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Would this be an upgrade or a downgrade? /Discuss
2018-10-04 07:07
Downgrade even if ska is mostly a bot.
2018-10-04 07:09
#41
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Myanmar Lemo2K 
slowly -c9 +fnatic
2018-10-04 19:18
downgrade and flusha probably doesnt want to play with draken
2018-10-04 07:10
#3
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United States mibr_need_taco 
downgrade cloud 9 should fix themselves, get some results and then convince wardell to join them.
2018-10-04 07:13
#19
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Brunei z1onastya 
as much as i love shouting "SKADADDDY" everytime he gets a 3k,i think that its best if he retires idk but -ska +wardell sounds good
2018-10-04 08:54
So never?
2018-10-04 19:44
#28
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Finland toimistabil 
why would they want wardell? :o
2018-10-04 18:20
wardell is proving himself as a top awper in NA therefore he is a good option for c9
2018-10-04 18:21
#31
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Finland kyymeister 
have you seen how good that guy is?
2018-10-04 18:21
He is god
2018-10-04 22:22
#62
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Finland toimistabil 
looks pretty average to me.
2018-10-05 00:12
implying wardell would want to join a worse team why would he join a team that is going to go out last place at the next major and not qualify for any other tournaments when he can stay on a team that can't make the major but can actually qualify for other tournaments an potentially win some (dreamhacks most likely)? If he wants more money he's better off staying with ghost and getting WESG money
2018-10-04 22:25
Can you fucking read
2018-10-05 07:23
#4
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Spain JasonRacism 
Upgrade individual skill wise
2018-10-04 07:13
anybody for ska is upgrade even pasha
2018-10-04 07:15
#64
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Finland toimistabil 
pasza > draken >= ska
2018-10-05 00:13
#65
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Finland toimistabil 
But draken seems toxic af so prolly ska > draken
2018-10-05 00:13
Downgrade, if draken joined then they would have to play in eu qualifiers making it much harder for them.
2018-10-04 07:15
#17
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United States PlusOne 
NA org living in NA so no
2018-10-04 08:50
Optic had to play EU tournaments when they were located in NA. Newfag spotted.
2018-10-04 08:53
#21
f0rest | 
United States PlusOne 
Optic had to play in NA qualifiers because they lived in NA. Why do you think Renegades play NA qualifiers and not Oceanic qualifiers. Dumbass spotted hltv.org/events/3708/esl-one-cologne-201..
2018-10-04 18:12
Optic played 1EPL season (or half a season) from EU in NA
2018-10-04 21:58
Wasnt that because the squad that started was from NA and then they changed to DK lineup? Not sure, but that could be the case..
2018-10-04 22:00
Yes, it was when they picked up k0nfig and cajunb. EPL S6, just checked it.
2018-10-04 22:01
#59
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United States PlusOne 
That's exactly my point. All qualifiers except for majors are played in the region your team lives in not the majority of nationality.
2018-10-04 22:21
majority eu team so yes
2018-10-04 18:07
#23
f0rest | 
United States PlusOne 
2018-10-04 18:12
k
2018-10-04 18:18
#34
f0rest | 
United States PlusOne 
? Reply needs to have actual content
2018-10-04 18:34
0iq?
2018-10-04 18:19
yes
2018-10-04 18:20
#33
f0rest | 
United States PlusOne 
+1
2018-10-04 18:24
wrong
2018-10-04 19:44
#7
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United States (Fr0st) 
Downgrade. Rush and Autimatic should just leave if they make that move.
2018-10-04 07:22
#35
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Spain JasonRacism 
Not like RUSH can do any better with his form ever since Tarik left ...
2018-10-04 18:36
I honestly don't know why everyones been like "-ska +someone else" what I think is -Rush +Freakazoid/Ethan/Sick or such. When I watch C9 (pretty much all possible matches) he fails so hard at entrying especially on lan..
2018-10-05 00:19
#71
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Spain JasonRacism 
+1
2018-10-05 07:20
Draken replace flusha back to fnatic Fnatic is baiting us
2018-10-04 07:23
#9
kRYSTAL | 
Canada aigisK 
2018-10-04 07:31
#10
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Israel unsolid 
Upgrade for sure. If draken is getting motivated with flusha and golden
2018-10-04 08:22
#11
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Sweden plikz 
ska and draken are the 2 worst awpers
2018-10-04 08:25
Nice bait, come back when you have actual content
2018-10-05 00:20
Both r same One is bot Other is toxic brat
2018-10-04 08:31
Downgrade, also i believe it's never a good idea to have a majority from same country, in a international team, like optic with Shazam, Stan, K0nfig, Cajunb and gade had complications.
