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Shooting in California
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United States SkylordGuillaume 
cnn.com/us/live-news/california-shooting.. At least 11 COLLEGE AGE STUDENTS killed, one police officer, number is expected to rise. I’m absolutely disgusted that this is allowed to go on while Trump continues to cover his ass with “Oh i’m so sorry that this happened” but he continues to dodge questions on gun control. Students 18-22 with entire lives ahead of them. I’m praying for the families and the future of america tonight.
2018-11-08 12:38
#1
suNny | 
Finland jakem0n 
Your country is so fucked up imo. Trump should die, naturally ofc but just die
2018-11-08 12:40
To be fair he didn’t start the issue, but him and his administration have done jack shit about it, despite mass protests. Like a fucking 18 year old can buy an AR-15 and go blow away 30 people?? Welcome to the land of the free
2018-11-08 12:42
#13
suNny | 
Finland jakem0n 
I totally agree. I dont blame Trump for starting this but at least as a leader of your country he and his administration should do something... But I guess nothing is gonna change.
2018-11-08 12:47
There will be a blue wave in 2020. Change will come in due time. The only question is: At the cost of how many more lives?
2018-11-08 12:53
there will be blue wave but the democrats might just decide to sabotage their campaign again. and if they win they will just take the money from the gun industry all the same and do nothing. democrats are just as crooked as republicans. sorry. id recommend emigrating if you value your life. the only country that seems worse in murder rates is brazil.
2018-11-08 12:57
Democrats can put gun control laws into action as early as 2020 if fuckin republicans don’t just block any bill created by dems to make them and obama look bad.
2018-11-08 13:00
they could, but instead they will go to the weapons lobby and say "how much?"
2018-11-08 13:00
Nope, they’ll try, trust me. But since gridlock is the norm in our country, absolutely nothing is gonna change.
2018-11-08 13:02
remember how obama ran on ending the wars and closing gitmo and all that shit? what he actually did is not close gitmo, continue to illegally detain foreign nationals, and dronestriked the middle east into oblivion. politics is not about fixing problems, its about maintaining the interests of your party. the democrats will try to optimally exploit these tragedies for political gain. they have no interest in actually fixing the issue because that means next time some people, instead of being a guaranteed vote for the democrats because of this issue, might vote the other way because of other now less pressing issues. actually its in the interest of the republican party to do something about the gun issue because it costs them support. kinda ironic.
2018-11-08 13:13
obama ended the war in iraq
2018-11-08 21:45
it was already ending. war in afghanistan is still ongoing.
2018-11-09 00:17
America is crap either way and it wont Change xD
2018-11-11 23:23
#62
smn | 
China HLTVMASTR 
> they'll try > trust me hahahaha blue waffle cuck
2018-11-08 13:32
>Chinese guy not knowing how american politics work. that or you’re a fake flagger from a trailer park in nebraska
2018-11-08 16:24
#251
smn | 
China HLTVMASTR 
ofc im a fakeflagger you retard its obvious that you take whatever you read as the truth, better for the US if you dont vote and kill yourself instead
2018-11-08 16:25
Reported >Also doesn’t deny being from trailer park Just don’t cry too hard when Jonathan E visits your profile motherfucker
2018-11-08 16:27
Maybe if commiefornia allowed people to carry guns this wouldn’t happen
2018-11-09 07:52
#463
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Romania Ementor 
+1
2018-11-09 18:17
FEELSBADMAN But bolsonaro will save us
2018-11-08 13:49
#125
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Andorra DiaRhea 
you guys electing bolsonaro is justifiable bcs you got fucked by other party since more than decade. but i fail to understand why USA elects trump when democrats are clearly the better ones to run their country with better economic views and social. -SJW and snowflakes such as buzzfeed and you have a perfect party
2018-11-08 14:39
#464
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United States flyflit 
Agreed. That's why we should vote independent. Year after year we get the same establishment dems/establishment republicans who take money from any big corporation that exists. We had a chance with Bernie Sanders but of course Hilary had to cheat him out of that as well.
2018-11-09 18:19
the whole democratic party cheated itself out of a possible win vs trump. that really shows how much nepotism there is imo. theyd rather push hillary than have a better chance to win.
2018-11-09 18:20
#466
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United States flyflit 
Exactly. Looking back at it now it was fucking hysterical to watch. The democrats literally could not make Hilary look good nor could she make herself look good. Hopefully something changes in the next campaign but we're probably just going to see the democratic party endorse another super corporate democrat. But in all honesty I still vote blue because we need to do something about our carbon emissions and switch to cleaner energy sources which obviously isn't going to happen with this current presidency.
