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Liquid is not even a t1 team
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Brazil SeeYouIn10Years 
A t1 team should be able to beat ANYONE and EVERYONE or have the potential to do so. Mibr is t1. Navi is t1. Faze is t1. Liquid is NOT t1. Now, that would be fine if they had some sort of a big win but Liquid doesnt even have ANYTHING to show for it ROFL. Their only show is winning cs summit(not impressive at all). Imo they’re on the same level as ence. Thoughts? Why would u consider liquid a t1 team?
2018-10-19 16:38
tldr
2018-10-19 16:39
Liquid is not T1
2018-10-19 16:40
ence > liquid
2018-10-19 16:41
#47
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Romania themightyflea 
+1
2018-10-19 18:25
OpTic > Ence > Liquid
2018-10-19 18:47
+1
2018-10-21 19:04
but they've won against everybody in t1, including astralis on lan
2018-10-21 19:15
He asked for a tldr It's not my opinion
2018-10-21 19:29
sorry man
2018-10-21 19:30
tldr liquid bad all choke no win ence is better 100%
2018-10-19 16:40
+1 brat
2018-10-19 16:40
but they've won against everybody in t1, including astralis on lan
2018-10-21 19:30
#2
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Netherlands ASIS 
t1 in choking.
2018-10-19 16:39
Renegades > liquid
2018-10-19 16:40
You will get a silent and respectful “xd“ from me Farewell
2018-10-19 20:45
#5
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United States Shadow272 
faze t1 and liquid not lmao even tho im a faze fan 0/8
2018-10-19 16:40
so faze isnt tier 1 last year then? they couldnt beat sk to save their lives the only team liquid cant beat is astralis
2018-10-19 16:40
Yes, sk was t1 and faze was t2
2018-10-19 16:41
0/8
2018-10-19 16:41
Its true, faze barely did shit. Even astralis with dennis almost beat sk.
2018-10-19 16:43
you act like faze were never close to beating them
2018-10-19 16:44
The only time faze was close to beating them was ecs s3 and with kio and allu
2018-10-19 18:10
yea unfortunately it seems that liquid is only able to beat them in a BO1
2018-10-19 18:45
#64
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United States AproximateCS 
Faze won stuff last year, liquid has only won cs summit their entire careers.
2018-10-21 17:05
+111111 OP is smart hltv user
2018-10-19 16:40
Chokequid is t2
2018-10-19 16:41
#18
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United States Shadow272 
mibr is t3
2018-10-19 16:43
If mibr is t3 FaZe is t5
2018-10-19 17:16
#68
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Brazil VeryMibrGuy 
+1
2018-10-21 17:13
Right above mibr
2018-10-19 16:44
#14
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Sweden Trkmag 
I stopped reading at ''mibr is t1''
2018-10-19 16:42
a tier1 team is anyone in the top 15 on a good day mr ding dong so yeah.. CS is random
2018-10-19 16:42
Liquid isnt god enough
2018-10-19 18:06
Being tier 1 Mibr Pick one
2018-10-19 16:43
#20
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United States Shadow272 
dont u get the bait he put faze and mibr as t1 but liquid as t2
2018-10-19 16:44
+1
2018-10-19 18:27
Liquid has created a new tier TierChoke(TierC)
2018-10-19 17:17
#26
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United States TriHardSeven 
How much?
2018-10-19 18:11
the last bit of some respect i had for liquid(omegalul)
2018-10-19 18:14
#30
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United States TriHardSeven 
0/8 Seen too many bad baits from you, how much did you lose betting on Liquid?
2018-10-19 18:15
#28
2018-10-19 18:16
#32
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United States TriHardSeven 
Don't bet man, not good!!
2018-10-19 18:16
or maybe liquid is garbage that can never win anything and should retire ASAP. Theres no excuse they cant win anything. Watching them get fucked by astralis in finals pissed me off. Just fucking forfeit and give ur spot to navi or faze
2018-10-19 18:18
#34
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United States TriHardSeven 
Cry is free bettor.
2018-10-19 18:18
Expected from 2 iq burger So now you're trying to bully me? It's obvious to everyone here you're projecting and salty. I won this a while ago hold you L kid and take my easy win. You're just a troll so I'm going to ignore you now and keep winning while you keep projecting its obvious to everyone reading. If you even think of replying to this it just shows how salty you are, kid.
