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sarna | 
Poland xDEUCE 
Heyho, I am planning to upgrade my cpu cause of low fps in cs;go currently i have: - i5 6500 -gtx 950 -some dogshit gigabyte b150m motherboard -16gb ram, good ssd and psu So, I'll probably upgrade to Ryzen 5 2600x next month and I wanna ask u if it's worth(cs;go only for now). Atm intel prices in poland are terrible and I think buyin that ryzen + new motherboard will be cheaper than buying only intel cpu(also need to upgrade my mb in most cases too) Are there any ryzen 2600 users? If yes please tell me your fps in cs and if u are satisfied with it, I never bought AMD stuff in my life so i'm kinda worried based off eariel opinions with their older hardware. What shall I do, plx help hltv xgods
2018-10-23 01:07
When it comes to FPS in csgo Intel > AMD Also find it hard to believe you have low fps with that config.
2018-10-23 01:18
#3
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
Gigalul this is 2018 not 2014. Ryzen line ups are just as good.
2018-10-23 01:23
#18
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Finland tUbee 
And Intel has better single core performance, which is better for cs:go.
2018-10-23 13:26
#158
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Iceland fatboislim 
sure but amd fps/$ costs less.
2018-10-23 22:04
#20
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World ZMDR 
ryzen is great for multi threaded worloads, not for single threaded applications like csgo, or esports games in general.
2018-10-23 13:30
#32
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
Yeah better but definitely can't justify price/performance for 30 fps boost. If OP plays with 240hz monitor ,which I highly doubt, yeah get the 8700k. The believe that AMD lineups are bad for e-sports is just wrong. Ryzen is just as good, I upgraded from 6600k to 1600 and never look back. I play with 144hz monitor and get constant 200+ fps while having a triple monitor set up. I can have anyshit running in the background and the game runs fine.
2018-10-23 14:34
#33
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World ZMDR 
Its not "just as good". Its almost as good. Theres a difference, but yeah I do agree its better value.
2018-10-23 14:44
#39
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Europe EUR0PE 
Triple Monitor setup here aswell. 400fps+ I5-4690k. And you want to Tell me the 1600 is better than the 6600k?
2018-10-23 16:11
#40
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
Yeah tell me now what res and setting you're playing? For simplicity 200+ FPS for Ryzen is on 1080p native. I can get 300fps if I play around with my res no problem and the most important thing is the stability. Getting above 144fps constantly. You can have 800+ fps but if you play with 60hz monitor it doesn't make any difference. see here youtube.com/watch?v=Wg45etRGhpw (300fps useless but still proof that 1600 can get it) Also, I own both processors and I've experienced that R5 1600 > 6600k. So now, tell me why OP has to pick up 6600k compare to the superior 2600?
2018-10-23 16:24
#45
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Europe EUR0PE 
I also play on 1080p, there are literally no frame drops always 350-450. Ofc it makes a difference if you have above 60 fps or not even with 60hz, you can easily feel the difference between 60 and 100+. I also never stated that OP should buy the 6600k instead 2600x, even tho it would be better to go for the i5 since im sure he will be gaming and the i5 beats the ryzen gaming and desktop use. also I've just said that the 1600 is worse than the 6600k not that the 2600x is worse. But anyway expected from triggered fanboy.
2018-10-23 17:16
#66
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
Fanboi? I literally just said I own 6600k. What are you smoking on kid? youtube.com/watch?v=NdK_te8SnYY this is your CPU. Even my 6600k > 4690k. But comparing price/performance R5 1600>6600k 60 - 100 fps yes matter but above 200+fps you can't feel the difference with a fucking 60hz stop being delusional and quit using drugs. R5 1600 will give you no problem in 200+fps with massive discount compare to its coffee lake competitor. The discount he can then use to upgrade GPU or buy good memory sticks. You know you can OC 1600 to at least 3.7Ghz right? 2600 base is 3.4ghz. Fully OC 1600 probably in the 5-10% margin difference with a fully OC 2600. Both > 6600k. Performance wise yes coffee lake still superior for single core performance which happens to be used more often for e-sports title. But if you READ what OP stated, he is tight in budget making Ryzen the better solution. There's no way today that buying a new 8600k is a better value than R5 2600. But seriously how do you get 450fps with your 4690K in 1080p native? Are you being delusional? Blind? or you just sit in spawn in fps booster workshop map? I know you can lie on the internet but yours is too much. Sorry, I meant expected from a triggered fanboy.
2018-10-23 17:37
#70
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Europe EUR0PE 
Lol the guy in the video must be running something in the background, I get easily 350-450 fps in 5on5. I never stated that the 6600k is worse than the 4690k. And why are you calling me kid, you don't know anything about me. And yes its worth to buy the 6600k instead the 2600x if you want to game only with your pc and not to workshop with it. And you know you can oc the 6600k also? lmao you got triggered so easily.
