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G2 Fans and haters come here.
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Okay dear the fans I think we all agree the haters win, G2 hasn't done anything apart from beating Faze... I'm a fan of G2, but ATM the team is going nowhere this team needs another roster move. Lets evaluate, kennyS He's a great awper can contest with other great awpers as well. As sad as I am to say he wont get 'Top 20' this year, if G2 kept the form the first Major of 2018 definitely, but it wont happen (Maybe 20) but we all agree that we haven't seen G2 or KennyS this year apart from E-league Major. Kenny has still yet to decide to sign a contract to G2 E-Sports, which means he might be on his way out of G2 by 2019. KennyS still shows potential and if motivated enough can carry his team to a Grand final victory. Shox Shox come back with the second half of 2018 has been great, its either Shox or Kenny showing the Frags on the board. Shox has definitely come back better than he was before, definitely a strong player for G2. Shox is highly motivated and ready to win some tier 1 tournaments. Ex6tenz Ex6tenz has had a lot of hate and honestly he was a good move for G2 to bring back in the squad. Yes, Ex6tenz is NOT a fragger, but he isn't that bad when you think about it. Yes, his strats needs working on, but its not the worst, he gets G2 beating FaZe, yes FaZe is in a slump ATM, but when you think about it you guys think FaZe is better and has better players than G2. Smithzz Haters give a lot of shit to Smithzz as well, hes also a good player to bring in to the squad. Let me ask a question. Why do you think Smithzz is bad? Yes, most of us can all agree someone better could join in the squad. But, in my opinion a team cant have 5 top fraggers and expect to win. Lets give smithzz a try. Bodyy Bodyy, he has potential but I don't think hes a great fit to the team. Yes, he has been fragging a lot more than usual. But he still needs to do more for the team. Now, for the people who don't know how a team runs (90% of HLTV.ORG BTW) You need a: IGL- Support- AWP- Rifle- Entry Fragger- Well, if G2 wants to get better and win, they need to: -bodyy +Scream/Kioshima Please tell me your thoughts on this topic.
2018-10-15 11:34
#1
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Oh, and just found out that Ex6tenz is only a stand in for now. So we might see -Ex6tenz +Someone else.
2018-10-15 11:38
#8
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France theJpay 
? He just got new contracts until 2020
2018-10-15 11:49
#17
ZywOo | 
France ZywHere 
sources pls ?
2018-10-15 11:55
#19
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Ex6TenZ As you can see for the history. For Ex6tenz hes a stand in. But TheJpay has made a good point that they just made contracts for 2020
2018-10-15 11:56
#62
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United States AproximateCS 
He's thinking of when this team was formed, Ex6tenz was initilly a "standin" because they wouldn't sign a player who hasn't played yet.
2018-10-15 12:21
#136
ZywOo | 
France ZywHere 
ah ok
2018-10-15 14:28
yeah he was only a standin for ecs5
2018-10-15 12:41
Was he? Then they decided to keep him? Hmm interesting.
2018-10-15 12:43
#2
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Poland Sneku 
+1 ScreaM + kennyS + shox 😁
2018-10-15 11:38
I’m too lazy to read that
2018-10-15 11:41
#4
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
''But, in my opinion a team cant have 5 top fraggers and expect to win. '' what is astralis for you ?
2018-10-15 11:43
#5
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Glalve.... Hes not a top fragger hes a IGL...
2018-10-15 11:44
#7
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Denmark Mah1 
1.12 rating past 3 months nt
2018-10-15 11:49
#9
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
>1.12 of rating >not fragger pick one plz niko was the top fragger and the leader for mouz back in the day btw...
2018-10-15 11:49
#35
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
WHEN THE FUCK DID I SAY HE WAS SHIT? I never said he cant frag. Hes just not a FRAGGER. HE doesnt top frag everygame you Idiot.
2018-10-15 12:06
#39
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
Where did i said that u said he was shit ?
2018-10-15 12:08
#44
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
1.12 rating past 3 months nt Kinda indicating I said he was shit
2018-10-15 12:08
#67
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
U said he wasnt a top fragger this isnt true but only cuz device is a beast
2018-10-15 12:27
#69
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
BEcause hes not a top fragger
2018-10-15 12:28
#72
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
What kind of role is that ? I can show u a lot of game where gla1ve is top fragging.
2018-10-15 12:29
#75
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
OMFG. Your the dumbest person I have ever met. 'When I mean Top fragger, I mean he is consistently getting 2nd fragger or 1st fragger. he isnt one of them. Edit: he is a good fragger but isnt a top fragger.
2018-10-15 12:31
#78
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
Ofc cuz everyone on this tezm can be the top pr the 2nd top lol
2018-10-15 12:32
#209
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United States Neroz44 
if you are saying a top fragger has to be 1st or 2nd every game then it is literally impossible for a team to have more than 2. but Astralis has all their players top frag in different games..
