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TOP 20 of the year atm
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United States IFisico 
1-5: Dupreeh device s1mple electronic NiKo (Not in order, the same below) 6-10: Magisk NAF Twistzz coldzera Krimz 11-15: Xyp9x gla1ve oskar sunny GuardiaN 16-20: Autimatic tarik ropz flamie EliGE
2018-10-13 03:56
i can agree, but swap krimz and gla1ve i guess
2018-10-13 03:59
Fallen>>>Krimz
2018-10-13 04:52
#44
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United Kingdom Hamshanks 
0/8
2018-10-13 16:08
#180
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Brazil P4uloVisk 
1-S1mple,2device,3coldzera,4eletronic,5niko,6fallen 7dupree,8magisk,9Elige,10Naf,11Oskar,12Fer,13guardian,14sunny15twistzz,16Rain,17Tarik,18ropz,19gla1ve20chrisj 21-KSCERAAAATOOO mibr major Boston top3,4 mibr major london top3,4
2018-10-16 18:56
#188
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United Kingdom Hamshanks 
Delusional
2018-10-16 19:02
#189
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Brazil P4uloVisk 
krimz delusional
2018-10-17 22:45
#51
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France FanchD 
LMAO
2018-10-13 16:47
#77
ZywOo | 
Poland qube1 
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2018-10-13 19:29
hahahavavavaavaha
2018-10-13 22:34
#123
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Portugal fatheroffive 
banana?!
2018-10-13 23:03
#124
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Finland sakumaybE 
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2018-10-13 23:04
#158
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United States Acehavok 
Have you seen him lately? Dude doesn't even belong in the top 30
2018-10-16 07:49
OMEGALUL
2018-10-16 07:53
#37
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Brazil NubBaiter 
i can agree but swap simple and flamie
2018-10-13 15:48
-1/8
2018-10-13 15:55
Name checks out
2018-10-16 06:47
#60
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Sweden Zolity 
No lol
2018-10-13 18:48
magisk top 5 no electronic
2018-10-13 04:00
#4
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Sweden GATER 
Lol no Electronic>>>magisk
2018-10-13 04:08
plus one
2018-10-13 04:41
hard to admit because I'm a hardcore astralis fan
2018-10-13 04:42
#110
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Denmark Twick_ 
I agree completely yes?
2018-10-13 22:31
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Twistzz | 
North America Qu1rrel 
electronic way more impactful than magisk right now
2018-10-13 04:17
Bcs of system Magisk dont need to carry If he must he will, just compare his roles in North and now
2018-10-13 22:59
electronic > magisk
2018-10-13 04:37
+1 but they are close
2018-10-13 19:34
No
2018-10-13 20:30
They are, not that close tho
2018-10-13 22:28
Would I rather take electronic who carried flip side to a few major new ledgend stages or magisk who is only relavent since be went to astralis and is put in a position to get kills and couldn’t do anything before he joined the best team in the worls
2018-10-13 22:57
Bad bait. See magisk north
2018-10-13 23:00
They did nothing more than flip side but with 2 good players(magisk and ion fight) rather than just 1 (electronic)
2018-10-14 08:01
Are you retarded man to compare top5-6 team achievments and top2 team achievments? Team is 5 players not 1. Pls do not tell me that nobody from t2>styko for example. You can just look at magisc stats in north not achievments.
2018-10-14 12:14
Magisk plays half support he isnt set up to get kills
2018-10-13 23:01
He was in north and he did nothing
2018-10-14 08:01
Over a year ago doesnt matter when are talking about now
2018-10-14 08:49
We talkin 2018 read the topic again
2018-10-14 09:04
Right now, performance wise they are close, not that close though, it's noticeably easy to see electronic > Magisk
2018-10-14 08:17
Magisk 2016> magisk 2018 So what are you talking about?
2018-10-14 12:15
Yes and?
