#1
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Denmark danishwarrior 
22 SEP 2018
2018-09-25 04:56
#4
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United States burzeus 
just saw so shared
2018-09-25 04:57
s1mple and flamie in talks to join mibr POG just saw so shared
2018-09-25 05:05
#7
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United States burzeus 
cool thanks for informing
2018-09-25 05:07
They were in talks with SK tho
2018-09-25 06:15
technically they would join imt (mibr) org. just like stewie who never signed sk contract
2018-09-25 09:25
they would but you never see this "s1mple and flamie in talks to join mibr"
2018-09-25 15:34
Makes good sense, cadiaN was back in denmark a few weeks ago, maybe to talk with North
2018-09-26 11:17
#2
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Hungary Starwii 
i hope so MSL almost ruined so many careers with his leading he is shit and he can't accept it lives in delusion.
2018-09-25 04:56
just because he gay doesn’t mean he delusional nt... o wait nvm it does
2018-09-26 11:19
#3
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Switzerland Tyneiad 
It's a good move, not really the -niko +gade tho. Overall north will be better on the long term but will suffer on the short term until cadiaN manadgesto implement himself.
2018-09-25 04:56
#5
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United States burzeus 
msl to rogue? i wonder if this happens
2018-09-25 05:01
#8
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Switzerland Tyneiad 
Nah it would be terrible for Rogue and also a missed opportunity considering the number of rising talents in the NA scene atm. MSL is either going to coaching North or to a lower tier team. Rogue needs an IGL to replace cadiaN but they also need some serious firepower, only Sick & Rickeh are good enough to allow Rogue to be what they aspire to. I have a few roster moves in mind but it's up to them.
2018-09-25 05:10
#9
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Brazil Mentecapto 
Who's the best NA IGL right now? And anyone else with potential:?
2018-09-25 05:12
#12
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United States burzeus 
they could get n0thing he has tonnes of experience and could try igling
2018-09-25 05:32
#14
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Australia Hythrex 
n0thing has said himself that he hates IGL'ing
2018-09-25 05:46
#17
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Switzerland Tyneiad 
I would like him to do so but he fermly refused to be an IGL before, other wise he would be my second pick behind ptr.
2018-09-25 05:55
ptr😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂shit awper to igl 💯💯👌👌👌😂😂😂😂😂😂
2018-09-25 06:30
#24
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United States burzeus 
lol
2018-09-25 07:21
literally worst awper our shitty scene ever had
2018-09-25 07:25
#27
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United States burzeus 
not really, he was carrying dignitas so yea
2018-09-25 07:28
tier 5 fucking team
2018-09-25 07:29
#36
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Norway C9suso 
¨ptr is godlike
2018-09-25 12:05
against easy bots on priv server 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
2018-09-25 12:57
#102
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Norway C9suso 
no u
2018-10-19 11:58
No he was just super streaky. He's have these crazy performances vs EU teams where people were like "WHO TF IS THIS GUY", and then would go back to being super mediocre only a week later.
2018-09-26 11:23
#41
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Switzerland Tyneiad 
Name checkout. ptr is not shit, he a good AWPer for NA standards, he also has a lot of experience and could function very well in Rogue. Thats my opinion if you don't like it it's ok but stop using cancer emojis bro.
2018-09-25 12:12
ptr is not even top 7 awper in NA wtf bro 💯💯💯👌👌👌😂😂😂😂
2018-09-25 12:56
who are the 6 above him?
2018-09-26 10:43
Skadoodle Cerq Nifty Jdm (xd) Stewie Wardell Shahzam But I still think Ptr is decent.
2018-09-26 11:25
he indeed is. but the problem ptr has imo is lack of motivation and smoking too much. dude hits the bong during rankS lmao. his skill ceiling is definitely higher.
2018-09-26 11:34
shahzam jdm skadoodle nitr0 wardell nifty
2018-09-26 12:37
#15
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Switzerland Tyneiad 
Since it's Rogue and they already hired an European & an Aussie it's not to exclue they could hire another player from theses region. There is not much IGL in NA it's the weakness of this region imo. If either Hiko or vice don't want to IGL they should be replaced, and as for candidates as IGL excluding vice & Hiko in NA we have : ptr, food, SEMPHIS & adreN, those are the only one i could see do the job. Now internationally : Happy (Already taken apparently), Hobbit, yam, BARBARR, kioShiMa (Not sure he still wants to IGL), TENZKI (Same as kioShiMa), xelos. But since Happy is going to VITALITY, Hobbit to HellRaisers instead of DeadFox, and im not sure about kioShiMa & TENZKI i would say. ptr > yam > food > BARBARR > xelos.