2018-10-19 18:19
#37
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United States TriHardSeven 
0/8 Keep crying
2018-10-19 18:20
#41
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Denmark Asstralis 
Good arguements, you sure showed him LUL.
2018-10-19 18:21
#42
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United States TriHardSeven 
"You're projecting" This kid is literally projecting his saltiness on me. The hypocrisy is real, probably some 12 year kid who bets on Liquid and loses his allowance his mom gave him.
2018-10-19 18:22
#45
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Denmark Asstralis 
Seems like a budget george washington to me
2018-10-19 18:23
#46
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Denmark Asstralis 
btw he copied that segment from a thread OMEGALUL hltv.org/forums/threads/1905049/how-to-w..
2018-10-19 18:25
#48
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United States TriHardSeven 
Which is why I knew he is a 0/8 baiter.
2018-10-19 18:26
Liquid maintains their top 5 status by being the kings of second place finishes in tournaments, outdoing FaZe Clan and their #2ndplaceforever brigade
2018-10-19 18:11
Liquid is a loser. Losers do not belong in top 10
2018-10-19 18:14
That’s my point, it’s not morally correct to consider a team top 10 or t1 just because they can get second place at everything
2018-10-19 18:31
lol how is that possible? 9/10 teams would be losers with that logic
2018-10-19 18:46
#56
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India ShauryaGargTL 
Exactly , everyone except astralis is loser then basically
2018-10-19 18:50
"mibr t1" xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa best joke i've heard in a while. mib16-0r LUL
2018-10-19 18:19
#39
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Denmark Asstralis 
Liquids head to head vs astralis and mibrs head to head vs astralis Case closed
2018-10-19 18:21
-1
2018-10-19 18:31
#38
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United States Jamila 
By this logic, Astralis is the only T1 team
2018-10-19 18:21
#43
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Denmark Asstralis 
A t1 team should be able to beat ANYONE and EVERYONE or have the potential to do so Last time i checked, teams like navi or mibr didnt shit the bed like liquid did. Maybe north even but we never got to see that lineup again
2018-10-19 18:22
#57
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India ShauryaGargTL 
Mibr didn’t shit the bed 16-0
2018-10-19 18:50
#62
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Denmark Asstralis 
One time. Their most recent matchup was wayyyy more closer than liquid EVER got
2018-10-21 17:02
#71
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India ShauryaGargTL 
So? Liquid certainly have the potential to beat anyone and everyone
2018-10-21 17:41
#74
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Denmark Asstralis 
No they dont. They cant and never will beat astralis
2018-10-21 17:54
liquid is better than faze and mibr atm, mibr is the worst t1 team right now, shaky af havent read your whole post tho
2018-10-19 18:21
k
2018-10-19 18:22
stopped reading at mibr t1
2018-10-19 18:30
#58
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United States FoYzIE 
I think liquid are one of the better teams since they are second in hltv ranking I think we can beat anyone if all the stars are all going off
2018-10-19 18:54
#66
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United States AproximateCS 
But they literally can't win anything :p
2018-10-21 17:08
#73
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United States fatburger 
but they always get 2nd. If there was one big tourny to determine the rating. Obviously the team who got 2nd will be 2nd
2018-10-21 17:46
#59
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Asia fakedollface 
Team Liquid looks like a T1 team since they always get placed in 2nd or 3rd-4th, making it seem like they can dominate anyone below their level. But fall flat against mostly Astralis and other EU teams. They even lost to Mouz, a team well below them. They can only best fellow NA teams. Even so, the margin of error for losing is always a big one. I'd even go far as to say that Na'Vi is above them, winning 3 events in this year while liquid managed only one. Always placing 2nd or 3rd-4th isn't what a T1 team is supposed to be and isn't something to brag and be proud of. It shows that chokes can happen at the most pivotal moment in the stage. Their second place consistency shows that they haven't improved and reflected from what mistakes they did.
2018-10-19 18:56
you are literally describing vp right now yet they were considered a tier 1 team for years
2018-10-19 20:41
#67
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United States AproximateCS 
Vp won some stuff liquid has only won cs summit their entire career. Na'Vi is definitely more solid. Liquid just gets picked apart
2018-10-21 17:09
So by your logic NiP isn't tier 2 it's tier 1 Since NiP can win against any team and lose against any team.
