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SUNNY PLS DONT GO TO FAZE
B1ad3 | 
Hungary ImNATrash 
I know mouz doesnt pay that good,but please dont join that team,Niko is a spolit little brat who thinks he can do everything,but he is a shit igl,that team is destined to fail and choke every finals,and if just one tournament goes "horrible",crybaby niko is gonna say he will stop playing if no roster change happens,thats his weapon(see pgl major,he basically kicked allu and kio himself) PLEASE SPREAD THE MESSAGE
2018-10-20 20:57
SuNny will remain in mouz, dw
2018-10-20 20:58
#2
B1ad3 | 
Hungary ImNATrash 
i hope so
2018-10-20 20:58
#6
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Germany GODsuNny 
if he leaves i will change my name
2018-10-20 20:59
fake fan
2018-10-20 21:04
#72
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Canada haroonscape 
ez 4 ence
2018-10-21 02:45
u know nothing
2018-10-21 03:37
Jon Snow
2018-10-21 19:01
#3
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Japan AnimeMyLife^v^ 
"OK" -Sunny
2018-10-20 20:58
#4
B1ad3 | 
Hungary ImNATrash 
thank mr sunny
2018-10-20 20:59
#50
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Ukraine Edddddd 
what is your favorite anime TOP 3
2018-10-20 22:18
#74
pronax | 
Russia ShadTH 
boku no pico
2018-10-21 02:50
#79
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Poland big_boy_69 
ropzGOD top 1
2018-10-21 03:32
im feeling thank you
2018-10-21 03:59
sunny stays in mouz or go to ence no other option
2018-10-20 20:59
why would he go to ence? Ence is already really good with current roster.
2018-10-21 02:40
#99
JW | 
Finland Ilucs 
That logic isn't always the divine truth
2018-10-21 16:00
#7
shox | 
Turkey FrosTPunK 
karrigan has to go
2018-10-20 20:59
#8
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Sri Lanka ezfaze 
>niko will say he will stop playing if no roster change >same roster for 1+ year pick one
2018-10-20 21:01
he already did that once,results are not that bad now,but he is ready to do that
2018-10-20 21:04
#15
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Sri Lanka ezfaze 
source?
2018-10-20 21:05
it was an allu interview if i remember correctly,allu said that one of their teammates said he steps down after the major unless drastic changes happen(he didnt want to name anyone but we know it was not allu or kio,we can also cross out karrigan and rain,because they arent known as toxic idiots like niko)
2018-10-20 21:08
#35
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Sri Lanka ezfaze 
Karrigan in an interview said allu was toxic and didn’t allow them to practice well before the major. there was alot of internal problems and why allu was benched first before kio
2018-10-20 21:13
Yes allu was toxic lmfao, that was niko
2018-10-20 21:28
yeah definitely wasnt allu lmao he doesnt strike me as some toxic guy
2018-10-20 22:08
Yeah, Allu is the type of guy who doesnt say shit regarding others, and just tries to focus on himself playing as good as possible
2018-10-21 02:42
Allu spoke lots of shit about fifflaren in his stream after he got into Nip.
2018-10-21 18:51
#73
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Funny how NiP said the same thing about Allu lol, and we know NiP aren't bothered about being shit as long as everyone is good friends and their enjoying playing together but yeah the NiP players said despite Allu being a great player (he was their best player when he was on the team) he was toxic af and they didn't look back after kicking him.
2018-10-21 02:47
Allu wasnt toxic at all lol, he just didnt fit, due to his personality, he is very a quite guy probably didnt get on well out of the game
2018-10-21 03:00
#97
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Sweden Froxez 
All just speculations and opinions in this thread, no links to sources what so ever.
2018-10-21 15:57
#90
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Russia deadforest 
Could you give me any source about this please?
2018-10-21 12:49
#91
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Finland no_man 
His head
2018-10-21 12:54
#92
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Russia deadforest 
Fair enough.
2018-10-21 12:54
#96
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Sweden Froxez 
source?
2018-10-21 15:54
#9
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United States Bill_Bait 
Yes, because of you he changed his mind. All mousesports fans thanks you
2018-10-20 21:02
i know,thanks,but i dont deserve it,i just do what i believe is right
2018-10-20 21:06
#10
flusha | 
Germany felo 
SuNny to ENCE
2018-10-20 21:03
-xSeven -aleksib +SunNy +zehN make someone else igl
2018-10-20 21:05
#38
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Latvia sw1pe 
actually aleksib is doing a great job, hes igl and yet performing good unlike almost all other IGLs
2018-10-20 21:16
Yeah pretty much the only thing worth doing to ence atm is drop xseven for sunny, anything else is too big a risk
2018-10-20 22:03
#43
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Latvia sw1pe 
yeah, but again, then they will need to make some other player play support role..
2018-10-20 22:05
Who would you drop instead, aerial?
