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AMD R5 2600 Asus prime b450 Gtx 1070ti kfa2 16gb ram g.skill 3200 SSD 500gb Samsung evo Thermaltake mk-I gaming case Be quiet 630w Need PC for games and work. Think it's a good setup for this price.
2018-10-07 22:38
you should really buy a good cpu before spending 400 euro on a gpu
2018-10-07 22:40
It's good cpu
2018-10-07 22:44
its a good cpu for a 1050 or 1060, not for 1070
2018-10-07 22:46
#21
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
Mentally challenged
2018-10-07 22:50
yeah its not like this shit is my fucking job lol
2018-10-07 22:52
#45
Xyp9x | 
Czech Republic Puqet 
you suck dicks then lmao nothing is black and white, some games make my 1070 run at 90% while the other old ass strategy games make it run on like 10% for example. cs can make it run at 40% when you play behind the smoke too
2018-10-07 23:18
generally i advise you to spend as much on cpu as on gpu to have a balanced pc. if you want to exclusively play the newest games with ultra graphics on 4k at 30fps you can buy a 1070 with a comparatively shit cpu, but i still wouldnt advise it. you can upgrade your gpu easier than cpu. or buy a second one for SLI. if you need to upgrade cpu you will have to buy new cpu, new mobo. maybe new ram. its a lot more expensive. so buy a cpu that can last you for a long time. its easily worth spending a bit extra on it, youre saving money long term. same goes for some other components. buy a large case, then you wont need to buy a bigger one if you buy a 1080ti. buy a gold or plat rated psu with enough power to run your pc 2 times, so you dont have to buy a new one if in the future you buy components that use more power. etc.
2018-10-07 23:38
#50
Xyp9x | 
Czech Republic Puqet 
the 90% game i mentioned was payday2 on fullHD lmao well amd is promising that you will be able to use the current mobo till 2020, let's see
2018-10-08 00:09
amd promise this every time, you have about 50% chance
2018-10-08 00:10
i used my amd phenom 2 x4 965 black edition from 2011 till last moth this year.
2018-10-08 10:47
you really don't understand what you're talking about xD
2018-10-08 10:47
amds support for legacy cpus on new mobos is spotty at best, they rely on manufacturers to implement this and those dont always get it right. there is a good chance that an old cpu wont work with a new mobo, or old mobo with new cpu, even when amd says it will. if you werent an idiot and actually studied computer science you would know stuff like this. so thats why i told you to stay in school kid.
2018-10-08 13:25
> "yeah its not like this shit is my fucking job lol" > generally i advise you to spend as much on cpu as on gpu to have a balanced pc. * At high/ultra setting in every game bottlneck will be GPU not cpu. Even R5 1400 will be enough for most of them. In some games you will really get higher fps with 8600k/8700k due to higher frequency. But you should pay twice more for 8800k over 2600 for get 5-10% more fps. Hmmmmmm well if you dont want to spend 3k on gaming PC you shoudnt do this) > you can upgrade your gpu easier than cpu. or buy a second one for SLI *AHAHAHAHHAHAHA SLI? xD Really how much NEW games supports SLI? 10%? 15? youre braindead mate. "if you need to upgrade cpu you will have to buy new cpu, new mobo. maybe new ram. *JDEC standardized just few based standarts for DDR5. First DDR5 will be worse than DDR4 and will starts only in 2021-2022. So you can stand still at DDR4 till 2025. Even x370/b350/a320 will support ryzen 3xxx (7nm). TSMC 7nm better than intel 10nm so next gen ryzen can get really close singlecore performance to sintol (with much more higher multithread). So the only you need to upgrade cpu is new cpu) *and dont forget due to artificial deficiency sintol cpus got overpriced even more (you will pay $50+ for nothing) so yeah its the best choice to spend your money for intel now xD Well, if this is your job then you do it extremely crap
2018-10-08 11:10
if you only play spunk gargle wee wee shooter campaigns at 30fps with ultra settings. you can buy a shit cpu, you will get a shit framerate no matter what you do, so it doesnt matter. however this is a COUNTER STRIKE GLOBAL OFFENSIVE forums, so I recommend that people should buy a cpu with decent single core performance. that will always be important for fast paced shooters. even if valve launch a cs game on source 2 with the latest directx and good multithreading, single core performance will still be the bottleneck, because it is inherent to these games that a lot of stuff has to happen sequentially. with directx 12, every game supports multi gpu. newest games already use it. once more you demonstrate your lack of knowledge. and you use insults to try to hide your lack of knowledge. it is sadly very easy for me to see through it, because i do have that knowledge. so you cant win this conversation. please do type another essay though. your tears are delicious.