2018-10-14 13:17
you say elec2018 > magisk2018 i say elec2018 = magisk2016
2018-10-14 20:54
Why is 2016 relevant to this lmao, we are talking if this year electronic is better than Magisk
2018-10-14 20:55
we talk about magisc roles you cant compare players in such differents team you can swap them now and nothing will be changed
2018-10-14 20:58
#3
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Denmark Mah1 
Astralis the first team with all 5 players in top-20
2018-10-13 04:01
ok newfag
2018-10-13 04:15
no 100 percent true at least in csgo every top team had deadweight fifflaren pronax taco
2018-10-13 04:17
yeah, I am not talking about this. I am talking that he is a new fag on hltv chat.
2018-10-13 04:18
pronax deadweight pick 1
2018-10-13 19:28
As a fragger he is pure deadweight
2018-10-13 19:35
Deadweight reminded me of Deadfox, I guess they are related though.
2018-10-13 20:34
funny how all of these players made their team great. ''deadweight'' LUL
2018-10-13 19:40
You are literally retarded you know what i am saying and no fifflaren did not do too much for his team
2018-10-13 22:06
fifflaren was the reason the team worked out, they had a amazing chemistry with him
2018-10-14 13:35
#169
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United Kingdom Gio_bose 
Taco dead weight I think you are mistaken
2018-10-16 13:25
#39
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Indonesia linekerrr 
Id 1016596 talking about newfag LUL
2018-10-13 15:51
#45
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Indonesia linekerrr 
and can you say without a doubt that he doesn't have previous accounts? For all I know those accounts weren't yours to begin with rofl, regardless of their names.
2018-10-13 16:12
btw I guess that you have some read problems hltv.org/forums/threads/1900796/top-20-o..
2018-10-13 16:12
#47
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Indonesia linekerrr 
why are you under the assumption that I had read another set of comments?
2018-10-13 16:19
#74
ceh9 | 
Kyrgyzstan NeaRipS 
Ok newfag
2018-10-13 19:25
not every stralis player will be top 20
2018-10-13 22:35
#5
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Brazil oneS2 
no stewie?
2018-10-13 04:12
not a chance he makes it
2018-10-13 04:16
why would stewie make it?
2018-10-13 04:17
glaive > twistzz glaive > krimz glaive > cold
2018-10-13 04:12
Not in rating
2018-10-13 04:21
hltv.org/stats/players/compare/7412/gla1.. yes and it gets even better hltv.org/stats/players/compare/7412/gla1.. only cold has better stats hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2018-01.. glaive performs better against top comp
2018-10-13 04:26
#23
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United States IFisico 
I dont think gla1ve's ranking could be higher than cold and krimz, though he still has a decent chance to enter the top 10.
2018-10-13 04:50
better stats and top 5 against top 5 teams he will definitely be top 10
2018-10-13 05:00
gla1ve will be before cold, krimz and twistzz. its pretty obvious...
2018-10-13 15:53
#177
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Brazil P4uloVisk 
mibr top3,4 major boston and london : cold >gla1ve Cold>krimz Cold>twistzz
2018-10-16 18:51
astralis won major + another xyz big events so why did you even bring achievments as an argument here rofl? cold can be before krimz and twistzz, i agree with that but he wont be before gla1ve for sure. you will see yourself
2018-10-16 18:56
#183
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Brazil P4uloVisk 
ok
2018-10-16 18:58
I agree with twistzz for sure and if he gets the upper hand on cold and krimz it will be because of achievements so yes it could happen but its not all about having a slightly better rating at big events and performance against a top5 teams. Would be nice if there would be a filter for group stages and playoffs (could give us grand finals too), that would give us much better insight on the rankings (f.e. Fallen didnt have that good stats last year but was very high since he was like 10000 times better in the playoffs and high pressure games than he was in the group stages)
2018-10-13 16:45
yea would be nice to see stats like you said...for example s1mple wasnt even in top10 players in play offs(rating wise).