2018-11-09 18:27
#521
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North America Foxaika 
The homicide rate is nowhere near Brazil's.
2018-11-11 23:43
brazil being like the only country with even worse gun homicide rate is not good. its terrible. not something to be proud of. i dont get why you keep bringing up brazil. in brazil, gangs rule the favelas, there is rampant drug trade, an incompetent government, and they have a fascist as president. oh wait, you have all those things too...
2018-11-12 02:58
#526
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North America Foxaika 
That's not quite true, but regardless, looking at total violence makes more sense anyway.
2018-11-12 02:58
it only makes sense if you want to downplay the weekly mass shootings
2018-11-12 02:58
#532
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North America Foxaika 
If that's what you wish to believe, so be it. My only statement was that comparing violence here versus violence in Brazil is apples and oranges. Your statement was factually untrue. Brazil's violent crime rate is much higher. That is interesting, given the differences in laws and such between the two nations. Either way, the United States is not next to Brazil when it comes to homicide rate, which is my only point. My point being made, however, I have nothing left to add.
2018-11-12 06:36
1. The homicide rate is nowhere near Brazil's. 2. My only statement was that comparing violence here versus violence in Brazil is apples and oranges. these 2 statements together make no fucking sense. first of, no thats not what you said. dont fucking lie to me, you did compare apples and oranges and i explained to you that if you have the worst orange in the world and all you can say is "its not an apple" that that is pretty bad for an orange country. its something ive noticed about you americans. you all seem to be mentally handicapped. people in europe however are not. so please turn on your brain before your next post, and stop wasting my time.
2018-11-12 11:12
#537
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North America Foxaika 
Let's order the conversation. You first incorrectly asserted that the United States' homicide rate was only topped by Brazil. I pointed out that that was a false statement. You in return shifted borders by stating "gun homicides" I pointed out that personally I think it makes sense to look at overall violence(which was what you stated in your original post), since you were implying that it's as unsafe here as it is in Brazil(I perhaps should've clarified this, but I digress, I figured since we were working off your premise..), which is why I was arguing that it was apples and oranges. There's a dramatic difference. Not all homicides are firearm related, and it hardly makes sense to evaluate overall violence in a nation by that alone. Yes the United States has more violent crime than say the Netherlands, but it is nowhere close to Brazil, making that statement quite hyperbolic. That is exactly what I said, and I have no reason to lie. Brazil's homicide rate is dramatically higher than the United States. What mean by apples and oranges is that comparing the two doesn't make sense when they are so different, and using statistics that don't grant you a full picture doesn't make sense. They aren't in the same ballpark. Perhaps you're not understanding me correctly? Regardless, since you want to result to petty insults(something which I have not done), I don't think there's anything more left to say. Good day.
2018-11-12 14:26
+1. I love you man, an American who is not brainwashed by their parents.
2018-11-08 13:03
Yeah it’s amazing right? I know 80% of americans on HLTV are rednecks and nationalists, but believe me, it doesn’t represent america as a whole
2018-11-08 13:06
I completely agree, i fucking hate people who just believe their parents on every matter.
2018-11-08 13:11
How badly did your druggo parents beat you?
2018-11-08 21:45
alright chinaman
2018-11-09 00:38
I'm European
2018-11-11 10:56
i dont like Trump but he shouldnt die because the crime that he didnt commit
2018-11-08 13:11
He might have not commited it but he sure as hell didint do anything to fix it. His job is to fix their problems That's why the people give taxes. That's why the people vote. To get someone who is willing to/can change those problems.
2018-11-08 13:37
+1
2018-11-09 18:13
#462
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Czech Republic Pee_Tea 
<3 i'm so glad people like you exist on hltv
2018-11-09 18:16
#77
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United States Brad_Bait 
Extremely drastic changes has to happen of shooting should stop. It's been 6+ presidents and basically nothing has happened
2018-11-08 13:51
#130
gabs | 
Andorra DiaRhea 
bcs the republicans in senate stop them from passing a bill. and the republican voters support it. they dont care how many kids die as long as they have their AR-15 at home,.