2018-10-08 13:29
+1
2018-10-08 13:57
#117
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Hungary adzeii 
dude, this cpu easily handles a 1080 without bottleneck
2018-10-08 16:19
#118
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
He is #21, dont bother to explain him anything edt. i have overclocked fx and 1070ti bottleneck my CPU (there is not a single game on ultra that can load it to 100% while GPU is all the time on 100% lol)
2018-10-08 16:28
if you want a 1070 you should kinda buy a 400 euro i7 as well or one of the most expensive ryzen, otherwise that 1070 will be at 30% all the time.
2018-10-07 22:47
0/8
2018-10-07 22:55
stay in school kid
2018-10-07 23:42
0/8 Im really laughing at every your comment here. Youre so brainwashed xD
2018-10-08 10:43
its good that you can find some joy in your life. it seems to me that retards are usually happy. that makes me happy too.
2018-10-08 13:23
Not really. I don't want to buy overpriced Intel CPUs and they are performing worst than AMD as workstation. R5 2600 oced is not that bad compared to 8600. I7 is expensive af.
2018-10-07 22:56
unless youre going to do video encoding or photoshop the benchmark performance of ryzen is irrelevant, most applications are not well multi threaded so they wont use all your cores. ryzen 5 isnt bad single threaded, its ok for a 1060 just like my old i5 is okay for a 1060. its just not good enough for a 1070 i7 is expensive yes, a 1070 is also expensive. dont buy it if you cant afford it.
2018-10-07 23:40
even fx 83xx > sandy/ivy/hasswell i5 now. Idk how stupid should you be to compare it with r5
2018-10-08 11:31
fx8 series is pure garbage compared to any i5 from the past 10 years, even 2700K is better. they dont OC at all.
2018-10-08 13:40
yes 10 years ago it was shit bcuz soft (inc games) didnt used 8cores properly. Buy 2500k and 8320 now. OC both (oc ram, fsb, not only cpu freq like retards on youtube doing) and the result shocks you.
2018-10-08 13:54
or you can just look up reviews of these cpus and benchmark scores on hwbot.
2018-10-08 13:55
well do it
2018-10-08 13:57
why dont you do it, youre trying to say amd isnt trash
2018-10-08 13:58
why should i do it when you talking nonsense not me?
2018-10-08 14:00
because i went to school for this shit and im not going to waste my time looking up something that you can look up yourself.
2018-10-08 14:01
you should be very bad student :D or you waste alot of time for nothing xD
2018-10-08 14:03
well i wasted my time now looking up the benchmarks, because im such a nice fucking guy. comment #107, what do you have to say
2018-10-08 14:34
but you sould understand synthetic tests =/= real soft
2018-10-08 13:59
synthetic tests are currently biased in favor of amd because they are usually better multi threaded than real applications.
2018-10-08 14:00
and again you cant get the point of message. Or you just trying to play the fool. Or youre not playing xD
2018-10-08 14:06
no you are too stupid to get the point. benchmarks make amd look better than they are in most real world applications. because they are extremely parallellised. so if you cannot show that what you say is true for benchmarks, with benchmark results, then its 200% not true for real applications.
2018-10-08 14:09
so maybe try to watch on reallity to see something wrong with your theory? You know theres ALOT of benchmarks not cinebench onlye?