2018-11-12 05:39
Not stars, just lucky that other teams are on a slump XDDDDD
2018-10-15 12:04
#32
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
+1
2018-10-15 12:05
#33
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
Other teams like nip ? Already 2 years of slump.
2018-10-15 12:06
#38
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Fan of happy... Sounds about right.
2018-10-15 12:06
#41
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
Fan of g2 btw, vitality is already better lol
2018-10-15 12:07
#42
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Fan of happy. Any team with happy is already a shit team.
2018-10-15 12:08
#68
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
+1 like ldlc and envyus :p
2018-10-15 12:28
#71
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Nice going back to 2014-2015
2018-10-15 12:28
#74
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
Not my fault if u said any team with happy is shit
2018-10-15 12:30
#77
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
It is. and if im right I could go back to the first major when Astralis was shit.
2018-10-15 12:32
#80
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
Ye and i will be able to counter that by saying that its not true cuz they are good now
2018-10-15 12:32
#83
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Yea and I will be able to counter you by saying how Happy was good between 2014-2015 because hes shit now.
2018-10-15 12:33
#95
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
Ye and it doesnt change the fact that its not true that every team with happy is shit ? So what is your point here ?
2018-10-15 12:39
#96
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
I will give you some facts yea? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - HAPPY IS SHIT.
2018-10-15 12:39
#102
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
He may be shit but it not true to say that every team he played with was bad.
2018-10-15 12:41
OMG Im saying everyteam hes GONNA play for is shit. He does the same old strats. Did it work at all?
2018-10-15 12:42
#108
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
He is not leading btw
2018-10-15 12:43
Still gonna be shit no matter what. Get over it. I understand you want him. But its never gonna work.
2018-10-15 12:44
#112
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
I will believe you, cuz u obviously know a lot about the game
2018-10-15 12:46
I agree Envy was great 2014-2015... But its 2018 now. Hes not gonna be good.
2018-10-15 12:47
#99
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
BET YOU, YOU SAY HAPPY IS BETTER AT AWPING THAN KENNYS. I BET YOU TO AGREE THAT HAPPYS SHIT
2018-10-15 12:40
#100
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
Wtf ?
2018-10-15 12:41
2 years of slump... let me think about your flair for a moment 🤔🤔🤔 happy irrelevant since 2015
2018-10-15 12:09
#70
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
Maybe it true just wait for vitality my brother
2018-10-15 12:28
#73
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Hes true Fuggu Happy is Irrelavant... thats why He hasnt been in a team and leftout left him out.
2018-10-15 12:29
#76
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
That also why all the players from leftout except hadji dont have a team right now lol
2018-10-15 12:31
Hope that this vitality team works, zywoo needs to play tier 1 events
2018-10-15 12:32
#81
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Same here. it will be nice.
2018-10-15 12:33
#82
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
Yeah hopefully it work, i dont think they can be worst then g2 anyway
2018-10-15 12:33
#84
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
They have alot of work to be better than G2
2018-10-15 12:34
#88
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
No pro teams have a lot of work to do to beat g2
2018-10-15 12:35
#89
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Yea they kinda do.... FAZE...
2018-10-15 12:35
#91
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
So luminosity >faze ? Faze is in a slump and you know that.
2018-10-15 12:37
#93
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
So is G2... And you know that.
2018-10-15 12:38
#97
shox | 
France Kabby 
To be in a slump you actually have to be good at some point, and this current line-up didn't really manage to do that yet (compared to the expectation we have with players like shox and kenny)
2018-10-15 12:40
#98
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
The difference between those teamsis that faze was good at some point, so we know it just a slump but g2 with ex6 never was good so how can yoy say its a slump ?
2018-10-15 12:40
I bet you gonna say the same thing when Vitality is in a slump,
2018-10-15 12:41
#105
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
Im not as biased as you sorry
2018-10-15 12:42
Im biased yet alone you thing Happy is the best.
2018-10-15 12:43
#109
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
Never say that wtf ?
2018-10-15 12:44
You're acting like it. ITs like your saying that I said 90% of hltvs are dumb.
2018-10-15 12:45
#114
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
'Now, for the people who don't know how a team runs (90% of HLTV.ORG BTW" if didnt mean the be offencise what was the point to say 90% of hltv btw
2018-10-15 12:47
Because I mostly see 90% of users having all fragger and thi k the team can win
2018-10-15 13:34
#6
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
''Now, for the people who don't know how a team runs (90% of HLTV.ORG BTW) IGL- Support- AWP- Rifle- Entry Fragger-'' that is so wrong lmao, the igl can do every role, the igl isn't just in the server to igl lol, for exemple happy is a lurker, fallen a sniper, karrigan a support etc... so i think you are in the 90% of the hltv users lol
2018-10-15 11:47
#10
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Please tell me where I said IGL can only Be IGL... Point it to me... Im saying they cant do all 5 and need to have them IN a team.
