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Realistic C9 5th
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
So if we're being legit, C9 is probably going to stick with at least 3 NA players. This could go a few ways. Wardell could be a viable replacement and this lets Auti go back to rifling/being secondary awper. This would allow Wardell to develop and play in big tournaments Go after a young rifler like Sick or ethaN or Brehze. This would let Auti to continue to AWP and have 4 very good riflers.
2018-10-16 20:01
#1
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France Uexo 
All old fnatic roster
2018-10-16 20:04
#3
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
Oh god no, they need to go young imo, having someone like Krimz would be great but they are getting too old, time for some young blood
2018-10-16 20:05
#7
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France Uexo 
i was kidding x)
2018-10-16 20:06
#20
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
I know lol, just saying that I'd like some new blood that is all
2018-10-16 20:11
twitter.com/drakenCSGO/status/1046603586.. :>>> Tweet from 15 days ago lol
2018-10-16 20:11
#35
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
yea that doesn't confirm anything tho, like I said, Draken and Flusha aren't fans of each other and Auti can handle the AWP job
2018-10-16 20:15
draken and flusha hate each other hlltv confirmed :OO
2018-10-16 22:26
Where did you get that info from, that they dont like each other?
2018-10-17 02:48
Tom Brady is still playing nfl football at 40 and he's the GOAT.
2018-10-17 02:51
#213
ropz | 
Canada Wormyyy 
Football =/= CS:GO
2018-10-17 21:23
#2
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World EXXXX 
SNAX ak / AWP
2018-10-16 20:05
#4
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
no thanks, he can barely speak English as it is
2018-10-16 20:05
#94
smooya | 
United Kingdom Johal 
hes decent at english, he wouldnt have gone into mouz otherwise
2018-10-16 21:38
#95
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
you ever hear him talk? his English is so bad and he would be better suited to play on a polish team again
2018-10-16 21:40
#98
smooya | 
United Kingdom Johal 
hes a better fit to go to be a stand in and stream, he isnt good anymore, but if he couldnt speak english he wouldnt have got on mouz
2018-10-16 21:41
#114
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Hungary 0nce 
+1 absolutely posible. But i'm a bit upset that there are no more national teams (exept danish). :(
2018-10-16 22:28
#123
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Canada UnknownTwin2 
ENCE SpaceSoldiers G2 Vitality Luminosity ... ... ...
2018-10-17 02:47
#207
jkaem | 
Norway Wern3r 
11 out of the top 30 teams.
2018-10-17 14:23
s0m s0m is best player, he is under rated af
2018-10-16 20:05
#9
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
he's also 16 I think, he could be great but theres a bunch of issues with signing young players sometimes, I wouldn't oppose it tho
2018-10-16 20:06
Never even proved it on a low level NA team tho, chucking him in at the deep end would be a bad idea (a la koosta)
2018-10-17 21:51
#224
BnTeT | 
United Kingdom dokunug 
playing well for OGC, and played well at that lan in Atlanta (cant rmbr Lan name) a few months ago
2018-10-17 21:54
Get him on a spacestation, or the new NV or any team like that and then I’ll start believing.
2018-10-17 21:59
#226
BnTeT | 
United Kingdom dokunug 
Fair enough
2018-10-17 22:05
#6
NiKo | 
Finland nexustron 
draken most likely
2018-10-16 20:06
#12
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
I keep seeing this and I don't think so. Flusha didn't like Draken at all in Fnatic, so I don't see it happening, plus Auti is already a better AWPer and he just started AWPing full time
2018-10-16 20:08
#14
NiKo | 
Finland nexustron 
still most likely
2018-10-16 20:08
#45
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Switzerland Odesza 
Auti won’t star to awp if he knew they will sing an awper So basically c9 will sing a rifler and hopefully darken isn’t one
2018-10-16 20:20
#50
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
Yea it wouldn't make much sense to have Auti start full time awning, just to sign an AWPer, who has performed awful over the last 6 months. I would be okay with it tho if they got Wardell
2018-10-16 20:23
#80
NiKo | 
Finland nexustron 
I know, but it is still most likely, it would be stupid in my opinion but I feel that it is most likely
2018-10-16 20:42
#115
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France spidergum 
Where did u see that they dont like each other ?