2018-11-08 14:41
#196
United States j_k 
You're a fucking moron, the Democrats had the house, senate and Presidency all at once during Obama and Clinton, but continue to be uneducated and spew bullshit because you want to blame Republicans, don't be so naive
2018-11-08 15:28
Assault Weapons ban of 1994
2018-11-08 15:47
#220
United States j_k 
Okay what about the rest of the guns then? People outside of the US act like we used to carry Assault rifles around every day, this law didn't change anything and hasn't stopped anyone from getting an AR illegally
2018-11-08 15:48
the question wasn't the effectiveness of the bill passed it's the dems attempts to try to solve it
2018-11-08 15:53
#241
United States j_k 
Chief, do you not realize republicans ran the House AND the Senate in 1994, please understand what you're talking about, just because Clinton was in charge means that the dems had house and senate. Just stop while you're ahead because you don't understand what you're talking about. There has been nothing done on both sides since to stop this and that won't change, that's just the sad truth. All talk and no action
2018-11-08 16:15
>Okay what about the rest of the guns then? People outside of the US act like we used to carry Assault rifles around every day, this law didn't change anything and hasn't stopped anyone from getting an AR illegally >the question wasn't the effectiveness of the bill passed it's the dems attempts to try to solve it ??? 0 iq "chief"
2018-11-08 16:16
#245
United States j_k 
Not sure what your point is here "chief" you just sound mad and have no argument, I just told you the republicans passed the bill and it seems you can accept the facts, it still isn't an effective bill but to say the dems are responsible for the bill is just flat out wrong cry is free
2018-11-08 16:19
The 10-year ban was passed by the US Congress on September 13, 1994, following a close 52–48 vote in the US Senate, and was signed into law by US President Bill Clinton on the same day, who was a democrat. The architect of the bill was Dianne Feinstein, who was a democrat lol
2018-11-08 16:23
#278
United States j_k 
Are you willfully ignorant or what? What don't you understand about the US Congress was REPUBLICAN. It doesn't matter who architected the bill because it had to be passed by a REPUBLICAN MAJORITY CONGRESS. And after it went through the REPUBLICAN CONGRESS, then it was signed into law. Stop being ignorant
2018-11-08 17:10
so you're telling me that it doesn't matter that the person who built and proposed the bill, or the person that ultimately signed the bill into action were democrat? it just happened to narrowly pass through a republican majority congress?
2018-11-08 17:59
#345
United States j_k 
Who said it didn't matter? I said that your statement that it was only the democrats who tried to do something, it had to pass through a republican congress to get signed by a democrat president
2018-11-08 21:31
you are really fucking stupid
2018-11-08 21:46
damn you're so fucking dumb holy shit
2018-11-09 17:19
#377
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Europe tweekzter 
you think that there will be less crazy people when a democrat is president? they were there under Obama, they are there under Trump and they will be there under whoever will be next president.
2018-11-09 00:22
#381
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United Kingdom Kimble_ 
I will come back to this comment in 2020 when Trump has won
2018-11-09 00:47
Well you wont be coming back then :/
2018-11-09 01:01
U really think different president can do anything with mass shootings ?
2018-11-09 07:27
#488
Zeus | 
Finland Olter 
Blue wave LLULULULULULULULULULULULLLLL
2018-11-09 23:22
#502
Zeus | 
Finland Olter 
BLUE WAVE LULULULULULULU
2018-11-10 20:16
fucked up mindset ur country has, thats for sure
2018-11-08 13:28
land of free except nothing is free ...
2018-11-08 22:29
root cause of violence is mental illness
2018-11-09 08:02
Yep, but there’s no way to combat mental illness enough to completely stop all the gun violence. And there’s also a lot of gun violence in places like South Chicago, where crime is prevelant, and that’s not mental illness
2018-11-09 21:39
i live in chicago! northside is better
2018-11-12 02:13
Yeah ik, and the suburbs are really nice
2018-11-12 03:23
Nothing to do with Trump, legal weapon market was existing in your country FOREVER and is considered as a free right of an american citizen for self-defence. Would Trump try to deny this right and americans like you immidiately start to blame him for denying their original right. Its a dead-end question in your country.
2018-11-09 23:08
stfu vittu
2018-11-08 15:27
Why should he die?
2018-11-09 16:48
#442
suNny | 
Finland jakem0n 
We all should die
2018-11-09 17:19
welcome to america. Condolence to the families :/ innocent people If i were a killer I'd rather be the guy killing president - atleast everyone will remember who killed the president :s
2018-11-08 12:41
I think if this was so easy, Trump would have been already dead^^
2018-11-08 12:44
#57
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Denmark muggge 
^finally some common sense
2018-11-08 13:21
of course you would. you are a psycho like most liberals. "peaceful" and "tolerant" liberals.
2018-11-08 14:42
#133
gabs | 
Andorra DiaRhea 
i hope you're sending thoughts and prayers to the victim families, 100th time and 100s more to come.
2018-11-08 14:42
no that is what liberals do when some immigrant runs down a crowd of people. but when someone breaks the law and kills a bunch of people, instead of praying they try to disarm everyone. strange how that works!