2018-10-15 11:50
#12
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
IGL- Support- AWP- Rifle- Entry Fragger- u have only 5 roles sir. if you didn't mean to say that where are the other roles ?
2018-10-15 11:51
#15
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
No, maybe for example IGL- FalleN Support- Player AWP- FalleN Rifle-Player player Entry Fragger-Player What you think im saying is this IGL-Fallen Support-Bodyy AWP-KennyS Rifle-Shox Entry Fragger-Apex YES, a IGL can have more than 1 Role but there atleast has to have roles within the team. It cant be the main fragger and have 4 bots on your team. ITs not going to work. do you think Glalve can 1v5 Navi? or FalleN 1v5 Navi?
2018-10-15 11:54
#18
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
IGL- FalleN Support- Player AWP- FalleN Rifle-Player player Entry Fragger-Player u dont see anything weird here ?? you play only with 4 players, i didnt know that.
2018-10-15 11:55
#20
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Are you blind? IGL- FalleN Support- Player AWP- FalleN Rifle-(Player) player Entry Fragger-Player
2018-10-15 11:57
#22
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
yes i broke my glasses lul, but the 2nd rifle is the lurker anyway.
2018-10-15 11:58
#23
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Well, yea but. maybe next time look at the reply.
2018-10-15 11:59
#25
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
yeah maybe next time dont act like you know shit when u dont know what is a lurker
2018-10-15 12:01
#27
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
I know what a lurker is dumb ass. But do you?
2018-10-15 12:02
#28
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
Yeah write it next time brother. It a good think to do if you want ppl to take u srsly
2018-10-15 12:04
#30
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
What do you mean? Write it next time?
2018-10-15 12:04
#36
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
The roles.
2018-10-15 12:06
#40
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Bruh. I litteraly put them in there. I dont need to put any pitty little detail in there.
2018-10-15 12:07
#45
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
When you talk shit to other users, their is not little detail sorry.
2018-10-15 12:08
#47
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Your the one talking shit.
2018-10-15 12:09
#51
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
"Like 90% of hltv user"
2018-10-15 12:11
#54
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Dont deny you weren't talking shit.
2018-10-15 12:12
#64
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
Cuz u start
2018-10-15 12:26
#66
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
You started it acctually
2018-10-15 12:27
#85
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
Ye by saying 90% of hltv is dumb
2018-10-15 12:34
#87
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Please show me where I said they are dumb. I said they dont know how a team runs.
2018-10-15 12:35
#90
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
Most of ppl now the roles in a team, except u i guess
2018-10-15 12:36
#92
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Bro. Obviously they dont if they do niko rain kennyS Coldzera shox Thats a team without a team role
2018-10-15 12:37
Luminosity/SK 2016: Fallen igl Coldzera rifler Fer lurker/entry Taco support Fnx support There you go
2018-10-15 12:06
#46
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
Fer Entry and lurk wtf ?
2018-10-15 12:09
#48
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
So your saying that fer cant do both roles?
2018-10-15 12:09
#50
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
Not that he cant, more like he wasnt.
2018-10-15 12:11
#52
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
You saying he cant do both roles?
2018-10-15 12:11
Fer was entry as T and lurker as CT
2018-10-15 12:11
#161
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France Yo_Les_Noobz 
Like many Entries/Lurker That's perfectly logic considering that you have 2 options as an entry on CT side : 1) Super aggressive playstyle, like ApeX or ScreaM, to get an early kill and info and fall back on site (although ApeX forget to fall back way too much but that's another story) 2) Lurking
2018-10-15 17:53
But sometimes taco was the entry and fer was full lurker
2018-10-15 12:12
#29
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Switzerland codplayer 
pros mention it time and time again: everyone needs to be able to all the roles within a team. everyone needs to be able to support, to entry, to lurk... in a lot of situations midround you need to adapt with what you got, so don‘t fix yourself on these roles all too much ;-)
2018-10-15 12:04
#49
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
;) ye
2018-10-15 12:10
#162
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France Yo_Les_Noobz 
Doesn't mean you can't have the same role in every default plays.
2018-10-15 17:54
#166
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Switzerland codplayer 
ye you are obviously right about that :)
2018-10-15 20:19
#11
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France theJpay 
But often (maybe 60% of the teams), the IGL acts as a second support so it's assumed that the IGL is a support. Maybe that's what op meant
2018-10-15 11:50
#13
Happy | 
Vietnam Hadaway 
ye maybe
2018-10-15 11:53
#163
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France Yo_Les_Noobz 
In the actual meta, it's more the main and only support, cause you don't want to sacrifice firepower.
