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TACO STATS
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Brazil shakzera 
0.89 KDA until ESL. After ESL 0.95, the same KDA that Zeus has. In the top 9 hltv, only karrigan has a lower KDA (0.90). Furthermore, in the ESL he finished with 80/94 and 61 ADR. Why ppl still defends him? lmao Now that faze has Niko as IGL and mibr is good, Liquid is going to fall in hltv and can forget most of the championships, since Twistzz can't repeat this performance always.
2018-10-01 03:16
#1
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Brazil FrizoR 
stats aren't everything /close
2018-10-01 03:17
#8
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Brazil shakzera 
Always with this thing, but the true is that he sucks. Even he said this in his twitter right now.
2018-10-01 03:21
#28
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Brazil VFI 
yeah thats why after taco left sk was shit for 4 months and after taco joined tl they became top 3
2018-10-01 03:44
#34
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Brazil shakzera 
Brazilian's guys playing CS in english, what did u expect? And Liquid was top 5 in March, before Taco, so, refuted.
2018-10-01 03:49
#60
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Indonesia linekerrr 
but he said they're now top 3, not top 5.
2018-10-01 04:33
I mean, steel was never a good fit for liquid anyway. any player who wanted to play the bitch role would have made the team better
2018-10-01 05:46
#84
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Brazil shakzera 
Top 3 and top 5 are the same shit : not the top 1.
2018-10-01 19:09
#111
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Europe z10201z 
He is the only Brazilian that plays for a top 3 team. Actually, I believe that he is the Brazilian that has played longer for teams in the top 3. Is Taco the best Brazilian to touch the game? According to the ranks, probably yes.
2018-10-02 12:06
You are so biased and stupid, tell me the first reason that taco was kicked, was it because they were winning and being a top team? xD They became worse while they still had taco on the team you monkey. Reason he is on liquid is because their coach is zews. Zews sold them some bullcrap story that they will benefit from having taco and they trusted him.
2018-10-01 04:38
TACO told cold that if they didn’t win WESG He would leave and they lost
2018-10-01 04:53
no it's because they had steel who was a dogshit brazillian so they decided to replace him with a taco, an only semi-shit brazillian
2018-10-01 04:53
If you think taco was the primary problem in liquid's grand final run then you are utterly clueless about this game.
2018-10-01 03:18
He's just jookieng hehe)))
2018-10-01 03:19
+a lot It was the fault of NAF not showing up whatsoever and nitr0 whiffing more awp shots than anyone could count, they really need a proper awper on that team or just play full rifles, nitr0 on the awp is not working... It's the entire reason they lost ct on D2 so badly, his whiffs gave mouz A site for free every time
2018-10-01 03:21
#41
Brazil FLXG 
nitr0 has been whiffing awp shot for weeks now... sad cus he's a great player
2018-10-01 03:53
NAF AWP nitr0 rifle ez top1
2018-10-02 12:52
#9
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Brazil shakzera 
Just the true.
2018-10-01 03:22
idk , taco is just bad
2018-10-01 03:18
#14
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Brazil shakzera 
gj
2018-10-01 03:24
#5
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France Vix_NBK_FanBoy 
ya cuse taco needs to frag out in a supportive role...while he has Twistzz naf and elige on his team ya bro we need every team like faze bro 4 stars and igl that plays loose style
2018-10-01 03:20
#11
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Brazil shakzera 
wtf Every support in the top 9 has better stats than him, lmao, ppl always with these apologies.
2018-10-01 03:23
ok? somone has to be the lowest and its not his fault taht his teams lose, he is the support/role player hes there to help the stars not frag, his stats dont matter
2018-10-01 03:25
#25
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Brazil shakzera 
how it's not his fault? Liquid is playing very well and he has one of the worst KDA in the top 9. Furthermore, does support players not have ct side? He's not a ''baiter'' anymore.
2018-10-01 03:34
cuse he isnt the star getting 20 less kills and doing nothing every map hes the support getting equal numbers to the other teammates
2018-10-01 04:16
#54
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Brazil shakzera 
It's apologies bro, just accept. When SK was winning everything, every player aside him was playing very well, then they stopped, and Taco stayed the same, so they 'kicked him out,' now Liquid was good when everyone was bad, and he still was with shitty stats. He is not the IGL and the support, he's just the support, don't think that just cuz someone is a support he has the right to have shitty stats like this. 'He' only has this right if he's the support and the IGL.
2018-10-01 04:21
no, there is a reason that the SK team fell off so hard after they kicked him, it showed how much he did for them. you have no idea about cs if you think him putting up bad numbers matters. if he got like 26 kills in a BO3 then ya thats something that cant happen more than once.
