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Bolsonaro x Haddad. BR Politics
trk | 
Brazil rmarques 
youtube.com/watch?v=FsZ3p9gOkpY You guys don't know too much about politics in Brazil, so all you can see comes from the media. And I can tell you that this video is too biased and there were many things out of context. I guarantee you that Bolsonaro is certainly less worse than Haddad (PT). If you go for Bolsonaro, type: B17. If you go for Haddad, type: H13. _________________________________________ This is a valid discussion as "Off Topic". Ok, HLTV mods? Thank you.
2018-10-10 21:35
B71
2018-10-10 21:36
Bruxa do 71?
2018-10-11 03:46
#102
Snax | 
Argentina Lokoxx60 
Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2018-10-11 04:05
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2018-10-12 19:40
#191
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Brazil rickySCE 
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2018-10-14 03:07
#207
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Brazil MommyStealer 
kkkkkkk
2018-10-15 01:18
Haddad muslim or no?
2018-10-10 21:37
#4
trk | 
Brazil rmarques 
Idk, but PT is socialist and supports many socialist dictatorships around the world.
2018-10-10 21:38
Haddad likes men then or no?
2018-10-10 21:44
#7
trk | 
Brazil rmarques 
I don't know if he likes men, why ?
2018-10-10 21:46
i dont know shit about brazil but what would speak for this guy? except apparently being the "only non corrupt politician" lul. Even taken out of context some of the shit he says cant be justified. what is he going to change in the country?
2018-10-11 04:01
nothing, half of the brazilians are evil or just brainwashed.
2018-10-12 19:52
thats what i thought
2018-10-12 20:05
#55
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Brazil BoaPaNois 
URSAAAL
2018-10-11 01:43
#3
trk | 
Brazil rmarques 
B17, ofc. Btw on the first round I voted for Amoedo.
2018-10-10 21:37
Same! And did you see Vinicius Poit vote against the raise in the politicians salary? I am so proud to have also voted on him.
2018-10-11 00:11
#56
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Brazil BoaPaNois 
Bolsonaro voted for increase politicians salary, where is your god now? noticias.uol.com.br/politica/ultimas-not..
2018-10-11 01:45
Yeah, and I hate that. But is Haddad any better? Is PT any better? Putting all things on balance, I think Bolsonaro is better, but I still think he is terrible. “Quer que atire no pé ou na mão?”
2018-10-11 03:06
dude PT is gonna fuck up the country even more lol
2018-10-11 03:59
#5
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Cyprus I_love_lolis_ 
B17 ofc
2018-10-10 21:39
#10
trk | 
Brazil rmarques 
ofc xD
2018-10-10 22:15
#8
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Portugal ruskii 
b17 for sure lol
2018-10-10 21:48
b17 new religion
2018-10-10 21:49
#11
trk | 
Brazil rmarques 
youtube.com/watch?v=13itkaY0lh0&feature=.. "As forças que podem levar Haddad e o PT à presidência | Foro de São Paulo e estratégia das tesouras".
2018-10-10 23:55
#12
trk | 
Brazil rmarques 
2018-10-10 23:56
#13
trk | 
Brazil rmarques 
Brazilians should really watch it!
2018-10-10 23:57
#14
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
"You are too ugly to rape" "Out of context" I just can't even.
2018-10-10 23:58
#17
trk | 
Brazil rmarques 
Believe me, PT is much worse. And that's out of context btw.
2018-10-11 00:01
thiefs are worst than murders?
2018-10-11 03:24
dude, bolsonaro's supporters aren't murderers. most of them are family mans who wants a better country to live, instead of pt.
2018-10-12 19:49
#19
trk | 
Brazil rmarques 
PT is socialist and supports many socialist dictatorships around the world.
2018-10-11 00:02
The woman in case was protecting a guy called “champinha”, he was a 16 y.o. Rapist who kidnapped a girl and raped her for 3 days and killed her and her boyfriend with a machete. She was saying that he is underage and didn’t deserve to go to jail. He was protesting against it, then the woman called him a rapist, that’s when he said he wouldn’t rape her because she is too ugly. Terrible statement, yes, but he was hot headed due to the context
2018-10-11 00:08
It is not out of context. Typical uneducated sheep who does not even know what a very common phrase means. Just find a guy that does not rape beautiful women?
2018-10-11 23:35
Wow, so educated argument, gratz for your amazing education.
2018-10-12 06:15
Well you can make a logical assumption from that comment. The guy rapes women.
2018-10-12 19:37
Lol, k, that's actually called intellectual dishonesty.
2018-10-13 01:10
How? When someone says "You are to ugly to for me to rape" It implies that someone is not. You sir just made a fool of yourself on internet. No coming back, and life will be ruined under the right wing dictator because no one who cant even bait on hltv is to no use for a modern society.
2018-10-13 01:43
k, bye
2018-10-13 03:39
#30
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Brazil lokodecrack 
when he said that he was called to interview about reducing the minimal age for criminal responsability, he was pro reducing that age and Maria do Rosario wasnt, the discussion came from a group of 17 y old boys that raped for 5 days a girl and killed his boyfriend, she started calling bolsonaro a rapist and bolsonaro in the same level of stupidity responded that she didnt deserve to be raped, listen, Bolsonaro wanted harsher punishment for rapists and for that was called rapist by Maria do Rosario that was actually protecting those rapists and was against reducing the criminal responsability age, bolsonaro already stated that he plans to reduce criminal responsability from 18 to 17 years if he becomes president and also showed support on tightening punishment crimes against women
2018-10-11 00:13
I fucking knew it! When I first saw that conveniently cut video I just said: Well what the fuck happened before, what did she say for him to react in that way. This type of shit ALWAYS NEEDS CONTEXT. Ofc not saying he is right, just that the way some people try to paint him as the villain in this situation is dishonest at best...
2018-10-11 01:07
I dont like Bolsonaro and he has some ultra level of stupidity, but people act like he is the worst guy in the world, when we have PT, i cant even say all the bad things PT did and want to do if they have the power again (Venezuela and 6 more dictatorships, Mensalão, Petrolão, all the big guys there in jail or investigated, etc) The guy is 100% right about that, Bolsonaro wasnt right, but what that fucking girl was doing IS WAY WORSE, and i'm not even talking about calling him rapist
2018-10-11 01:21
I really hope you have a better options than Bolsonaro in this election or you´re really fucked...