2018-10-21 17:04
nip isnt t2 lol maybe like tier 1.5 if u dont want to consider them t1
2018-10-21 18:28
NiP is not tier 1. Their tier 2 since they lose against bad teams and win against good. By that way they can't be tier 1. But by the guys logic they are tier 1.
2018-10-21 18:49
by what guys lmao? t2 are vega, col, optic, gambit, heroic etc etc etc nip are better
2018-10-21 18:53
LMAO T1 Liquid,Navi, Astralis, T2 MIBR, NiP,North, Mouz, Faze. T3 Vexa, col, gambit, HR, Ence. NiP is not a T1 team. This comes from a NiP fan since 2012. How long have you been watching and playing the game? 2 years?
2018-10-21 18:56
the fact you are nip fan from 2012 (OMG WTF HE'S NIP FAN SINCE 2012. u expected this reaction or what?) doesnt make your opinion any more relevant. all teams you said as t2 are t1 also funny that u call liquid t1 in your "tiers" but put mouz mibr and faze to t2 EKSDEE
2018-10-21 19:00
Well dummy, being a NiP you should support the fact that NiP is a T1 team not be against it. I'm honestly not going to answer your 50 IQ arguments.
2018-10-21 19:04
your iq is even lower p.s. dummy is ur granddad
2018-10-21 19:05
Nice english. Says the guy that is afraid to show his flag.
2018-10-21 19:07
saying nice english and making grammar errors himself lmao afraid to show flag at site where u can put ANY flag ROFL also if u didnt know some countries are missing on hltv 50iq > your iq dummy is ur granddad
2018-10-21 19:09
i really feel like the next step for them is -taco
2018-10-21 17:06
#91
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Canada haroonscape 
man wat
2018-10-21 19:17
hes somewhat right if they could get like xyp9x instead they would be the best team in the world though its never gonna happen, but
2018-10-21 19:36
#100
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Canada haroonscape 
-taco +food
2018-10-21 19:38
0/8
2018-10-21 17:14
#70
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Hungary StraYzie 
Liquid t2, MiBR t1? LUL
2018-10-21 17:17
#72
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United States fatburger 
FAZE T1 LMAO
2018-10-21 17:44
+1 LIQUID >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FAZE
2018-10-21 19:34
#104
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United States fatburger 
"A t1 team should be able to beat everyone" - gyazo.com/0a26422a0c745b9b4c0cee9739cb95..
2018-10-21 21:25
nt hater
2018-10-21 18:58
#80
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Romania NuKe_001 
FaZe "can" beat "EVERYONE" yea sure and im Lord Gaben
2018-10-21 18:58
MIBR top 1 maybe in Brazil LUL
2018-10-21 19:02
#86
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Andorra fyroee 
only Astralis, Na´Vi and ENCE are t1 then
2018-10-21 19:06
#90
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Canada haroonscape 
half the teams right now cant even be put in tiers without making up a whole new tier system for 2018 alone
2018-10-21 19:16
Same lvl at ENCE can i have some of what youre smoking? sounds like youre having fun
2018-10-21 19:33
as*
2018-10-21 19:33
#103
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Denmark Asstralis 
Its true, liquid is trash
2018-10-21 19:41
#107
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United States fatburger 
gyazo.com/96486163385edcc3eb76e838507ca0.. so this is what a true t1 team looks like?
2018-10-21 21:28
#108
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Denmark Asstralis 
FIRst of all, its online and those opponents are decent.
2018-10-23 16:19
#109
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United States fatburger 
It’s not even all online and offline they have been doing horrible
2018-10-23 18:19
No one can beat astralis astralis only t1 tiem
2018-10-21 19:34
it dosnt work like that
2018-10-21 19:39
#102
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Liquid are a tier 1 team as far as the official definitions go...
2018-10-21 19:39
liquid is good, if you dont remember how bad were they with jdm and how much better theyve got since adding NAF maybe they are not even t1 but they are definitely the best team in NA
2018-10-23 18:22
#111
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Finland Taynz 
0/8 mibwholul is tier 3-4
2018-10-23 18:27
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