2018-10-15 17:55
#164
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France theJpay 
Well okay, but I must admit that my model right is Astralis (most successful team rn) and gla1ve has a role of support, and Xyp9x too so yeah, but they both have a decent firepower
2018-10-15 18:07
Luminosity/SK 2016: Fallen igl Coldzera rifler Fer lurker/entry Taco support Fnx support There you go
2018-10-15 12:06
#14
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France Yo_Les_Noobz 
IGL- NBK Support- bodyy AWP- kennyS Rifle- Shox Entry Fragger- APEX Yeah, the only roster move they needed on previous lineup was Shox to let NBK become IGL... Sad he didn't. And whith that lineup , you could -bodyy +any french star rifler (ZyWoo, i'm talking about you) whenever you want if you need more firepower, so the team would be : IGL/ SUPPORT - NBK Rifle- ZyWoo AWP- kennyS Lurk- Shox Entry Fragger- APEX
2018-10-15 11:55
#16
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
I agree with this.
2018-10-15 11:55
#21
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Has Fire power can double awp, even triple awp. but you know Ik its not a thing
2018-10-15 11:58
#24
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France Yo_Les_Noobz 
I know it isn't. French scene just dumb enough to destroy itself. I'm just thinking that for this, the timing could even have been perfect. Shox went in surgery, meanwhile Mixweel stand in and NBK IGL to take experience. July, Shox comes back, NBK got experience at IGLIng and ZyWoo graduated so you can take him, or keep MIxwell if he was good, or keep bodyy or whatever. Other option could simply has been -bodyy +Ex6, even though it's not same fire power level.
2018-10-15 12:01
#26
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Yea definatly
2018-10-15 12:01
#118
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France theJpay 
+100 I still dream of this team thinking about how good it would have been: GL/ SUPPORT - NBK Rifle- ZyWoo AWP- kennyS Lurk- Shox Entry Fragger- APEX I mean, top1-2 material if NBK is a good igl
2018-10-15 13:07
#151
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France Yo_Les_Noobz 
What really makes me regret that didn't happen is that NBK seems to be at least a decent IGL (for me he is even good, and it was just the begining) from the few games we saw from them, even when he was IGLing with no experience in G2 when mixwell was on the team. Not to mention that you had ApeX at this time, adding 1 more map to your mapool, except against 1 or 2 best mirage teams (even though they lost against astralis, faze, etc... It was only on overtime, and they rolled over any lower opposition on the map)... That's why RN, i hope they all understand that they did misstakes and will shuffle again after next major, when no one will have a legend slot anymore.
2018-10-15 17:40
#154
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France theJpay 
Yeah. A lot a people say that they didn't achieved anything when NBK was leading but given the context he did a good job. And I'm sure that everyone in the team wasn't 100% into it. shox would have been an amazing upgrade to mixwell. About mirage, Apex had a kind of weird style of leading on it so I think it surprised a lot of team. That's why they had a "good" record at that time. He is a very agressive player and so he used a lot of agressive setups even in CT. The teams would have figured it out given some time. I don't know if a shuffle would be a good solution given all the conflicts that exist right now. I want to see both G2 and Vitality line up succeed as they are and I believe in them. G2 has still a lot of room to improve if body steps up and kennyS is more constant. Vitality has a balanced roster and as they look 100% into it they will work hard to have at least a decent map pool rapidly
2018-10-15 17:43
#157
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France Yo_Les_Noobz 
Yeah vitality seems ok for high tier2 low tier 1. But that's exactly the problem of the french scene. The fact that every team has 2 stars, 1 average+ player, 2 bots is why they will in fact all fail. And you need to shuffle to -2Bots +2stars
2018-10-15 17:45
They dont have a legend spot anyway no more.
2018-11-12 05:31
Shox and Smitthz gay relationship ..shox can't live or play without Smithhz inside team..in those one of 5 chairs .. Bot .
2018-10-15 13:41
NBK- was ready to be part of this lineup shox said no Everyone in team was fine with NBK In squad ..shox to ruin. And we know ..nbk isn't just support or feature player , he is also 2nd entry fragger ..definitely better than Boddy and BOTSMITTHZ
2018-10-15 13:49
#152
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France Yo_Les_Noobz 
For me, ZyWoo had to be 2nd awper in that lineup. Shox is sooooo good back at lurking. Don't know if you noticed the number of rounds G2 loose when shox is 2nd awp.
2018-10-15 17:39
Oh no, yea I agree zywoo 2nd awp... I'm saying they can if they want. But will be a bad idea
2018-10-16 02:32
#60
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Romania themightyflea 
bodyy is complete shit, i dont know what made him perfom this way since in the shox and scream g2 he was actually good but rn he is way worse than even smithzz at this point in time LDLC is way way better than G2
2018-10-15 12:21
#61
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
+1
2018-10-15 12:21
#119
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France theJpay 
We will see what happen tomorrow with the LDLC-G2 match
2018-10-15 13:08
easiest money of my life, that's whats gonna happen
2018-10-15 13:10
#63
Twistzz | 
Afghanistan aro420 
-ex6tenz +kio igl -smithZz/body + ScreaM entry or rifle Shox lurk KennyS awp boddy/smithZz support
2018-10-15 12:26
#65
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
+1
2018-10-15 12:26
#86
shox | 
France Kabby 
IMO one single move could solve the problem of G2 as of now. One person in this roster isn't doing as good as we expect him to be and it's bodyy. He needed to be the 3rd fragger of the team behind shox and kennyS, but as you can see it's often ex6 who's fragging with shox or kennyS. SmithZz and ex6 are doing their job just fine, they're not the problem IMO. So I'd do something like -bodyy +a solid fragger. One name that comes to my mind is ScreaM considering he's free agent and he looks on form rn but other could fit too
2018-10-15 12:34
He does his role well unlike smithzz
2018-10-15 12:53
#139
shox | 
France Kabby 
His role is to be the 3rd fragger of the team, do you often see him fragging much ? no. SmithZz isn't supposed to do many frags, he's supporting the team and he does well at that.