2018-10-11 01:28
#54
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Brazil lokodecrack 
he is the best option we have
2018-10-11 01:41
We had, I voted for Amoêdo, he and other guys founded the first libertarian party (2015) and this is their first election. They dont use our money, they are there to cut privileges, none of them are accused of corruption (ofc, they worked in private companies or were entrepeneurs) and they want to give more power to us (Brazil is one of the worst countries when we talk about economic freedom) Unfortanely the majority of the population dont know him and he doesnt have a strong speech like Bolsonaro against criminals, for example. But their candidate to Governor (a successful entrepeneur) in my State is in the 2nd round Now we have Haddad (PT - left-wing, his party in the power for the last 16 years (their last president suffered impeachment, corruption and support for dictatorships, he was considered the worst Mayor of São Paulo and he is accused of corruption) AGAINST Bolsonaro (PSL - right-wing, conservative, he was always a statist, but last year he called Paulo Guedes (Ph. D in University of Chicago) a famous libertarian, Bolsonaro is a congressman for almost 30 years, he was an army captain, supported our military dictatorship and has some really bad statements against gays) I will support Bolsonaro, i hope Paulo Guedes can do a good work, but imo these are the worst options for the left and the right. We had better options, for sure
2018-10-11 02:04
#187
TACO | 
Brazil TonimSan 
"Worst Mayor of São Paulo" facebook.com/fernandohaddad/videos/12367..
2018-10-14 02:37
17% of approval, but that /fernandohaddad will change my mind, sorry dude, but i'm fucking libertarian, believe me, u wont change a libertarian's mind so easily Nice try (i actually didnt even see the video, cuz i have more things to do now and i dont care about that by now)
2018-10-14 03:02
#44
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Brazil P4uloVisk 
+1
2018-10-11 01:35
#112
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
Hmmm, I wasnt know these details... So what about all the homophobic shit he said, and the "we need dictatorship"? Any background on those?
2018-10-11 07:49
#116
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Brazil lokodecrack 
first, he never said that Brazil needed a dictatorship, if you took that from a media outlet you should stop using it, second of, yeah he said some homophobic shit but each person has their right to their opinion, Bolsonaro is a religious guy and he thinks a family consist of woman, man and child, as it is stated in Brazil constitution, the only thing he doesnt want is lgbt community creating school subjects for underaged kids, since they dont have those for straight's, why should it for gays? kids should never be schooled about sexual gender until high school, and my final argument is no one should reject bolsonaro because of social discussion points, his ideias for jobs, security and economics is much better than any of PT's side, PT's side comes from a lot of corruption, which haddad had been caught before, he also have to take opinions from an ex president incarcerated for corruption, i would rather have a hardline president with military background than a corrupt that comes from a corrupt party
2018-10-11 18:48
Because PT wants the ''KIT GAY'' on the school to kids, but Bolsonaro says - The Childrens must learn for theirselfs in future, we can't persuade the childrens of 6 old. The problem is, the great media, want Haddad for president, because they will earn some billions, like always. Bolsonaro wants the end of this, because the billions they earn, comes from us! In the last year, the great media says that he is racist, homophobic, male chauvinist, nazist, torturer, and others things. Also says the image the PT is a angel and victim, even they stealing billions every fucking day! with LavaJato, Mensalão, etc. The TV, Magazzines and Radio are broken, but the Internet face and organized all the manifestations against PT, Lula and Dilma. I was there!
2018-10-11 22:55
at this point I don't even know If most brazilians are evil or just brainwashed
2018-10-11 03:14
this was completely out of context, lol. She called him a rapist when he was the one defeding harder punishment for rapists and then he ironically said, "I'm a rapist? ok, but you don't have to worry, cause ur too ugly to even be raped"...
2018-10-11 04:15
dáqueeutedououtra
2018-10-11 05:11
#154
vsm | 
Brazil tibazera 
She called him of rapist before he say that.
2018-10-12 06:00
All i have to say is this: youtube.com/watch?v=ao75SagLKls And for you europeans, you don´t know nothing that happens in Brazil: everything those comunists tell you about BOLSONARO are lies... Don´t be fooled!
2018-10-11 00:00
H13 cant understand those people who support authoritarian and traditional government
2018-10-10 23:59
#18
trk | 
Brazil rmarques 
#12
2018-10-11 00:02
watched it, so what? dont see any threat
2018-10-11 00:40
#32
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Brazil BoaPaNois 
+1
2018-10-11 00:43
B17 can't understand those who support a corrupt government
2018-10-11 00:50
#45
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Brazil P4uloVisk 
+1
2018-10-11 01:35
its not about supporting PT. its about being against fascism. itd be the biggest regression as a society. we've been under their lead for years, and 4 more of them wouldnt be that much loss
2018-10-11 02:28
It is about supporting PT, you're voting for them after all. I WOULD LOVE TO, but we won't have a fascist government, not yet
2018-10-11 03:44
#118
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Brazil lokodecrack 
a semi fascist government is what we need to get straight, to fight criminality and the social inversion that we have, if you think a left government is progressive go to cuba, china, venezuela, north korea, then you will have the taste what fascism really is
2018-10-11 18:59
supporting fascism goes against human rights and the most important, our personal freedom to be who we are and do what we want. We have been on a center-left government with PT, and we never were close to a "very-left" country, like those you said.
2018-10-12 20:36
#166
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Brazil lokodecrack 
first off, bolsonaro is not fascist, you and others are retarded to say that, he only share a couple topics of the fascism and all of them are actually good for the country, we need ultra nascionalism, we need obsesion with national security, he doesnt have any plans against human rights, i dare you to get one plan of his government that violates human right, just because he has a few thoughts that goes the fascism way doesnt mean he is fascist, the same for you saying that the country is not very left even tho PT is obviously left wing
2018-10-12 20:58
#117
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Brazil DiguiNTC 
a contradiction here since both candidates, base and supporters are corrupt
2018-10-11 18:58
>basednaro >corrupt
2018-10-11 19:01
hes more liberal than authoritarian...
2018-10-11 01:37
economically yes, but i didnt mean that
2018-10-11 01:46
#76
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Brazil BlueLighting 
so.... You dont want go to jail if you commit some crime? 'Cuz is that what Bolsonaro says....
