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Swag - wtf
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Poland ZimmyS 
Why person who sold match is still on competitive scene?
2018-10-22 21:05
#1
ropz | 
Poland PSZ 
true
2018-10-22 21:05
lmao
2018-10-24 22:03
why person like u is on hltv?
2018-10-22 21:06
#5
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Poland ZimmyS 
Because i'm passionate about counter strike.
2018-10-22 21:07
then u shouldnt cry
2018-10-22 21:08
#28
swag | 
Lithuania Kyper69 
+1
2018-10-22 21:24
#67
witmer | 
North America KeiKei 
>passionate about cs >complains about watching interesting players because they did bad thing 4 years ago :(((((
2018-10-23 01:46
wait, that even doesn't make sense
2018-10-24 19:14
#104
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France theJpay 
>passionate about cs >complains about watching interesting players because they did bad thing 4 years ago :(((((
2018-10-24 19:18
#110
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Poland ZimmyS 
He's sooo interesting, especially after he threw the game for money.
2018-10-24 21:22
#130
smooya | 
Sweden jackir 
>passionate about cs >complains about watching interesting players because they did bad thing 4 years ago
2018-10-24 21:41
#134
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Poland ZimmyS 
Interesting player is Device or gla1ve they have great story (especially gla1ve). Not the player who sold himself.
2018-10-24 21:43
#136
smooya | 
Sweden jackir 
signed up a year and 6 days ago.
2018-10-24 21:45
shiiit, cause that means anything LOL
2018-10-24 21:45
#138
smooya | 
Sweden jackir 
it implies you haven't watched that long, meaning you can't possibly say who's interesting cuz you haven't watched everything 2 years ago
2018-10-24 21:46
#142
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Poland ZimmyS 
There are many people who watch cs 10+ years and still don't have account on forum.
2018-10-24 21:50
You're braindead as fuck dude, just read what you wrote.
2018-10-25 14:42
#141
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Poland ZimmyS 
Actually I'm watching cs many years, I just didn't have account on forum.
2018-10-24 21:47
#143
smooya | 
Sweden jackir 
then you're stupid or very very very very etc... nitpicky
2018-10-24 21:57
i believe it's time for you to have a nap, mate.\ maybe you'll think a bit clearer if you're rested.
2018-10-26 08:46
#170
smooya | 
Sweden jackir 
shut up yer not ma wife
2018-10-26 09:52
#173
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Poland ZimmyS 
Ehh...
2018-10-31 23:43
#171
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Poland ZimmyS 
+1
2018-10-26 17:06
Because the site is meant for people with below average intelligence and above average self confidence?
2018-10-24 19:17
#113
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Poland ZimmyS 
Ehh...
2018-10-24 21:25
hey no i fucking hate myself
2018-10-24 22:15
so you're an exception
2018-10-24 22:26
+1
2018-10-26 09:27
#4
Europe Cirro 
+1
2018-10-22 21:07
"NA's best hope" lmao
2018-10-22 21:08
#114
Sadokist | 
Myanmar xdcc 
swag "NA best player", AZK "NA best support", dazed "NA best IGL" all shit vs NA toxic boi steel
2018-10-24 21:26
#175
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Poland ZimmyS 
xd
2018-11-07 16:07
#8
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Poland henlo 
one of them even won a major
2018-10-22 21:08
#15
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Netherlands WitnessMe 
true... should've never ever happened
2018-10-22 21:13
#51
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Ukraine mortydefiled 
henlo just greeting my friendly neighbour
2018-10-22 21:35
#70
witmer | 
North America KeiKei 
he didn't even receive any skins what was skadoodle supposed to do? "sorry guys all 4 of you can throw while i try my hardest to win this mach!" he didn't deny the skins because of whatever shit thooorin said he didn't want to throw at all but did he have a choice to play the match or not?
2018-10-23 01:48
#122
Sadokist | 
Myanmar xdcc 
+1 by that logic scream should be banned hltv.org/news/14145/gmx-scream-was-not-i..