2018-10-15 14:50
Bodyy is a support player, he does not play his role fully atm cuz smithzz wanted to play with g2. He is way better support than smithz
2018-10-15 14:54
#142
shox | 
France Kabby 
Well yeah, this might be another solution to the problem : -SmithZz +someone, and change bodyy's role in the team for support
2018-10-15 14:56
#115
2018-10-15 15:19
Omegalul , I never saw smitthz doing well ..rather boddy is more consistent and has a good aim 😂
2018-10-15 13:36
Talking about Boddy. He is so pressured , he is supposed to do more than just support role cause of Smitthz who don't deserve spot in this lineup ...if they really swap Boddy for some other player.. That's the bad decisions and talent waste.
2018-10-15 13:38
#140
shox | 
France Kabby 
Indeed he's supposed to do more than just supporting, and he fails at doing more, hence -bodyy for me, but it's just my opinion and you have every right to disagree with me my friend
2018-10-15 14:52
#153
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France Yo_Les_Noobz 
Agreed Smithzz is the problem, and it generates more problems in the team
2018-10-15 17:43
#186
eLUSIVE | 
United States mook_ 
+1 i hate all these ppl saying that smithzz doesnt have to frag cuz hes a support and that the stats dont matter and to an extent its true but his stats are just abysmal like he has a 0.69 kd in the last 3 months which i think may be the lowest out of every player in the top 50
2018-10-28 06:27
Yea man , I mean if I was him , id get myself benched for team's greater good than ruining the whole scene and talent
2018-10-28 19:59
Isent scream playing for fnc atm?
2018-10-15 14:14
#138
shox | 
France Kabby 
Just a stand-in afaik
2018-10-15 14:49
#183
TACO | 
Brazil user2740 
what is fnc?
2018-10-27 23:49
fnatic
2018-10-28 12:29
#190
TACO | 
Brazil user2740 
ty
2018-10-28 14:27
Kio Apex Shox Kennys Zywoo/scream
2018-10-15 12:38
Kenny-u cant find better awper in france Shox - arguably the best fr player Ex6- even tho many ppl consider him useless, we have seen how g2 looks like without a proper igl so they need him, and no, happy is not better Scream- even tho many consider him washed up i think he still has a lot to show and he can be crucial for g2 And the last player is kinda tricky, they obv need a support player where there are 2 options:either bodyy or kio Bodyy plays well and we havent seen kio play against t1 for qute a long time now so i think bodyy would be a better choice. Smithzz-coach So g2 should IMO look like that
2018-10-15 12:52
+1 ..boddy can also be a secondary awper tho ..I mean he has some good highlights .. 1v2 clutch against Optic on Inferno and Then against VP on D2
2018-10-15 13:33
#117
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Finland James Nelson 
Nowadays in cs u have to expect everyone from the team to frag to be a top team. If one or two players are off who is gonna frag then ? People throw this support player bs around but in fact everyone should support each other in tteam, its called teamwork. And if u have support who cant frag dont expect to win.
2018-10-15 13:00
#121
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Indonesia linekerrr 
That's BS. When someone is defined as a support that means he's supporting the team most of the time, not all the time. who the fuck thinks a support supports 100% of the time, even a lurker and an entry fragger doesn't lurk and entry 100% of the time. Even an awper doesn't awp 100% of the time.
2018-10-15 13:22
#129
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Finland James Nelson 
its true that positions are fluid but i still call bs on this support. Why is he defined as a support then and not as a rifler like OP defines one role. Surely he uses a rifle ? If he can frag he is rifler then. But useless to have support just to throw nades. If he cant frag he should be cut out.
2018-10-15 13:41
#135
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Indonesia linekerrr 
Well entry fraggers are riflers too. In liquipedia xyp9x, for example, is classified as Rifler(support), or dupreeh is a rifler (entryfragger). People don't seem to understand that entry and star players can shine because they have support most of the time, but the supports DONT have support most of the time,so they can't shine most of the time. I doubt that players like dupreeh or niko or even s1 can shine as bright as they are now if they don't have the support, which begs the question : if star players are put in hard support roles, would they play as well as the current supports? Remember that fragging power is highly influenced by momentum and confidence
2018-10-15 14:22
#137
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Finland James Nelson 
Xyp9x is good example what u need for support though. He is still solid fragger and good for clutch. And in astralis there isnt usually just one star player that shines but they play as a team and support each other. What if support is the only one with full hp and others are low, then u have to trust that the support can deliver too.