2018-10-11 03:01
Yes, but not be killed or tortured, things he think that are right and btw, racism and homophobia attacks are crimes too, things that bolsonaro's electors seems to enjoy doing
2018-10-13 21:08
#185
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Brazil BlueLighting 
Yeah... before Bolsonaro there was no homophobic and racism attacks.... even because in the PT government they only increased... osh... "killed or tortured, things he think that are right" Show me this in his govern plan The truth that out of nowhere the leftists changed the strategy and decided to post a lot of "fanfic" having voters from bolsonaro as villains... An example would be the story of the girl who claims to be scratched with the symbol of Nazism, but in fact it was a Buddhist symbol... since it was done in reverse(mirror effect????)... and yet it didn't go ahead with the processes.... perhaps she discovered that false witness is a crime...
2018-10-13 22:25
of course there were, but bolsonaro makes them more confortable doing this kinda crimes, because he is a racist and homophobic, working like a protector for them. he obviously wouldnt say that in his govern plan, but it's clear that he supports militar dictatorship, and killing of criminals. It's even clearer when he wants to give guns to normal people to kill people by themselves. why tf would anyone draw bhuddists symbols everywhere? for me, those are nazists who cant draw the symbol properly. and yes, idk in fact if this thing about the symbol on the girl's belly is true, but anyway, im seeing a lot of those symbols written around with #elesim and similar statements.
2018-10-14 02:29
PT support and financed authoritarian anti democratic countries, wants to change the constitution, with topics like Venezuela. You are the facist here, not Bolsonaro, If Brazil wasnt so big and with hight complexity, PT would have accomplished It long time Ago.
2018-10-13 20:27
#53
trk | 
Brazil rmarques 
He's not. But PT wants to be. (even more, that's their goal)
2018-10-11 01:40
B17
2018-10-11 00:05
+1
2018-10-11 00:06
I loved Bolsonaro ever since that interview with Ellen Page, if I was Brazilian I'd vote for him
2018-10-11 00:06
+1
2018-10-11 00:06
#27
trk | 
Brazil rmarques 
+1
2018-10-11 00:08
#46
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Brazil P4uloVisk 
+1
2018-10-11 01:36
#25
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United States PsychoLogical 
results when eh?
2018-10-11 00:08
#28
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Brazil siedlarczykK 
28th october
2018-10-11 00:08
#26
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Brazil siedlarczykK 
B17 easily I like to eat, access the internet, watch the news not from the government media, to work freely. I like the private property. I dont want to starve and end like Venezuela Nothing can be more authoritharian than regulate the media, disarm people, defend Maduro, Cuba and other communist shit
2018-10-11 00:09
#33
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Brazil BoaPaNois 
H13 ez
2018-10-11 00:44
#77
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Brazil BlueLighting 
expected
2018-10-11 03:03
#151
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Japan Getp0x0st 
chupa de puta haddad lixo communisto sympathizo
2018-10-12 05:58
#34
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United States TriHardSeven 
B17, I'd vote for him if I was Brazilian. Anything but communist sympathizers.
2018-10-11 00:44
#49
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Brazil P4uloVisk 
+1
2018-10-11 01:37
#63
trk | 
Brazil rmarques 
+1 smart guy.
2018-10-11 02:04
that video was entertaining A30
2018-10-11 01:06
#50
trk | 
Brazil rmarques 
A30 was the best one!
2018-10-11 01:38
B17 ez
2018-10-11 01:13
B71
2018-10-11 01:20
#199
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United States Unamed7896 
lmao
2018-10-15 00:34
#42
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Brazil jeanzer44 
B17
2018-10-11 01:29
melhor se haddaptar
2018-10-11 01:30
#47
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Brunei Lieenzito 
who
2018-10-11 01:36
#51
gla1ve | 
Brazil xphx 
B17 will always win on the internet. I'm with him, also.
2018-10-11 01:38
#58
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Brazil BoaPaNois 
Sure, many kids around
2018-10-11 01:46
TIL 46% of brazilians that voted on the 1st turn are actually kids
2018-10-11 01:54
#64
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Brazil BoaPaNois 
They see themselves in Bolsonaro. A fascist, racist, against LGBT rights and that wants "communists" dead. You can see through all people being attacked by neo fascists guys. But here in HLTV all kids metrojornal.com.br/foco/2018/10/08/profe..
2018-10-11 02:06
TIL 46% of brazilians that voted on the 1st turn are actually fascists, racists, against LGBT rights and that wants "communists" dead
2018-10-11 02:49
#74
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United States TriHardSeven 
Don't see anything wrong with what you classified him as, should be looked for in all leaders.
2018-10-11 02:54
#89
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Brazil mibrzera 
dont cry dud
2018-10-11 03:27
#127
EliGE | 
Portugal ArturS 
why lgbts should have more rights than us?
2018-10-11 22:25
#128
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Brazil BoaPaNois 
catracalivre.com.br/cidadania/brasil-mai.. Who said "more rights"? They just dont want to die.
2018-10-11 22:27
#129
EliGE | 
Portugal ArturS 
1 lgbt in 19 hours and how many straight guys?
2018-10-11 22:28
#130
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Brazil BoaPaNois 
doesnt matter straight guys, what matter is, lgbt die just because they are lgbt.
2018-10-11 22:30
#95
gla1ve | 
Brazil xphx 
kids don't vote /close
2018-10-11 03:49
#52
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Brazil P4uloVisk 
B17 Bolsonaro 2018 !!
2018-10-11 01:38
#61
trk | 
Brazil rmarques 
Bolsonaro going to win by around 55% despite the massive support... youtube.com/watch?v=80kUed21j9s
2018-10-11 02:03
#62
woxic | 
Brazil skazzi 
B17 Between the left corrupt, retarded and dirty and the stupid right, we will have to choose the smaller side worse.
2018-10-11 02:04
>B17< I hope Brazil gets the man their deserve to move their country from the position it is in. Fuck the PT corruption. Criminals are going to be pissing their pants when he is elected. The man survived an assassination attempt, he's probably more motivated to destroy the scum in your country now than he ever was before. I'll be praying for you Brasil
2018-10-11 02:10
#68
trk | 
Brazil rmarques 
+1 ty.
2018-10-11 02:23
Thank you my brother, i wish things go well in USA too.
2018-10-11 03:48
#66
s1mple | 
Brazil wolfff 
b17, in PAULO GUEDES we trust
2018-10-11 02:20
#91
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Brazil BlueLighting 
"apura" "investigação PRELIMINAR" Haddad está no meio de mais de 30 processos por exemplo....