2018-11-08 14:44
#136
gabs | 
Andorra DiaRhea 
ban immigrants, ban guns. problem solved? even a 1 billion population country india and china which is not developed has less gun violence than USA bcs guns are hard to acquire
2018-11-08 14:46
never. guns are a human right. all humans should have a gun to protect their freedom and liberty. the gun is the ultimate liberator and guarantor of personal freedom. guns for all.
2018-11-08 14:48
#140
gabs | 
Andorra DiaRhea 
have fun playing csgo in real life on full buy
2018-11-08 14:46
#191
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France KepleR82b 
Low quality bait
2018-11-08 15:25
Yikes
2018-11-08 15:35
*american national anthem starts playing in the background*
2018-11-08 15:40
*Soviet national anthem starts playing in the background whilst showing pictures of Gulags and starved out people*
2018-11-08 18:24
Everyone should be able to buy the guns they can afford - even nukes. Countries shouldn't protect anyone. If you have the money you can protect yourself. For nuke protection you can buy a missile shield - if you can afford it. Now that would be TRUE capitalism, not a goddamn communist state that US is currently!
2018-11-08 16:21
We need more TRUCK control. BAN ASSAULT TRUCKS. All knife owners must register with the government and carry a license!!!!!
2018-11-08 16:56
Who the f is this commie bastard?
2018-11-08 19:28
#407
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World word_exe 
Oooh, I hope I can afford a funky bomb
2018-11-09 15:42
Landmines and dynamite on my lawn is my human right
2018-11-08 18:05
#340
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United States pSilent 
+1 Halloween would be amazing every year
2018-11-08 21:09
Castle doctrine is great actually. Stand your ground laws should be legal in every state.
2018-11-09 00:42
its almost like more guns = more gun violence but more guns doesnt necessarily means more violence
2018-11-08 21:47
Prayers lol who believes that
2018-11-09 16:20
#132
gabs | 
Andorra DiaRhea 
Jamie Lanister the kingslayer
2018-11-08 14:42
#3
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Brazil humkij67 
Your country is so fucked up imo. Trump should die, naturally ofc but just die
2018-11-08 12:40
Yeah. One guy in the bar that got interviewed afterwards said “you never think it’ll happen to you, and then it does.” That’s scary shit. Thankfully most of this shit happens on the coasts, and I live in the midwest
2018-11-08 12:44
#12
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Brazil humkij67 
You may think it won’t happen but then it does even in Midwest
2018-11-08 12:45
#96
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World nakTriceps 
Why it happens more on the coasts and not in the midwest? Harder to pick up guns in the midwest?
2018-11-08 14:19
Nah it’s more the South, idk why. Like Texas and Florida. Maybe just more people there? Not sure really. But the big mass shootings are always in those states
2018-11-08 15:07
#264
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World nakTriceps 
tks
2018-11-08 16:51
#267
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
- Rednecks - Owning guns Pick more iconic duo
2018-11-08 16:52
True Unexpected from Poland btw
2018-11-09 01:06
#190
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United States Pinkcow88 
The coasts are the hardest places to get guns, while the Middle states the easiest, yet most these shootings happen in liberal states. It’s not gun control it’s the people.
2018-11-08 15:25
or maybe because of the high density of people within those states which present more of an opportunity than the barren towns of the midwest
2018-11-08 15:51
#265
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World nakTriceps 
ty
2018-11-08 16:51
Since when were Texas and Florida blue states?
2018-11-09 01:07
Hey you fucking moron, I pity you for being brainwashed by your liberal parents but there is a legitimate reason why it doesn't happen in middle america. California and Northeast states have been run by liberals for decades and have the strictest gun laws in the country. You can't have a magazine that holds more than 10 rounds in California for example, but 12 people died. Concealed carry is almost impossible to get in these states. There are many incidents you don't hear about where someone pulls a gun and attempts this sort of shit and a concealed carry holder stops them before they get to shoot 10+ people. THAT isn't glorified though, this shit is because they want to disarm you, ever wonder why that is or do you just let them pluck your heart strings and play you like a fiddle at their heart's content. STOP being a fucking sheep for once in your life.