2018-10-23 17:43
#76
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
>must be running something in the background Didn't you say you have a triple monitor set up? and why's everyone in the benchmark videos including me only hover around 250-350fps with 6600k? I'm not saying that you said 4690k>6600k but you did say 6600k>1600 which is not true. I know I had my 6600k OC with a cryorig fan. But you're getting a constant 350fps in a 5 v 5 with a triple monitor set up is a myth yet to be proven. Are you running a 1080ti at least? I expect not, if you do run 1080ti I expect you would have a 8700k. Not triggered, just funny seeing how a delusional intelfanboi keep defending their bad purchases.
2018-10-23 17:54
#78
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
userbenchmark.com/PCGame/FPS-Estimates-C.. 4690k 1080p low userbenchmark.com/PCGame/FPS-Estimates-C.. 6600k 1080p low userbenchmark.com/PCGame/FPS-Estimates-C.. R1600 1080p low Prove me your 350-450fps let's say 400fps average with 1080p (?) myth please sir. In CSGO yeah 6600k>1600, I meant overall as a PC price/perfomance wise 1600>6600k any day any night.
2018-10-23 18:01
#161
NBK- | 
France _NBK_ 
People r like "i have 400 fps stable with my i5". But they forget to mention "in d2, ct spawn" LUL. 260 seems more legit...
2018-10-23 22:18
bro, you're posting a 2, almost 3 years old video.
2018-10-23 18:56
#103
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
I'm using it for comparison for his argument. He said that he got constant 350-450 fps @1080p with 4960k and if that video is 2 years old showing that you can't. Imagine getting it now with all the updates etc. It baffles me how far someone would lie expecting I'm just gonna sit down and take his lies. On top of that, no one's gonna post a benchmark video with old cpu nowadays. See #78 for raw stats and bigger sample size. They'll use the same GPU, not sure about memory since it affects Ryzen more than Intel chips. At least 30 fps difference where Intel>Ryzen but both CPUs have no problem getting above 200+fps. My point is why would you pay $100 more for that 30 fps if you ended up playing it in a 60hz monitor anyway? Especially when OP clearly stated that he is in tight budget.
2018-10-23 19:14
I have 4690k OC'd and even I agree 350-450 fps is a huge LIE "unless you go looking at the ground all the time :)"
2018-10-23 19:47
found the triggered radeon fag
2018-10-23 20:15
#122
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
Retarded rusky ahmed. Are you even capable of reading? There's a skill called comprehensive reading. Go download it, you would need it to survive. Expected from 10iq rusky AXAXAXAXA
2018-10-23 20:18
lul nt racist interl>amd in csgo, that is fact kid
2018-10-23 20:19
#129
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
lul nt sexist Intel>AMD in CSGO is a fact rusky. Again read my statement LMAO you proved my point that you don't have a single capability of reading properly go back to high school kid. See #78 or #44. 10iq axaxaxaxaxa
2018-10-23 20:27
vp fan lul wat more I can say about this kid
2018-10-23 20:30
#136
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
So me being a VP since 2013 has anything to do with the legitimacy and credibility of my previous statement? Are you running out of things to insult? Do you not have any intelligent things to say? 10 iq axaxaxaxa Take the L ahmed you were roasted.
2018-10-23 20:35
lol how I was roasted? indo-dog calling me ahmed XDD wat is ur name abudllah kid?
2018-10-23 21:06
#153
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
#129 then you proceed to #134 which doesn't make sense and does not have any relation to the topic. Which proved that you are indeed a low iq human being or a human being with a low iq which frankly the same. Your name is Ahmed so what am I supposed to call you? Mustofa? Khabib? The way you keep acting like an adult yet have nothing smart to insult or banter back just completely proves that you are maximum a freshman at college. Looking at your flag and assuming you're not fake flagging just by statistics alone make me believe that you are a high school student. Don't kid yourself kid. You lost this. Now go back to school and try double your iq from 10 to 20. I will give you more vodka as a reward.
2018-10-23 21:28
You have some weird experiences then because I owned an R7 1700 which I overclocked and it was very underwhelming in CS:GO.
2018-10-23 21:50
#156
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
Sadly to you it has been known that 1700 underperform in csgo even to 1600. Not by a huge margin though, but still an unfortunate one. What's avg fps you're getting? Resolution? Gpu? All those factors can be detrimental to FPS drop in Ryzen. Windows update and driver update as well. I had this problem back in Jan and I rolled back my windows update and re-install csgo to my other SSD. Everything goes normal.
2018-10-23 22:01
No idea what my settings were at the time, the GPU was a 1070 though. I switched to an 8700K and a 1080 Ti since.