2018-10-11 03:33
#81
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Brazil BoaPaNois 
Trust him and give away your 13o and férias remuneradas
2018-10-11 03:07
#82
s1mple | 
Brazil wolfff 
13o is just the compensation of the month salary, because in brazil we do not earn money by hour or week and the CLT is a fascist thing, i don't get why those lefties 'antifas' always want to keep these stupid laws
2018-10-11 03:13
#84
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Brazil BoaPaNois 
Thanks to Temer and Bolsolixo CLT now allows pregnant women in unsupported environments. NT bolsominion
2018-10-11 03:16
#90
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Brazil BlueLighting 
USA dont have CLT.... I dont see any american coming to BR because of it...
2018-10-11 03:32
#88
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Brazil mibrzera 
>13 >2K18
2018-10-11 03:27
B17
2018-10-11 02:24
#71
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Brazil verybaitguy1 
B17 FOR SURE LOL stupid media this guy dont knows NOTHING about brazil
2018-10-11 02:28
none
2018-10-11 02:54
#78
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Brazil BlueLighting 
B17
2018-10-11 03:04
#85
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Brazil GiovaniXD 
GLÓRIA A DEUXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
2018-10-11 03:17
#87
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Brazil mibrzera 
B17
2018-10-11 03:26
#97
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Brazil g3xcoachdabcz 
Chega de excravidão, chega de corrupição, cabo Daciolo, 51! Glória a deuxx!! Translate: Bolsonaro2018
2018-10-11 03:54
#98
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Canada haroonscape 
gl to brazil they will most certainly need all they can get
2018-10-11 03:56
ty
2018-10-11 05:06
#114
trk | 
Brazil rmarques 
ty
2018-10-11 11:20
#175
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Brazil P4uloVisk 
+17
2018-10-13 01:51
#99
L.K.S | 
Brazil Exfm 
#seventeen
2018-10-11 03:59
#104
FalleN | 
Brazil bcorte 
B17, é o menos pior
2018-10-11 04:22
I understand some old people and poor people from Northeast choosing haddad since their only source of information is TV. But people who live in São Paulo, specially since 2010 onwards and yet will vote Haddad make my blood boil, their IQ is actually lower than of a monkey
2018-10-11 04:48
Ceará is the state which has got 82 of the 100 best state schools in brazil. It's also the state where Bolsonaro wouldn't even make the runoff, as he finished behind Ciro Gomes and Haddad. Yet the people elected in São Paulo include Alexandre Frota, Eduardo Bolsonaro, Tiririca, Kim Kataguiri, MARCO FELICIANO and Arthur Mamãe Falei lmao That's two youtubers, a clown, an evangelical shepherd and a porn actor. Are you SURE you wanna be bragging about IQ here?
2018-10-11 05:15
Ceara is the most or one of the most violent states in Brazil, holds one of the worst HDI index and income per capita, it's a fucking shithole. And yet they voted for the guy who didn't change none of this, tells a lot about their intelligence and Northeast people in general. Kim and Arthur are from MBL, you don't even know all the work they have done and wants to make a judgment based on the fact he owns a YouTube channel, like what does it have to do? You probably haven't even watched a video of his channel. Eduardo Bolsonaro was the most voted dep in Brazil, and he's pretty decent, of course you also don't know nothing about him but think he's bad because you heard somewhere :D do me a favor and move to the nearest zoo so you can interact with monkeys as you have the same IQ.
2018-10-11 05:32
yes, i'm sure you've lived in the northeast for many years to be able to tell what changed in their lives with the guys they've voted for. MBL LMAO. Don't tell me, they are those guys who got several strikes on facebook after spreading fake news like some motherfuckers and proceeded to bitch about Mark Zuckerberg being a communist? yeah ok, hell of a job they do If you think bolsonaro's son if a decent politician I honestly believe you should kys or maybe you're just a crente who's got zero brains, supports torture and then prays to god for the love of jesus christ. oh what do I know
2018-10-11 05:39
Altought I am pretty sure that you will not adress my questions properly, but let me put somethings in perspective so we can all agree to disagree. First of all it is very important to at least have some figures/data that can corroborate with what you are trying to say, which you presented none. Some questions for you: Are you aware that the GDP/capita gap between the Northeast and Southern Brazil has remained the same/increased from 2002-2016? Even with the Northeast having such a bigger space for improvment? Regarding fake news: It seems to me that you, like most leftists out there, suffer from a severe degree of "double standards" complex. I mean, what do you think about people self-inflicting wounds with the sole intent of trying to make Bolsonaro supporters look like nazis? Do you think that Haddad is a decent politician? Do you think that Bolsonaro, or his supporters, are indeed Nazis/fascists? What do you think about Haddad's government plan?
2018-10-11 19:37
Kay, lets try it. 1- I wasn't aware and severely doubted it, so I googled "PIB per capita nordeste" - what I found was this bnb.gov.br/documents/1342439/2839021/001.. - from Banco do Nordeste's .gov address. Give me your thoughts on it. 2 - For one, I think it's very wrong to accuse people to be "self-inflicting wounds" to make bolsonaro supporters look like nazis without any proof - I understand not all bolsonaro supporters are like that, but I think it's a serious issue that the less ignorant part of his voters doubt the veracity of that stuff. Even if you doubt the cases that seem surreal (like the girl who got a swastika carved into her skin) there have been other cases like the capoeira master who got stabbed 12 times after saying he voted for the PT (and killed) ( extra.globo.com/casos-de-policia/mestre-.. ). or the MST guy who got almost beaten to death by Imperio Alviverde members screaming "aqui é bolsonaro" ( paranaportal.uol.com.br/cidades/estudant.. ) I've a gay friend in são paulo who said three of his friends had already been attacked on the street, and Grindr (the gay tinder app) recently issued a warning for people to mind possible fake accounts being created to ambush people ( observatoriog.bol.uol.com.br/noticias/20.. ; poenaroda.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2018.. ) 3 - Yes. I don't think the PT is a decenty party, but Haddad so far has given zero reason for me to doubt him. His government in São Paulo has been treated very unfairly, in my opinion. If you depend on public transport you'll notice he modernized several of the most important bus lines, adding more, newer buses with wi-fi, conditioned air and slots to charge cell phones, added bus lanes on the Marginais and almost 400km of bike paths (even if they're not perfect, people who actually use bikes don't complain about them). What people just don't understand is that São Paulo has got WAY too many cars and the transit issue just CANNOT be fixed by adding more roads, there's no room for it. It requires that people start using the public transportation methods, since cars can't fly just yet (also worth noting, the metro stations and new lines that have taken years to finish building belong to the state government. They only ever finish building when it's election year.) He also added wi-fi to a lot of public places, which pissed off some phone companies that were happy that people were gonna use a lot of 4G. Here's some of the stuff he did as mayor of SP: spressosp.com.br/2014/08/06/nao-sabe-o-q.. He didn't deliver on everything that he promised numbers wise, but take note that it was during the worst recession in the city's recent times And here's none other than João Dória saying Haddad is a honest man: youtube.com/watch?v=b61m4fdw6BE Also note that, among some of the reasons why he never got reelected - Dilma was being impeached at 2016. A million people dressed in yellow, saying it wasn't their fault because they voted in Aécio, were at the Paulista avenue blaming all of the country's problems in the PT, sponsored by the FIES. It's obvious a PT