2018-10-08 14:12
nl.hardware.info/categorie/3/processors/.. this is a dutch site with lots of test results. if you click on the 5th option in the first dropdown menu, the august 2018 version of the 2017 cpu test setup, and then select a game in the second dropdown, for example BF1 at medium graphics, you will see that Ryzen 7 2700X is outperformed by an i3. on ultra graphics in BF1, the R5 2600 is outperformed by a current gen i3 8100 which is also cheaper. its only a bit better than a 4670K at stock clocks, which was launched in 2013. i could go on.
2018-10-08 14:20
1. i never heard about this site. So this source absulutly not authoritative for me. 2. I can't see 1% and .1% fps drops. So this tests with avg fps absolutly useless 3. 5 games? rlly? 4. 8400 > 8600k and 8700k? hmmmm good site xD try to use real sources, not this shit
2018-10-08 18:42
find a better source
2018-10-10 01:56
and if you look at the 99 percentile frametimes, you will see that an i7 generally has 50% better minimum framerates than a Ryzen cpu. 7.3ms for the i7 8700k in BF1 Ultra, 9.8 for the R2600X, 11.8 for the R2600 this is very relevant for the point earlier about AMD not being capable of 250 min fps in csgo
2018-10-08 14:47
150fps csgo (amd is good but in cs intel>amd)
2018-10-07 23:00
even FX8xxx will give you stable 250+ fps
2018-10-08 10:44
man you wont even get 250 stable with a current gen i5, this isnt 2013 anymore. try using nades in game, wait for enemy to peek behind it, and look at fps counter. you get 200. unless you have an i7 at 5ghz.
2018-10-08 13:41
oh god you even more stupid than i thought. intel using same architecture from Skylake (actually from Sandy Bridge but there was some slight changes and ddr4). And now tell me pls what should give i7 over i5 with similar freq when we talking about singlecore performance? I had FX 8320 less than year ago and as i said before i never seen my fps dropped lower than 250. If you can't get full performance from you hardware... well you should change your work to something you can understand.
2018-10-08 13:48
i7s OC better, intel bins their production lines. they also have HT and bigger cache and more cores.
2018-10-08 13:53
once again. What should gives you HT and more cores WHEN WE TALKING ABOUT SINGLECORE braindead retard xD
2018-10-08 13:57
HT means that a single core can process up to 30% more instructions per clock tick, you gay retard.
2018-10-08 13:57
the reason you dont see fps below 250 is that you only look at fps when you are in spawn before round start or when nothing is happening on your screen. go record the frametimes of a competitive match you play with fraps and i will bet you that you dont get 250 minimum fps. how much you wanna bet?
2018-10-08 13:56
Are you a psychic that you know how and where I look? Stop talking nonsense
2018-10-08 13:56
i know you cant get 250fps stable in csgo in 2018 on a pc with components in this price range. the rest is deduction.
2018-10-08 13:57
#127
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Germany ropzGOD 
Ryzen 5 1600 and 1060 Cpu to 3.9 stable gpu also ocd Stable 250 never drips except inferno
2018-10-08 16:55
Dude, my i5 2500k from 2011 at 4.8ghz is 300fps+ 90% of the time. Even 400+ very often. Very seldom it drops below 300 (in 5on5).
2018-10-10 02:14
thats because its 4.8ghz
2018-10-10 02:14
I know, but saying old hardware isn't capable of that is wrong. CS:GO is mostly single core performance, although OCing my ram from 1300mhz to 2133mhz gave me another 25-30fps on average.
2018-10-10 02:15
#121
allu | 
Estonia IZI4ENCE 
i have i5 4690k and can run 250fps stable cs
2018-10-08 16:30
what model ram do you have, clock speed and latency, and what gpu?
2018-10-08 16:40
#130
allu | 
Estonia IZI4ENCE 
4,4ghz , ram 1333mhz 8gb and r9 280x latency??