2018-10-13 16:53
#176
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Brazil P4uloVisk 
mibr top3,4 major boston and mibr top3,4 major london : coldzera,fallen and ferGOD top 20 of corse
2018-10-16 18:50
wtf
2018-10-16 19:00
#58
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United States Jammin800k 
I agree with you that gla1ve should be above twistzz and krimz only by 1 or 2 spots but still above them. However that is mainly due to achievements and EVPs, check the impact ratings on those players you compared
2018-10-13 17:00
Cold , whatever he Played was against tier 3-4 teams lol
2018-10-14 09:07
#175
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Brazil P4uloVisk 
1-S1mple,2device,3coldzera,4eletronic,5niko,6fallen 7dupree,8magisk,9Elige,10Naf,11Oskar,12Fer,13guardian,14sunny15twistzz,16Rain,17Tarik,18ropz,19gla1ve20chrisj 21-KSCERAAAATOOO mibr major Boston top3,4 mibr major london top3,4
2018-10-16 18:46
Krimz and cold ok But no no no, not twistzzz
2018-10-13 19:35
Twistzz has been amazing for like three months Gla1ve has better stats and more titles
2018-10-13 22:07
Eh maybe then
2018-10-13 22:31
+1
2018-10-13 20:27
simple device niko electronic dupreeh magisk naf gla1ve guardian cold krimz twistzz sunny oskar xyp9x your 16-20
2018-10-13 04:23
#16
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Canada Timings 
Do you really think NiKo will get third place? I mean he has some good plays and high statistics but I believe he will end up among the 5th-7th spot.
2018-10-13 04:25
i do believe that though i can see him dropping to 5th
2018-10-13 04:28
#28
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Canada Timings 
Yeah, probably depends on his performance rest of the year.
2018-10-13 05:12
He was way too dominant as a top3 player this year. I cant see him dropping from this spot. The only case would be that he would start playing like MSL and the rest would need to have device/s1mple level stats
2018-10-13 16:52
#128
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Canada Timings 
All players from Astralis has been so crucial so I don't know if he will get that third spot even if he plays decent.
2018-10-14 03:49
Yup, they are but on hltv its based on stats a lot + achievements, he doesnt have that much achievements compared to them but the only one really close (more likely equal) to him performance-wise is device and recently dupreeh but it would be hard for him to get to his level in 1 and half month. And that 3rd spot is deserved, exactly where he should be imo
2018-10-14 11:34
i really doubt s1mple will be #1, astralis had a waaaaay better year and that counts too
2018-10-13 19:42
I can device taking the number 1 spot but i dont think he deserves it at least not yet that is
2018-10-13 22:45
Believe me kennyS will join the list
2018-10-14 09:08
#15
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Canada Timings 
Pretty accurate list actually, but the one I think should be replaced is probably Flamie. Na'Vi have been really good this year and sure Flamie is a big part of it and sure he could get top 20 but if I would guess that one of these players wouldn't make it into the top 20 it would be Flamie. Tarik was really good when he was in Cloud9 but since he left I haven't seen any top 20 player quality by him. Of course it is hard to join a new team but he could also miss out on the top 20, just barely.
2018-10-13 04:23
What are you talking about? He was at 2 first months after his team sucked, thats all, unluko maluko
2018-10-14 12:17
I mean good
2018-10-14 12:18
#147
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Canada Timings 
Who are you talking about? You need to be more specific when I wrote about many players lol. Because I have no clue what you're talking about.
2018-10-14 14:58
TARIK
2018-10-14 20:53
#22
CeRq | 
Austria donnie_ 
Autimatic tarik ropz flamie EliGE > Guardian
2018-10-13 04:46
#24
shox | 
India iejesus 
Niko omegalul
2018-10-13 04:51
NAF 6-10 ELiGE 16-20 AHAHAHAHAHHAHA
2018-10-13 05:00
#29
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Canada Timings 
NAF has probably had a better year than EliGE, what's your deal?