2018-10-16 22:30
#117
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
in the context as there was no team chemistry and both players were toxic towards the team, I don't think it will work out, just like it didn't in Fnatic, should have been more clear
2018-10-16 22:36
#118
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France spidergum 
"First and foremost I wanna thank William for his time with us, even tho it was a short period, he joined us during a difficult time within the team and even tho we didnt achieve the results we wanted, he stepped up to the task in my opinion. I wanna point out that despite the rumours and what people think about William, he was never behaving in a toxic way towards anyone in the team. It was simply just not a good fit overall" No one ever said that draken was toxic.... Flusha was yes but their is no proof that draken was
2018-10-16 22:40
#120
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
lol you're an idiot if you don't understand that Draken is toxic
2018-10-16 22:58
#196
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France spidergum 
Or maybe its you for assuming stupid think like that...
2018-10-17 09:18
#208
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
You really do have a negative iq if you feel Draken isn't a toxic players, maybe not so much in his teams, but in the community and towards other teams
2018-10-17 19:58
#227
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France spidergum 
This is so sad, he is toxic toward to community awe :( he cant play in c9 cuz he is toxic not to his team8 but to the community awe :(((
2018-10-18 02:31
#228
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France spidergum 
And u dare talk about others iq with this kind of logic omegalul
2018-10-18 02:32
#229
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
good comeback chief
2018-10-18 02:33
#119
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France spidergum 
You have the right to dislike him but dont spread lies wtf
2018-10-16 22:42
#232
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Europe MrBrotherMan 
yes
2018-10-18 02:40
#8
NAF | 
Slovakia t4gg3d 
Dr♿ken 1000%
2018-10-16 20:06
RoBo
2018-10-16 20:07
Wardell BEAST
2018-10-16 20:07
draken probably
2018-10-16 20:07
#16
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
I really hope not, everyone keeps saying that with really no reason behind it. Draken and Flusha don't get along and thats why both ending up parting from the roster. plus Auti is already better than him at his own game so there isn't really much of a reason to. I just don't want a toxic player on the team
2018-10-16 20:09
alright then get wardell or something, although that would kinda ruin ghost and i dont want that to happen
2018-10-16 20:10
#24
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
Fair enough, Ghost is a great team right now, but the problem is they can't play in Majors or valve sponsored events in general so they are limited to things such as pro league and I wouldn't want to be held back by that
2018-10-16 20:12
i agree
2018-10-16 20:30
Flusha fucking moved to another continet to don’t play with that swedish toxic kid
2018-10-16 20:33
#65
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
^ this
2018-10-16 20:34
Lul +1
2018-10-17 07:48
#145
Twistzz | 
Canada ayydy 
draken with black person themed squid avi on twitter, nt racist swedistan
2018-10-17 03:28
They will sign Draken as a temporary replacement, but they will eventually sign Jdm as a permanent replacement.
2018-10-16 20:08
JDM is a cool guy but he's a known commodity. If you're C9, you have to take a risk on some young talent or try to snag a big name.
2018-10-16 20:10
#19
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
Why go for washed up players? They can go for good young talent like Wardell or nathE, and they can afford to buy anyone out if both sides are willing, no reason to go for toxic and washed up players
2018-10-16 20:10
Wardell is a possibility but not Ethan, C9 would suck if Auti had to AWP.
2018-10-16 20:14
#36
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
Auti is AWPing right now and he's lighting up the Scoreboard and they are winning, so I don't see where you got that from
2018-10-16 20:16
He isn't "lighting up the scoreboard", if you look at his last few matches he has had 1.04 as his highest kdr, and his other kdr's were between .9 - .6. I did exclude the matches between Spacestation because they suck and even Golden had a good kdr.
2018-10-16 20:28
#64
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
m8 he has a 1.27 rating on HLTV during ECS s6
2018-10-16 20:33
that was boosted by his 2.0+ kdr against spacestation.