2018-10-08 17:52
axaxaxa my friend have fx8350 OC to 4ghz and he gets avg 200fps with drops to 100 wtf u talking about
2018-10-08 14:07
2018-10-08 11:02
#108
NBK- | 
Netherlands JopMans 
I have my Ryzen 1600 paired with a GTX 1080 and I have no issues at all. Every CPU and GPU gets bottlenecked in a certain way anyway. I am not a video encoder or whatsoever but for gaming it still does a great job, and not everyone can raise his budget by like 250 bucks just for those 20 extra frames which are useless on a 60hz monitor. For the price a 2600 and GTX 1070ti is just a killer.
2018-10-08 14:20
there are i3s that perform better than the 2600 in current games and cost less look around here nl.hardware.info/categorie/3/processors/.. the august 2018: cpu test 2017 has most current cpus in one graph. i dont think an i3 and a 1070 is a balanced system, so a 2600 wont be balanced either.
2018-10-08 14:23
#116
NBK- | 
Netherlands JopMans 
Looked up some benchmarks, but AMD slays when it comes to 3d and picture rendering and for gaming kinda compares to an i3 8100, which performs almost the same as an i5 6600k (although the i5 is unlocked, I know I know) Would I pair a 1070ti with an i3-2100? Hell na, but with something that performs like an i5 5500K? Yes I would. It might not be the best combo ever, but to recommend a CPU that costs more than twice the amount of a R5 2600 is quitte exaggerated. Something isn't instantly a bad CPU if it isn't listed in Hardwareinfo's August's best CPU list. If you stay in this guys budget you can get something like an RX 580 paired with an i7 7700k. According t other benchmarks the i7 with RX 580 does perform worse than an R5 2600 + GTX 1070Ti. It's 2018, AMD isn't that weak ass opponent anymore my man.
2018-10-08 16:17
they arent weak, but you can get more performance for less money with intel in most scenarios. only 3 reasons to buy amd: 1 is the better multi thread performance for VMs, for rendering, etc 2 is that you want to give amd money so they can compete with intel which is better for the market on the long term 3 is that they arent affected as much by the recent security bugs with concurrent access which intel hasnt fully patched in the current generation. if you buy a i7 7700k and an rx580 now, you can buy a second rx580 second hand soon, or buy a rx880 or gtx2260 in 3 years. in new dx12 games multi gpu or replacing gpu every 3 years will get you good scaling on performance, in old games without great multithreading, the single thread performance of intel will be better and the rx580 is more than good enough. that you can get marginal extra performance in some games with cheap amd cpu and expensive gpu now, doesnt mean its worth it over a period of 3-10 years. if you buy an average cpu now, you will have to replace it in a couple years, instead of it lasting for 10 years like an i7 would, and the 1070 will need replacing only 1, maybe 2 years later than an rx580 or 1060 3gb, while it is 2x as expensive. the xx70 or xx80 cards with nvidia are never good in price/performance department, so to justify spending that amount of money on gpu, for me, i would need a 400 euro i7 as well. i also wouldnt recommend buying a 4 core locked multiplier intel anymore even if its very cheap for the same reason, it wont last long enough. its just not the most economical choice to skimp on cpu, imo. you have good arguments though.
2018-10-08 16:30
#2
Xyp9x | 
Czech Republic Puqet 
never heard of kfa2 lol and that case is ugly af otherwise it's alright, my build is pretty similar
2018-10-07 22:41
It's rally nice case, it's my old case I had for last few years
2018-10-07 22:45
#18
Xyp9x | 
Czech Republic Puqet 
well it's my personal opinion anyway, I just hate these spaceship looking cases from 2012
2018-10-07 22:49
Ok can understand
2018-10-07 22:57
kfa is a budget chinese brand.
2018-10-07 23:41
kfa budget? ohhhhh... kys
2018-10-08 11:32
it is, you really dont know anything.
2018-10-08 13:43
oh rlly thats why they using kfa brand for their HoF series (one of the most expensive GPU series at all)?
2018-10-08 13:51
expensive doesnt mean good build quality, or brand reliability. it just means the thing costs more money than comparable things.