2018-10-24 21:28
#157
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
IDK I think it was really stupid he didn't get banned cause he clearly threw if you watch the match, I get he didn't receive his payment for match fixing but if you actually watch the game he was throwing, he let steel awp, he wasn't aimming properly, he wasn't trying etc I don't give a fuck about what he wanted to do or didn't in the match he CLEARLY threw, lucky he wasn't banned because Valve are pure retard just because he didn't get any assimovs he didn't receive ban? It's like killing someone then telling the judge I didn't want to kill this person so you shouldn't give me punishment etc.
2018-10-25 15:00
#160
witmer | 
North America KeiKei 
You must be deranged or fucked in the head or something because it doesn't matter whether he threw or not because literally nothing he did would've changed the outcome of that match. Tell me, what do you do when your entire team is throwing, and you don't want to? Do you just not play the match? Of course not idiot you have to play the match and you can't 1v5 so you just deal with it. He didn't want anything because he wanted nothing to do with the throw because he was innocent. Also don't try to compare throwing a game to fucking murder that is retarded. If you are going to compare it to murder, compare it to a group of 5 people, where 4 people murder 1 guy, but the 5th member didn't do anything and was just forced to watch.
2018-10-25 21:24
#163
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
"literally nothing he did would've changed the outcome of that match." Not true this happened at a time where Skadoodle was actually good at the game if he awped properly he could of shit on NCG. The fact he chose to actually not try in essence to lose on purpose to match fix is on him, he could of tried if he wanted to and even if they still lost people would watch the demo back years ago and feel content this guy actually didn't throw. Literally only didn't get banned because of timing, everyone was paid out their throw skins and it took the guy longer to get Skadoodle's share and by that time the story was already out there so he obviously turned down the payment. Just think for a second if no one suspected a thing (they made the throw as obvious at it gets) he would of taken his reward and been banned as well but again timing was on his side. I can compare throw to anything I want, in essence is pretty equal if you really think of the situation it doesn't have to be a murder either just any crime and standing in front of the judge telling them I didn't want to do it (the act is already been commited) doesn't change the out come of your sentence. "compare it to a group of 5 people, where 4 people murder 1 guy, but the 5th member didn't do anything and was just forced to watch." So you're saying he should of been punished? This logic would mean he's an accessory to the murder which is still a crime. If we apply this logic which is fair enough imo he would of still been punished and that's why I don't get why he wasn't just because he didn't accept his payment, he still match fixed, he played like shit on purpose, he's the main awper and he didn't awp, he purposely missed his shots and did retard plays he threw simple as that.
2018-10-26 03:34
#165
witmer | 
North America KeiKei 
doesn't matter what you say because if he didn't take any money or anything there is no proof of him throwing and any good lawyer can dumb it down to "he could've just been having a really bad game, and since there was no proof of him receiving any money, what did he do wrong?"
2018-10-26 08:41
Astralis fan just mad because cloud 9 won astralis at boston major, and thats why astralis didnt make it to the playoffs
2018-10-26 09:00
#9
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Japan Monglulz 
Brax will eliminate VP tomorrow, Cry is free <3
2018-10-22 21:08
#46
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Poland Kocykeee 
who?
2018-10-22 21:33
#61
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Poland SalamiXgod 
Braxton Swag Pierce
2018-10-22 22:34
Swag(laughs) whats...(laughs even more) your name? —Shazam BRAAXTOOOOOOOON —Braxton “swag” Pierce
2018-10-23 01:50
#90
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Poland Kocykeee 
understandable have a great day
2018-10-23 07:00
0/8
2018-10-22 21:08
because he was actually the one that did not want to do it he was talked into or if u want it ro be more precice ... he was forced
2018-10-22 21:11
skadoodle*
2018-10-22 21:13
no ... he left before that happened (before the scandal)
2018-10-22 21:13
#18
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Turkey rusty james 
no he just didnt receive the skins because he got cold feet. hence no evidence for volvo to ban him as well.
2018-10-22 21:14
That's been proven to be false
2018-10-24 19:17
#14
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Turkey rusty james 
lmao not really he was just a minor doesnt mean he was coerced
2018-10-22 21:13
#19
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Poland ZimmyS 
Skadoodle refused. Swag at that time was young, but not that young to not take responsibility for his decisions.
2018-10-22 21:14
#38
ropz | 
Poland PSZ 
his parents should go to jail for acts what he do in past
2018-10-22 21:31
Skadoodle didn't refuse, he threw the match as well. He just got lucky and never took his skins after the story broke.