2018-10-17 02:40
CeRq - young talent, used to calling in English
2018-10-16 20:11
Not NA but who cares
2018-10-16 20:12
why would cerq leave nrg for c9 tho
2018-10-16 20:12
#29
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
I mean NRG hasn't won a major tournament and keeps choking, plus he could get a much higher salary at C9
2018-10-16 20:13
not like the current c9 looks like theyre gonna do any better and nrg is probably willing to offer him a higher salary just to keep him
2018-10-16 20:14
#40
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
NRG can't compete with C9 in terms of money, and this C9 roster is brand new and has been playing well and beat Liquid, do I think they are going to do much better
2018-10-16 20:17
i think they can tbh, nrg has some massive investors and beating liquid in an online bo1 is literally meaningless
2018-10-16 20:20
#51
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
I know in the scheme of things it is, but its the fact that they can already play with top teams is the point Im getting at
2018-10-16 20:24
#83
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Switzerland Tacticalsine 
I'm really not a c9 fan but redbull, us airforce and logitec aren't that bad sponsors and their presence in other games also helps
2018-10-16 20:51
#86
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
Plus they just raised $50 million for a training facility and for the organization as a whole, so I don't think money is an issue
2018-10-16 20:48
C9 has roughly 89 mil in investors while NRG has only 13 mil. That's why c9 owns so many rosters compared to NRG. Plus C9 makes a shit ton sponsor wise compared to NRG. They bought FNS for 200k and dropped him like it was nothing. C9 has more than enough to buy NRG from Shaq and only has to buy 2 ply toilet paper for a week to save cash
2018-10-16 22:21
#165
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United States Jammin800k 
Doesnt mean they pay the same tho a 20mil org could pay more than a 100 mil org. And from what I've heard NRG players were actually being paid more at the start of the year until c9s contracts were restructured after they won the major. NRG players are paid very well and they're all super happy on that team combined with the fact that daps is the reason cerq even got the chance to play in NA. I really dont see him leaving to c9, a team that doesnt even seem to have top 10 potential at the moment and is essentially a project.
2018-10-17 05:51
I don't mean it in the sense of "this org is worth more so it pays more" I'm just stating that C9 has the money to spend if they absolutely wanted too.
2018-10-17 06:04
#178
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United States Jammin800k 
Not really, you cant buy something that someone doesnt want to sell.
2018-10-17 06:06
That's only if the org doesn't want to because realistically they could just sell the contracts and the players get no say unless there is a legal binding. Plus I doubt theyll get CeRq and aim for either a free agent or someone with a low ass buyout. If Nifty didnt wanna quit awping im sure they would pick him up since nV most likely has low buyouts on their players rn
2018-10-17 06:09
#180
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United States Jammin800k 
That's my point? NRG doesnt want to let go of cerq and cerq doesnt want to leave. It's a lot more likely that they try to buyout someone like wardell who has an actual reason to want to leave and a noticeable pay jump
2018-10-17 06:16
Wardell better young talent. 1. He is Asian. 2. He is a god and gets like 30 kills every game. 3. English is his first language
2018-10-17 03:22
#23
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United States Sea_Of_Tea 
They probably won't go with an NA player. Only decent NA AWPers would require buyouts.
2018-10-16 20:11
#28
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
Auti can AWP so I could see them going for a potential superstar rifler, or go for someone young and develop them such as s0m or Sick
2018-10-16 20:13
#37
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United States Sea_Of_Tea 
Just because a player can AWP doesn't mean they should. There's a big role difference between primary and secondary AWP. He is good, but I don't see him being able to go toe-to-toe with top tier AWPers. Plus you'd be taking your potentially best player and putting him into a role that will lower his level of play. It would be a very questionable course of action that I feel would have negative results.
2018-10-16 20:16
#41
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
I completely agree with you, it is a big difference, and if he continues to AWP he will keep having to work at it. I'm just saying you should look at his most recent matches and look at him LIGHTING up the scoreboard, he seems to be playing better now then when he was rifling for some reason
2018-10-16 20:19
#54
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United States Sea_Of_Tea 
It could be a result of being more motivated. C9 looked anything but following their Major win. Now with new players it's possible that it just sparked that motivation again. IT could also just be out of good team dynamic and an IGL that knows how to get the most out of his playing. I'm not trying to discredit his AWPing abilities. I just think it's not the best role for him. He is easily one of the top 5 NA players and I feel the role will restrict him too much.
2018-10-16 20:28
#72
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
Thats fair and I agree with it mostly, I do think if he dedicates himself to that role, he could be one of the best at AWPing imo, the guy has a great understand of the game on top of his skill
2018-10-16 20:39
#77
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United States Sea_Of_Tea 
He definitely has the capability. That is undeniable. I guess we will have to wait and see what happens. I'm quite curious to see how everything unfolds.