mayor would never get reelected, and Dória made sure to bet all his chips on that during his campaign (aceleraSP, etc). Now he just abandoned the mayor role to run for governor lol 4 - I don't think he's a nazi per se. When I use those two words to relate to bolsonaro or his supporters, I'm referring to the behaviour that's associated with those groups. There's a LOT of stuff that he said that can be considered authoritarian and people are starting to treat him like he's a fucking messiah. I don't remember lula or Dilma supporters spamming emojis and shit saying "it's the Mito time hahaha cry you direitopatas #L13 #D13" or putting their pictures as profile pics on facebook. People are starting to adore his image, and that is scary because it means they won't listen. Most importantly though, it's what I already wrote on 2. Ever watched movies like Die Welle or Fight Club? It's that same mob behaviour that has people become like animals, and forget to listen to reason because for them, there's only one thing that matters. And they're going after minorities. A game came out on steam this week called "Bolsomito 2k18" where you play as Bolsonaro and, among other things, kill gays ,blacks and left-wing politicians store.steampowered.com/app/930460/BOLSOM.. tecnoblog.net/263376/mp-investigacao-bol.. If all this isn't the start of something serious to you, I don't know what else do you need. 5 - I don't agree with some of it, but I tried to explain it in this other HLTV post hltv.org/forums/threads/1899484/roger-wa.. I like that he's taxing banks to decrease the interest rate - the PT had been going with some neoliberal policies for some time already and this is something that a government who wants to decrease social inequality should be doing. The debt of brazil, right now is 50% interest rate for banks, 30% previdencia social and only 20% goes to health, security, education etc, and that's the reason why so many people were protesting against the PEC 95 - It freezes investment for 20 years, fucking the majority of the national populace over whilst bankers keep their money intact whilst hoping their ridiculously high interest rates will eventually fix our economy. Now they've also recently adopted the Ciro Gomes SPC strategy (that they called Dívida Zero) - Helping 63kk people renegotiating their debts so they can eventually recover our economy by allowing people to spend money, and get money flowing so that john maynard keynes can rest easy on his grave
2018-10-12 01:37
1) yeah it rose from 47% to 51%... wow! But I was talking about 2002-2016, when NE GDP/capita went back to 47-48%. 2016 was a really harsh year for the region. oglobo.globo.com/economia/recessao-faz-e.. 2) About the girl: veja.abril.com.br/blog/rio-grande-do-sul.. About the capoeira master: oantagonista.com/tv/video-assassino-de-p.. You see, the Brazilian left is trying to create the same kind of hysteria that the American left did against Trump in the US. #hewillnotdivideus #elenao; "He is a fascist, a nazi, the personification of Hitler himself"... Guess what? After Trump's election, gays were not beaten to death, blacks were not hunged on a public demonstration, rape or hate crime has not increased... you see, you guys like to create fear, and fear is something very dangerous to deal, it leads to extremism (on both sides). 3) Haddad was a shit mayor, and yes, I am actually from SP. He fucked the entire road system of the city without a propper plan/study to develop things. He likes to state that he implemented lots of bus corridors, but little do you know that the city average bus speed remained almost the same, and that the average travel time of the city increased by more than 20 minutes/day during his term (that is a LOT!!). Bikes are not a good solution for public tranportation (I can school you on this if you want to pursue such path). 4) this is pure histerya from your side. STOP. (the game is clearly a meme). 5) Your first argument is ridiculous. You compare the stress of participating on a live debate with the stress of a recorded interview in his own house. Regarding PEC 95 I fail to understand how hard can be for someone like you to understand at least basic economics: you should not spend more than what you earn". If you, as a government do a good job, the revenue will increase and you will have more to spend on "saudecacao". Haddad copied Bolsonaro's proposal of increasing the tax exemption range for people earning up to 5k BRL a month. Guedes was already advocating for it a long time ago. Your lack of understanding of the PEC 95 surprises me, it does not freeze anything, it forces the government to be more cost-effective. Renegotiation of debts by creating more debts is never a good idea. Keynes should be removed from his grave and sent to space so we all can finally get rid of his outdated ideas.
2018-10-12 02:31
1) What do you mean 47 to 51? The pdf I linked clearly says an improvement of 33,6% when compared to the 2002 GDP/capita. As for 2016, of course there's going to be problems since we're facing the biggest recession in our history. I can't open the link since it says that I've read too much for free already but the subtitle says the GDP right now is smaller than it was at 2010 - Which is after the second Lula government, so it still suggests it improved from 2002-2010 I just hope you're not denying the improvements the PT government did for the northeast region. noticiasdepentecoste.com/2012/10/pra-aqu.. 2) Please, stop and think for a second, I know you're better than that. The man killed was a black capoeira master. The MURDERER who is being CHARGED and has the entire country's eyes on him says shit like that, and you're actually choosing to believe him intead of literally every other witness? Are you sure that's just not what you want to believe? 3) You asked for sources, I'd like to at least have sources that the bus travel times continued the same whilst the average travel times incrased. I also lived in São Paulo until 2016 and used public transport every day of my life, and after the bike paths came to be I used them during the weekends so I can tell you that a lot improved for me. I'm not saying he's perfect, but let's compare everything that he did in his political career vs everything Bolsonaro ever did in his political career, what does that tell you? Actually, what did bolsonaro EVER do in his life? Try to forbid the gay kit? That doesn't even exist for fuck sake 4) It is a meme. For most of HLTV, so is calling brazilians "monkeys". Don't you see that is the problem? We're banalizing some serious things. The game has bolsonaro get in a truck and run over people that have different political opinions than he does (other than gays and blacks, for fuck sake). What if there was a 1936 game in which Hitler got in a truck and started running over jews, gays and gypsies? Oh, does that all of a sudden feel wrong? Bolsonaro isn't Trump. Trump was always competent with money and the worst thing he ever said was "grab her by the pussy" and "build a wall to keep mexicans away". It doesn't even compare to "the dictatorship should've killed 30,000", "a policeman who doesn't kill isn't a policeman", "If I see a gay couple in the street I'll punch them", "If your son starts to get a little gay you should beat him a little bit", "My sons don't run that risk [of falling in love with a black woman] because they have been very well educated", etc. Worse of all, he's incompetent. LOL, what are we doing. As for the debates: oglobo.globo.com/brasil/bolsonaro-admite.. Still think it's just because his health won't allow it? Come on. 5) The problem is the they're limiting the spendings on things that are critical to the society for one or two decades whilst ignoring a huge part of our spendings that refer to the previdencia social. And the investment in public education is essential to decrease our social inequality. And postponing our public debts to banks will only break us because of the ridiculous interest rates involved youtube.com/watch?v=GnlGizdAzIg&t=1m33s Remember we live in a country where 80% of the populace does not have access health insurance, and health insurance companies sponsor several politician's campaigns which will in turn benefit them if public health remains shit oglobo.globo.com/brasil/doacoes-de-plano..