2018-10-01 04:23
#57
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Brazil shakzera 
SK was bad with him, It's not 'oh we kicked him then we became so bad'. After this, Taco wanted to show everyone that he's good, lmao, he's not doing this, and If u think that he's doing well, go see his twitter, cuz he said that 2018 is being rough for him.
2018-10-01 04:26
no shit its been hard on his stats but hes never put amazing stats up
2018-10-01 04:28
For a support he sure does seem to be the last guy alive a lot and you want clutch players in the end. Not Taco. Is he supporting by watching them run out and fight? Like Moral support? Cheering them on? Lets him support liquid from the stands and find a real 5th.
2018-10-01 04:41
hes last alive cuse he is an anchor on sites, do you not fucking know that? do you even watch the games
2018-10-01 04:44
Basing everything off stats OMEGALUL
2018-10-01 03:20
#10
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Germany volt =D 
He did a lot of key frags. Im not a fan but if you think he's the problem then you're disillusioned.
2018-10-01 03:22
#12
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Brazil shakzera 
I'm talking about the general.
2018-10-01 03:24
#16
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Germany volt =D 
I haven't watch enough LULquid games recently to comment on that. This event tho he did everything right.
2018-10-01 03:25
do you know what disillusioned means you retarded autist?
2018-10-01 04:55
dude shut up, you are one of the ppl that wanted him out of fallen's team, and now that he is out and your team has gone from bad to worse, you still attacking taco hoping to gain what from it ? thats what i call a super dedicated hater.
2018-10-01 03:24
#17
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Brazil shakzera 
Well, at the start mibr was bad cuz language is too important and they had problems with this. But right now? Mibr is good, they were only team that had chances to beat astralis, got 2 in the Blast and 3-4 in the major. lul gj fanboy
2018-10-01 03:27
this is liquid form since taco joined gyazo.com/431087b3336af16904ad225880a745.. this is is madeinamerica form since they added stewie gyazo.com/f2eb67134bf017a25fbab400dab25d.. this is why they are 3 in the world, and mibr is 4. mibr is weak, and they will never win a t1 tournament again, just accept that.
2018-10-01 03:40
#29
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Brazil shakzera 
Firstly, every team was in bad times when Liquid was good, now things are changing and about Mibr I alreay put everything in the reply: ''Well, at the start mibr was bad cuz language is too important'' And If u truly think that Mibr is weak RIGHT NOW, I don't need to respond u anymore, lmao, the only team that Astralis played real serious, and It's Dupreeh that said.
2018-10-01 03:45
you dont think that taco also had to adapt ? or are the excuses only valid when it comes to justify your team failure ?
2018-10-01 03:47
#37
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Brazil shakzera 
How many months does he needs? Want to give him a year? It's very different 3 players changing the way they talk and only one.
2018-10-01 03:51
ohhhh poor fallen, fer and coldzera, they dont know how to talk english, they still learning hahahaha im in doubt if you are naive or just another idiot.
2018-10-01 03:55
#47
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Brazil shakzera 
wtf this was what they said, It's not me little kid. Stew and fallen said that the communication was too caotic, and they even put Tarik after this, changed two players. btw cold english still sucks, but at least it's understable.
2018-10-01 04:02
he didnt need to do much in the 2 maps they won, and he was the only one who stepped up to help twistz in the last 2 critical maps. So I fully disagree hltv.org/stats/matches/mapstatsid/74523/.. hltv.org/stats/matches/mapstatsid/74525/..
2018-10-01 03:28
#22
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Brazil shakzera 
hltv.org/stats/matches/mapstatsid/74523/.. 65.5 ADR. This is to me is like Sergio Ramos. btw, I'm talking about the general
2018-10-01 03:32
and yet the third highest overall rating and KAST rating. Means he plays very intelligently but whatever in general Liquid has a big problem and it has nothing to do with taco
2018-10-01 03:35
Liquid was top 10 before taco with taco they're now top 3 /closed
2018-10-01 03:28
#20
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Brazil shakzera 
cuz every team aside astralis was bad lmao now this is going to change
2018-10-01 03:30
#21
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Bangladesh DisableJ 
Liquid won 1 tournament when steelega was with em
2018-10-01 03:31
Wrong, retard. They had steel, another BOT, and were top2
2018-10-01 03:33
#24
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Sweden B0Besketit 
very sad
2018-10-01 03:33
he plays support role so it's fine. look at mibr, all fraggers and so dogshit lol.
2018-10-01 03:46
#33
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Brazil k1mkeid 
5 highlight players and a shitty gameplay..
2018-10-01 03:48
yep, every team needs support. the reason liq lost is because naf played like shit and elige was sub-par.