2018-10-16 20:40
#81
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
Definitely, the NA scene is always better when TL and C9 are both good
2018-10-16 20:42
#148
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Australia Lomcharton 
if only c9 didnt win major then the team wouldve still been hungry and with TL in top 2 rn, we couldve had both c9 and TL in top 4-5
2018-10-17 03:29
#97
smooya | 
United Kingdom Johal 
said the same about nitr0 and now hes full time awp and goes toe to toe with top awpers
2018-10-16 21:40
#106
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United States Sea_Of_Tea 
True. I'll certainly give you that. Though nitr0 definitely AWPed more than auti in the past. I remember him wrecking with the AWP not too long after joining Liquid. He also isn't a dead-set primary AWPer, and there are times someone else will take the AWP. C9 doesn't seem quite have the same potential throughout there players. Plus over time nitr0 became less of an impact player (though he has his ecplosive games) due to his team, where I feel auti is going to be their heavy impact player. Just my opinion though.
2018-10-16 22:18
#107
smooya | 
United Kingdom Johal 
flusha and rush can awp, so its not too bad. autimatic stopped being an impact fragger when golden came in, rush now does that. autimatic is more of a support with golden
2018-10-16 22:21
#110
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United States Sea_Of_Tea 
It's a tough situation to try predicting. The whole dynamic of the team is completely different. I personally would love to see him become a great AWPer. I think it would be excellent to watch. Only time will tell.
2018-10-16 22:24
#111
smooya | 
United Kingdom Johal 
autimatic can do it, he just needs to put time into it, either him or rush will. rush put a tweet out and deleted it instantly saying "scope and boom" so maybe he will awp or maybe it was todo with skadoodle but who knows
2018-10-16 22:26
#166
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United States Jammin800k 
Yes because that's how theyve taken maps off of elite level teams, because of nitr0s AWPing lmao
2018-10-17 05:53
#25
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United States USAnumberone 
brehze/nahte/maybe cerq best choice if they are willing to leave NRG
2018-10-16 20:12
#33
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
Right and thats a problem, not sure if they are ready to give up on that core yet, I think they hit a wall personally, but they might think they haven't yet
2018-10-16 20:14
#38
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United States USAnumberone 
NRG have had multiple short stints where they look amazing but they arent very consistent. I think one of them leaving for cloud9 would be good for them
2018-10-16 20:16
#46
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
I think there is something just slightly off with the roster that is holding them back and it seems to be tourney after tourney where they look dominant at first and then just fall apart, not sure what it is tho
2018-10-16 20:21
#31
yay | 
United States threeiiis 
wardellwardellwardellwardellwardellwardellwardellwardellwardellwardellwardell
2018-10-16 20:14
+1 Although I doubt he would want to abonded ghost with the recent success and go to a crippled team.
2018-10-17 03:24
Ethan, Cerq or Wardell would all be great
2018-10-16 20:14
#42
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
I'd agree
2018-10-16 20:19
Would love that as well, but it is not really realistic, they are happy in their current teams
2018-10-17 04:53
Idk, I feel like Wardell would definitely take the opportunity
2018-10-17 04:58
+1
2018-10-17 05:59
Ok yeah fair enough, I meant for more NRG...
2018-10-17 07:30
draken/rickeh/natosaphix/mixwell/xellow
2018-10-16 20:18
#43
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Spain JasonRacism 
Draken or Nifty
2018-10-16 20:20
#47
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
I'd rather neither, but if the team feels they could be great with either I guess I'll have to role with it, both are kinda trash and Draken and Flusha don't like each other
2018-10-16 20:22
#57
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Spain JasonRacism 
Theres no proof of Draken and Flusha not liking each other
2018-10-16 20:29
#60
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
Flusha was not playing well with the rest of the Fanatic players, they all voted to kick Golden even though he was playing well, and then Flusha got benched. Please tell me how they would work well together.
