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Does Na'Vi need a change?
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Australia Australis 
What would be the solution to surpass Astralis? New IGL? Hobbit? Mental Coach?
2018-09-24 15:51
#1
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United Kingdom MainSlayer 
no
2018-09-24 15:52
+1
2018-09-24 17:05
#33
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Russia mnight 
+1
2018-09-24 17:16
+1
2018-09-24 20:05
#2
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Austria sometime2 
-Kane +Starix
2018-09-24 15:53
#3
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Czech Republic Bad_News_4_u 
And also -Edward +Hobbit
2018-09-24 15:53
and also -both of you lol
2018-09-24 17:05
#22
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United Kingdom de_bait 
-Edward when?
2018-09-24 17:06
Edward did fine at the major. If anything -BOT s1mple
2018-09-24 17:42
no
2018-09-24 17:21
they need a change when they are top 2 in the world LMAO
2018-09-24 15:54
yeah obv if they want to be #1
2018-09-24 17:01
#15
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Poland cs_mango 
If they don't change anything, they will be always top2.
2018-09-24 17:01
top 2 is not even that bad lmao
2018-09-24 17:02
#27
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Europe lalt 
Go to ask from simple if he likes being #2.
2018-09-24 17:09
see ya in hell germanians
2018-09-24 17:10
#32
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Russia mnight 
It's hugely simple's own fault. He never showed up during the finals. Edward though had way more impact. No change needed but strats and cohesion
2018-09-24 17:11
+1 i just explained simple is final choker in my last thread
2018-09-24 17:31
It's not that he didnt show up i think that astralis countered him pretty well that match
2018-09-24 19:42
#5
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Bulgaria Jaganci 
Ofc they dont
2018-09-24 15:55
#6
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United Kingdom ChrisFroome 
-edward + chopper
2018-09-24 15:55
#10
s1mple | 
Russia fnyke 
It would mean russian flag. Navi management wont do that. Russian player pool is closed for navi with 2 russians already on the roster
2018-09-24 16:02
#11
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United Kingdom ChrisFroome 
ah okay
2018-09-24 16:03
but when guardian was on the roster they were half russian half ukrainian idk maybe
2018-09-24 17:02
won't be russian flag officially, that would be CIS flag but hltv will show it as russian
2018-09-24 17:04
#47
s1mple | 
Russia fnyke 
I belive tournaments orgs go by the same rules as hltv. Tht is 3 players from the same country determine team flag. Though i remember some german team played under eu flag having 3 germans on lineup, so might be CIS for navi.
2018-09-24 17:55
#7
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Latvia Pinkyswear 
They don't need a change, just continue to play and the confidence will come.
2018-09-24 15:57
#8
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Italy m4atty09 
i think as players they don't need change but maybe a mental coach for handling pressure would be it , nobody showed up yesterday and yes astralis outplayed them but they also didn't play at their full potential. As players they are all great in their roles and changing might even fuck up teamplay in the long run imo .
2018-09-24 16:00
+1 if they choke in upcoming finals then maybe -edward and some good player they see fit
2018-09-24 16:01
#12
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Australia Australis 
+1 good solution
2018-09-24 16:59
#24
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Sweden Trkmag 
+1
2018-09-24 17:07
+1
2018-09-24 17:22
+1 THIS
2018-09-24 18:07
yeah edward is shit add anyone else from cis and navi will be better
2018-09-24 17:01
stfup Edward did great at finals
2018-09-24 17:23
0.88 rating LUL
2018-09-24 17:40
wtf are u saying 23/9/18 UkraineNatus Vincere (9) DenmarkAstralis (16) ovp 14 - 20 -6 0.92 23/9/18 UkraineNatus Vincere (6) DenmarkAstralis (16) nuke 13 - 15 -2 0.84 22/9/18 UkraineNatus Vincere (16) BrazilMIBR (5) d2 18 - 11 +7 1.30 22/9/18 UkraineNatus Vincere (16) BrazilMIBR (10) ovp 21 - 14 +7 1.40 20/9/18 UkraineNatus Vincere (16) GermanyBIG (6) nuke 20 - 14 +6 1.49 20/9/18 UkraineNatus Vincere (16) GermanyBIG (2) d2 15 - 6 +9 1.59 15/9/18 UkraineNatus Vincere (16) Swedenfnatic (9) mrg 18 - 15 +3 1.06 14/9/18 UkraineNatus Vincere (16) SwedenNiP (6) trn 14 - 11 +3 1.08
2018-09-24 18:04
#18
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Simple to rifle flam awp -ed +chopper
2018-09-24 17:03
#23
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Albania Mamluku 
honestly a professional psychologist would help them, they have all the right pieces to win a major, their core ( s1mple, electronic, flamie) is still young and already have played 4 different major finals ( imagine that the oldest from all of them is flamie who is 21) , and this storyline is not new to us, the astralis core used to be just like them, insane skill but chokers in the finals, they need to stay together , work a bit harder and maybe a bit of luck
2018-09-24 17:06
+1
2018-09-24 18:37
I dont think they need one,but if they want to go to a next level,they should maybe add someone like Hobbit. Also a mental coach would definetly help them.