2018-10-12 19:12
1) I was talking about the GAP between the NE region and the Brazilian average. In 2002 NE gdp/capita represented 47% of the Brazilian average, and in 2016 the gap was still the same. Things were already improving in the region since FHC started with all stamp programs, do not be dishonest. 2) 1st of all, the killer was also black. Do not try to input racism here. 2nd, a murder is always a tragedy, people do not deserve to be killed, specially not for what they think or say. I hope that this guy rot in jail. Again... double standards... what do you think about the guy who stabbed Bolsonaro? His motivations were not political either? And one last thing on this subject, Bolsonaro's main flag is to fight against crime, which is by far one of the worst problems of our country. 3) viatrolebus.com.br/2016/04/velocidade-me.. (according to Haddad himself, the truth is far from this, he cherry picked the corridors and ignored the fact that the average speed of whole system went way down). sao-paulo.estadao.com.br/noticias/geral,.. -in the middle of the "worst recession ever", with more than 12% of unemployment rate (which means less people on streets during the rush hours) .folha.uol.com.br/poder/2018/09/haddad-d.. noticias.r7.com/eleicoes-2018/haddad-cum.. Bolsonaro proposed more than 600 bills >> camara.gov.br/internet/sileg/Prop_lista... 4) People who are on Steam are aware that the game is a meme, do not be naive. Bolsonaro, or his supporters, would never run a truck over people. Stop with this hysteria, it makes no sense at all. You are taking things out of the context. Things spoken long time ago under a very different scenario. Don't you believe in "descontrução"? I mean he was a very nationalistic guys (state wise) and now he is a libertarian. But yes, he said lots of stupid things, I just believe that he learned a lot in the past few years, and that is a good thing. 5) Come on, are you really trying to use CIRO GOMES as a source? The guy knows shit about economics, almost no one takes the crap that comes out of his mouth seriously, ( infomoney.com.br/blogs/economia-e-politi.. ). Again, PEC 95 does not limit it, it forces the government to be more cost-effective. Economics 101, the money has its price, and it is called interest. Funny thing is that it was Lula will all his "FORA FMI" bravado that put us in this situation. Regarding the "previdencia social", PT is totally against reforming it, how can we get out of a public deficit scenario without reforming it? Do you really believe that it is wise to spend more than what you earn? The health insurance part is pure tin foil hat bs.
2018-10-12 23:10
I'm not trying to put racism in the murder ffs - I'm just saying the killer's argument makes NO SENSE whatsoever since the victim was black The link you posted says the bus pathways 'haven't achieved their full expectations', not that 'it stayed the same thing'. If you do use public transportation in são paulo you can CLEARLY see the difference, and if nothing else, at least he tried improving things in several different ways as I listed before. He's a decent politician as far as I'm concerned, and far more competent than Bolsonaro with his 2/600 approved projects politica.estadao.com.br/noticias/geral,b.. I mean come on, you do really wanna deny that he's got far more experience than bolsonaro? Let me remind you we're talking about a law bachelor, master in economy and philosophy doctorate, minister of education under lula for 7 years and mayor of são paulo for 4 - vs a former army captain who got a dishonourable discharge for setting off an explosive and was a congressman for 26 years with 2 projects ever approved. Need any more proof? I just gave you the link that says he might not go to debates at all because he's scared to lose votes. If Haddad is just Lula's lunchbox and he's the less competent man here, what would bolsonaro have to fear? I just don't know what else to tell you in regards to wave of violence that's been going on coming from bolsonaro supporters. I'm not saying they would get in a truck and run over people, I'm saying it clearly shows hatred towards those specific groups (they turn into a pile of shit when killed lol, ffs) , which in turn leads to the wave of violence that is CLEARLY HAPPENING. I understand we can't take everything bolsonaro says literally (even though that's what groups such as the MBL to do ciro gomes to dissuade public opinion). Yes, because the public debt was actually paid under the Lula government (somewhere around 2006-2007) before shit went south. The banks need to be taxed - They have a ridiculous % of profit because we don't tax rich people for shit in this country ( nacoesunidas.org/brasil-e-paraiso-tribut.. ), and with the interest rates as they currently are it keeps our population without being able to buy shit. How is the health insurance part fake? I'm sourcing it for you. Look, we can sit here and throw links at each other all day. If the fact that Bolsonaro has publicly said that women should receive less money than men because they get pregnant, defends the military dictatorship to the point of paying tribute to a torturer, and the obviously surging wave of violence isn't enough for you to consider that he may not be the best choice for a president, we'll never get anywhere here and maybe our values are just different. Just remember killing people isn't a solution to crime, and I'm not saying that because I'm a peace and love humanitarian - If fighting fire with fire worked then I would be all for it. The problem is, we've been doing that for decades and it only increased the wave of violence. We've got 60k murders per year - Giving people easy access to guns will not improve that number, and being armed during a robbery does NOT make you safer. Just look at what happens to undercover or off duty cops when they get jumped. You can't use a gun if a robbery starts with someone pointing their gun at you, and as soon as they find out you're armed, you're dead.
