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Snax performance
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World _EpiC_ 
Do you get the same impression that Orgs are too fast to change rosters? Look at Snax he played 63 maps only with average rating 1.00. How long do you think it takes to create chemistry between players? I mean it's becoming ridiculous in E-sports every 50 maps there's a shuffle in rosters. Makes no sense to me.
2018-10-12 10:21
He has sub 1.00 rating
2018-10-12 10:22
#2
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World _EpiC_ 
pardon?
2018-10-12 10:23
"Snax statistics past 3 months: Rating 2.0: 0.98"
2018-10-12 10:24
Thats below 1 if you struggle with maths
2018-10-12 10:25
#7
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World _EpiC_ 
I did the efford of copying all maps from his matches with mouz and taking average.
2018-10-12 10:25
Just look at his statistics, no need to overcomplicate things. Fact of the matter is that he did not nearly provide the fire power Mouz wanted with the "upgrade" and he can't play support or communicate as well as Styko. I think after a couple months and a fluke win that perhaps bought him some time, they realise how much Styko brought to the team.
2018-10-12 10:27
#16
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World _EpiC_ 
I still think he needs more time. Not just him, all players need more time in their teams. Especially those mix teams not speaking in mother tongue.
2018-10-12 10:28
Snax has lost his form as an individual player, and that's not something you just regain all of a sudden. At the sime time he can't and doesn't want to play a support role. Styko can frag just as well, holds small-sites much better, and as stated by the rest of Mouz, Styko brought a lot to the communication as he often spoke for other players, and helped bridge the gap that international teams make in terms of communication.
2018-10-12 10:32
#23
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World _EpiC_ 
yes but he wasn't fraggin either. I bet Snax is not playing freestyle in Mouz, he plays where Chris puts him
2018-10-12 10:35
Then why are they top4 now and with styko not even top10? I agree snax has really bad stats but styko wasn't the upgrade they need either
2018-10-12 11:30
Tf u talking about? Mouz reached top2 hltv earlier.. When faze were top1
2018-10-12 11:36
Bruh u dumb? Mouz were winning regularly with Styko, earlier this year they won Starseries and V4. While they had a nice win with Snax at ESL NY, otherwise, his performance, as well ast the team, has been shit. They bombed out of the major, as well as esl one cologne. With Styko they were constistently placing top 4.
2018-10-12 13:13
The correct stat for last 3 months is 0.95. And he played a few games before 3 months for mouz which was terrible so I rounded it to 0.94. Keep in mind that online stats do not count. It is on lan that you show off your sponsors on your jersey and battle for prize money.
2018-10-12 10:27
Exactly
2018-10-12 10:29
#21
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World _EpiC_ 
No. First map in Mouse he played vs Gambit on the 7th of July thats 1.0048 average rating 2.0 KD ratio stands at -62 kills.
2018-10-12 10:33
He played 6 maps for mouz that are outside his last 3 months statistics. In those 6 maps he had 0.955 rating.
2018-10-12 11:29
#22
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World _EpiC_ 
Of course it counts. That's a stupid statement.
2018-10-12 10:34
No it doesn't count. Hltv never counts online stats in their rising / falling player statistics. And they have never included a single online stat in their yearly top 20 player list. The only person who counts online games is you
2018-10-12 11:24
#38
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World _EpiC_ 
you can't ignore his online performance when the subject is "how well snax is doing in new roster".
2018-10-12 11:25
Of course you can, because you don't show off your sponsors and you don't compete for prize money in online games. His online games don't matter
2018-10-12 11:28
Correct. He has 0.94 which is terrible. Let's hope styko is still motivated to play well for mouz
2018-10-12 10:25
No doubt he is. He has earlier stated that he would go back to Mouz if they ask him, and most importantly, no one likes being benched. As evidenced by him moving to NA to play for Cloud9, he will take any choice he gets.
2018-10-12 10:29
yea i think someone needs to stop this or make rules at least
2018-10-12 10:24
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Turkey FrosTPunK 
We need krimz or chrisj to replace karrigan so faze > asstralis
2018-10-12 10:25
#57
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Ukraine d1m1tr1 
hahaha "we" father axaxaxaxa
2018-10-13 15:55
#9
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World _EpiC_ 
Do you think imposing some sort of universal transfer period is even possible in esports? I doubt
2018-10-12 10:25
not like that cause there is no 3 months break in esport maybe when u change roster u must play with that roster 3 months might be works
2018-10-12 10:27
#4
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Australia BohemianJerry 
Are u serious? The guy played like 6 months and they only had bad results in all tournaments. 0-3 in major? Mous without Snax are supposed to play at least at legends stage lmao
2018-10-12 10:24
#12
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World _EpiC_ 
I really don't understand what people's expectations are. You get new player and you become best team in the world? They won ESL ONE NY which is already a big step forward. How long it took Astralis to create all strats ? remember what Glaive said, they have 1 or 2 fakes for each strategy.
2018-10-12 10:27
#24
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Australia BohemianJerry 
Man, when you change a player, in this case, a very experience and knowing, you expect to improve. Before snax they goes like an all year always to playoffs, semis or finals basically, and rn they are patectic, losing to tier2 easily
2018-10-12 10:35
#25
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World _EpiC_ 
Keep in mind the price they paid for him ;)
2018-10-12 10:35
#29
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Australia BohemianJerry 
Yes, any org can buy out and was never about the price tho, no one wants to play to lose.
2018-10-12 10:47
#31
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Germany keko0o0o0 
esl one ny was a fluke bro - since they have snax, they perfom like shit.