2018-10-23 01:48
#79
Sadokist | 
Myanmar xdcc 
yes, I too do not take money for no reason whatsoever and get lucky because of it. steel just salty af by that logic scream should be banned.
2018-10-23 02:08
The person who was holding all of their skins ran out and couldn't give skadoodle his share at the same time as the other guys, and when the guy came back later with the skins, skadoodle opted at that time not to take them because the story of them throwing already was out.
2018-10-23 02:52
#85
Sadokist | 
Myanmar xdcc 
OK, show me chatlogs then of him refusing? Scream was in a team with throwers. Maybe he didn't accept either?
2018-10-23 03:06
youtube.com/watch?v=j4neSuClbEA You've got it explained right here. Impressed you haven't seen it though.
2018-10-22 21:13
He didnt throw he's too skinny, think about that what other arguments against my boy braxton swag pierce do you have now huh
2018-10-22 21:14
#20
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Poland ZimmyS 
He ate skunk candy on one lan and this throw was his revange.
2018-10-22 21:23
sad
2018-10-22 21:23
#30
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Poland ZimmyS 
Yes it's really sad, but it doesn't justify him for what he did.
2018-10-22 21:24
#56
Sadokist | 
Myanmar xdcc 
too skinny? playing in swole patrol? nt
2018-10-22 21:37
you dont need to have good muscle to join Swole Patrol nt
2018-10-22 21:41
#60
Sadokist | 
Myanmar xdcc 
so its like cops?
2018-10-22 22:32
#21
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Finland muglobal 
xd
2018-10-22 21:22
I got summer on my mind!
2018-10-22 21:22
VP also sold many matches still paly even major :)...
2018-10-22 21:23
#25
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Poland ZimmyS 
Prove it or i'll kill you. xd
2018-10-22 21:23
#39
ropz | 
Poland PSZ 
Prove it or i'll kill you. xd
2018-10-22 21:32
#53
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Poland Altimator 
hahahaha you make me day
2018-10-22 21:36
hahahaha you make me day
2018-10-24 21:34
#24
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Sweden Slappy :) 
"Person who sold match". I get what you mean but funny english.
2018-10-22 21:23
#27
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Poland ZimmyS 
Thanks.
2018-10-22 21:23
jealous because no polish scene?
2018-10-22 21:24
#31
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Poland ZimmyS 
I'm not jealous.
2018-10-22 21:25
#41
ropz | 
Poland PSZ 
china scene xd, get rekt in LOL and also CSGO everytime lul'd
2018-10-22 21:32
#64
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Poland ZimmyS 
xd
2018-10-23 01:35
#32
swag | 
Sweden frozze90 
you have no clue... He has been banned for YEARS. He is still banned from valve events, probably gonna be for a long time...Tho he has been unbanned from pretty much everythin else. so yes hes playing.
2018-10-22 21:26
So swag will be god at Source 2, right? If volve understand that their game is dying and NA became shit, they will probaly free brax.
2018-10-23 01:55
#87
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Greenland AkiKleist 
Why care about a thrower, when there’re at least 2 young up-incoming players like oBo or s0m. Maybe more
2018-10-23 03:13
s0m, omegalul. Brax is considered by many pro players and analyst as the most prodigious kid at NA.
2018-10-23 17:17
#97
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Greenland AkiKleist 
s0m knows he has a lot of chances to get into NA scene with no problem, right now he is and still behaves like a kid. Understandably because he is still going through puberty, while swag CANNOT play in Valve sponsored tournaments, because you obviously know, he threw a match along side iBP
2018-10-23 19:23
#33
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Myanmar almighty_so 
2018-10-22 21:27
#35
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Poland ZimmyS 
Ex-esc did nothing wrong.
2018-10-22 21:30
#36
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Myanmar almighty_so 
matty michi ? still active
2018-10-22 21:31
#42
ropz | 
Poland PSZ 
dude who, they are fcking no-names
2018-10-22 21:32
#47
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Myanmar almighty_so 
hltv.org/news/13437/alsen-caught-losing-.. Some of them are ESC's Karol "rallen" Rodowicz who put the maximum value and won over $1,000 worth of items, his teammate Mikołaj "mouz" Karolewski with this bet and u think they dont fix as well? if they had info about matchfixed games ? :)
2018-10-22 21:34
#48
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Poland ZimmyS 
If they sold matches then they should be banned too. I don't care about nationality or status of person who made match fixing.