2018-11-08 15:11
#192
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United States Pinkcow88 
Good luck with Skylord he is one of the most liberal people on this sight lmaooo
2018-11-08 15:27
#489
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United States f00bar 
*braindead
2018-11-09 23:23
+1
2018-11-08 22:08
Interesting that you say that as if you're implying the midwest is full of red states?? Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan are all all blue states. And I don't hear of shit from these parts. California is also ranked 43rd in the nation for gun deaths, whereas red states like Alaska and Alabama are 1st and 2nd Also, you sound kinda mad :/
2018-11-09 01:15
You are right, I've never heard of the gun violence problem in Chicago. Its only the homicide capital of the country. Detroit ranks in the top 3 in gun violence in the entire country. Also, you sound kinda dumb. :/
2018-11-09 06:15
yeah so fucking scary honestly I live in a country with very low gun violence but this always terrifies the fuck out of me and the fact that the NRA buys all the politicians is so fucked up my condolensces also, my thoughts and prayers for the victims that don't know it yet..
2018-11-08 22:14
America, specially left nut wing California is a fucking mental asylum. If you did not have guns you fucks would be killing each other with knives or cars.
2018-11-08 12:41
#87
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Bulgaria squezzi 
Lmao 0/8. How many people can you kill with a knife before they disarm you?
2018-11-08 14:10
Ask germans
2018-11-08 14:23
so...1 ?
2018-11-08 15:23
More than enough
2018-11-08 14:50
A knife is very effective in a close space
2018-11-09 16:50
#100
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Netherlands JopMans 
Luckily there ain't a license or something on cars...
2018-11-08 14:21
Yeah imagine you buying a car without those super strict and efficient licensing requirements or using your daddy's old truck to run over people. It's France all over again.
2018-11-08 14:25
+1
2018-11-08 17:37
#7
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Belgium KevinGatesYo 
Definetly Trump’s fault
2018-11-08 12:41
#8
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Spain 1492 
Damn sad to read this kind of news
2018-11-08 12:41
America is so fucked up lol. Fuck going to school there.
2018-11-08 12:47
It's more likely to die by a lightning strike than a shooting
2018-11-08 14:38
#143
gabs | 
Andorra DiaRhea 
gun deaths in USA in 2017- 15,549 deaths in USA from lightning in 2017- 16 But what do you expect from inbreds supporting guns, they cant do math
2018-11-08 14:49
Bhut its muh likelly
2018-11-08 15:18
lol
2018-11-08 15:25
#197
United States j_k 
stop using skewed stats chief
2018-11-08 15:30
I could say that about your evidence if you had shown any.
2018-11-09 00:39
#469
United States j_k 
What evidence do I have to show? That literally makes no sense, its known that US Congress was Majority Republican, so what stats do I have to show??
2018-11-09 19:50
Surprise surprise, the inbred are cousin-fuckers from Alabama who support gun rights. Coincidence?
2018-11-08 16:12
Imagine the constant news of lightning strikes that killed people, if lightning actually killed 15.000+ people in the US every year lol Breaking news: Massive lightning strikes hits trailer park in Alabama killing 15 rednecks.
2018-11-08 17:22
Rednecks is not a loss, no need to make news report
2018-11-08 19:59
gun deaths = shootings most are suicides/accidents
2018-11-08 21:50
This is american wo wo
2018-11-08 12:48
#18
malta | 
Malta vfXy0 
Who is carrying? And who is the IGL :o
2018-11-08 12:49
That’s a report
2018-11-08 12:53
#76
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Lithuania OnyxLT 
Lmao
2018-11-08 13:51
he is better than s1mple he is playing 1v12 but then he typed kill in console.
2018-11-08 13:54
#90
JW | 
United States VeryGodGuy 
pretty messed up but this is a solid comment
2018-11-08 14:13
#144
gabs | 
Andorra DiaRhea 
lmfao
2018-11-08 14:49
why are you blaming just trump when this problem is literally as old as the USA. youre just gunning each other down for no reason at all. its a habit. blame at least obama, bush, clinton, at least all the presidents after columbine
2018-11-08 12:54
The numbers are way higher than they used to be. Also, trump has been put under lots of pressure to do something, and he’s dodged all questioning about gun control. Probably to protect stupid conservatives wanting to shoot snakes in their yard or some shit
2018-11-08 12:57
no its because the republican party gets billions from the military industrial complex and weapons lobbies. as do the democrats. they play both sides. always.
2018-11-08 12:58
#59
smn | 
China HLTVMASTR 
which numbers are higher?
2018-11-08 13:26
Mass shootings are way higher.
2018-11-08 15:25
#83
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World Gottasniff 
LOL WHAT???? Homcides are down drastically in the last 20 years. Just because the media has turned extreme anti gun and cover shootings as a #1 news story for weeks doesnt mean numbers are higher. BTW AR-15's are banned in CA.
2018-11-08 14:06
#151
gabs | 
Andorra DiaRhea 
If California would be another country they would be doing better than Scandinavia, they're the 5th largest economy in the world are are feeding the poor US republican states. Too bad USA brings it down. Close CA borders and no more guns enter = no more shootings.