2018-09-25 05:46
#20
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Brazil Mentecapto 
Thanks for the answer. And yea, NA seems to be lacking in the IGL field, all the ones you mentioned never made any impact on the scene, if I'm not mistaken. I wish NA had an IGL like gla1ve, just imagine a superstar NA team with him :( And I'll follow dexter, never heard of him before. Let's hope more players like gla1ve and Zeus show up around the world.
2018-09-25 06:19
#37
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Switzerland Tyneiad 
I agree with you but before gla1ve joined Astralis only serious users knew him, a very good soldiers cannot win wars with shit weapon and a very good IGL cannot achieve something with mediocre player especially in a highly competitiv scene as the European one. gla1ve is next level type of IGL atm, a rare gem.
2018-09-25 12:07
If you are going to suggest food to IGL, why not try the actual NA MDL IGLs in the region. Theres djay, paperboy, ben, vSa (who has pro league experience). Their ideas + mCe's great ideas will make them very good tactically.
2018-09-25 09:31
#38
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Switzerland Tyneiad 
I appreciate the knowledge you possess but i wouldn't goive a shot to any of theses guys considering how they play, maybe vSa but i wasn't sure he was leading still. food is good at leading on top of having a great level individually and imo it's one thing many IGl lacks or sacrifice ( wich is a mistake ).
2018-09-25 12:10
What makes you think food is good at leading? It's his first time afaik and it seems like hes more carried by very skilled fraggers rather than having good tactics. Last sentence makes me think you care more about fragging than leading which has its place. People make the mistake of thinking there is no place for low fragging ingame leaders. There is.
2018-09-25 23:05
#68
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Switzerland Tyneiad 
food is the one carrying them bro, while being the IGL, even if it's his first time the actual Gorilla Gang roster is looking super promising to me. When i wtached plays ofc it wasn't some gob b masterfull executes, but let's say it was simple & effective and i don't ask more. No absolutly not what i think, i think there is a balance and being either too fraggy or too focused on leading is a bad thing, it's all about balance. A condition that food exells in. vSa is more on the IGLing style but balanced and the player you named have beyond terrible rating in T7 NA, what if the team get's good ? At a higher level theses guys would no doubt hard bottom frag every single match, and i don't think anyone of them is seangares reincarnated.
2018-09-26 01:39
Then they can get replaced. You are thinking long term, I'm thinking short term. The players suggested probably wont' last a long time but they will last enough until a better replacement is available. food is also tier 7 not sure what your point is. The problem is food is not balanced. He's all fragging and no leading. The tactics do not exist. paperboy, ben, djay all would frag way better than you think they would because they are smart players, not brute force players like food. Smart players, even if they have a lower rating vs lower tier opposition, won't suffer as much of a hit at higher tiers than players who get their rating based off of simply having more skill. The brute force players end up getting battered by people who are not only more skilled than them but smarter and wiser than they are. I wish real NA ingame leaders got more chances than these pug IGLs just because they have good stats
2018-09-26 02:50
#71
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Switzerland Tyneiad 
Thing there is better replacement, the weakness of the NA scene is the lack of IGL, better think long term and secure of the best you can have right from the get go, it will spare the trouble of changing the captain and will establish a better alchemy. food is not all fragging, saw it from his matches to the interviews so fra, that's a bit condensending from you bro. food is good in T7 so he can go higher wich is not the case for any of the trash players you mentionned, having a 0.84 rating at this level is beyond being bad and you know it. that's why you never saw them join any good team, it's the opposite for food. Now i can tell you all the guys you mentionned would be terrible no matter how you seem to like them, this isn't logical nor it's likeable i fermly disagree. You wish yeah, many had a shot before and there is none thta left a good impression, guess why ?
2018-09-26 03:27
Many of them did? Where? I can only recall Slemmy and its a big drastic jump to go from MDL to pro league, and he did well for what he had. EDIT: You are probably right on that first paragraph but I feel like it's trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. It's like the MIBR situation, kicking a player that was dedicated to the role for a more skilled player that had no intention of doing it. It just doesn't work imo. I rather have a TACO/STYKO playing the support role rather than a Stewie/tarik, and if a better support player comes along, I can replace them as I see fit.
2018-09-26 10:45
#79
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Switzerland Tyneiad 
Slemmy was absolute trash and kicked in two month, same shit as FNS. I agree with you on the edit, but in MIBR it's more like everyone does a bit of support instead of dedicating one player to it i feel like.