2018-10-13 05:13
#30
f0rest | 
Europe facecs 
lul automatic and not f0rest lullulululu rattttt
2018-10-13 12:34
f0rest wont be in top20 at all lol...
2018-10-13 12:58
#35
f0rest | 
Europe facecs 
than automatic not even in top100
2018-10-13 15:43
braindead
2018-10-13 15:45
braindead
2018-10-13 15:49
#59
f0rest | 
Europe facecs 
braindead
2018-10-13 18:47
you clearly are but you already proved it so whatever
2018-10-13 18:50
#66
f0rest | 
Europe facecs 
you clearly are but you already proved it so whatever
2018-10-13 19:14
ahah mad f0rest fangirl. enjoy top20 without your idol lul
2018-10-13 19:16
#68
f0rest | 
Europe facecs 
hahah lul
2018-10-13 19:16
yea exatly. f0rest in 2018 - lul
2018-10-13 19:17
#71
f0rest | 
Europe facecs 
hehe lul f0rest in 2018
2018-10-13 19:17
exactly, OMEGALUL
2018-10-13 19:24
#91
f0rest | 
Europe facecs 
omg earth
2018-10-13 19:57
Lmao, as a NiP fan, there is no way f0rest is better than auti this year
2018-10-13 19:36
#90
f0rest | 
Europe facecs 
lul watch the stats stfu
2018-10-13 19:57
#100
f0rest | 
Europe facecs 
luul agasint who playd automatic hes team is not even in top 20 he plays shit teams in past 3 months he had mad 10 matches and forest plays 4-5 maps per weak
2018-10-13 21:00
0/8
2018-10-13 22:28
#101
f0rest | 
Europe facecs 
omg you campair mesi vs morata lul
2018-10-13 21:01
0/8 8 maps played
2018-10-13 22:27
gla1ve will be before krimz, cold and twistzz without a doubt
2018-10-13 12:58
#33
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Israel unsolid 
Autimatic and flamie not top 20, and swap krimz with gla1ve imo
2018-10-13 13:00
#34
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Russia VeryChokeGuy 
No, NiKo top 6 at max.
2018-10-13 13:00
+Stewie2K -autimatic
2018-10-13 15:56
lulz hahaha
2018-10-13 19:28
#49
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Finland Vkims 
No ropz in top20 and with oskar its 50/50 if he is in top20
2018-10-13 16:23
#57
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United States Jammin800k 
Oskar is 100% in top 20 and so is ropz hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2018-01.. 11th and 13th at big events statistically, there is no possible way you can name 20 players more deserving than oskar and ropz
2018-10-13 16:54
#78
suNny | 
Czech Republic y0fl0w 
this, it will be basically the top20 big events with some up and downs due to mvps, evps and team achievments.
2018-10-13 19:30
#135
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United States Jammin800k 
Yep astralis players will be boosted obviously players like autimatic and cold will be lower for low success
2018-10-14 09:03
#174
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Brazil P4uloVisk 
1-S1mple,2device,3coldzera,4eletronic,5niko,6fallen 7dupree,8magisk,9Elige,10Naf,11Oskar,12Fer,13guardian,14sunny15twistzz,16Rain,17Tarik,18ropz,19gla1ve20chrisj 21-KSCERAAAATOOO mibr major Boston top3,4 mibr major london top3,4
2018-10-16 18:41
#184
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United States Jammin800k 
Not even going to entertain this list lol
2018-10-16 18:58
#185
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Brazil P4uloVisk 
Tarik win major Boston and top3,4 major london
2018-10-16 18:59
#52
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Russia deadforest 
>of the year atm
2018-10-13 16:48
Flamie LMAO
2018-10-13 16:49
#54
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United States Jammin800k 
Cold isnt top 10 gla1ve is, other than that it looks pretty good
2018-10-13 16:52
#159
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United States Acehavok 
Twistzz>Dupreeh, any day
2018-10-16 07:52
#170
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United States Jammin800k 
Not based on stats, not based on EVPs or MVPs, not based on achievements. 0/8
2018-10-16 18:02
wouldnt even surprise me if device gets #1 u already know
2018-10-13 18:51
swap twistzz and niko swap gla1ve and magisk
2018-10-13 18:52
Coldzera in top 10 LMAO
2018-10-13 18:52
also i think chrisj will make top20, solid year so far
2018-10-13 18:53
#69
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United Kingdom Weslleyy5 
This is the best top 20 list I've seen on hltv, the only thing I would change would be Krimz for Oskar
2018-10-13 19:16
#98
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Europe p1peb0mb 
2018-10-13 20:36
#154
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United Kingdom Weslleyy5 
it isn't just dependent on stats, tournaments placings and impact kills matter too
2018-10-15 22:05
#155
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Europe p1peb0mb 
tournament placing don't matter. evps matter. otherwise taco and pronax would have been in top 20 too. ratings and impact on playoffs matter for evps/mvps. here krimz has more ratings and 3-4 big event evps. also have a small event mvp. same as oskar. since krimz > oskar n ratings, krimz will be above him.