2018-11-08 14:59
#226
s1mple | 
Brazil wolfff 
lol? california the most expensive state in usa and they have a high number of homeless people, poverty, drug addiction just take a walk around LA and you gon find it
2018-11-08 15:53
The dude above you just saw their economy and made something up. I bet he has no idea about the poverty and homelessness.
2018-11-09 16:40
homicides are down but mass shootings are up
2018-11-09 17:46
Trump is literally blaming video games for mass shootings. How some people that play CS are still dumb enough to support him is beyond me. Same people that get outraged about female characters in games but when their cult leaders calls them mass shooters then they are okay with it...
2018-11-08 14:07
Yep, and multiple studies show that video games have no result of real life violence. It’s jist another tactic trump is using to defend the NRA
2018-11-08 15:09
politicians in the US have been blaming games for violence at least since Columbine, 1999, and probably before that. its a bipartisan effort.
2018-11-08 15:19
+1
2018-11-09 16:51
California has some of strictest gun laws in country. You’re far more likely to die from alcohol, car accident, and a million other things vs being shot and killed.
2018-11-08 12:54
doesnt really matter how strict 1 state is when there are a couple where you can buy a gun with no checks for a good price and there is no customs who check your luggage at every state border. needs a federal solution.
2018-11-08 12:55
There is no where in the country you can buy guns with no checks you fucking idiot. A background check on ALL gun purchases is federal law.
2018-11-08 14:40
if you can give me a credible source that says it is, i'll buy you a beer. wikipedia at least disagrees with you and so far no american ive met on this site has been able to produce a credible source on the law regarding this matter that disagrees with wikipedia. so i will assume wikipedia is correct. seeing how much interest there is in this topic, someone would have edited the page if it wasnt.
2018-11-08 15:21
#199
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World Gottasniff 
Source? Any firearm purchase at a dealer requires an FBI background check form ATF 4473. It’s mandatory. You’re watching too much CNN. The only purchases that do not require a background check are dad to son gifts etc, however it is illegal to purchase to a firearm on behalf of someone else to circumvent the 4473 background check. All politicians refuse to prosecute people who lie on the 4473 attempt to buy a gun then get denied. We should be putting these people in jail because they know they can’t own a gun, they try anyway get denied and zero repercussions
2018-11-08 15:34
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_backgrou.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_show_loophole link a credible source that shows why these atricles are wrong. im not interested in your version of the facts. i want the facts. if you cant produce any source, i call bullshit.
2018-11-08 15:35
#206
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World Gottasniff 
Lmao your so braindead. Here’s the fkn actual form from the ATF atf.gov/firearms/atf-form-4473-firearms-.. Every firearm I’ve ever purchased required me to fill out 4473. Buyin a gun down a shady alley from Tyrone Biggims = “gunshow loophole”.
2018-11-08 15:38
so you do agree that it is legally possible to buy a gun in a dark alley without background checks. thats great. why didnt you say that right away.
2018-11-09 17:47
#330
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Yugoslavia BuddDwyer 
you arent wrong, in most states you dont need a background check to purchase a firearm in a private sale and there are plenty of sites where you can find people from your area selling guns, some of them might ask for a background check even though your state doesnt require it but most of them just want to sell a gun so they wont a give a shit also there is a another loophole through hunting licenses but I am not too familiar with that ( you can google it ), I only know that it allows illegals and some other undesirables like felons to get their hands on a gun in some states
2018-11-08 20:20
then why do these guys keep saying that you do? fact free politics?
2018-11-08 21:27
#350
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Yugoslavia BuddDwyer 
idk I am not an american so I cant answer that but I think they feel safer living in the world of delusion or most of them are uneducated on this topic, I only know about this because we did a study on american gun culture/laws in school, there are some states where getting the guns is a tad bit difficult so they might live there and think that its this way everywhere but those states are a minority so they sound dumb when they say it
2018-11-08 21:44
What are you even talking about? It is law that you need a background check. Then you go on to say “link credible sources” while you link Wikipedia?
2018-11-09 16:43
wikipedia articles have sources. look at the bottom of the page. for the third time i will say the same thing in this thread: produce a credible source that disagrees with that wikipedia article and its sources. your opinion holds 0 value to me. as long as you dont give any source, all you have is opinion.
2018-11-09 16:44
What about the link from #206? And I don’t know what you are arguing. Are you saying you can LEGALLY agent a gun without a background check? Or are you saying it is easy to get it ILLEGALLY without a check. Because I would agree with you on the second one and argue that it’s a reason against gun control.