2018-10-16 20:31
#63
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Spain JasonRacism 
What is your idiotic logic? Styko literally just re-joined Mouz after 4 of them betrayed them, I'm pretty sure that's blatantly obvious that things can end and everyone still be on good terms
2018-10-16 20:33
#68
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
Did you not read about what he said about the roster?? Everyone didn't like each other and nobody was playing well together. How is that an "idiotic logic", just because Styko came back does not mean Flusha would want to come back, he even said he wanted something new
2018-10-16 20:35
#73
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Spain JasonRacism 
How the fuck does Draken = The entire Fnatic rosters issues? Maybe just maybe Flusha didn't like Xizt's way of calling and when the ENTIRE time voted to keep Xizt instead of Flusha, Flusha left, That in no way means Draken and Flusha guaranteed have personal issues with each other
2018-10-16 20:39
#78
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
I don't think it's going to happen m8, just because you want it to happen doesn't mean it will, why have Auti full time AWP if you are just going to sign another AWPer, makes no sense. I also feel Flusha does not want to play with any of those players due to the lack of chemistry and toxicity between flush and the others
2018-10-16 20:41
#90
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Spain JasonRacism 
Never said i wanted Draken to go to C9, Tbh i couldn't give a shit about C9 anymore, Just free Autimatic ffs, Autimatic's future 1000% isn't with AWPing, Don't be delusional, His little AWPing spree was probably just the last bitter of hope to see if Skadoodle could somehow perform well with a rifle instead of an AWP, That's just your lackluster opinion, Are you 12 and think if a player get's kicked from a team there is instant toxicity and bad blood between all players and the one kicked? Of course not ... Flusha just hasn't been performing well on Fnatic for year(s) and needed something different, Draken most likely had no part in his struggles on Fnatic
2018-10-16 20:51
#93
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
Dude are you just ignoring the parts where I pointed out what Flusha said din an interview??? Are you retarded or something? Its not an opinion when the players said there was toxicity in the lineup but it seems you're too brain dead to grasp the concept of something that was stated already
2018-10-16 21:38
#99
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Spain JasonRacism 
Source where Flusha said he didn't like playing with Draken? I see nothing, /Closed
2018-10-16 21:55
#116
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France spidergum 
Thanks sir
2018-10-16 22:35
DrAken and nifty are both downgrades from ska. I would rather they get wardell.
2018-10-17 03:25
#194
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Spain JasonRacism 
No they’re not, Don’t be delusional
2018-10-17 07:57
Look at stats then, lmao.
2018-10-17 14:05
#204
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Spain JasonRacism 
Retard thinking stats mean everything, Draken doesn't get to smurf against shit NA teams like eUnited and NV like Skadoodle does and get a free stat padding
2018-10-17 14:08
Even when fnatic went against "shit Na teams" they got raped by complexity 16-4... Retard automatically saying DrAken is better because he is eu.
2018-10-17 14:14
#206
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Spain JasonRacism 
Complexity is the new Winstrike ??? There a plenty of NA players that are better than EU players, Skadoodle in 2015 was one of them but the last 3 years no
2018-10-17 14:16
Complexity are not like winstrike at all the have pro league and Ecs spots something that winstrike don't have complexity also goes to a lot more tier 1 events than winstrike. Ska has been preforming a lot better than ska especially on lan he comes huge when it counts unlike DrAken who can barely get a good game going there is a reason he got kicked from two teams.
2018-10-17 21:21
#212
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Spain JasonRacism 
Complexity doesn't go to tier 1 events lol major was a fluke get over it
2018-10-17 21:22
Get over what? Are arguement is that complexity was the new winstrike even though they are clear ly not
2018-10-17 21:25
#216
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Spain JasonRacism 
Complexity 0-3 at Starladder lol
2018-10-17 21:25
Winstrike can't even qualify for starladder LMAO
2018-10-17 21:26
#218
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Spain JasonRacism 
They lost to Fragsters who did better than Complexity xD
2018-10-17 21:36
The qualifiers where a long time ago when they had a full roster EU BRAIN XD LMFAO
2018-10-17 21:31
Why'd u edit your comment? Did you realize that you have said something stupid?
2018-10-17 21:42
#221
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Spain JasonRacism 
Yes i said Fragstars instead of Fragsters but you're still NA brain xD
2018-10-17 21:43
#48
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Switzerland Odesza 
They knew ska will retire before auti started to awp Basically this means c9 won’t sing any awper and will seek out for rifler
2018-10-16 20:22
#53
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
That's my thinking as well
2018-10-16 20:25
#136
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China Slasher8888 
The best option for c9 imo, is to aquire members from different american teams if they want to remain American or majority american. I think at least for now, a great igl would be perfect. c9 has a stable awper, rifler and support player. I think at least imo, Hiko would be a great option. signing European players isn't necessary bad, but i don't think it's good for team chemistry.
2018-10-17 03:20
#49
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Brazil Mentecapto 
wardell if they want to become a t1 team again
2018-10-16 20:22
#52
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
agreed, I think nathE could get them there as well
2018-10-16 20:25
#113
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United States SlushyCup 
Wardell is a beast. I wouldn't mind that at all.