2018-10-22 21:34
#50
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Myanmar almighty_so 
#47
2018-10-22 21:34
#34
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Germany add_aykeN_ffs 
>Fan of Kinguin There are 3 Matchfixers in your Team.
2018-10-22 21:27
#37
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Myanmar almighty_so 
+1
2018-10-22 21:31
#43
ropz | 
Poland PSZ 
Prove it or i'll kill you. xd
2018-10-22 21:33
#45
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Poland ZimmyS 
Evidence please. If u have evidance then yes, they should be banned then. Every person involved in match fixing should be banned forever on the comeptitive scene.
2018-10-22 21:33
#40
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Canada haroonscape 
remember when pasha bet against himself because the game was prerecorded
2018-10-22 21:32
#44
ropz | 
Poland PSZ 
Prove it or i'll kill you. xd
2018-10-22 21:33
#49
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Canada haroonscape 
those sober things you are saying, are you boyfriend? or is it what you say after making pierogi to your prove?
2018-10-22 21:34
#54
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Myanmar almighty_so 
yes, but this matchfixing scum wasnt banned ofc :)
2018-10-22 21:36
pasha fraud school
2018-10-22 21:37
#78
Sadokist | 
Myanmar xdcc 
would you even go to fraud school? to learn from people who scam others?
2018-10-23 02:06
Legitimately reported
2018-10-22 21:36
#55
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Poland ZimmyS 
Why?
2018-10-22 21:37
why s1mple cheat and still allowed to play hmmmm
2018-10-22 21:37
#77
Sadokist | 
Myanmar xdcc 
because s1mple is in navi who has connection with esforce who has connection with ESL. its all a conspiracy
2018-10-23 02:05
#62
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Brazil fuNNa 
because of trump
2018-10-22 22:34
#63
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Poland SalamiXgod 
Bad b8 0/8
2018-10-22 22:35
why no english lesson in poland?
2018-10-23 01:42
#68
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United States circles308 
Everyone makes mistakes man, you never did something you regret? come on brah
2018-10-23 01:47
Coming from poland. Vp did the same scummy shit and never got banned.
2018-10-23 01:47
Should someone who commited a crime be put in jail forever?
2018-10-23 01:59
#76
Sadokist | 
Myanmar xdcc 
yes. steal, white collar, jaywalking all to jail
2018-10-23 02:03
Depends on the crime but yes
2018-10-23 02:19
#95
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Sweden Trkmag 
No but he committed a borderline criminal act, so of course banning him from playing a game would be a reasonable punishment
2018-10-23 19:06
#75
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Brazil gabrielac00 
#freeforsaken
2018-10-23 02:01
#80
forsaken | 
Europe rEdYy 
he was forced to sell the match for skins #OmegaLUL
2018-10-23 02:09
C9 need forsaken he can still play major
2018-10-23 03:06
+ took one more chance to play on lan - late on flight 3 times
2018-10-23 05:47
#101
ropz | 
Poland PSZ 
What he dosen't have his own mind?
2018-10-24 19:15
late on tourney he should play not an indicator that he had mind
2018-10-24 21:18
its more like he hasnt
2018-10-24 21:19
#94
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Sweden Trkmag 
+1
2018-10-23 19:04
Hahaha just kicked vp out of the tournament
2018-10-23 19:07
#98
ropz | 
Poland PSZ 
they just sold this match, obvious af
2018-10-24 19:12
#99
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Brazil cadik 
tier 500 counter strike event does not relate to pro scene thats why and thats why navi is here (farming stats in tier 500 as always, s1mple #CSGOD [of tier 4 tournaments])
2018-10-24 19:13
#108
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Russia warmike_1 
in no other sports match fixers receive a LIFETIME ban.
2018-10-24 21:20
Why person who sold match is still on competitive scene?