2018-10-16 06:45
#161
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United States Acehavok 
Placings matter a fuck ton. If they didn't Niko and Simple would've been top 3 every year since 2015.
2018-10-16 07:54
#165
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Europe p1peb0mb 
well s1mple was top 3 in 2016 because of many mvp/evps. niko didn't have that during 2016.hence he was not in top10 then. to get mvp/evps. a player needs to reach reach playoffs only since playoffs ratings are very important than group stage ratings . all remaining depends on rating of the player. A player need extremely high rating around 1.30 if that he goes out in quarters,around 1.20 for semi and 1.10 or 1.15 above after finals. ex: krimz had 1.29 rating on Eleague major when they go out in quarters,he had 1.22 rating on Marseille. Lekro had only 1.14 rating on Katowice. Everytime those players got evps. So a player will get evp even if they go out in quarters if that player has extremely high ratings.As they progress to finals,that player don't need that high ratings to get evp.So its more about performance that placings.
2018-10-16 08:09
#173
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Brazil P4uloVisk 
1-S1mple,2device,3coldzera,4eletronic,5niko,6fallen 7dupree,8magisk,9Elige,10Naf,11Oskar,12Fer,13guardian,14sunny15twistzz,16Rain,17Tarik,18ropz,19gla1ve20chrisj 21-KSCERAAAATOOO mibr major Boston top3,4 mibr major london top3,4
2018-10-16 18:39
#186
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Europe p1peb0mb 
cold is not top 5 this year dude. stop living in the past. hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2018-01.. s1mple,device,niko,electronic,dupreeh,magisk,coldzera,naf,guardian,glaive, krimz,twistzz,sunny,autimatic,oskar,xyp9x,elige,ropz,flamie. one of kennyS/rain/tarik will take 20th spot depending on how much weight major mvp gets on the case of tarik or difference between 1 evp with high k/d on the case of kennyS or multiple evps with less k/d on the case of rain.
2018-10-16 19:00
#72
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Russia sneakyboy 
1. device 2. s1mple/dup/magisk
2018-10-13 19:17
#79
s1mple | 
Sweden ViKz 
Olof?
2018-10-13 19:32
#162
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United States Acehavok 
Who? You mean that guy who keeps leaving Faze with stand ins for long spans of time?
2018-10-16 07:55
#167
s1mple | 
Sweden ViKz 
Still better than Auti
2018-10-16 12:29
Flamie =)))) hahahahah
2018-10-13 19:33
#84
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Brazil cjozek96 
why krimz ? just asking
2018-10-13 19:36
#103
apEX | 
United Kingdom SkaTyce 
The success fnatic has had this year was mainly due to krimz stepping up to be a consistent fragger and overall good player
2018-10-13 21:11
#163
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United States Acehavok 
Look at him now his stats for the past 3 months are abysmal, even the last 6 months aren't that great.