2018-10-12 10:50
not fluke just choke by Liquid in final
2018-10-13 16:22
I just think that his style is outdated. His game revolves around being agressive pushes and plays around smokes but it only works if your individual skill is at extremely high level and obviously snax is far from that.
2018-10-12 10:26
#46
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Slovakia S1W0 
Yep he Has to switch style its just predictable
2018-10-12 11:35
I agree 100% and mouz had pretty good results. they are not consistent, and its going up and down, but changing the roster after 4 months is stupid imo its like in football when a team fires the coach after 5 consecutive losses
2018-10-12 10:36
#26
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World _EpiC_ 
exactly my point
2018-10-12 10:36
they are playing together long enough to judge if its gonna work @ the long run, and obviously the players are not believing in SNAX. sometimes the chemistry and roles in a team are fucked, even when every single player is good
2018-10-12 10:42
twitter.com/Thooorin/status/105029438469.. thooorin compared Snax's performance to TACO's. TACO is just a support player with entry role on some maps, while Snax has more space and freedom to get frags. In those circumstances Snax gets the same amount of frags & impact as a support player who is going to die 1st and open space for re-frag. Ex VP player is washed up like his ex teammates. Mouz made mistake by benching STYKO but at that time they did it, it was necessary to get better. They got the wrong one. With current meta, STYKO is the right option. Rollback to your 'best performance time' lineup.
2018-10-12 10:44
#30
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Sweden plikz 
this is so true but snax is trash so he deserved to be kicked
2018-10-12 10:47
#32
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Russia NOD777 
All VP players are piece of shit. No matter how long you’ll wait for chemistry
2018-10-12 10:53
#34
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India editz10 
Lul ruski saying about shit xaxxxaxa
2018-10-12 11:08
#52
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Russia NOD777 
1 billion in poverty says
2018-10-12 12:06
#53
Snax | 
India editz10 
Hahhaa cry
2018-10-12 12:07
#54
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Russia NOD777 
Internet support service. How can i help? xDddd
2018-10-12 12:09
#33
Snax | 
India editz10 
1St snax not support player he just like sunny push and kill and he good with awp And 3 month not enough
2018-10-12 11:07
snax in Mouz was doomed to fail. They replaced a support player who had a big part of the teams communication with a player who used to play as a star. snax had to put up much better numbers if the team was going to work out because they lost out so much on the team part of the game because after styko's departure they had no one to setup their stars and take care of all the bad roles in the team. I think Mouz realised that kicking styko was a mistake, that their setup as a team and chemistry became much worse. They were naive and thought an improved fragger would make the team better when they already hit their potential as a team.
2018-10-12 11:08
#36
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India editz10 
Same like MIbR cold want taco and botskar want styko But mibr have brain and mouz brain dead
2018-10-12 11:14
#42
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Turkey Thunderball 
He was utterly trash. It was a dumb move at the first place just mous noticed it a bit lately ..
2018-10-12 11:31
#43
Zeus | 
Russia zonic_god 
even 2 months are quite enough to adapt, so this kick is definitely deserved I think
2018-10-12 11:33
#44
ropz | 
China seekerNN 
feel bad for ropz, a talent could be top20 player now in this shit team
2018-10-12 11:33
#58
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United Kingdom Hamshanks 
Hes not even been their second best player haahha
2018-10-13 16:10
well, you either perform or you don't and that's what matters
2018-10-12 11:34
Yeah, they sucked in Kiev, but they freaking won New York. They won against Fnatic, Gambit, NRG and Liquid and got $125,000 If I were mouz, I would let this roster play in Moscow (EPICENTER) and IEM Chicago to see how they are doing. Then they might change their roster for 2019.
2018-10-12 11:35
Well guess it won't happen because they must play minors for Katowice and they're not in form where can make it.
2018-10-13 16:30
they beat Liquid in a BO5 and want to change... idiots
2018-10-12 11:39
well 1. Liquid chocked rlly hard and mouz did nice and solid comeback 2. when you're top 4th team in the world you should not go 0-3 in major 3. going from 2-0 to 2-3 in t2 event where you're the favorite to win whole thing you surely know smt is not going as it should 4. snax is good guy but not as legendary as in past if he wasnt meant to be he wasnt meant to be replaced he would have to topfragg every match
2018-10-13 16:42
beating Liquid in a BO5 is impressive no matter what and its the biggest event this original 4 had won together. If they bring back Styko nothing improves, hes just not at that level. All the Tier 1 teams walk over them again. I am not sure what they are expecting with a guy whos just starting calling in English. At least MIBR have braincells and know its a work in progess
2018-10-13 18:03
#50
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Ukraine mple 
Stopped reading at "E-sports"
2018-10-12 11:41
#55
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France uNLmofo 
it is all about the feeling we have and most of all that the team has. We can see Snax is always playing alone, miss all cluthces, he has no impact and is having a good rating when other players carry the game and he can get kills easy. I just feel he doesnt fit in Mouse, maybe in another team.
2018-10-12 12:43
I think the best solution would be NBK. I think mouz wanted him after Belo Horizonte but he refused believing in another new french team. what a shame
2018-10-13 16:46
#64
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Denmark baitzera 
Magisk didn't need that much time to start perform with Astralis, and he isn't as highly rated as Snax. Snax is highly overrated though. Two years ago he often succeeded with his gimmicky play, but that will not work in the long run, and his aim has never been anything special. Mousesports should never had picked him up in the first place.
2018-10-13 18:09
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