2018-10-01 03:49
#36
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Brazil k1mkeid 
yeah, i saw it.. naf left them -1.. so sad that happen, really like to see liquid suceed
2018-10-01 03:50
same here. made bank on this game from betting on mouz, but feelsbad for liquid. they choked, but they will come back stronger (no msl joke intended)
2018-10-01 03:51
#40
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Brazil k1mkeid 
hahah hope so, mate
2018-10-01 03:53
#39
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Brazil shakzera 
I agree that he was not the problem this time, but don't change the fact that in all his career he had shit stats and ppl still defends him.
2018-10-01 03:52
well he is a shit fragger, but he brings value to the team.
2018-10-01 03:55
#48
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Brazil shakzera 
I don't agree. I think that every pro player can do the same role. Look at astralis, the probably the strongest team ever and everyone has good stats and plays good.
2018-10-01 04:04
Stop making up these support roles for the crappers. Ever watch a game? Everyone buys full nades and uses them.
2018-10-01 04:51
+1
2018-10-01 05:54
Its not about the utility
2018-10-02 12:00
#31
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Brazil k1mkeid 
TACO plays the most ungrateful role of CS.. he always talk about it, that anyone that uses the argument of his stats now shit about CS and how it works.. that's why i am his fan, not because of he's a hightlight player (and he's not a highlight player), just because he has the balls to take the role that anyone doesn't have balls to pick up.. you just now shit about his role and show it in this thread, nothing at all
2018-10-01 03:46
#44
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Brazil shakzera 
It's not like this anymore little kid, Taco was playing that shit role with SK, and that time everyone aside him was playing too good, so It worked, but they even changed this in Mibr. And in Liquid he's just the support, and even like this, he one of the worst stats in the top 9 and the others team also have a support player. Look at this twitter right now, he said that 2018 is being rough for him.
2018-10-01 03:55
But if you look at the BO5, TACO went quite in the maps Liquid dominated, it's fine, but the maps were they struggled, he was on the top of the leaderboard. (Mirage,Dust2) You can't mind him for this loss, sure he can play better but when its went down TACO was there for the team and played solid
2018-10-01 04:50
You just can't accept, that TACO never was the problem do you?
2018-10-02 12:15
TACO made Liquid. Look at mibr without TACO...tier 4 team and never win tournament LOL
2018-10-01 03:55
#46
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Brazil shakzera 
Liquid, march 2018, without Taco was at top 5. They won the cs_summit and got second in ESL: One.
2018-10-01 03:59
Liquid with Taco is top3, cs_summit who cares? tier 5 event irrelevant
2018-10-01 04:08
#51
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Brazil shakzera 
At least is a win, what did liquid win with taco? lul Top 3 and top 5 are the same shit : not the top 1.
2018-10-01 04:13
and Summit's real mvp was Naf not fucking Taco aylmao.
2018-10-01 04:51
TACO is a shit player bro
2018-10-01 04:09
#52
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Brazil shakzera 
high IQ
2018-10-01 04:13
when zeus playing bad everybody say he is a BOT, but when TACO playing bad everybody not blame him. WTF?
2018-10-01 04:25
yeah , and zeus is the IGL.. TACO IS A FUCKING BOT
2018-10-01 05:55
Taco's effect on Twistzz is tremendous
2018-10-01 04:27
if u people really think adding Taco was improvement? just kill yourselves. real thing was Naf. when he joined Liquid, Liquid doing good so far, when he plays shit they lose like a retards.
2018-10-01 04:50
Btw - Taco + Auti when?
2018-10-01 04:51
+10
2018-10-01 04:53
If this happens I'd be a liquid fan. I only like C9 because of him.
2018-10-01 05:54
taco always unstable af, throwing away rounds, missing easy kills. Just terrible...
2018-10-01 05:43
he so lucky can play in SK
2018-10-01 07:04
you forgot to mention that he is extremely ugly and has a redhead girlfriend sg this guy can only have a pact with the devil
2018-10-02 12:17
#75
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Canada Surzz 
get a life.
2018-10-01 05:48
His T-side good. CT is fucking garbage.
2018-10-01 05:53
you are clearly a silver the man who lost liquid the match today is nitro. taco is trash, but he makes other players very confortable in the maps he has way more value than nitro. even elige chokes more than taco, taco plays at the same level always, elige and nitro played great in groupstage etc, today on the crucial moments they made bad decisions or missed ez shots.
2018-10-01 07:11
#85
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Brazil shakzera 
Actually, I've never played at silver, when I started, already got gold. btw I'm talking in the general. And in Liquid there's nothing about making others confortable, his role It's support and that's it.