2018-10-15 14:35
+1, support bullshit has come too far I think it's a teamgame, everyone supports each other but if noone can frag who's gonna kill enemies? this g2 squad has no future, 100% they won't achieve anything. you know why kenny was so frustrated on lan? because this team is putting all the pressure on 2 players : shox and kennys and they both need to deliver for whole team this kind of concept is doomed. you can witness the same thing happening with navi when s1mple and electronic don't go ham, they can't even get out of group stage and that's why you see astralis unbeatable at the moment. G2 roster I'd like to see would be apex shox kennys zywoo ex6/nbk igl
2018-10-15 13:41
Yess, your smart. A team needs a IGL/ someone who can run a team, call strats and that. And that team can easily be a top 3 team, if they train hard, and Zywoo will definatly,
2018-11-12 05:23
When you say 'Boddy has a potential but still needs to put some more ' He's recruited as a support player and he's definitely doing more than just support player .. While smitthz he is doing nothing . I mean NOTHING . There is no point in removing boddy . I don't know how many of you agree with me but Boddy is right now the most consistent player in G2 , it's really sad to see that ...But he really is. -Smithhz +Kio/Scream Or best -Smitthz -Boddy +ScreaM +kioShima
2018-10-15 13:35
#160
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France Yo_Les_Noobz 
+1 I totally agree. THe one and only problem of G2 RN is that smithzz is on the team, so bodyy cant play his role and you can't putt more firepower in the team.
2018-10-15 17:50
Yes but if bodyy leave Shox leaves
2018-10-26 09:31
If smitthz leaves shox leaves you mean ?
2018-10-26 09:42
Yes sorry
2018-10-26 09:42
G2 has options for that actually ... SmitthZ should have some brain Abd should leave it for team's greater good .. Idk how can ocelote renews their contract
2018-10-26 09:47
Yea def
2018-10-27 23:07
Yes, and Ex6tenz, IS Fragging. Yes. NOT ENOUGH. But More than we expected,
2018-11-12 05:25
Best thing for French team can happen is A. Zywoo KennyS Happy apEX NBK- B. KennyS Shox EX6tenz ScreaM KioShima C. Shox KennyS NBK- Happy/zywoo Kioshima
2018-10-15 13:46
Considering vitality is a thing, gotta go with B. and it's what they need right now, I would love to see that
2018-10-15 17:49
Yep , shox needs to understand he's married now and should leave smitthz
2018-10-15 18:14
#191
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
SMITHZZ TO COACH AND MALEK TO ANAYLST ITS THAT SIMPLE
2018-10-28 14:34
Yea , excited with g2 at cs summit.. Chance to prove
2018-10-28 20:00
#194
shox | 
Serbia ravi0ll1 
if they dont win it they really need changes, they've finished, like, their 4th bootcamp since they formed, played like 5 lans and still tier 5, thats more than enough time to implement structure, do they think time will make them better? The only thing time will do is make Shox, Smithzz and Ex6 older and slower. Smithzz, Ex6 and Bodyy simply dont have what it takes to be in a tier 1 team. If Ocelote is happy paying this friendship team money to buttfuck eachother and stay tier 5 its fine. Btw imagine 2017 G2 if Shox let NBK instead of protesting and bringing in Smithzz and Ex6. NBK- IGL Shox- Star rifler Bodyy- Support Apex- Entry KennyS- AWP holy fuck...
2018-10-28 20:08
AND they had 2 months to prepare when they first started. ENOUGH TIME TO GET STRATS
2018-11-12 05:27
B, Happy is over and done with.
2018-11-12 05:25
#133
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Poland k@nios 
Actually I respect G2 and crossing fingers everytime the play. No changes needed just some more time
2018-10-15 14:16
respect them for what? for playing a video game and getting 20k salary?
2018-10-15 14:59
#144
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Poland k@nios 
why so mad
2018-10-15 15:04
why do you think I'm mad? I just wonder what great things have those guys done to respect them. really strange to respect someone just for playing video games, but maybe you know something I don't.
2018-10-15 15:07
#148
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Poland k@nios 
i know youre fucked up in your mind. how much did you lost? xD
2018-10-15 15:19
#150
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Poland k@nios 
literally you have no idea what am i talking about. polish your englando xD
2018-10-15 15:38
#158
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France Yo_Les_Noobz 
He is VP fan.... He is used to that. What else did you expect ?