2018-10-20 22:08
#47
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Latvia sw1pe 
right now i wouldnt make a change yet, cuz everything is working perfectly for them..
2018-10-20 22:10
if sunny comes knocking, they would be out of their minds to not sign him.
2018-10-20 23:22
it would just be 2016 ENCE all over again. Lots of "great talent" put together but no results. If the current roster aint broken why change it?
2018-10-21 02:42
Because sunny is a world beating talent and ence is currently not a world beating team, it's pretty simple.
2018-10-21 03:14
#98
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Sweden Froxez 
"Lots of "great talent"" finnish xgod xarte?!
2018-10-21 15:58
its like dropping styko from mouz a support player they are used to. Imo ENCE needs more firepower so thats the only reason to kick xseven non less since aerial cant make all the frags so maybe they dont need a good support player that much considering their playstyle.
2018-10-20 22:16
Lmfao imagine not kicking kio and allu for GUARDIAN AND OLOF. Stop watching cs pls!
2018-10-20 21:08
rain??? rain has been in that lineup since 2015,also olof was washed up back then,and kio was a great support,allu was understandable,but niko literally said he will stop playing,unless a roster change happens after just one tournament
2018-10-20 21:05
I meant olof idiot. Im tired no sleep.
2018-10-20 21:08
oh i'm an idiot for you typo?i literally corrected it for you and replied as if you wrote olof u cretin
2018-10-20 21:08
You'd understand what i meant. It's logical. And niko is right. He can request whatever he wants because he is the best player.
2018-10-20 21:10
haha,look at his stats recently,also he believes he can igl,but he cant,and choke in every final,yeah "best player"
2018-10-20 21:10
So what should they do? Continue with Karrigan's "next level" strats?
2018-10-20 21:12
#44
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United States Nerfdoge 
Karrigans mid round calling is what makes him a good igl. Also his ability to utilize his players even in the basic strats.
2018-10-20 22:05
Mid round calling? Lmfao have you even watched Faze when he was calling. Their t sides have been garbage. And he proved at the major what kind of an igl he is. Choked at match point.
2018-10-20 23:56
And niko is 100%worse, so??
2018-10-21 02:37
#80
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Poland big_boy_69 
+1
2018-10-21 03:33
rain was in faze before kio and allu wtf
2018-10-20 21:05
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2018-10-20 21:08
#23
ropz | 
Germany VeryNoGuy 
Only reason to go to faze would be money for him, but mouz should also pay him much. considering they bought snax just for fun :D
2018-10-20 21:09
afaik mouz pay isnt good like other t1 teams
2018-10-20 21:09
#28
ropz | 
Germany VeryNoGuy 
what yre your sources for that info?
2018-10-20 21:10
they arent a rich org
2018-10-20 21:11
yeah, because vodafone is poor company as well xd
2018-10-20 22:26
They still not a rich org???
2018-10-21 02:40
one of the richest eu orgs.
2018-10-21 12:56
#24
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United States MATT_HARDY 
If Karrigan is not igl theres no point keeping him
2018-10-20 21:09
who would wanna play under niko igl??? their t side is even worse than ever,ct 13 rounds not enough for them
2018-10-20 21:10
your mom you fucking idiot
2018-10-20 22:20
Wtf
2018-10-21 02:39
#70
NiKo | 
Portugal B0real 
lul
2018-10-21 02:43
Baby NiKo wants mommy karrigan to help him in IGL and strats before matches
2018-10-22 07:23
he can do everything and with his talent he should be mad that hes not winning everything
2018-10-20 21:11
should be mad at his retardness
2018-10-20 21:11
and how he is better than you in every way?
2018-10-20 22:00
anyone who brings up "hes better than you" is the most retarded person of the entire thread period.
2018-10-20 23:28
Thx
2018-10-21 02:39
i hope he will stay in mouz but faze will die
2018-10-20 21:12
#37
ScreaM | 
Finland tanux 
i hope
2018-10-20 21:15
I hope
2018-10-21 02:38
#36
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Finland Taynz 
no it wasnt the case kio didnt want to play in that lineup
2018-10-20 21:13
Fake
2018-10-20 21:27
#48
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India grinchxd 
these kids think they know CS
2018-10-20 22:13
#52
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Netherlands ZoMilan 
Indian FaZe fan saying this btw
2018-10-20 22:19
#95
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India grinchxd 
and how does that change anything? go back to doing weed and crying about mouz being dogshit
2018-10-21 15:51
#100
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Netherlands ZoMilan 
I never said mouz was dogshit lmao, I'm happy where they are RN, btw they are better than FaZe :)
2018-10-21 17:47
#101
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India grinchxd 
lmao we’ll see today
2018-10-21 18:49
#106
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Netherlands ZoMilan 
We already know, mouz has beaten them last 2 tournaments with ease :)
2018-10-21 19:01
#108
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India grinchxd 
16-13 lmao
2018-10-21 20:27
#109
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Netherlands ZoMilan 
You know mouz are practicing inferno in online matches right?