2018-10-16 22:27
Make Hiko great again.
2018-10-16 20:29
Probably Draken since GOLDN and Flusha have already played with him
2018-10-16 20:30
bring back n0thing
2018-10-16 20:31
#69
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
n0thing doesn't want to come back
2018-10-16 20:36
#66
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New Zealand Triggehhz 
bring back n0thing I doubt that Nahte or Brehze woulld join NRG is levels infront of C9 ATM
2018-10-16 20:34
#70
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
n0thing said he doesn't want to compete again, he likes being able to do what he wants
2018-10-16 20:37
+Wardell +Ethan(-flusha) +Seang@res(-golden) With this maybe C9 could be good again, but it is really sad that stewie destroyed the team
2018-10-16 20:35
#71
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
I'd like this, but I doubt Sean will ever come back, plus he frags way worse than golden, but his tactics could make up for it
2018-10-16 20:37
Sean tatics>>>>Golden, plus he’s the only IGL besides nitr0 and daps, but both would not leave their respective teams. I am pretty sure that Golden would not like to play with 4 NA
2018-10-16 20:40
#79
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
I mean he was willing to when he first was signed, so I don't see why not
2018-10-16 20:42
When he was signed they brought STYKO with him, wtf are talking about? And EU style is much more strctured and strategical than “Fucking Rush B bois”
2018-10-16 22:14
hmm but sean is definitely a better strategist than golden as you said.
2018-10-17 03:18
Yeah and he’s a free agent, so he could easily become a C9 player and, with Auti, Ethan and Wardell you can easily have firepower to work.
2018-10-17 11:38
They can’t have anymore European players or else wouldn’t be able to play in NA
2018-10-16 20:39
Where did you get this information from? Cuz is not true
2018-10-17 03:07
Doesn't matter how many NA players they have
2018-10-17 03:12
I was under the impression you needed atleast 3 players from a region in order to play throuhg the minor system there.
2018-10-17 03:30
You need 3 of the core members that qualified
2018-10-17 03:32
Ya but thats only for this next major, if they fail to make it to legends they have to play the minor and wont be able to in NA minor.
2018-10-17 04:20
#75
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Ukraine ksay 
it's not gonna be draken draken is basically a jdm. same shit rifles and inconsistent awp
2018-10-16 20:40
#82
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
and why have Auti full-time awp when you know you're going to sign another
2018-10-16 20:45
Also draken + flusha = no
2018-10-17 06:01
#84
simko | 
United Kingdom simko 
wouldnt mind seeing ScreaM personally
2018-10-16 20:46
#87
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
He has to have the right IGL to use him to his fullest
2018-10-16 20:49
#85
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Ukraine richUkrainian 
ez Adren
2018-10-16 20:47
#88
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
I wouldn't mind honestly, but I doubt he wants to come to NA
2018-10-16 20:49
AdreN***
2018-10-17 03:05
#89
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Norway NibbaDamn 
Draken to C9 confirmed))))
2018-10-16 20:51
PRONAX
2018-10-16 20:52
#92
autimatic | 
United States j_k 
oh hell yea
2018-10-16 21:36
#96
f0rest | 
United States PlusOne 
Sick would be a good realistic pickup. I don't see any of the NRG guys as realistic options.
2018-10-16 21:40
mixwell
2018-10-16 22:01
#101
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Turkey Thunderball 
Get woxic Ez
2018-10-16 22:05
most likely Stadodo he just left team zero
2018-10-16 22:06
c9 lineup auti RUSH -golden -flusha +wardell +nathE +daps
2018-10-16 22:07
Or +steel and get rid of the major. :)
2018-10-17 03:26
c9 wardell lmao, i don't see it happening but if they did it with stewie2k, i feel like they would add vice, he carries the fuck out of rogue
2018-10-16 22:16
I agree with Wardell not going to c9 not because he is bad but because ghost is looking better than c9 ATM.
2018-10-17 03:27
Dude, imagine that you’re a NA player. If fucking C9 trys to hire you, you would really think more than one time?
2018-10-17 11:39
If wardell is loyal to his team then yes.