2018-10-13 04:34
1) So why would you bring his skin color to the discussion then? Makes no sense at all. It was a tragedy. Hope that the murderer rot in jail. 2) The bus pathways created by him were mostly useless. Come on, I just sent you data showing that, during his term, the average travel time of the city increased by more than 20 minutes (the study includes public transportation). So, are you telling me that for being a good president you must have degrees and previous experience? Again, double standards, Lula had no degrees and no experience whatsoever prior to being elected. Or are you trying to tell me that he was a shit president? Common ground on that? Haddad 7 years ahead of our education, he did a good job? I could not say, but I honestly believe that the current state of the Brazilian public education tells us otherwise. He tried? ok, we can give him that. He tried and failed miserably, why should we give him another chance? You keep telling me that this guy is clean, and that he is respectable, but how can he be trustable if he represents a party that screwed our country? Also, Haddad has more than 30 criminal cases on his back (he is still answering for most of it). Regarding the debates, isn't this the same strategy adopted by Lula and Dilma in the past? It seems like a good move! 3) The wave of violence is coming from both sides, lots of reports of people being harassed or even beaten just because they were using a Bolsonaro t-shirt. Bolsonaro at least went on twitter and bashed people for doing it. +there are lots of fake reports. 4) Lula paid the debts that we had with international banks (the ones with a very low interest rate) and took loads of money from our Brazilian banks (with a higher interest rate). That is one of the reasons why banks profited so much from his policies. You must understand that there is a reason why interest rates reached such a high level in Brazil, and that this is directly linked to the way that Lula and Dilma conducted our economy (such as using the SELIC as a tool for controlling inflation). Again, economic 101, interest rates in Brazil are high because Brazilians are bad payers. High risk = high interest rates ( economia.estadao.com.br/noticias/geral,b.. ). A Wealth tax would mean something like +0.25-0.5 of our GDP, it would not fix shit. What really screws the poor is our ridiculous high consumption taxes. If you want to fix something, you should start with that. Again, you are taking things out of context (and this is even something that he has already apologized for). What he said in his past interviews is that, under the CLT, men and women must earn the same, it is already the law. If the law is not being followed, then the MPF should investigate it. You are misinformed about Bolsonaro's plan for security. Arming the population has never been the core of it. I recommend you watch this video, then you will understand a little bit more about how Bolsonaro plans to tackle violence: youtube.com/watch?v=ivgcCj-ra0Y (I would tell you to watch everything, but if you do not have the time, just look for the parts with general Heleno). 60k murders per year, that is what really kills gays, blacks, women, transgenders... and yet, Haddad proposals consists in public illumination and releasing criminals from jail... way to go! Look, I know that Bolsonaro is far from being perfect, but he is also not such a monster as the left is portraying him. I disagree with him on several points, but what I know for sure is that there is no way that we can fix our problems by voting for the ones who got us there in the first place.
2018-10-13 07:14
Because the killer's argument was that the victim called him 'preto viadinho', which makes no sense. The point is that you're choosing to believe the murderer's word to deny that it was a political crime. I gave you the link that says all he did as a mayor, how did he try and fail miserably? .folha.uol.com.br/poder/2018/09/como-pre.. I don't expect you to watch it but there's a very nice 25min documentary I remember watching in high school that talks about the origins of são paulo and how the city's plan for traffic was flawed from the start, as they opted for roads ahead of railways or waterways because they wanted to sell cars. We could have a NY-like train system as of right now youtube.com/watch?v=Fwh-cZfWNIc Haddad understood the issue and worked to fix it. And as our population grows in number, Dórias "aceleraSP" approach will prove to be flawed (if repeated by the next mayors). That's why I say that Haddad's government was treated unfairly. Next mayors might as well have to do the same. As for security, that's exactly the problem with it - More policemen in the street won't fix things in the long term, because crime will continue to happen and filling jails with poor black people won't stop crimes from happening - The exact opposite in fact, as they (as you can see with the northeastern jails that had mutinies) putting people in shitty conditions to live out the rest of their days won't stop the unjailed criminals from doing crimes, they'll only create more problems whilst the unjailed criminals will decide that dying whilst fighting cops (and killing cops while at it) is better than going to prison. Think of it as a tube that's leaking, putting more policemen in the streets and encouraging them to shoot to kill will only add more buckets to fill with water, whilst encouraging the justiça restaurativa (reintegrating criminals who did lesser crimes, giving them know-how so they can get jobs and a second chance at life) will tape the leakage and stop the water from flowing out of tube. The police is OBVIOUSLY necessary, no one's talking about giving flowers to murderers - But they're not the long term solution. Oh and by the way, do you know who profits from more policemen and more guns being on the street to fight against criminals? You got it right, the weapons manufacturers do tribunapr.com.br/noticias/politica/acoes.. And do you know who believes in restoring criminals and giving them 'cursos profissionalizantes' so they can be part of society instead of treating them like shit so they can get out of jail and go back to crime? Yeah, the best countries in the world do that and it works outraspalavras.net/blog/2014/01/08/priso.. <- Strongly recommend you read this Now, obviously brazil isn't sweden and we can't just implement that system here out of nowhere - But we have to start somewhere. And no, Haddad's plan for security isn't just about putting street lights, come on.
2018-10-13 17:13
1)Haddad on transportation: prntscr.com/l5oylu Main activity - from 1h43min to 2h01min all travels - from 2h15min to 2h58min Average time travel is by far the most important data on transportation. Haddad failed miserably on this. (2018, sao-paulo.estadao.com.br/noticias/geral,.. ) Haddad on health: .folha.uol.com.br/poder/2018/09/haddad-d.. Haddad on economics: g1.globo.com/sao-paulo/noticia/prefeitur.. Haddad was a shit mayor! 2) 60k deaths per year. Long term solution? Education, especially on elementary/middle years, which is exactly what Bolsonaro plans to do (inversão da piramide da educação). Short term solution (60k murders/year, we need short term solutions)? Combating violence by tackling the organized crime. Our jails are overcrowded? No worries build some more (we should, overcrowded prisons are part of the problem, the PT governments overlooked this issue for way too long). You see, in Brazil, no one goes to jail for stealing food or things like that. We have something called "audiência de custódia", have you ever heard about it? 99% of our inmates are on prison for trafficking (not for 1g of weed) or armed robbery. If you think that someone who pulled a gun and threated the life of someone else should be on the streets, I guess that we indeed have different moral standards. 3)Are you aware that recovery programs, such as offering "cursos profissionalizantes", often fail in Brazil simply because the inmates have no interest whatsoever in taking part of it? Come on, you can't, or at least, should not compare our reality with the Swedish one, this is pure bs. We have no money for doing it, and we do not have the raw data on our side. Sweden has something like 100 murders a year. To be able to achieve such levels, we must first reduce our criminality. (short- and long-term solutions, combined). Yeah, Haddad's plan for security is not just about putting street lights, it is also about releasing convicted criminals from jail. prntscr.com/l5pfwx
2018-10-13 20:10
#204
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Brazil VAC0 
WTF!!!! Kim Kataguiri bad guy????