2018-10-24 21:21
#111
Sadokist | 
Myanmar xdcc 
+1 they were lucky there were no repercussions outside of cs considering money was involved
2018-10-24 21:23
#112
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Poland ZimmyS 
+1
2018-10-24 21:24
If it happend today in the tier 1 scene it definetly would have been.
2018-10-24 21:26
#116
SPUNJ | 
Latvia XYPyra 
But betting on yourself after game is preplayed is ok? Talking about VP
2018-10-24 21:26
#118
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Poland ZimmyS 
Yes, it's fault of betting site.
2018-10-24 21:27
#121
SPUNJ | 
Latvia XYPyra 
Do you think it's ethnical to bet on yourself while knowing that you have won/lost?
2018-10-24 21:28
#123
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Poland ZimmyS 
No it's not ethical, but still it's betting site mistake.
2018-10-24 21:29
#124
SPUNJ | 
Latvia XYPyra 
Tell me why it's betting sites mistake?
2018-10-24 21:30
#125
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Poland ZimmyS 
They made possible to bet on match which was already played.
2018-10-24 21:31
#145
SPUNJ | 
Latvia XYPyra 
but both did same, bet on theirselfs, and VP has pretty many shady things about throwing.
2018-10-24 22:12
#147
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Poland ZimmyS 
If they threw the game and anybody can prove it, then they should be banned too.
2018-10-24 22:16
#117
s1mple | 
Netherlands just3n 
got himself a good 'ole fire demo tape.
2018-10-24 21:26
should have been in jail for this, min. 10 years
2018-10-24 21:28
#129
ropz | 
Poland PSZ 
he cannot because of age, but his parents should be in prison
2018-10-24 21:40
#161
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Poland ZimmyS 
xd
2018-10-26 00:48
its all about that cash yooo
2018-10-24 21:41
#132
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Poland ZimmyS 
Guys you don't understand how disappointed fan of IBP could be in that time, like trusting all those players and they didn't care just threw the game. Also imagine people who bet large amount of money if this wouldn't be revealed. They didn't care about fans, about people who trusted them and I don't care time passed and thankfully Valve understand this.
2018-10-24 21:41
Coz he is american and u r indian Nt forsaken
2018-10-24 21:43
since idiots say that he should be unbanned he was from esl and other events btw all ibp banned players are actually shit rn and will never be in top 10 so it doesnt fucking matter if they are banned or not
2018-10-24 21:46
ofc they arent as good now since they have been inactive for so long but if they were never banned they would likely be top 5 team
2018-10-26 09:13
#140
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Belarus @Bitly 
There is like 100 threads asking the same question.
2018-10-24 21:47
#150
byali | 
Japan KasPro 
exactly
2018-10-24 22:32
#151
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Poland ZimmyS 
Thank you.
2018-10-24 23:40
he still believes that one day he will be unbanned from major sponsored events but that will never happen
2018-10-25 14:43
SO YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT IBP THAT THREW MATCH FOR SOME MANY (SAME LIKE FOOTBALL PLAYERS, ISNT'T IT?). WHAT ABOUT KQLY, HE IS UNBANNED.
2018-10-25 14:44
kukli only try cheat in pub match ))) unlucky becuase he was pretty much top 1 (at least top 3)
2018-10-25 14:48
It isn't important if it is pub match or major, he was cheating so he got banned....
2018-10-25 16:03
#155
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Myanmar almighty_so 
hltv.org/news/12476/csgolounge-on-bettin.. dont forget about matchfixing poorlaks since 2014
2018-10-25 14:47
People only care when someone gets caught. Lol vp can throw and no one cares. S1mple can cheat and no one cares. Flusha is forsaken of 2015 no one care. XD
2018-10-25 16:05
wróć do swojej dziury
2018-10-26 00:49
#172
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Poland ZimmyS 
What do you want from me?
2018-10-31 23:37
#164
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China Yao_Ming 
lol you nerds are so naive. Chinese match fix daily, Virtus.Pro were famous match fixers back in the day, Pasha was extremely fake saying he loves his fans too much to throw, and look where they are at now. Karma hurts. Also, Flusha blatantly was cheating, if you dont think so, you are blind
2018-10-26 03:41
#174
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Poland ZimmyS 
ok
2018-11-04 20:56
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