2018-10-21 20:50
#114
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India grinchxd 
???you make zero sense retard
2018-10-22 06:56
#119
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Netherlands ZoMilan 
You made about 16-13?
2018-10-22 07:38
#51
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Netherlands ZoMilan 
If he'd join Ence, Ence might be a solud top 10 team actually
2018-10-20 22:19
Yeahh
2018-10-21 02:37
you know it's mostly hltv forum fantasy?
2018-10-20 22:20
#62
Ukraine edla 
too late bro by: sunny
2018-10-21 02:38
Noooo
2018-10-21 02:43
#81
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Poland big_boy_69 
oh no
2018-10-21 03:34
#71
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
TBF Mouz are over paying their players for the garbage they have, no one in that lineup deserves tier 1 money.
2018-10-21 02:45
Idk about that, they surely deserve it more than team ruiner niko
2018-10-21 03:01
#78
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
I mean Mouz won what 1 relevant tournament ever? Because liquid choked as they always do. NiKo won many already, also beat Astralis with 2 bots on the team hltv.org/matches/2322426/faze-vs-astrali.. Karrigan is useless and he took the IGL role which he already has done before on Mouz, only time they were ever relevant, he's shown he can still play high level while leading something Karrigan could never do. If you know Karrigan the only thing he brings to a team is fundamentals, which isn't important on a team with Olof, Guardian, NiKo these guys know what their doing and how to play CS properly not like a pug. Karrigan is the type of IGL that should be in a team building up young players, young Danish talents he has a lot to offer in that regard but if he is not the IGL of FaZe he is literally useless to them so some change has to be done obviously and I don't think Sunny is the right type of player for this team, I would take ChrisJ over Sunny any day the guy is so valuable he can awp, rifle, he isn't that bad of an IGL either.
2018-10-21 03:24
They had more success this year than faze
2018-10-21 03:49
What ? suNny is a top 10 player (better than rain), oskar top 15 player, ropz top 20 player
2018-10-21 12:58
#82
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Poland big_boy_69 
suNny won't leave mouz, and FaZe will probably implode in the next few months thanks to NiKo's huge ego. he wants to control everything, just like when he played in mousesports.
2018-10-21 03:36
#84
Sadokist | 
Myanmar xdcc 
NiKo = illuminati???
2018-10-21 03:47
#89
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Poland big_boy_69 
Yes.
2018-10-21 12:44
+1 niko is garbage
2018-10-21 03:48
The whole Karrigan thing is sad for him. Team lost faith after Boston. I think Karrigan is a great IGL but when your team loses faith even if they say outwardly to your face they are on board nothing good is going to come from it.
2018-10-21 04:09
not that i would want that, but if both teams got balls they could try to switch chrisj and karrigan and see how both teams manage it
2018-10-21 18:51
And it happens all the time to the same person. Same exact thing happened when karrigan was in Astralis. The problem is with karrigan. Maybe he doesn't have the leadership qualities to make his team to trust him. I saw this same thing all the time in the army. Some leaders can make their team to believe in any crazy goal and give their best. Some people can make the best plan in the world but not make their men to trust in it.
2018-10-21 18:57
It's funny you say that. I was in the Army myself. US of course. I agree they are definitely some NCO's in particular that can inspire young people and people in general to accomplish amazing things. Thing is I don't blame Faze's six round meltdown in game 3 of the major on Karrigan. That failure was a team effort. In fact C9 nearly won in the first OT except Karrigan came in and saved by outdueling Stewie to bring it 18-18. Unlike the army CSGO players haven't gone through a basic training of sorts where it's drilled into your head to trust your leader. I think Karrigan's problem is Niko. He lost the faith then. I think the fact that he's lead and helped build so many good line ups shows he's a pretty good leader. I could be wrong it's hard when you don't know the people involved. I find his current situation a little sad though considering his impact on the game. If I was a kid coming into CS I feel like a guy like Karrigan is one I'd want to soak up just about anything I could from.
2018-10-21 23:42
If sunny drops a 30 bomb vs FaZe today they will sign him ezz
2018-10-21 18:51
No player shud go to faze unless they kick karrigan That man is the reson teams chokke
2018-10-21 23:44
No thats niko
2018-10-22 00:05
Maybe but karrigan doing nothing If he not igl why do they want them his never frags much
2018-10-22 00:06
They don't even choke anymore though. Karrigans structure is very good to get a team performing very fast but long term it doesn't seem to bring success. It was the same with astralis(TSM) they were great at first and then fell off like faze now
2018-10-22 07:08
You do know that styko was very likely kicked because of sunny right? Sunny is budget niko and is doing the same things as niko
2018-10-22 07:06
SuNny is a smart man and wouldn't downgrade.
2018-10-22 07:07
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