2018-10-15 00:59
Imagine being so brainless to the point where you're on the side that has got Alexandre Frota and Edir Macedo whilst we've got Eric Cantona, Gilberto Gil, Milton Nascimento and Roger Waters Worst of all, actually believing you're right while at it. Wow. It's H13, you zombie fucks
2018-10-11 05:06
#148
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Japan Getp0x0st 
chupa de puta
2018-10-12 05:54
#169
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Other flynttt 
wow
2018-10-12 23:08
B17
2018-10-11 11:21
#120
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Poland MAGA2020 
US late night shows now trying to go international with their propaganda, i see
2018-10-11 19:01
#121
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Portugal NabasKi 
how bad are those? what do they want to do?
2018-10-11 19:03
#173
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Brazil P4uloVisk 
I do not have time to be discussing politics, especially when it comes to a candidate Police (bolsonaro) X thief (Haddad). it seems obvious the answer! bolsonaro 2018
2018-10-13 01:48
H13 4SURE!
2018-10-11 19:04
13 memo.
2018-10-11 19:07
#125
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Brazil NoNation 
#StayTemer
2018-10-11 19:40
#147
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Japan Getp0x0st 
teo lixo
2018-10-12 05:51
#126
trk | 
Brazil rmarques 
youtube.com/watch?v=b8o2Lff06do&t=40s Roger Waters (Pink Floyd) gets booed after the #EleNao (Not Him) against Bolsonaro.
2018-10-11 22:23
#205
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Brazil VAC0 
He's an ignoramus or hypocrite ... he had no Maduro on the list. Roger Waters covered a dictatorship that generated a humanitarian crisis where almost 3 million left the country fleeing poverty. (10% of the population). They are eating rats and street dogs. Here comes a rich man making a protest against Trump ... Roger Waters, fuck you !!!
2018-10-15 01:06
B17. Basta ver como reage a bolsa de valores a cada pesquisa eleitoral. Apoiei o PT quando me pareciam realmente estar do lado dos trabalhadores. Hoje, no more.
2018-10-11 22:34
#138
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Portugal DOUTROMUNDO 
Not only they are not on the workers side, but PT completly robbed Brazil , thats deplorable.
2018-10-11 23:36
#132
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Portugal DOUTROMUNDO 
B17, Brazil cant stand 4 more years of socialism, if Haddad wins Brazil will be a giant Venezuela #Jairoujaera.
2018-10-11 22:40
#139
trk | 
Brazil rmarques 
+1
2018-10-11 23:44
#152
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Brazil Collee 
+1
2018-10-12 05:58
#134
trk | 
Brazil rmarques 
My dear brazilians, watch this! youtube.com/watch?v=f9Y3Hj703SI
2018-10-11 23:29
#135
liTTle | 
CIS Dowa) 
H13
2018-10-11 23:30
#136
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Czech Republic Pee_Tea 
H13 as any other reasonable person
2018-10-11 23:30
#142
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Brazil deftt 
h13 by far os bolsominions tentando convencer os gringo hahahaha
2018-10-12 02:41
#146
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Japan Getp0x0st 
chupa de puta haddad lixo
2018-10-12 05:51
#150
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Brazil IguiN 
#MarmitadeBandido
2018-10-12 05:57
#206
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Brazil VAC0 
The American media is against Trump ... the problem is that they do not know about our alternative ... that is the communist misery with the same model of Venezuela. Basically they are all a copy of Roger Waters. Hypocrites
2018-10-15 01:12
Haddad is literally an ancient Jewish surname
2018-10-12 05:27
#145
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Brazil hugoooo 
Out of my 28 years: obviously B17.
2018-10-12 05:50
#149
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Brazil IguiN 
B17
2018-10-12 05:56
B17
2018-10-12 05:59
#157
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Brazil herickbruno3 
B17 CARALHOOOOOOOOOO
2018-10-12 06:20
b17
2018-10-12 19:55
dude this nick wtf
2018-10-14 02:39
#168
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Other flynttt 
i prefer that u take out my arm and stuck it in my ass then chose one of this retardeds
2018-10-12 23:06
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA but you're a commie, flynttt.
2018-10-14 02:40
#192
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Other flynttt 
no?
2018-10-14 15:24
0/8 esquerdalha.
2018-10-14 20:58
#195
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Other flynttt 
nt braindead minion
2018-10-15 00:12
nt flynttt viado, btw when you said ".... and stuck it in my ass" i imaginated your peludo ass LUL disgusting
2018-10-15 00:38
#172
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Brazil P4uloVisk 
I do not have time to be discussing politics, especially when it comes to a candidate Police (bolsonaro) X thief (Haddad). it seems obvious the answer! bolsonaro 2018
2018-10-13 01:47
17 17 17 17 17
2018-10-13 01:51
#176
tarik | 
Brazil Flepo 
Both are so fucking shit We are so fucked, neo-nazi vs a fucking thief we dont have any hope for this country.
2018-10-13 01:58
13 go
2018-10-13 02:08
fuck bosoro lol
2018-10-14 21:15
Like pinochet, he will kill all vermins.
2018-10-15 00:38
Both options have the same level of authority. They both presented themselves as someone that would overcome constitution or judiciary and now both sides stood back from that shit.
2018-10-15 00:22
B17
2018-10-15 00:24
17 17 17 17 17 17
2018-10-15 00:27
ez for bolzonar
2018-10-15 00:40
#203
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Brazil VAC0 
Bolsonaro is harmless ... but is suffering from media attacks and the interest of large corporations in Brazil that rely on government money. Americans do not understand that Brazil financed dictatorships with corruption schemes that have not yet been investigated (BNDS Bank). Defenders of communism are divided into 2 groups: Hypocrites (rich people living with the best of capitalism) and Miserables (depend directly on the government and vote for fear of losing benefits just like in Venezuela)
2018-10-15 00:57
B17.
2018-10-15 01:30
divulgacandcontas.tse.jus.br/candidatura.. take a look for what people are voting, LOL. it looks like my home work from 4 years ago lmao
2018-10-15 05:11
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