2018-10-23 22:03
#160
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
That's ma boi. If we're talking about the big boy i7 > Ryzen especially if you pair it with the nice juicy 1080ti. The price is a little overpriced for a mere gamer imo. Still a beast combination.
2018-10-23 22:07
#162
NBK- | 
France _NBK_ 
What do u mean by underwhelming ? how much fps do u have, lets say on d2 5v5 ? Im thinking about buying a 2700X...
2018-10-23 22:25
#157
2018-10-23 22:25
#164
NBK- | 
France _NBK_ 
indeed... sry m8
2018-10-23 22:27
how the fuck is that possible? how far have you overclocked and what is ur gpu? i run at 1280x960 and get almost 200-250 stable.. is intel paying u to defend them so hard? lol
2018-10-23 20:33
#138
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Europe EUR0PE 
4.6ghz 1060 6gb on air btw
2018-10-23 20:36
#159
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
He's actually an Intel sales man at your local best buy. I presented him with facts and statistics with decent amount of sample size. He can't explained the abnormality of the FPS he's getting and he chose to run away. My 6600k with 1070 don't get a stable 400fps with 1080p settings. It's mind blowing how he could get his with the same settings and inferior GPU+CPU.
2018-10-23 22:05
#169
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Europe EUR0PE 
#138
2018-10-24 21:03
go back to reddit ,pls;
2018-10-23 18:28
#99
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
Who let you out of the zoo? Go back plz here take some bananas
2018-10-23 18:49
>upgraded from 6600k to 1600 don't you mean downgraded?
2018-10-23 20:03
#120
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
It's a decent upgrade as far as I can tell. 4 cores with my setup are just not enough. It's not like you build a PC solely to play CSGO. Hence, upgraded. Do they have PC in Africa? I thought even finding water is hard.
2018-10-23 20:16
yes we have pc, and toilet :D and polish people to clean them
2018-10-23 20:40
#46
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Sweden Autistmeister 
ryzen can't reach 280+ fps with it's current CPU's meanwhile even the 8600k from intel can get a stable 400fps. Wouldn't bother getting a ryzen unless you are gonna heavily multi task, good value for your money though.
2018-10-23 17:18
#72
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
fpsbenchmark.com/i5-8600k-vs-ryzen-5-260.. bla bla bla with the multi tasking argument bla bla bla intel is the king of single core cpu for 2 fps difference bla bla. Sorry mate your username checks. Ryzens have no problem getting 200+ fps in high setting 1080p native. The fastest refresh rate today for commerical products is still 240hz, I doubt many of you even use it. Why bother the extra $75 for a tad increase in CSGO?
2018-10-23 17:46
#80
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
8600K with a 1080ti 2600x with a 1050ti. And my point was 2600x getting above 200+fps constant which is proven from your video. It even reach above that and getting the constant 250+fps in low settings. Furthermore, I'm not sure if he OC his 2600x as it's not stated anywhere. I didn't listen to him but feel free to point me which minutes mark he said stuffs about OC. On top of that the price difference justification.
2018-10-23 18:09
#81
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Sweden Autistmeister 
Look at this guy youtube.com/watch?v=sqV0hMo46xg&t=117s He is having a very hard time getting 200 stable fps on deathmatch with a 2700x and a 1080ti.
2018-10-23 18:10
#87
pheini | 
Finland Dauni 
im alrdy having 300fps stable with a fkin oc'd 4690k + r9 390
2018-10-23 18:17
#89
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Sweden Autistmeister 
Intel rapes ryzen in csgo due to csgo likes to utilize single core performence.
2018-10-23 18:19
#90
pheini | 
Finland Dauni 
thats why i downgraded from 7700k 1080 to 450eur setup got all 2nd hand 4690k / r9 390 cuz dont need more
2018-10-23 18:20
#98
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
I don't know what's wrong with him. youtube.com/watch?v=iZGDFxTD3bQ Full comparison to coffee lake lineups. About 60fps difference where Intel>Ryzen in CSGO. But still Ryzen hovers around 200+ FPS like I stated. This is apple to apple comparison since they all use the same set up (Ram speed, settings, Map etc). The fairest benchmark. Coffee Lake are great lineup imo, I would buy one if they don't cost a fortune.
2018-10-23 18:50
That guy has capped his fps. notice how he doesn't even reach 300fps inside of the tunnels where a lower end intel cpu would reach 400fps. lmfao.
2018-10-23 19:39
#115
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
lmfao imagine all csgo maps are tunnels right? No smoke, no gunshots, just pure scenery. Lmfao. Lmfao. Lmfao. In the next couple of minutes he'll show you without fps cap. 350 avg for 2600x and 500avg for 8600k and again both above 240++fps lmfao lmfao lmfao. Username checks lmfao
2018-10-23 20:12
While i5 8600k runs at 800fps inside of tunnels and 2600x only gets 280fps inside of tunnels it must say something. Just admit that you are wrong and we are finished, no need to be delusional.