2018-10-04 08:35
draken trash
2018-10-04 08:37
#15
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Germany Constikdw 
Downgrade for sure, don’t do it. They need someone like cerq, Wardell, etc.
2018-10-04 08:37
Major upgrade, people are underrating draken just because he has sucked in fnatic, skadoodle is a bot. But EU quals is harder
2018-10-04 08:42
#22
CeRq | 
Bulgaria Riooo 
Yes and he was in fnatic for a long time and played like shit, Don't get me wrong i love draken and i was a big fan when he was in NiP but currently he sucks
2018-10-04 18:10
just to make sure i am not crazy there was an interview on the site from a nip player that wasnt draken or it was the coach that said they changed how they wanted him to play and afterwards he became shit
2018-10-05 00:16
Downgrade
2018-10-04 18:13
#27
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Bulgaria GreoN 
-ska +cerq cloud9 top5
2018-10-04 18:19
Downgrade, and C9 would lose all of it's American fans. Doubt Jack is dumb enough to do something like that but if he is RIP C9 I'll be joining the Liquid bandwagon.
2018-10-04 18:21
Plastic fan
2018-10-04 19:07
Yeah I’m a plastic fan for staying with this team for 4 years through the highest highs and highest lows. Watching the entire team crumble in front of me to the point where it’s not even close to what it was before. I’m not supporting C9 I support the players
2018-10-04 21:30
Slemmy time xddd I will support C9 no matter what. I also bought so much C9 stuff.. Like, 4 shirts, mousepad, a keychain as well
2018-10-05 00:22
downgrade
2018-10-04 19:10
#38
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Ukraine dieded_inside 
Lmao -clown9
2018-10-04 19:12
#39
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Sweden Lagge15 
Skadaddy is probably retiring from pro cs quite soon so they will need to find another AWP:er. But why go for an AWP:er who has some serious flaws, never been top tier and hold open angles? Nah. That wouldnt be an upgrade. Maybe not a downgrade bit definitely not an upgrade. They should go for CeRq or Oskar instead
2018-10-04 19:14
so basicly old fnatic north american style
2018-10-04 19:15
I think C9 should go after the mighty Taco and trade Automatic to Liquid. As for Draken and Skadogshit it's replacing one baddy for another baddy. Team will still suck.
2018-10-04 19:19
#43
Other dkzr 
cloud9 under swedish flag yay
2018-10-04 19:42
#44
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Finland quton 
Massive upgrade. In fact, -ska +literally any pro player who has ever touched the game is upgrade. -ska+juliano makes C9 better.
2018-10-04 19:43
he is just way too inconsistent and cant hit ez shots that he should hit all day
2018-10-04 19:43
I feel like overall both are equally poor, so why even bother? I do wish that either TL or C9 would pick up CeRq though (C9's more likely as TL already has a lot of firepower).
2018-10-04 21:34
#53
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Ukraine mple 
yeah no
2018-10-04 22:01
#54
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United Kingdom SomeBritCunt 
Why though. C9 doesn't really care. They will probs get rid of the EU players and make it full NA again.
2018-10-04 22:04
No!
2018-10-04 22:04
make c9 Swedish team XD
2018-10-04 22:06
you don't need to go from a 0 on the toxic skala to a 10 on the toxic skala straight away.
2018-10-04 22:07
Its quite simple actually: Skadoodle and draken are both bad right now. Skadoodle has been bad for what? 2 years by now? With some peaks of being decent of course but still overall bad. draken on the other hand has been only bad for like 8 months, starting with when he was forced to be a "static" AWPer for NiP and then when he was in fnatic which was just a failure in general. I gave up on Skadoodle but draken has still potential to be good again. Skadoodle is known to not communicate much. Fuck he even did that in the major final. Even Stewie2k who played so long with shroud and BOT n0thing wanted him gone. I never heard something similiar about draken. Skadoodle is basically one step into retirement. We all know he is done and its just a matter of time. He won a major - it wont get better. draken won one tournament in his entire career and is only 22 years old. I doubt he is done yet. tl;dr: Both bad right now, draken way more potential to be good again, Skadoodle not communicating and no motivation unlike draken
2018-10-04 22:21
#63
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Denmark beastkiller84 
upgrade
2018-10-05 00:13
sign GHOST +autimatic. Draken is dead toxic player
2018-10-05 00:20
#73
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Poland Pashito04 
+1
2018-10-05 07:29
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