2018-09-24 17:07
#52
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Russia D1ma_ 
+1 they really need a mental coach
2018-09-24 18:12
#28
ShahZaM | 
Russia cnd2mn 
No, but they need a good psychologist for Simple
2018-09-24 17:10
#31
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Ukraine extezy10 
will see on next tournaments. if they will playing good, don't need to change, major was pretty good for navi. but in final navi just get destroyed. ESL New York soon.
2018-09-24 17:10
#38
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Ukraine beaztoff 
-flamie +AWPer(Ramz1k/Jame) -Edward +bondik/COLDYY/sdy/Hobbit
2018-09-24 17:24
#39
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
I mean every time major final is played one team wins and the other loses and the losing team gets not the hate but threads like this but we are forgetting about ton of fcking teams which didn’t even make playoffs, let alone final. They are good to go, they have won finals before this year, just Astralis better. Respectfully, Proud Liquid Fan since Faceit Major.
2018-09-24 17:27
Nt faze fan since 1999
2018-09-24 17:31
#67
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
What? Wth is that brotha? Who is it? Dunno what you are talking about here 😏 Respectfully, Proud Liquid Fan since Faceit Major.
2018-09-24 23:53
1/8
2018-09-25 17:01
#40
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United Kingdom Xey 
-edward
2018-09-24 17:29
-Edward +someone with hands
2018-09-24 17:43
Mental coach for sure, cuz they were nervous as fuck in finals
2018-09-24 17:44
#53
Zeus | 
Russia D1ma_ 
+1
2018-09-24 18:13
#50
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Lithuania lighthair 
Navi players need to get benched so that the company can buy the whole astralis line up. That way they can easily beat everyone EZ
2018-09-24 18:09
#51
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Faroe Islands rationale 
Strats, team play and hard work. Nothing else. On individual level NaVi is as good as Astralis.
2018-09-24 18:11
Hahahahahaha who on Astralis is comparable to Edward
2018-09-24 19:47
#65
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Faroe Islands rationale 
Dunno why everyone pays attention to his stats. He's a good player. On Overpass he alone was the reason NaVi won two rounds.
2018-09-24 21:04
Aren’t stats a representation of wether or not someone is a good player. He isn’t a good support player either, constantly dies first.
2018-09-24 21:07
#54
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Ukraine justguy^ 
2 years later... -edward +bondik 4 years later -zeus +jr/sdy
2018-09-24 18:23
#55
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Brazil xpn :) 
- edward -zeus
2018-09-24 18:25
the thing is navi looked good but they. lag consistency. electronic is still to inexperienced and it would be nice to see a little bit more out of edward.
2018-09-24 18:29
All they need is a psychologist to help with the mental side of the game. They lost mentally, not tactically or technically.
2018-09-24 18:35
Ugin placed too much pressure on the players. no more comments from me on this topic.
2018-09-24 20:04
Get rid of Edward for God’s sake the guy is literal dead weight, can’t do anything positive in the server
2018-09-24 19:46
If zeus plays aim map for 10 hours per day That would be fix
2018-09-24 20:09
#68
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Australia Australis 
it would be also a good option
2018-09-25 01:46
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