2018-11-09 16:53
that shows that there is a form. not that it is mandatory in every state. for your second question, yes to both. there are so many guns in america and you produce so many of them. they are cheap, you can buy them anywhere. legal and illegal. both are an issue and those issues are linked. also, because the war on drugs is dragging on for what, 40 years now, the drug trade is firmly in the hands of organized crime and with all the billions they make and the low prices of guns due to abundant supply, this ensures basically every criminal that ever sold any drugs, which is basically all of them, will have a gun. if your citizens didnt have so many guns to defend themselves, a lot less of them would get shot. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2759797.. Results. After adjustment, individuals in possession of a gun were 4.46 (P < .05) times more likely to be shot in an assault than those not in possession. Among gun assaults where the victim had at least some chance to resist, this adjusted odds ratio increased to 5.45 (P < .05). i think its weak that you can just say "well there are so many illegal guns, we cant possible do anything about that, its just a fact that everyone has guns and thats their sacred right even if it results in tens of thousands of deaths anually and causes immense tragedies every week". if you people had some spines and your government was capable, you would take measures to reduce both the legal and illegal availability of guns.
2018-11-09 17:08
m.dw.com/en/8-facts-about-gun-control-in.. I know you edited your thing but what are you trying to say? The government should go in and take away guns from people?
2018-11-09 17:10
"According to the ATF, anyone can sell a gun without an FFL from their home, online, at a flea market or at a gun show as long as he or she is not conducting the sale as part of regular business activity. One example would be someone who sells a firearm from his or her personal collection. Others who are exempt include those giving guns as gifts. Only individuals whose "principal motive" is to make a profit via sale must obtain an FFL. "
2018-11-09 17:09
Yea? You don’t need it for person to person because you can’t do a check. Sorry if I misunderstood what you were saying but I thought you were saying businesses don’t need it. I thought it was a given that they did. There also isn’t really a way to prevent this you know even if you support “putting a background check” on it. Criminals will get their hands on guns either way.
2018-11-09 17:14
im saying you can buy a gun without a background check. its very irrelevant what the details are. its legally possible to completely circumvent all registration or background checks on a gun, which means literally anyone can buy a gun, no matter what they did, crimes, spent time in an institution, locked up in guantanamo for 5 years.
2018-11-09 17:14
Of course a “good” person can buy it and give it to a bad person. There isn’t a way to stop this.
2018-11-09 17:16
thats not my definition of a good person. and there is a way to reduce it. make it harder to buy guns. but you dont want that. youd rather have tens of thousands of people get shot.
2018-11-09 17:38
That's why I put good in quotations. What do you mean by make it harder? Background checks? 99% of people agree. It won't stop a seemingly "good" person from giving their gun to a bad person. Also please don't make it seem like people against gun control want people to die, you sound like the media.
2018-11-11 21:44
it doesnt matter what ppl agree with, it matters what you vote. >Also please don't make it seem like people against gun control want people to die, you sound like the media. you have a binary choice: option 1: gun control and slightly less deaths by gunshot annually option 2: no gun control and the same amount of death. people who are against gun control do literally want people to die. that is the consequence of no gun control. adults have to make choices in life and take into account the consequences of their choices. you cant act like a 5 year old who wants to have their cake and eat it too. i would already like you people a lot more if you quit being a pussy about it and admitted that you value your guns higher than human life. at least you would be honest crazy people.
2018-11-11 22:22
this "you sound like the media" "omg cnn fake news" shit just shows how mentally and morally degraded america is. you dont have many good journalists left. not enough to maintain trust in their integrity. remember how a couple journalists uncovered the watergate scandal? that wouldnt happen today. theyd just take a bribe. and if they didnt, half the people in the country wouldnt believe them anyway. besides that, your president is one of the biggest sources of fake news in the country. you have 2 sides of media, there is a democrat and a republican side, and they both lie. you just have to learn to read in between the lines, just like people in europe have been doing for centuries.
2018-11-11 22:28
and corroborating this, wikipedia: Currently, federal law requires background checks (through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System) only for guns sold through licensed firearm dealers, which account for 78% of all gun sales in the United States. This figure was published in a 2017 study by the Annals of Internal Medicine which compared data from 1994, indicating 40% of recent gun acquisitions were completed without a background check, to a 2015 survey which found that 22% of recent gun transfers (purchased and nonpurchased) were completed without a background check 22% of legal gun sales without a background check. any crazy person can just buy or trade a gun legally, on the internet, from an acquantaince, whatever.
2018-11-09 17:11
the government has to reduce the supply of guns. the demand will stay high causing prices to go up, which means less people can afford to kill other people. its simple economics.