2018-10-08 13:54
what the hell youre talking again... >kfa is a budget chinese brand. >expensive doesnt mean good build quality who even talked about their quality? I said they not even close to be budget
2018-10-08 14:02
they are a B label, they will use cheap chinese ball bearings in their fans, cheap chinese capacitors, etc.
2018-10-08 14:03
so when you called them budget you meaned they using budget componets but not price of finished product. Ok now i get you point but: 1. it doesn't sound right 2. this is not true of their top products anymore. Element base in their 980, 1070, 1080, 1080ti was much better then used giga, msi, some of asus, evga products.
2018-10-08 14:10
its the same as ASUS. they can make a good card. or, they can sell you one with a cooler that doesnt cool enough on day 1 so your gpu is always 80 degrees, and falls apart after 1 year. which means you will have to spend 30-40 euros on a new cooler and suddenly that card is not so cheap any more. you take a risk. thats why its a budget brand.
2018-10-08 14:12
This is called poor control of defective products. Or do you think that the asus purposely build plants to make bad coolers, condensers, etc.? Do you realize the cost of such nonsense?
2018-10-08 14:15
yes, the cost is that they lose some customers after their gpu falls apart, but then theyve already made their profit. and theres always more suckers, more kids, who will try to save 10 euro by buying a defective product.
2018-10-08 14:21
#3
felps | 
Brazil pluga 
is there lights on that?
2018-10-07 22:42
On what?
2018-10-07 22:45
#9
felps | 
Brazil pluga 
on the pc?
2018-10-07 22:46
Yes xd
2018-10-07 22:47
#14
felps | 
Brazil pluga 
so it's good
2018-10-07 22:47
#6
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Russia og_loc 
Omg, the word "rate" makes me wanna puke. If you want to show off with ur new PC, then just say it; if you want people to rate your PC - why would you even care about what we think, you have spent a shitton of money on it and you obviously think it's a good PC -otherwise, why would you buy it
2018-10-07 22:45
Why so mad lol
2018-10-07 22:47
#16
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Russia og_loc 
Have anything to say other than this?
2018-10-07 22:48
Nothing to you, fuck off.
2018-10-07 22:49
#20
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Russia og_loc 
Ahahahah, why so mad lol
2018-10-07 22:50
#24
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Russia og_loc 
Btw, ur PC sucks, do you like my rate?
2018-10-07 22:51
It doesn't suck lmao.
2018-10-08 10:57
#105
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Russia og_loc 
Ofc it doesn't
2018-10-08 14:14
#25
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Russia og_loc 
Now ur gonna throw it out of the window?))
2018-10-07 22:51
+1
2018-10-07 22:47
#39
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Canada robinson_89 
PC is trash lets be honest
2018-10-07 22:59
#43
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Russia og_loc 
Yeah, my friend's dick is way better
2018-10-07 23:00
what did he mean by this? 🤔🤔
2018-10-08 10:48
#103
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Russia og_loc 
I meant EZ4ENCE obv
2018-10-08 14:13
0/8 no i7 or i5 stfu
2018-10-07 22:48
#19
United States jr0d 
Get the amd ryzen 7 2700x on sale at newegg right now 300
2018-10-07 22:50
there is a world outside the US you know..maybe you didn't learn that in school..LUL
2018-10-08 11:03
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2018-10-08 15:05
#22
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Japan hirohito 
8700k @5,1ghz aorus gaming 7 1080ti gaming x trio 16gb corsair oc to 3,3ghz floppy drive dark base 700 ax860i full rgb for 15% performance boost
2018-10-07 22:50
#27
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Russia og_loc 
What a bad PC
2018-10-07 22:52
#28
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Japan hirohito 
+2
2018-10-07 22:52
#30
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Russia og_loc 
Have you thrown it out?