2018-10-23 20:16
#124
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
And you're playing with 800hz monitor? Just admit it you are dumb and we are finished, no need to be delusional. I even said Intel>Ryzen in CSGO. But you need to read the whole argument in which I explain you won't need that 800fps when playing in a 60hz monitor. Just admit it you are dumb and we are finished, no need to be delusional. Take the L and go to your therapist.
2018-10-23 20:21
Listen, you clearly have some kind of brain damage, if you don't know that higher fps means less input lag then you are very uneducated. you are calling me dumb without knowing what even higher fps means for you. All you see is numbers and don't even know what the fuck you are even talking about. Go back and clean toilets, that's all you're good for with your tiny brain.
2018-10-23 20:26
#142
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
LMAO this shit is too funny, all you know is higher fps is less input lag OMFG are you serious? I'm done no coming back from this, you just showed the world that you're dumb. Then you resort to insult Polish people by cleaning toilet are you really autistic? If you are, I don't want to insult you any longer. I feel bad and I'm sorry for calling you Autistic when you are indeed autistic :(
2018-10-23 20:40
Not sure if trolling at this point.
2018-10-23 20:56
#151
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
I will be nice to you since I'm afraid it will hurt your feelings. Higher FPS does mean less input lag. But there is a restriction, a cap, a limitation as to your eyes and the monitor can deliver. Hertz does not equal Frame per Second or FPS. Regular monitors have 60hz while regular GAMING monitors have 144hz. Just recently Alienware introduced 240hz monitors where most pro players play in right now. I highly doubt that a lot of people are using 240hz right now. I use 144hz myself and I believe if you are at least global you would use one too. This hertz is the capability of monitors to deliver images/second. One thing you would want to avoid is having FPS drop or where the low 1% percentile of your FPS drop below 60FPS threshold (standard monitor), 144FPS (gaming), or 240hz (alienware). In those instances, you will experience frame skipping. Hence, as long as your 1% is above 240fps with a 240hz monitor you're doing fine and you will not experience any disadvantage nor any advantage from having 5000fps. The reason people want their FPS to be as high as they could is because they want their 1% to be above the monitor threshold. Which normally is 144hz. So did you learn something today?
2018-10-23 21:15
#127
sarna | 
Poland xDEUCE 
Intel > AMD in CS:GO but for me price is doing a factor here. Using 144hz monitor won't need more than 200 FPS anyway and I could benefit from Ryzen cause maybe i'll start some streaming etc
2018-10-23 20:23
"running at 1440p everything maxed out" so thats not that bad
2018-10-23 19:03
i mean i have the ryzen 5 1500x and i can run 300 fps stable (keep in mind that i have it capped)
2018-10-23 19:00
#104
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Europe Instabait 
besides micro freezing ...
2018-10-23 19:25
#4
sarna | 
Poland xDEUCE 
Yeah, but looking at price of Intel... 2600x is simmilar in performance to i5 8600k, but take a look at prices: Ryzen 5 2600 : morele.net/procesor-amd-ryzen-5-2600-3-9.. Ryzen 5 2600x : morele.net/procesor-amd-ryzen-5-2600x-3-.. Intel : morele.net/procesor-intel-core-i5-8600k-.. Note: I need a new MB for this i5 also, so I can buy 2600x + a mid range mb for the price of i5 8600k(without motherboard) EDIT: With my current setup I get ~70 FPS in 20 PPL DM server and around 90-120 FPS in 5v5 faceit game when im in a fight
2018-10-23 01:25
something is seriously wrong with your setup... be it software or hardware those numbers should not be that low
2018-10-23 01:30
#8
sarna | 
Poland xDEUCE 
Well, if it's true then it seems that I can't find a solution for it. Temps are all good, fresh Windows etc. and fps are always that trash, I think that's fault of volvo updates Also CS:GO is on SSD
2018-10-23 01:35
#12
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United States SmokaDaWeEDs 
Yea u have a software problem or something. U should get way more frames. My comp is worse than yours and I get double what u get. Even triple the fps u get.
2018-10-23 03:13
#17
sarna | 
Poland xDEUCE 
Then help me to find a solution, I tried so so many times ...
2018-10-23 13:22
try only looking at fps before round start in competitive, it will be much higher all the pc wizards on this forum get stable 300fps with a not overclocked i5 or worse. in spawn.
2018-10-23 13:32
#23
sarna | 
Poland xDEUCE 
thanks mr hltv helper
2018-10-23 13:32
#26
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United States SmokaDaWeEDs 
Wipe ur drive and start over.