2018-09-26 11:15
FNS was a good fuckin ingame leader in a team of massive egotists and he got unfairly kicked. They didn't even give him the time of day and now look, they're fucking garbage. Well guess what C9, go fuck yourselves. Hope you go hungry. retardimatic can go retire for all i care, hes overrated anyway
2018-09-26 11:17
#87
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Switzerland Tyneiad 
Both did bad, FNS & the team taht didn't even gave him the time to put his system in place. autimatic is really good, tbh i only have respect for him.
2018-09-26 11:20
You will find even gla1ve and FalleN are dogshit if their team doesn't listen to them or give them the time of day. Oddly enough, this phenomenon of ignoring your ingame leader seems to only occur in NA. Oddly enough, NA is also the worse region out of all of the regions. Go figure?
2018-09-26 11:21
#91
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Switzerland Tyneiad 
It woudl certainly make them worse, but they would still be very okay individually bro. NA is not the worse trust me nigga im french you even imagine the shit here.
2018-09-26 11:23
#72
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Switzerland Tyneiad 
If your loved mCe is a coach it's not for nothing, it's meant to have the best of him without having his low skill inder the firepower, 3 years that he played at low level, three years of void. he's a good coach and he should stay as is.
2018-09-26 03:31
mCe is a coach because the NA scene is full of retards? Lets not pretend now that all of the moves NA CS made were good and well thought out. Was there a good reason that daps and FNS were in low tier teams while C9 and Liquid let n0thing and Hiko waste their time giving them no T side at all and fragging like garbage at the same time? mCe would do well on Splyce. He would take the team to a higher level (as a player)
2018-09-26 10:41
#76
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Switzerland Tyneiad 
What the fuck are tyou saying, never said that, just said that at 27 if you are playing for more than 3 years in T7 having a 0.82 rating you should not get a shot at being captain of Rogue & that's why he is the coach and not a player. FNS is really bad, daps on the other hand is good but he played in many capable teams before, also he's way better than any of the guys you mentionned. By Splyce u mean the boxr team ? the one suposed to be the new envy ? Even if this team wasn't shit already i wouldn't give him a shot a it, i don't understand why you have so much passion about that player, is he a familly member lol?
2018-09-26 11:10
daps only suddenly became a good fragger to people when he got CeRq and NRG started seeing success. Before CeRq, daps was a dog shit fragger just like FNS. It's hindsight garbage. He was called a paycheck stealer by the community and he had so little motivation he tried to go into coaching. At the same time, during CLG's summer 2017 run, FNS was being hailed as the shit and everyone was calling him underrated. Not only you wouldnt give mCe or other good IGLs a chance at leading the team, the players themselves on Splyce wouldn't either anyway, so it doesn't matter. That's fine though, NA CS will remain forever dogshit until the mindset changes
2018-09-26 11:13
#83
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Switzerland Tyneiad 
Yeah indeed, but it is working so i won't complain, never complained about pronax, ex6 or golden even if they are low fraggers it works so it's ok. Yeah everyone was hyping him up for no reason, i always said he wouldn't do shit in C9, and yet again i was right. They already tried many times dude, taht's why they know i doesn't work, you need a balanced IGl and it's hard to find even more so in NA.
2018-09-26 11:18
Point to me the up and coming balanced fragging IGLs that EU is claimed to have so I can watch their demos.
2018-09-26 11:20
#88
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Switzerland Tyneiad 
I'll finish eating and doing some shit and i'll give you a detailed ranked list.
2018-09-26 11:21
ty
2018-09-26 11:21
#92
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Switzerland Tyneiad 
np
2018-09-26 11:23
#95
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Switzerland Tyneiad 
It will be ready this evening, i still have some class later in the day.
2018-09-26 11:25
#33
Australia DubL 
semphis is apparently going to be apart of the rumoured envyus lineup with jdm
2018-09-25 09:36
#39
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Switzerland Tyneiad 
Yeah saw that, but beetween joining a shit lineup like the new nV & Rogue the choice is not hard, at least for me.
2018-09-25 12:10
#45
Australia DubL 
if this rumoured lineup has been planned for a while hes most likely already committed to it and who knows, maybe rogue have someone else in mind already also, pretty sure envyus will have a better salary than what rogue provide so for however long he lasts in that team it wont be a complete loss
2018-09-25 12:18
#46
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Switzerland Tyneiad 
Yeah, typical american org that pay shit players too much imo. Rogue should either get : ptr > yam > food > BARBARR > xelos.
