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Liquid without Twistzz
Sweden notBlack137 
1 round MIBR finally is back
2018-10-21 03:02
playing with the coach , what you expect man?
2018-10-21 03:03
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Brazil 1AxeL1 
Not 16-1 bro.
2018-10-21 04:14
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India ShauryaGargTL 
Atleast they had coach , Mibr with full squad went 16-0
2018-10-21 04:34
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India krishna98 
BOI
2018-10-21 05:10
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Brazil 1AxeL1 
Yeah, i'm not defending mibr or "atacking" liquid, but it's ridiculous to say that with Twistz liquid would win, cmon, 16-1.
2018-10-21 05:17
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India ShauryaGargTL 
Ya I can agree tht twistzz is their carry
2018-10-21 05:22
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Brazil 1AxeL1 
Yeah but he doesn't do miracles.
2018-10-21 05:23
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India ShauryaGargTL 
As we said this , twistzz bottom fragged lol
2018-10-21 05:24
Comes to show how overrated igl and “tactics” are. Ie: Ex6
2018-10-21 04:47
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Spain JasonRacism 
Zews use to be pro, So obviously a more competitive match
2018-10-21 05:47
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swag | 
Germany Cr9N 
Honestly mibr woulda won that even with Twistzz playing. Theyre just all hitting shots.
2018-10-21 03:04
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Germany zeolikk 
MIBR is back because they won an online game vs basically 4 players yes
2018-10-21 03:04
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African Union ramrod 
expected from delusional brazillians
2018-10-21 04:31
In the end, because EPL don't allow match rescheduling, everyone loses out. ... The online season in NA has been garbage because of it. Honestly, hard to get motivated for these matches. Teams legit grinding out 12 matches a week over two leagues, no time to practice, and it's just straight garbage quality CS being played.
2018-10-21 04:07
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United States ferric 
Even then, Liquid is too good to not make it. But yeah they really need to make rescheduling easier.
2018-10-21 04:10
I don't even understand what the benefit there is in having online leagues anymore. ... It's literally a 1000*+ hour investment for four LAN evens (2 EPL/2 ECS), that have had notoriously terrible results because the seeding is always biased. At least if the matches were good I'd have a different opinion.
2018-10-21 04:15
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United States ferric 
Honestly, they should ditch the online leagues and create one big LAN league like Eleague Season 1. Those are entertaining to watch and have high quality CS, AND they have a big cash prize.
2018-10-21 04:14
The PEA tried that, but they (team owner collective) thought hiring Jason Katz was a good idea. In the end they shot themselves in the foot.
2018-10-21 04:15
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United States ferric 
PEA? Explain?
2018-10-21 04:16
You realize the whole point of the online portion is to cover the cost of the offline portion? Without the Facebook/YouTube deal and the online portion there'd be no EPL or ECS since the offline portion hardly makes any money.
2018-10-21 04:16
And that is one model for revenue/advertising/broadcast rights. It doesn't have to be the only model. No other esport, including DOTA2 (Facebook deal), has these played out leagues at the professional level. It's mostly online qualifiers & LAN leagues. ... Only thing close (iirc) are the OWL Challengers & LoL Academy leagues. If these organizers are dependent on online CS to even be close to breaking even, then the professional scene itself isn't in a sustainable spot. Maybe its time to burst that bubble.
2018-10-21 04:27
DOTA 2 has insane support from Valve. Valve runs an insane amount of tournaments for DOTA 2 whereas in CS they run 2 per year. To say that CS isn't sustainable because we have 2 online leagues is ridiculous. You may not like the online leagues but if that's their way of making money then so be it. We have an incredible amount of LAN only tournaments already, 2 online leagues is not a lot.
2018-10-21 04:30
> If these organizers are dependent The whole point is there are different models to make money. And sooner rather than later, the players won't be even be playing in these leagues. They already seem to be past the point of taking them seriously.
2018-10-21 04:34
They're dependant on the online portion to make money off of this specific tournament, not overall. EPL has been a staple in CS:GO for a long time and it is pretty much the only big league that smaller teams can fight towards through a system of smaller leagues. EPL is a very important tournament for the eco-system of CS regardless of how we feel about online CS. Of course some teams aren't going to take it 100% serious, they have to play like 4 games a day sometimes, it's just too much. But they dont have a choice since there's a fucking million LAN tournaments and if ECS and EPL split up the weeks it'd be 8-10 weeks of online play instead of 6 or whatever it is now.
2018-10-21 04:41
The last time I've read Turtle Entertainments financials (via. MTG), they're dependent on online for more than just this "specific tournament". Those views for online play (& hours of content consumed, etc. etc) are/have been a focal point in trying to sell broadcast rights. And AFIAK, they've been consistently in the red since introducing EPL (& buying ESEA). Online qualifiers exist for almost every event (besides these two). ESEA have been trying to structure MDL like it's the new invite (prior to EPL). The eco-system is and has been changing.
2018-10-21 04:50
The money made from the online portion is used to pay for the offline portion and not for tournaments like IEM or ESL One, that was my point. Whether or not they use the viewing numbers etc for other purposes was not the point and not something I have any insight into. I never said online qualifiers don't exist. There are obviously plenty of them but they're mostly for lower-tier teams like AGO, LDLC etc. Top teams like Astralis, Liquid, MIBR etc never have to play online qualifiers since they're always directly invited or they just wouldn't attend.
2018-10-21 04:56
liquid without twistzz is like india without toilets
2018-10-21 04:17
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India ShauryaGargTL 
Pakistan rofl
2018-10-21 04:35
#26
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
INDIA LULLLLL
2018-10-21 05:07
Hahaha
2018-10-21 05:32
#35
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
FORSAKEN LUL
2018-10-21 05:40
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Brazil choseN^ 
What happened to twistzz?
2018-10-21 04:21
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Zews is really bad online, he was much better when he played at LAN with Liquid.
2018-10-21 04:52
#25
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
What happened to Twistzzz
2018-10-21 05:06
#29
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Brazil candymau 
went to shop to buy some hairfix
2018-10-21 05:18
#30
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
OHHH
2018-10-21 05:18
prntscr.com/l8if4k liquid with twistzz OMEGALUL
2018-10-21 05:44
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