2018-10-17 14:04
snax
2018-10-16 22:22
Assume AWP becomes shared like Liquid if AWPer not chosen. Tier 1 pick ups Ethan - I think this is the best pick up. You have three extremely good riflers in Autimatic, Ethan and Flusha plus an entry player in Rush who can entry tag team with Ethan. Excellent first bullet accuracy. Crazy multi-frag potential. He's the best young playmaker in NA this side of Twistzz. A Liquid buyout. Any of the big three. All for essentially the same reasons. This is the just throw barrels of cash liquid's way and make fun of them for being bad at LoL. A big Euro buyout. A simple esque buyout. Don't have a name for this but KennyS just recently refused to sign a contract. Only issue here is you'd be leading a player your way with money as the driving force. But a guy like Kenny could potentially completely change the team and make them extremely good. Tier 2 Cerq - Probably the best young AWP talent in the world barring Zywoo. His performance over the last couple months is concerning. His Bulgarian backround is concerning just in the context of team culture but the talent is absolutely there. JKS - An explosive rifler who I think could get much better on a a better team. Would likely fit in with the team on cultural level as he's played with NA players and shares a language and already lives here if I'm not mistaken. Draken - Still young. Has played with 2/5 of the team. I'm not a huge fan of the attitude and I don't like his flicky inconsistent ways. I think in many ways you are signing a younger less skilled Skadoodle with this type of move but he wants to go to NA so who knows it could revitalize him. Tier 3 Nifty - Another player I think could get better on a better team. I don't think his full potential has been shown yet. The problem is that is numbers have just always averaged out to be pretty middling. And that's with him playing against a lot of lesser Aussie/Asian teams in his time. But he's played CS less time then a lot of us. He could be perfect. Wardell - Not neccesarily a bad signing. This is the big X factor Stewie2k esque type of signing that will fail quickly or lead to greatness. It depends on how he handles the prestige and extra pressure of an org like C9. Sick - Good rifle talent. Hasn't showed the highs that a Twistzz, or Ethan or Brehze has in as big of situations but I like him and he's an NA player.
2018-10-16 23:18
you missed kioshima
2018-10-17 03:03
I have a problem with your list. 1Nathe being tier 1 and jks being tier 2 2.Draken being a higher tier than wardell and nifty.
2018-10-17 03:29
Draken has performed on a better team then wardell and nifty at a higher level. Just stats. Not sure if you think JKS should be a tier one or Ethan tier 2. I think both are pretty great rifle talents.
2018-10-17 04:41
Wardell has a higher rating than any of them. Draken and NIfty have had around the same rating but nifty was also igling
2018-10-17 04:46
Sure with online thrown in. Wardell is a huge chance type player. Tons of guys have come through that dominate online and can't do shit on LAN.
2018-10-17 04:52
We saw Wardell on lan and he played just as well
2018-10-17 04:54
Once? Draken and Nifty have so much more T1 tape it's ridiculous. Which is either good or bad depending. Unless C9 can literally pull KennyS which isn't happening or maybe Cerq I think the best available players are riflers. Just me though.
2018-10-17 05:40
C9 boltz Auti full AWP Boltz great entry player, can also play support very well and has sick spray control Underrated as fuck
2018-10-17 02:54
+1
2018-10-17 03:05
#135
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United States n3h 
Bolts is actually a really good replacement, since ska was mostly a support player.
2018-10-17 03:20
#153
g0d | 
Brazil L4x @.@ 
Boltz cant speak proper english and his contract end at the end of the year
2018-10-17 04:28
#127
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United States (Fr0st) 
Go for F9atic
2018-10-17 02:59
#133
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New Zealand KZPY 
nifty
2018-10-17 03:16
you have to consider that c9 needs support as well ska was playing supportive rifler so they are gonna need fire power and also need support and lets not forget that ska was the best clutcher on the team
2018-10-17 03:27
bring the fucking Shazam back ffs EDIT: Kick Golden for SEMPHIS. TY C9
2018-10-17 03:28
Nifty or jdm64 or disco doplan
2018-10-17 03:28
-10000000000
2018-10-17 03:29
#152
g0d | 
Brazil L4x @.@ 
Koosta
2018-10-17 04:27
Xantares
2018-10-17 04:43
No draken P L 0 X
2018-10-17 04:50
#159
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Brazil MarieLaMary 
draken kennyS ScreaM
2018-10-17 04:53
#162
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Sweden Dino1 
Cloud Nine Cloud Nin Cloud Ni Cloud N Cloud Clou Clo Cl C iC tiC atiC natic fnatiC This comment tho lel
2018-10-17 04:57
#167
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North America LedwigCS 
Wardell Cooper- Moose Relyks I think these 4 would be primary targets they can aim for.