2018-10-01 19:10
yeah, but believe me, not trying to be a dick, but I play cs since 1.5 I'm 26 yo, believe me, players like taco has value in a team like this a lot 1. choke issues, taco already won a lot and wont choke 2. patient and not losing control, people get mad af, liquid players had personal issues with a lot of people in the pass 3. support is underated, taco is a god in giving info, reading rotations and nade usage, we could see mouz having a lack of consistency after kicking their support player to get a superstar so I dont see kicking taco to get another player making the team better and nitro has a choke history to a lottt of matches so far, he was a key guy in every choke liquid had so far, he play in a certain level the whole tournment, but when the team needs the most, he becomes 20x worse, cant read the game anymore, cant cluthc, cant hit shots, etc! if a support player with good humor and better aim than taco apears, then I agree -TACO +that guy, but still, to me this team will never be consistent with nitro, just got this conclusion yesterday
2018-10-02 11:42
#82
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Kazakhstan dc7 
you're an actual idiot if it was bo3 liquid wouldve actually already won, mousesports won the last 2 maps in a bo5 do you know how draining even just 4 maps in a row is you can tell how flat twistzz was on the 5th map from his score, already went huge on the first 4 probably had RSI by the 5th map
2018-10-01 07:32
#87
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Brazil shakzera 
I'm talking in the general your dumb. Taco stats has always been shitty and ppl still defends him, If it was zeus or karrigan they would call them bots.
2018-10-01 19:11
#90
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Indonesia linekerrr 
Karrigan and zeus are called bots because the preconception of people here towards them. karrigan cant call t side (as of recently at the major [recency bias]), and that historically with the tsm/ast core he brought his choking habit. with zeus, the preconception is that zeus' strat is only :s1, elec go kill. in addition to karrigan and zeus' poor fragging. So completely different here. At least that's my opinion
2018-10-02 05:01
#95
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Denmark oskarsports 
if it would be a bo3 it would be completely different maps.
2018-10-02 05:14
you know that you need a player who is willing to support the star firing power? 5 big players is trash will never work he does his job with in team and they are actually better with him.
2018-10-01 07:39
#88
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Brazil shakzera 
Ok, now go teach this do Astralis. This thing that one being a bot It's not true, u can only be a bot if u're the IGL and the support.
2018-10-01 19:13
salty mibr, no taco no major. he is a support player, got baited by baitzera everytime for a quick kill.
2018-10-01 19:11
+1 Finally someone with a brain. Stats dont matter but when you can't kill more than one while holding you are bad.
2018-10-02 01:20
#92
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Brazil I_Hate_North 
If you think that's easy go play instead of him, silver 0,5
2018-10-02 05:07
I'm not the pro am i? Typical logic. So only pros have the right to express an opinion? Taco is trash. And he is not even entrying on liquid, he plays more of a lurker on t sides and still sucks.
2018-10-02 23:23
nitr0 is the real problem :(
2018-10-02 05:04
hahahah gob b real too
2018-10-02 05:09
not really, when you are a t2 team you are happy about becoming legends in a major and saving that ez $$$
2018-10-02 05:20
damn u are 1000% right thank u
2018-10-02 05:23
but the thing is trolling i knew gob b was gud i was just trolling
2018-10-02 05:24
oky
2018-10-02 05:24
u had to troll me back man pls
2018-10-02 05:29
nt prokda
2018-10-02 05:29
germans always strong never give up. support u for stability in old continent. be a rock
2018-10-02 05:31
U know what i think Taco is the solution. U put him on ct side anywhere he gets 1-2 kills no excuse no ambition and Fallen knew that... I could go on why Taco is very good on Liquid but i wont, If u let Taco go to an european Team ur fucked
2018-10-02 05:12
Lol, if you look at this last final, TACO played solid, despite being totally off in inferno. But he was always sucked in this map, even in SK. The real problem was NAF having a day off and nitro playing badly. Tbh, someone like Nifty would make Liquid a lot better, since he can be a good awper and is an average igl.
2018-10-02 05:21
OMEGALUL Nifty most overrated player of all time He's way worse than nitr0 hltv.org/stats/players/compare/7687/nitr..
2018-10-02 11:49
you never learn? stats don't mean shit for players like taco, he is incredible support players, look what happened to mibr after he left, they got rekt 24/7 look what happened to liquid after he joined, they became tier 1 team
2018-10-02 11:51
..... mibr got rekt 24/7 when he was in the team, thats why they kicked him and liquid already was T1 before he joined and yes, stats dont tell everything. but they dont tell nothing. THERE IS NO ROLE WHICH LEADS TO CONSISTENTLY 0. RATINGS
2018-10-02 11:59
Idc about taco no more. No Liquid player besides Twistzz and maybe Elige will have a better future. I don't think the other players have that fire. Twistzz should leave as fast as possible.
2018-10-02 12:02
#114
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Finland Alko^ 
mibr top6-8
2018-10-02 12:48
#115
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United States Trump2020KAG 
The same argument. BUT HE IS SUPPORT. bottom line is if u frag below ur igl 95% of the time u don’t deserve to be on a tier1 team. Imagine how good liquid would be with a awper.
2018-10-02 12:51
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