2018-10-15 17:48
"Ex6tenz has had a lot of hate and honestly he was a good move for G2" 9 Mar - NBK was announced as an IGL hltv.org/news/23002/g2-to-trial-mixwell-.. 1 May - NBK's last LAN event start, every shox fangirl trashtalked him for G2 results being too weak In other words, 53 days was enough to judge their level and their results. 4 Jun - G2 picked Ex6TenZ as an IGL hltv.org/news/23845/shox-returns-to-g2-a.. 3 Sep - G2 first online match after more than 53 days which was enough to shit on NBK, in fact much more time passed, specifically 91 days hltv.org/matches/2326293/g2-vs-windigo-e.. 28 Sep - 116 days after their lineup was announced, they lost offline 0-2 to NRG hltv.org/matches/2326891/nrg-vs-g2-esl-o.. 5 Oct - 123 days passed and they lost online to Space Soldiers hltv.org/matches/2327151/g2-vs-space-sol.. 7 Oct - 2 maps lost to North, including 4-16 on G2' "best" map 10 Oct - 2 maps lost to OpTic, including G2's "best" map 11 Oct - 5-16 to VIRTUS.PRO on cache which G2 should be OK on Don't even start with that bullshit about their firepower, because: 1) They chose this lineup, so they knew they would need good tactics to make up for not having very much firepower. 2) Having shox and kennyS even not at their peak is pretty good anyway, plus shox turns on every now and then. 3) You do not need much firepower to not lose to Windigo after 3 months of sticking together and to not lose to NRG, Space Soldiers, North (that just picked a brand new IGL), OpTic, Virtus.Pro after 4+ months. tl;dr G2 loses to teams that they have more than enough firepower against, which means their IGL is mediocre as hell. Stop riding Thorin's and finally understand that whatever your tactics may look like - if they don't fit your team enough to win they're useless. Ex6TenZ is the problem, not bodyy and not even SmithZz.
2018-10-15 14:20
I hate Thorin
2018-10-26 09:34
#145
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Australia Pulse22 
“Let me ask you a question. Why do you think smithzz is shit ?” Nice one! That line confirms that this post is a pure bait 0/8 nt nt
2018-10-15 15:05
Smithzz is bad, I know you need supoportive elements but only shox and kenny frag, you might aswell +scream -smithzz and get a better support, unfortunately vitality have the only french supports, tbh I think a new G2 roster that isn't french should be tried out
2018-10-15 17:44
Well no make it international kennyS Shox Scream Ex6tenz someone else?
2018-10-26 09:37
The problem is in the french scene there are so many different people who don't like eachother who limit the rosters, It's why I hate the french scene
2018-10-26 09:56
I agree with that's. They need to grow up if they want to win.
2018-10-27 23:08
#174
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Poland FrighTyyy 
I agree with most of the thread, you did a really good job. However I watch 90% of G2 matches and I think that SmithZz is not good for the team, his utility is perfect, okay, but he loses very important duels often when he has the advantage. In my opinion Ex6 should support and they should get ScreaM, who is in good form recently.
2018-10-26 09:48
Yea I agree with that. Thanks
2018-10-27 23:09
picking up maleK as a coach ( a player that show and smithz used to destroy in css and 1.6, so a person they wont repsect ) proves that they dont want to win bad enough. maleK, yes he is a cool guy... but is it what they need ? a guy that will never tell whats wrong ? a nice guy ? no. they need a guy to tell them what's wrong, and tbh i wont pick the guy i used to destroy to tell me what's wrong about my game.
2018-10-27 23:10
#180
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France FanchD 
Honestly at this point they should kick shox or said to him :"dont bring ur shit ideas to the team or gtfo" kick SmithZz and Bodyy, bring in Kio and ScreaM. If this cant work then i think kenny should go to Vitality and replace RpK or Happy
2018-10-27 23:17
agreed
2018-10-28 05:38
#181
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Canada Emperor1e 
All they had to do in the original French shuffle was -SmithZz +KennyS for G2 and this shit wouldn't happen. Scream Shox bodyy KennyS RpK Maybe -bodyy + Ex6TenZ??? idk
2018-10-27 23:20
Let's not gloss over the facts: kennyS will be leaving G2 if he continues to delay the contract extension, and shox isn't going to get rid of Ex6TenZ or SmithZz, so bodyy is sadly the only disposable player in the team (and sadly the only likeable player in G2) +kioShiMa (the only possible "upgrade" to the support role) +SIXER/ScreaM (depending on whether or not SmithZz decides to pick up the AWP again) French CS has a shit ton of talented players, but we all know shox is going to sacrifice the best possible talent for SmithZz and sometimes Ex6TenZ (just ask NBK and apEX). So I would recommend keeping an eye on bodyy if French CS wants to avoid another xms situation
2018-10-27 23:28
Yes, and +kio is a pretty good aimer as well as he is support. So it will be a Upgrade with both aim and support. They need to kick shox and smithzz Why shox? because we all know that he will want Smithzz in the team. and add Kioshima and Scream. Ez top 5
2018-10-28 05:40
agreed. Kio (support/solid fragger) Kenny (awper) Ex6 (igl) Scream (2nd Entry/superstar) Bodyy (Entry) Could potentially be a top 5 team and a top 10 team at least. With kio as a solid support and a good solid fragger as well. Have bodyy be entry because scream cant do it, he is more of a 'revenger' he said. Honestly this team couldve been even better if apex didnt get kicked. So it wouldve been +apEX -bodyy This team could have the best french speaking aimer, top 2 or top best french support, best french speaking igl and also best french awper.