2018-09-25 12:20
#18
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Switzerland Tyneiad 
A wild pick would be Grayhound's IGL that so far blowed my mind, his name is dexter, he's having insane perf while being the IGL of the best team in Oceania / Asia. hltv.org/stats/players/9115/dexter
2018-09-25 05:57
#11
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United States burzeus 
maybe seized could igl them
2018-09-25 05:13
#16
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Switzerland Tyneiad 
His english is not good enough and IGLing destroyed his performances so hard i wouldn't give him a shot. gyazo.com/b5242ba0e4de1c5b770f882478f53a.. This should show you how far he has fallen. He actually performed a 0.87 rating (1.0) & 0.94 (2.0) for the past two years, this is beyond terrible for such a guy in such a low tier, and all of this in his mother tongue. It's a no for me tbh.
2018-09-25 05:54
#25
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United States burzeus 
north is tier 3 they could use a tier 4 igl
2018-09-25 07:22
#34
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Switzerland Tyneiad 
You mean Rogue ? I don't take the actual status for granted, and when i do rosters modifications it's always with the idea in mind that they want to become better.
2018-09-25 12:03
MSL is light years better then Cadian
2018-09-25 07:31
#35
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Switzerland Tyneiad 
I really don't agree. cadiaN is an actual AWPer and he's also doing way better in terms of fragging, and for the strats MSL strength is his system, him becoming coach & letting cadiaN be captain would be a serious upgrade.
2018-09-25 12:05
Cadian is a better fragger, I can agree, but MSL is 2 tiers higher in IGLing MSL out strated Astralis twice, not many teams have been able to do that
2018-09-25 12:34
#50
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Switzerland Tyneiad 
I agree with that but it's mainly due to preparation not actual calls in the game, even tho i obviously had some. That's why i want him to stay in North as a coach, he has a great mindset and tactical mind.
2018-09-25 12:35
A good IGL is studying the opponent, MSL is also really good at setting his teammates up.
2018-09-25 12:44
#53
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Switzerland Tyneiad 
Indeed, but even in taking more space as an AWPer like he did and doing the opposite of what he did all this time he North he won a tournament, if taht doesn't convice you idk what does. All of the things that made him positive in North can still be used if he's a coach.
2018-09-25 12:47
#22
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Denmark Xipingu 
Finally this inconsistent bald dude gets booted. Thnx North.
2018-09-25 06:35
kinda ironic that he sucks for 3 years then he start play good and get an mvp + tournament and then get benched
2018-09-25 06:59
#42
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France ManuelFerrara 
so true rofl
2018-09-25 12:15
#48
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United Kingdom Johal 
north dont want to be good, thats why
2018-09-25 12:22
nu
2018-09-25 07:33
#40
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Denmark TurboHenning 
OLD NEWS
2018-09-25 12:11
dont try to revive your dead thread
2018-09-25 23:26
#67
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Denmark Doctor_Viktor 
Not trying to, simply just showing that he was pretty late
2018-09-25 23:28
wow no way
2018-09-25 12:17
Fnatic release Pronax, Dennis signed. Just saw, so shared
2018-09-25 12:40
#63
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United States burzeus 
cool thanks for sharing
2018-09-25 18:41
#61
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France Dov 
Cool for cadian, was always underrated
2018-09-25 15:35
#62
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France Dov 
dbltap.com/posts/6179824-sources-envy-se.. Wtf are those news, haven't seen them on hltv
2018-09-25 15:36
#69
k0nfig | 
Denmark nalleB 
What'd you mean by HLTV? Articles? They rarely ever deal with rumors. On the forum? No-one really cares about the tier2 NA scene.
2018-09-26 02:05
#64
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Czech Republic Whitezz 
I believe cadian is t1 igl and he has cool style like fallen If -msl happens i am gonna be their fan
2018-09-25 18:43
#77
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Israel Its_Me_Pho 
his face is so fucking annoying
2018-09-26 11:11
This site is garbage, tried watching a video interview on phone, video has 1.20 min, got 5 ads -. -
2018-09-26 11:18
#97
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France rezpecful 
aids*
2018-09-26 11:28
#85
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Europe Instabait 
Would be nice t see him in North ... Maybe also -aizy + Juliano
2018-09-26 11:19
didn't MSL just won dreamhack against astralis?
2018-09-26 11:28
#98
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France rezpecful 
Top 6 team in the world wants to get Cadian as their IGL but according to some pleb he sucks cus he lost aim map vs juliano
2018-09-26 11:29
well, they have a very good point...
2018-09-26 12:38
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