2018-10-23 13:46
#30
sarna | 
Poland xDEUCE 
I tried installing only cs on a fresh windows and fps was almost same
2018-10-23 14:22
#48
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United States SmokaDaWeEDs 
Then maybe your video card has a problem. U know anyone else u could borrow a video card from and test it out? Also the newer drivers suck for the older cards. Try going a cpl versions of the drivers that are a year or 2 old
2018-10-23 17:20
#91
pheini | 
Finland Dauni 
or his cpu cooler is assembled wrong, gets high temp > lowers clocks to cool it
2018-10-23 18:21
#95
sarna | 
Poland xDEUCE 
It's not temps issue. GPU doesn't get more than 65 degrees and cpu is around 50 in stress
2018-10-23 18:32
#154
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United States SmokaDaWeEDs 
Check ur video card to make sure it isn't bending while ur tower is up right. Sounds strange but my old amd 290x was in a bend and doing something similar. I laid the tower down and fps and performance went way up
2018-10-23 21:46
#47
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Sweden Autistmeister 
Update your audio drivers, if you haven't updated it in years then you'll easily get 100+ fps boost, also don't forget graphic drivers.
2018-10-23 17:19
#50
sarna | 
Poland xDEUCE 
Thought about it also, got newest
2018-10-23 17:22
#51
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Sweden Autistmeister 
Check your psu and mobo they can be faulty. your ram could also have some issues.
2018-10-23 17:23
#61
sarna | 
Poland xDEUCE 
How can I check it?
2018-10-23 17:29
#63
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Sweden Autistmeister 
Not sure, try using another psu & mobo
2018-10-23 17:34
#22
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World ZMDR 
your setup is fucked. your cpu is actually slightly faster than ryzen in csgo. my friend has i5 2400 and gets 200fps in 5v5.
2018-10-23 13:32
#24
sarna | 
Poland xDEUCE 
Thats making me nervous rn lol
2018-10-23 13:33
#25
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United States 4PP135 
you should be able to use your motherboard fr newer intel cpus, update your bios and you'll be good to go, they are all the same socket.
2018-10-23 13:37
#29
sarna | 
Poland xDEUCE 
Nah, I5 8600k won't run on my mb and buying I5 7xxx isn't worth imo
2018-10-23 14:15
#31
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United States 4PP135 
alr
2018-10-23 14:25
I have a worse cpu than you and I never go below 144fps on my 144hz monitor. Your GPU is the limiting factor, you should upgrade that instead.
2018-10-23 17:28
#60
sarna | 
Poland xDEUCE 
Well ppl getting higher frames with a shittier GPU than me so I doubt it's a problem tbh
2018-10-23 17:28
it all depends on settings.
2018-10-23 18:24
960 should be about as fast as a 760 which is fine for 200+ fps i say spend some extra money on a K series i5 and a Zx70 mobo, you can buy second hand too if you are willing to take less life time and warranty for a good price. and buy 8GB ram instead of 16, and buy another 8GB when you have the money if you find that you need it. i still have 8gb and i dont run out of it but i dont play many newer games.
2018-10-23 01:20
#5
sarna | 
Poland xDEUCE 
I already have 2x8GB 2400mhz sticks ;p Also I don't want to buy used parts, always been afraid of it
2018-10-23 01:24
then i5 8600k and a z370 mobo, or high end ryzen, you can OC, it will last many years, and you will save money because you dont have to replace it soon.
2018-10-23 03:10
next gen ryzen will be great (bcoz of 7nm) and they still will use am4 socket. So you can buy b450/x470 mobo win r5 2600 now and upgrade your cpu next year (or later when you will need it).
2018-10-23 05:35
its time to stop looking at the x nm stat, its become a meaningless marketing term. intel 10nm is about equal to tsmc 7nm. they measure differently. if you are going to upgrade cpu again next year its better not to buy the 2600 now and just wait 1 year.
2018-10-23 13:27
first of all intel failed with their 10nm and yeah you right their 10nm sigtly worse than TSMC 7nm. But TSMC 7nm using same "marketing terms" as 12nm TSCM/GloFo thats why thats will be huge difference.
2018-10-23 15:09
#6
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
I'm using r5 1600 @3.7ghz should not be that far off 2600 probably in 5% margin. I pair it up with a 1070 and 3200 CL 15 16gb RAM. Constant 200+ fps with low settings at Native 1080p and probably 250++ with lower res. I have a triple monitor set up with lots of shit running in the background. I only need a constant 200+ fps since I play with a 144hz monitor which Ryzen delivers with ease.