2018-11-04 14:15
and best French entry if apex wasn't kicked.
2018-11-04 14:16
Yea, but they shouldnt of kicked apex, or NBK. they should of kicked Bodyy for Ex6tenz
2018-11-05 05:53
#187
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France SplasHg0d 
-SmithZz +ScreaM
2018-10-28 06:33
-smithzz -bodyy +scream +kio ez top5.
2018-10-28 12:30
#195
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France julien13700 
honedtly when i saw : Smithzz Haters give a lot of shit to Smithzz as well, hes also a good player to bring in to the squad. Let me ask a question. Why do you think Smithzz is bad? Yes, most of us can all agree someone better could join in the squad. are you fucking kidding me ????? 30 adr, missing a lot of easy shot, wrong timing.... he is by far the worst player pro that i have ever seen. for me smithzz should be coach not in a roster 5. body is still learning and he has a good aim, im giving him a try, not smithzz. so -smithhzz +scream or kio
2018-10-28 20:16
5 months together and: 7-8th at cs_summit, 0-2 BIG and 1-2 compLexity ECS 6 online qualifier - last place below LDLC & Virtus.Pro IEM Chicago qualifier - did not qualify, placed below ENCE & Heroic ESL New York - placed below Gambit & NRG Ex6TenZ & SmithZz should definely retire and stop wasting kennyS' talent, as for shox - if he wants to waste his it's his choice but for God's sake kennyS do not sign anything with that stupid cunt Ocelote and happily escape from that hell in February!
2018-11-04 13:46
Yea, I agree, But they need more firepower. Its litteraly only Shox and KennyS and that obviously isnt WORKING
2018-11-12 05:21
More firepower to beat compLexity and NRG? LDLC defeated NRG, OpTic defeated coL, tell me these have more firepower. Btw Vitality have lots of firepower, but without a leader that knows how to utilize it it does not matter. Ex6TenZ sucks. But since you're just a schoolboy that learns how to bait - I let you practice it, so keep it up.
2018-11-12 07:43
Hahahah YEa they do have more firepower. And no im not a school boy like you or baiting. Stop assuming shit and being a fucking baby.
2018-11-14 09:01
Stop bumping your nonsense thread with additional nonsense.
2018-11-14 10:37
If U dont like it dont comment on it. Its not all about you your selfish asshole.
2018-11-14 11:48
You're weird but pretty funny xD
2018-11-14 13:02
Thanks <3
2018-11-14 13:57
#197
shox | 
United Arab Emirates R4SH4SH 
I would agree, we need someone instead of smithzz ex6...
2018-11-04 13:50
They need Ex6tenz, but not Smithzz and bodyy
2018-11-12 05:20
#213
shox | 
United Arab Emirates R4SH4SH 
body I meant****
2018-11-12 13:20
They gone anyway
2018-11-12 13:34
#215
shox | 
United Arab Emirates R4SH4SH 
yeah rip lol. do you know who JackZ is? I've seen Lucky play a few times, he seems like a fresh new young blood, but jackz is like 26, I thought they were going someone from LDLC, they really have been playing great CS, and I really like to1nou, the guy knows how to play.
2018-11-13 18:48
Yea well we thought that they should get Scream and Kio. And Jacks and Lucky was a surprise. But I think they should bring in To1nou though. He is talent, but dont think he will leave LDLC
2018-11-14 01:53
They’re replacing Ex6 and Smithz with Jackz and Lucky from 3D Max
2018-11-12 05:26
#216
shox | 
United Arab Emirates R4SH4SH 
you think they're good to replace ex6 and smithzz? I dont think they needed a change in their IGL, just firepower.
2018-11-13 18:49
YEa and e6x was some what fraggin.
2018-11-14 02:50
Kioshima already joined cloud9 There is scream
2018-11-12 05:44
vpesports.com/csgo/g2-to-replace-ex6tenz.. My dude! Would you look at that JACKZ and Lucky? Pretty interesting pickup. Guess the french scene is finally embracing the solution of taking younger players instead of endless shuffles (thanks to LDLC's performance at Chicago, most likely)
2018-11-12 05:44
Just stop saying youngsters... They are picking up a guy who is 26yrs
2018-11-14 01:58
Well they are young in cs terms. As they havent even reached tier 1
2018-11-14 08:59
you can only consider lucky young, other than that jackz is a bad pickup.
2018-11-14 14:20
Okay dear the fans
2018-11-14 02:02
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