2018-10-07 22:54
#31
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Japan hirohito 
no im using it to cook my eggs
2018-10-07 22:54
#34
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Russia og_loc 
Wow, now I see why Japan' technologies are so advanced
2018-10-07 22:56
#35
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Japan hirohito 
yes nippon ppl are clever indeed
2018-10-07 22:56
#23
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Finland siloquez 
KFA GFX cards have been super loud and problems with the fans (at least the 9xx series). I haven't had one myself but that's what I've heard. So if you can get a different one maybe get it. And you never stated the price. But CS:GO will run good with that setup most likely (no idea about the processor tho).
2018-10-07 22:51
#29
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Russia og_loc 
Yeah, you are right, i prefer "suckmydick" cards
2018-10-07 22:53
#38
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Finland siloquez 
Reply needs to have actual content
2018-10-07 22:58
#41
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Russia og_loc 
False, mine doesn't have any content but it was still posted
2018-10-07 23:00
What a great input to this discussion.
2018-10-08 10:50
#104
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Russia og_loc 
I'm a stupid brainwashed russkie, what else can you expect from me??
2018-10-08 14:14
1080p? 7/10 1440p 9/10
2018-10-07 22:58
What ssd from samsung evo, 8X0 or 9X0?
2018-10-07 22:59
#44
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Finland Headbangeri 
Like many here has said, you should consider changing your cpu. You do not need to get intel, but atleast get better ryzen as it will bottleneck your gpu. Games at the current time are more cpu heavy than gpu heavy, so your cpu has to be better than this in order for them to run better. You could even downgrade your gpu for better cpu.
2018-10-07 23:06
So how does Ryzen 2600 bottleneck a 1070?
2018-10-08 10:55
#58
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Croatia KockicaRekt 
1/10 cuz amd & nvidia
2018-10-08 10:50
#59
Snax | 
United Kingdom LFX 
Change your CPU bud. You've heard it before but trust in all of us. If you want to put that graphics card to good use you need a CPU on the same or a similar level like a Ryzen 7 or a high i5 (I would recommend ryzen)
2018-10-08 10:50
Not sure why people are so mad about your ryzen 2600. It performs just fine. In fact it performs better than an i5 8400 if you use memory with high clock speed and OC it a bit. i5 8400 is pretty much the newest Intel stuff. Yes 8600k and 8700k perform better, but useless for gaming in general unless you are an enthusiast who wants to have 144fps all the time in every game at 1080p.
2018-10-08 10:58
#66
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Lithuania aels 
better than mine, 2/8
2018-10-08 11:11
#89
s1 | 
Ukraine mpletop1 
ryzen is garbage
2018-10-08 13:58
#111
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Germany Kaidixdeh 
That BeQuiet PSU is old and there are far better options then this T4 PSU. Also I want to know which CPU cooler you have.
2018-10-08 14:25
#114
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Slovakia ypsylonnn 
The combo of ur gpu and cpu is kinda weird, also i wouldnt trust brands such as manli or kfa but its a nice build
2018-10-08 14:48
#125
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Austria iVulkaN 
kfa is pretty unkown but good one, my gtx1060 oc works as good as asus strix perfomance wise
2018-10-08 16:44
#120
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Ukraine kek1 
Really nice 9/10 Good choice to pick ryzen over intel cpus
2018-10-08 16:30
0/8
2018-10-08 16:43
#128
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Ukraine kek1 
AMD>Intel
2018-10-08 17:02
0/8
2018-10-09 12:31
#134
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Ukraine kek1 
8/8
2018-10-09 12:42
#124
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Austria iVulkaN 
Great choices and you can easily upgrade ryzen since they dont fuckin change chipset for higher cores like Intel
2018-10-08 16:43
-> AMD R5 2600 -> GTX 1070 Choose one
2018-10-08 16:45
#129
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Ukraine kek1 
ik its better to use 1080 ti
2018-10-08 17:03
stopped reading at amd you better get an i9 9900k if you use it for work and games. your budget should be indefinite.
2018-10-09 12:34
#135
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Ukraine kek1 
new i9 is completely overpriced and useless
2018-10-09 12:43
5ghz 8 cores 16 threads intel architecture. of course ts a bit overpriced, because only enthusiasts buy it and they pay more.
2018-10-09 12:45
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