2018-10-23 01:28
your 6500 will perform better in CSGO then a Ryzen CPU. CSGO runs mostly off one core and intel has much better single core performance. 6500 is on the same process node as what they are currently making. Clock for clock not much behind the 8000 series. In other words your CPU is not your problem. The glaring part in your system is your GPU not your CPU. 6500 should last you a good bit. Ryzen would only be good if you wanted to stream or do more productivity related stuff then it's an awesome value but the 8700/9900/9700k's dump all over it in games. As do most I5's but some games now are heavily multi-threaded. Most not though.
2018-10-23 03:14
#16
sarna | 
Poland xDEUCE 
Yeah but i5 6500 is only 3,2 ghz and I can't BCLK OC with my motherboard. Also I know many people with shitter GPU yet having way better frames than me With Ryzen I could be having ~4.0 ghz with single core that would mean more fps, especially in CS
2018-10-23 13:23
#68
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United States hltvconfirmed 
Have to factor in how well the cpu performs by single cores. The old Fx AMD cpus would clock to 4.5 ghz but still had horrible single core performance. Of course we are talking ryzen cpus but still thought Id share.
2018-10-23 17:38
#11
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Brazil xpn :) 
intel 8th gen , or any ryzen :D
2018-10-23 03:12
#13
mimi | 
Brazil mtnGOD 
You already have an not too old MB so i think a 6 or 7gen i7 can worth more than changing to a new mobo
2018-10-23 03:23
#14
rain | 
Australia pjp_1 
Ryzen 5 260x is very much worth it. Bought one and does everything I want it to.
2018-10-23 05:19
Dude, check if the CPU or GPU throttles due to high temps and check whether your video drivers (Nvidia) are up-to-date. Check once if the game's running on integrated graphics or your GTX 950 graphic card. If you've win 10, hope you've kept it up-to-date.
2018-10-23 13:48
#28
sarna | 
Poland xDEUCE 
I've disabled integrated graphics, temps are good(cpu is max 65 degrees in cs, gpu 70), drivers updated but older drivers got me like 15 fps boost but I can't use older cause I'm also playing few newer games that requires to have them up to date
2018-10-23 14:10
Hmm. What's your PSU's wattage (just asking)? Do you get low fps in AAA games too? Because I've heard about people having lower fps in CS GO alone (due to servers). Try checking whether other people have low fps problem in Tom's hardware forum and solution for it.
2018-10-23 16:08
#52
sarna | 
Poland xDEUCE 
It's 600w, way more than enough I guess
2018-10-23 17:23
#56
sarna | 
Poland xDEUCE 
Also about AAA I didn't touch them for a few months but I played ROTR and other titles that were popular back then without any problem mostly mid/high settings.
2018-10-23 17:27
You got good fps right? By good fps I mean similar fps which others with GTX 950. P.s. Do shit motherboards cause fps drops?
2018-10-23 17:34
U should have 300fps with ur current setup
2018-10-23 15:12
I would suggest you invest more time troubleshooting your fps issues before wasting money on new machine.
2018-10-23 15:22
#54
sarna | 
Poland xDEUCE 
Yeah, playing like a year with such FPS thinking about solutions is clearly not long enough xd
2018-10-23 17:26
Have you tried different Windows version such as 8.1?
2018-10-23 18:17
#110
sarna | 
Poland xDEUCE 
Nah only fully updated win10
2018-10-23 20:01
Then you clearly haven't checked all other possibilities.
2018-10-23 20:15
#125
sarna | 
Poland xDEUCE 
I had multiple versions of win10, there was no point going to lower version since everything is working fine except cs
2018-10-23 20:22
Suit yourself
2018-10-23 20:23
#37
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Well you need to buy mb because ryzen will not work with the mb you're using and yes I would say go for it since intel is just over hyped piece of fanboy trash, you get similar performance from amd for way less money it's really not hard to be a smart consumer and not get ripped off. I love intel's fanboys logic.... oh yeah my cpu performs like 1% better than your pos AMD cpu, but only in certain games lol, yet their part cost almost double what yours did.... kids really.
2018-10-23 15:38
#41
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
1% FPS for a mere $100. Good logic axaxaxa. Got panic attack and released x series with a completely different socket. Just now started to release 6 threads with no hyper threading. All the fanbois will cry about SUPERIOR SINGLE CORE PERFORMANCE FOR 1000+ fps in csgo. Yet they play with 60hz monitor. > Intelfanboi > Logic Pick one axaxaxaxaxaxax
2018-10-23 16:30
#42
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
Pretty much and btw I'm not a fanboy of AMD either, I'm just not willing to pay $100 extra as you said for something thats literally slightly better but only in a couple games/tasks. I'm not really a branding sheep.