2018-10-17 05:55
Yeah Cooper would make for a sick replacement. Or oderus if they want someone whos hyper aggressive but he has weak rifles and will have to be taught how to not push everything every round. oSee is more well rounded with good rifles and good AWP, also knows when to play aggressive and also when to play passive, but he is in a bit of a slump right now.
2018-10-17 05:58
draken because fnatic will literally sell him for $5.99 or about 6 chicken nuggets worth screaM is free cromen would probably not want to waste his career there unless they paid him a lot FNS unlikely maybe mirbit lul
2018-10-17 05:56
All EU players?
2018-10-17 05:57
cloud9 is a fucking mess. i don't want them touching ANY players that are currently under other orgs because they'll just fucking ruin everything. tldr i fucking hate c9 and i always hated them. just my shitty opinion
2018-10-17 05:58
I mean i doubt you care about anyone from MDL so they could always replace Ska with some MDL player
2018-10-17 05:59
i highly doubt that c9 will do something like that, although i dont remember if splyce was still in pro league when they took stewie into c9. AFAIK they usually just poach talent from pro league. actually, take nifty. that's the best you're getting from NA, C9.
2018-10-17 06:05
2018-10-17 06:18
i see well, if nV dont want to let go of nifty cheap then they can go for a risky pick from MDL. To be honest, no one really ‘stands out’ like stewie did. yeah, he was a ‘crazy overrated pugstar’ at the time but you dont really see much atm. i dont see any hope for this roster to perform anywhere near the peak of tier 2 cs.
2018-10-17 06:23
I mean the guys in MDL right now have a better rating than Stewie did in an actual team environment. oderus is a hyper aggressive AWPer with weak rifles but does hard work when you put an AWP into his hands. oSee is more of a balanced "pro league level" player even if this recent stats don't show it. I think hes in a bit of a slump but he has really really good rifles and AWP. He also knows when to go aggressive and when to go into turret mode. Both players are rough around the edges but with the coaching and ingame leading of Golden and valens, alot of the talent in NA MDL could become serious firepower for them. If they don't break through, whats the worst that can happen? They're sure as fuck not spending 200k for someone out of MDL like they did with FNS.
2018-10-17 06:27
haha, fns. all these recent roster changes of my once beloved csgo teams break my heart. fnatic booting golden and young lekro, nip taking a young talent and turning him into the igl to waste, fnatic taking the unwanted xizt and draken, mousesports picking up snax. the scene is in turmoil and all that wasted buyout money too.
2018-10-17 06:32
C9 made a shit decision kicking FNS imo. Golden would have been better off going to NiP and FNS could have stayed in C9 to institute his system. It would have saved C9 money and they could have used that saved money to buy some talent from pro league or MDL
2018-10-17 06:34
so many of these decisions have just been massive jokes. fnatic should have never kicked the two in the first place... smh
2018-10-17 06:36
Truth but they went full NA mode
2018-10-17 06:36
#171
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Brazil hugoooo 
fnx. Joking.
2018-10-17 05:58
#184
Sweden KcD 
I think they should pick up ISSAA. He proved in the major that he is a world class player, and I think it would be better for his development to get on an american team.
2018-10-17 06:29
No he should stay in EU
2018-10-17 06:35
#190
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Australia weapon_ 
Inc .. Cerq
2018-10-17 06:48
But why would Wardell downgrade? Only reason I can think of is that he can play in Majors.
2018-10-17 07:40
Viable 5th could be Cooper (Freakazoids brother) or an awper like Nifty .
2018-10-17 07:59
#197
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Brazil humkij67 
Lolitsalex
2018-10-17 09:25
#198
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United Kingdom TC10 
Sick could work
2018-10-17 09:29
+1
2018-10-17 10:12
#209
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United States BLNDSPT 
+ScreaM +Wardell ez top1
2018-10-17 20:05
last thing they need is another Pub* like asScreaM
2018-10-18 02:38
#233
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United States BLNDSPT 
I sort of understand what you just said
2018-10-18 13:28
#210
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Turkey Thunderball 
+scream +w0xic
2018-10-17 20:09
#214
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Europe MBT_yt 
Snax 5th
2018-10-17 21:23
Get hollands pride CHRISJ
2018-10-17 21:53
C9 haha
2018-10-18 02:38
jdm :> they need awp.
2018-10-18 13:30
true
2018-10-18 13:30
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