty stupid from your professors to make someone defend a point that they don't even agree.
2018-09-21 04:29
welcome to public school
2018-09-21 09:37
#153
JW | 
Sweden bolognese 
it's a way of learning the other side of an argument, which can be important when you wanna argue against that yourself in the future
2018-09-21 10:10
#115
chrisJ | 
Finland Motori 
Just say that it benefits the poor
2018-09-20 10:56
#131
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Brazil rageMASTERBR 
Too populist
2018-09-21 04:50
#117
chrisJ | 
Finland Motori 
There is college in swedistan?
2018-09-20 10:57
#132
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Brazil rageMASTERBR 
No they had once, now just kebab foreigners has this rights who borns in swedistan lands is white privilege that has money to study in white country. XD kkkkkkk
2018-09-21 04:53
#118
chrisJ | 
Finland Motori 
Yeah
2018-09-20 10:58
just dab on them
2018-09-20 10:59
agreed
2018-09-21 04:59
#130
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Brazil rageMASTERBR 
Use Brazil as your point. Higher taxes, benefits corruption, buying some rich companys to benefit then with lower increases on public banks, and 0 of public service, whatever in health or education. Never defending higher taxes, this just destroy the thinks, i hope u use Gerard Depardieu case, imigrate out of France for high taxes on Francois Holande Socialist governance taxing 75% the riches.
2018-09-21 04:49
#136
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Denmark KATTENxD 
well and here we have denmark with a pretty high tax(40% for the lowest and like 58 to the highest) rate and we are doing ohh just fine but i am also against high taxes so idk :((
2018-09-21 09:07
#161
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Brazil rageMASTERBR 
Kattenyour people is polite and educated and population at least 200 times lower, Brazil has 208 million people, against what 7 miliom of Denmark? U can invest thr taxes totally diferent, in big and bad polite countrys big taxes doesn't work. Hughes
2018-09-21 12:44
You pay 25k for a car that costs 15k in Germany
2018-09-21 21:59
#139
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Denmark LANGEw0w 
Harder punishment will often lead to more crime and violence. Lower taxes is hard, because its the only right way, but just say something about "Society will be more equal" - "Rich people don't need that much money" or smth.
2018-09-21 09:26
1. Death penalty for rape, murder and pedophilia. 2. Lower taxes because less inmates 3. Legalize weed and put some low tax on it 4. ??? 5. Profit
2018-09-21 09:35
why death penalty to pedophiles? it isnt even a crime
2018-09-21 09:43
Adults touching children is not a crime in finland?
2018-09-21 09:59
but thats not what pedophilia means
2018-09-21 10:00
Oh god please, you get the context.
2018-09-21 10:01
pedophilia = you think kids are sexy how can you give death penaylty to all pedos how can you know what people think in their heads
2018-09-21 10:08
-not lowering taxes -sweden choose one
2018-09-21 09:35
Make a constitution declaring yourself an independent state also saying that taxes should be lowered and guns are allowed now. Thank you for your time
2018-09-21 10:20
#172
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Europe loonek4 
well you should focus that high taxes on corps allow lower class to afford health care,books for their children etc.
2018-09-21 22:35
#173
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Europe xaxzera 
lowering taxes = increases inequality increased punishment = proven to be highly ineffective, should focus on rehabilitating people and helping them reintegrate back to society.
2018-09-21 22:40
Leftist policies irl. Higher taxes: People become spoilt, lazy, shameless and dependent on wealth redistribution. Cry all the time about their so-called "entitlements" instead of getting off their fat asses and earning things themselves. Softer punishments: No one gets the punishment they justify. Social standards of morality get undermined and sidelined in favour of whatever is expedient for the state. Unjustly favours criminals over victims. Rehabilitative justice is completely cucked. FTFY i hope you jump out in the middle of ur presentation and torpedo ur own side.
2018-10-02 08:58
Extra points if you add the word "Swedistan" and get expelled from your leftist education institution for intolerance.
2018-10-02 09:00
#177
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United States gtmaniacmda 
(I’m aware I am posting after the debate has already ended) It’s all relative, what am I working with? What are the tax rates now? What is being taxed? What are the punishments for crime? For which crimes are these punishments given?
2018-10-02 09:07
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