2018-10-23 16:38
#44
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
I'm a fan of my wallet too. You could call me walletfanboi. I had 6600k as there was no better amd comparison in general. I switched to Ryzen and it just blew the competition away especially with $159 price tag for 12 cores. Absolutely a no brainer for me. My only small complaints are so hard to get it to 4ghz for the first gen and memory compatibility. If coffee lake is the same price as Ryzen 2x series, I woulda taken coffee lake in a heart beat.
2018-10-23 16:51
I have 2600 @4GHz, which stays above 200 when I play awp dm with like 20 people. I think you should get similar fps with your current setup
2018-10-23 16:43
i have the same cpu as yours and i'm rockin at 200 fps constantly and never drops under 144, so clean your pc i guess
2018-10-23 17:22
#53
sarna | 
Poland xDEUCE 
It's clean, I always take care of my hardware.. Could u DM me with your nvidia and bios settings? Maybe smth is messed up in there mate
2018-10-23 17:25
#55
Sweden ldcz 
just upgrade your GPU
2018-10-23 17:27
#59
sarna | 
Poland xDEUCE 
Don't need a better one since I plan on playing only CS atm. I'll upgrade it in a half-year or smth like that mate. People with shittier GPU's are playing with better framerates so I don't think that's a problem tbh
2018-10-23 17:28
#57
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Ukraine debaliysubrok 
buy i5 8600k
2018-10-23 17:28
#62
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Finland BOMBDOGE 
i wear i7 6700k and gtx 980 for many years now is still good game :D
2018-10-23 17:32
i have a 2600x and get 300 FPS but your setup you have now should be fine
2018-10-23 17:35
Dude if you think that upgrading from a 4-core Intel CPU to any Ryzen will fix your fps issues - just haha do it and I will laugh harder when you come back.
2018-10-23 17:37
I have gtx 950 and Ryzen 5 1600X and have average fps on all maps 250+ no stuttering no freezing no shit. The Ryzen 5 2600x should have better single core as far as I've read.
2018-10-23 17:40
>buying ryzen for gaming
2018-10-23 17:45
Is smart. For the money it's a really good deal. Multi thread performance is fucking great.
2018-10-23 17:52
#73
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Czech Republic theebee 
I7-9700K is currently the best CPU for gaming, atleast from the game benchmarks, but expensive tho, if you're going to play some highend games, go for it, if you're only going to play CS:GO take Ryzen.
2018-10-23 17:49
Ryzen 5 1500x user here, my cpu is paired with a 1060 6gb and my fps is around 200-260 on casual servers (10vs10) it's easily 300+ fps on ranked. You'll get better fps with ryzen 5 2600x.
2018-10-23 17:51
just buy an i7-7700 instead of changing your entire platform
2018-10-23 17:55
#82
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Sweden ThorinEk 
definitly not worth it for you. if you want to upgrade either cpu and gpu you need to do both at the same time. otherwise there will be bottleneck and you waste alot of money
2018-10-23 18:11
ok
2018-10-23 18:12
#84
Zeus | 
Other Chuckeee 
guys i have i5 6600 gtx 1060 6gb 8gb 1600mhz ddr3 h110m d3 i am having massive drops in fps sometimes 130 fps 100 fps i have tried everything from tuning csgo settings to tuning bios. but it doesnt fix help
2018-10-23 18:12
#167
sarna | 
Poland xDEUCE 
It's prolly our dogshit CPU's that doing it : P
2018-10-24 01:37
#85
Costa Rica Dazy 
6500 in 2018? why don't you buy the 8400?
2018-10-23 18:15
#93
Sweden ldcz 
4670k in 2018 here
2018-10-23 18:27
4690k @ 4.4 here aswell
2018-10-23 18:32
same
2018-10-23 20:38
#173
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Canada gaaagnon 
Ayyy 4.7 Here just because I can huehuehue
2018-10-26 17:32
i need better cooler then ill go higher lol
2018-10-26 17:34
#175
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Canada gaaagnon 
Smart man lol Good thinking
2018-10-26 17:34
#97
sarna | 
Poland xDEUCE 
Cause 8400 is expensive due to intel prices increase and need a new motherboard for that
2018-10-23 18:33
Yeah i have the 2600X, its good. :() Although i think that GPU is the one that can't push high framerates here, especially close to smokes... It's fine for games which u can play in 60fps or so, but CSGO is on a fucked up engine and needs to run as high fps as u can to feel smooth...
2018-10-23 18:20
#105
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Asia fakedollface 
Going from Intel to AMD just for CSGO is a bad deal. Ryzen has lower clock speeds, even if you had to overclock it. I stepped down from a Ryzen 5 1500, to an i7-4770k since it wasn't good for an upgrade. Higher clock speeds are always better for CSGO and it shows. Since you're already on the Skylake ecosystem. Why not try to get an i7-6700k in the second-hand market? It's a greater buy that Ryzen if pure gaming is all you do. Or buy an i5-8400, they're really good cpu's for gaming even if it isn't overclockable. Paired with a cheap b360 board and you're good to go.