2018-10-16 07:56
i think Elige should be higher up, - autimatic + fallen / rain the rest i can agree with
2018-10-13 19:37
#99
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Europe p1peb0mb 
autimatic has like 4 evps this year along with top 15 rating on big events. rain has some evps too but rating is low comopared to autimatic. fallen is nowhere near them hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2018-01..
2018-10-13 20:39
agree only swap gla1ve with ropz/elige/tarik
2018-10-13 19:59
0/½
2018-10-16 08:19
There's no olof, and many dudes will be out of the list
2018-10-13 19:59
were is allu
2018-10-13 22:29
#116
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Brazil hugoooo 
No way electronic will be top 5.
2018-10-13 22:58
He will definitely be top 5 he is such an amazing player i always get more scared for astralis when they go up against electronic then i do for simple
2018-10-13 23:02
#125
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Brazil hugoooo 
s1mple and device will be the top 2. Next we have some Astralis and Liquid players. Then we have electronic. Wait and see.
2018-10-13 23:05
No liquid player will top 5 at this rate Far more likely for astralis to hold 3 top 5 spots then that happening
2018-10-13 23:10
You missed Allu, he is god
2018-10-13 23:02
#122
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Europe trey_ 
nah gla1ve 6-10 naf 11-15 elige 11-15 but we'll see it's only october
2018-10-13 23:03
#127
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Norway NoregNik 
1. S1mple 2. Device 3. Dupreeh 4. Electronic 5. NiKo 6. Twistzz 7. Magisk 8. NAF 9. Coldzera 10. Krimz 11. Gla1ve 12. Sunny 13. Xyp9x 14. GuardiaN 15. Oskar 16. Elige 17. Flamie 18. Ropz 19. Tarik 20. Autimatic These are like the most realistic for now, but they can change in like a month.
2018-10-13 23:20
1.s1mple 2.device 3.gla1ve 4.dupreeh 5.electronic 6.niko 7.twistzz 8.coldzera 9.naf 10.xyp9x 11.magisk 12.sunny 13.krimz 14.stewie 15.hobbit 16.guardian 17.oskar 18.elige 19.fallen 20.autimatic
2018-10-14 04:04
device will be #1 unless navi win the next t1 tournament
2018-10-14 08:51
Coldzera top 10?
2018-10-14 12:19
#172
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Brazil P4uloVisk 
1-S1mple,2device,3coldzera,4eletronic,5niko,6fallen 7dupree,8magisk,9Elige,10Naf,11Oskar,12Fer,13guardian,14sunny15twistzz,16Rain,17Tarik,18ropz,19gla1ve20chrisj 21-KSCERAAAATOOO mibr major Boston top3,4 mibr major london top3,4 olof top30 cheers
2018-10-16 18:32
#150
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Denmark monroEski 
auti not in top20 in 2018
2018-10-14 20:55
#153
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North America AJRAJR123 
tarik, he got the major MVP, so he'll be on there
2018-10-14 21:02
sergej??? aerial???? aleksib?????? allu???!!!???!!! xseven bot tho
2018-10-16 07:37
Where Edward
2018-10-16 07:57
please remove flamie, a bot of a player this year!
2018-10-16 12:33
#171
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Brazil P4uloVisk 
1-S1mple,2device,3coldzera,4eletronic,5niko,6fallen 7dupree,8magisk,9Elige,10Naf,11Oskar,12Fer,13guardian,14sunny15twistzz,16Rain,17Tarik,18ropz,19gla1ve20chrisj 21-KSCERAAAATOOO mibr major Boston top3,4 mibr major london top3,4
2018-10-16 18:28
It's 2018, not 2017.
2018-10-16 18:55
#182
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Brazil P4uloVisk 
whats?? Boston 2018 lool
2018-10-16 18:56
#178
shox | 
Germany klashie 
where is shoxie ma men?
2018-10-16 18:54
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