2018-10-23 19:27
the 8400 is so fcking expensive right now, either wait for it to drop or its a bad deal
2018-10-23 19:42
#111
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Asia fakedollface 
Well yeah, i5-8400 is 220 USD. The Ryzen 5 2600 is around 160 USD. Paired with a 30-40 USD cooler and it'll be a good deal. OC it all the way to 3.9-4ghz or so.
2018-10-23 20:02
5 2600 turbo 3,9ghz oc it to 3,9ghz-4ghz okey men
2018-10-23 20:39
it wont turbo all cores to 3,9 unless you got some good cooling solution
2018-10-23 20:53
if thats true then it proves that stock coolers are shit
2018-10-23 21:07
well nobody ever said that they are perfect. i made a mistake however i didnt want to say cores i wanted to say threads, and since there's 12 of them they will run at like 3,75 GHz, which is still a lot.
2018-10-23 21:09
or you can set it to turbo like 8 threads and then they are going to turbo up to 3,9GHz
2018-10-23 21:12
buy the 2600 -> OC it. Now you have a cheaper cpu that has the same performance as the 2600x
2018-10-23 19:41
#112
NBK- | 
France _NBK_ 
buy a 8700k... of wait it costs 550
2018-10-23 20:03
#114
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Finland fromtheair 
Pls remove yourself from world. How can you have bad fps with that cpu? I had I5 2500k overclocked to 4,8 Ghz and GTX 960 and fps over 200 in all maps. "MAX" settings and 1080p. Just buy better GPU for that money and overclock that CPU to 4.2-4.4 GHz
2018-10-23 20:08
#116
sarna | 
Poland xDEUCE 
My motherboard doesn't support BCLK overclock, you should get some knowledge before insulting people ;)
2018-10-23 20:13
#152
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Finland fromtheair 
Even without OC your CPU shouldn't slow you down. Buy GPU or just enjoy using money for useless CPU and still have bad GPU. Also even though your motherboard doesn't "support " OC you can still OC it but it is harder.
2018-10-23 21:21
#166
sarna | 
Poland xDEUCE 
Gimme some clues then, cus I believe b150m is business edition mb which doesn't allow it because it wouldn't handle it
2018-10-24 01:34
i5 in 2018, don't be funny.
2018-10-23 20:15
#128
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Hungary Shiron212 
Hilarious European salaries, don't be funny plz
2018-10-23 20:24
Are you from Hungary?
2018-10-23 20:26
#132
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Hungary Shiron212 
yeah 500-600€ per month LUL
2018-10-23 20:27
What the FUCK? You can rent a single room with that money in The Netherlands. Not a house, just 1 single tiny fucking room inside a house. Now I understand why your people come to NL to work. Lot's of Nikolett's working here (not even joking).
2018-10-23 20:30
#137
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Hungary Shiron212 
haha I see do you like them? Hungarians are all around the rich European countries, especially the younger generation and girls but most of them will eventually come back after a while
2018-10-23 20:35
Yeah man, Hungarian people are very likeable. I actually had a two colleagues called Nikolett, both from Hungary so that's why I mentioned that name. I was good with one of them, we worked in the same office. She brought me Hungarian food one time to work, was really nice. People in the Netherlands don't do that type of shit because they have no culture (I was born here, but different ethnicity). Also had a polish girl bring me food one time to work to try haha, so awesome. Eastern EU has actual culture and fantastic people.
2018-10-23 20:42
#144
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Hungary Shiron212 
Thank you, I'm glad you like this kind of culture! I don't know anybody from NL but online most of you seem nice and your festivals and music are insane
2018-10-23 20:45
Haha, those are pretty much the only two decent things about NL. I definitely have to see Budapest one day though, I heard it's beautiful.
2018-10-24 21:00
#170
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Hungary Shiron212 
It is! It's kinda dirty, but definitely worth a try
2018-10-24 21:43
It is!
2018-10-26 17:07
I have: Intel Core i5-7600K ASUS Geforce GTX 1060 6GB OC Crucial 16GB DDR4 2400 MT/s MSI Mainboard H110M GAMING LGA1151 And I also have fps from 60-260. Usually DM around 80-130 and faceit 1120-170 :(
2018-10-23 22:40
#172
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Germany randomNormie 
if you want max performance Intel i5 8600k i7 8700k and i7 7700k best bang you get by ryzen 2600 sure but only 200-300 fps 8700k and 8600k you can get up to stable 400+fps and 7700k stable 300+fps Ryzen 2600 is ofc the better product but for csgo Intel is better and only double the price or so
2018-10-26 17:17
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