2018-11-09 17:12
It’s the governments responsibility to take guns away? What guns are they taking away? Who from? How will this become legal? How will they even do this without being attacked and causing a war?
2018-11-09 17:15
youre not reading what im saying. youre just regurgitating talking points. im not saying take anyones guns away. im saying reduce the availability of guns. for example, a voluntary recall. reduction of arms production for the internal market. reduction of gun smuggling. 100% mandatory background checks. no unregistered sales. all these things can be accomplished without even touching your sacred amendments.
2018-11-09 17:41
I thought you were suggesting a voluntary buyback like Australia. My bad for misunderstanding. I doubt a voluntary recall would do anything but go ahead. And 99% of people agree with "reduction of gun smuggling. 100% mandatory background checks. no unregistered sales." The only problem is that you said less guns = less shootings. But this isn't always the case. Why are the most unsafe events gun free events and the most secure are events with guns? Less guns may reduce crime, it may not. Places without defense are more likely to be attacked than places with.
2018-11-11 21:42
99% of people agree but they continue to vote for parties that fail to address the issue and rather devote their resources to the war on drugs, wars in the middle east, and bailing out banks, instead of solving these tragedies.
2018-11-11 22:13
in america there are more guns than people. and a lot of people get shot. most other countries have less guns and less people get shot there. so its highly likely that there is a correlation between guns and people getting shot. even though there are countries that have less guns and more shooting deaths, brazil is the only one i can think of now, and countries that also have many guns (still less than the USA, numbah wan), but less shootings, like switzerland, there is a large correlation. its shocking, i know. i understand if you need some time to process the fact that guns are used to shoot people. the cognitive dissonance must be unpleasant. if there are many guns, then anyone with a gun, which is a lot of people, can go to any place where there are no guns and start shooting. most people dont do that because they are not crazy. but some people are. now, you can try to put a bunch of guns in every classroom, place of worhip, government building, every home, and make sure everyone is conceiled carrying in public, but that wont make the shooting stop. for 2 reasons at least 1. shooters will just move from schools and public places to libraries or swimming pools or churches, anywhere where there are less guns. its like trying to dam in a river. it will flow somewhere else. 2. that just makes sure that whever someone loses their shit they have a gun within reach and can start shooting people you have to fix a problem at the source. the sources here are 1. a fuckload of weapons and 2. fucked up people. you can also partly blame the government and media for this for constantly making people live in fear. reducing either 2 of those will reduce the problem. more guns will only make it worse.
2018-11-11 22:17
there is like some huge fucking gap in american peoples minds when it comes to this issue, it seems pretty simple to me. less guns = less shooting.
2018-11-09 17:48
Currently, federal law requires background checks (through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System) only for guns sold through licensed firearm dealers, which account for 78% of all gun sales in the United States. This figure was published in a 2017 study by the Annals of Internal Medicine which compared data from 1994, indicating 40% of recent gun acquisitions were completed without a background check, to a 2015 survey which found that 22% of recent gun transfers (purchased and nonpurchased) were completed without a background check
2018-11-08 15:35
and please keep the petty insults you learned on tv to yourself. i dont care about them. the only times i watched CNN in my life were on 9/11 and on vacation.
2018-11-08 15:37
So that justifies hundreds, even thousands of innocent people dying each year guns?
2018-11-08 12:58
+1
2018-11-08 13:04
Why don’t we ban alcohol and cigarettes? Easily kill 1000x more people and not including the cancer associated with alcohol. Most gun deaths I’m pretty sure are suicide. All I’m saying is it’s manufactured fear and people act as though it’s happening around every street corner.
2018-11-09 14:00
It’s sad that those things happen, but what we really do about it? Theres way too much money in those industries for people to want to get rid of them. Although for cigarettes i know they are already really expensive where i live to discourage people from buying them, at least where i live ($20+ for just one pack)
2018-11-09 21:36
Yet they're practically doing things wrong.
2018-11-08 20:24
#27
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Finland vetu104 
That's what happens when every nutjob can walz into a gun store and pick up a weapon designed to kill people.
2018-11-08 12:56
#46
valens | 
United States ImDefex 
That's not true. Despite what you have heard, it's hard to buy a gun legally here. In Cali especially. In the south idk. I live in the Midwest and its hard to get a permit to own a firearm here.
2018-11-08 13:06
They can’t. We have background checks.
2018-11-09 16:44
LETS GET IT!!!!
2018-11-08 12:57
#30
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Norway Hokken 
2018-11-08 12:57
Sending prayers!
2018-11-08 12:57
Just like every country and influential people...
2018-11-08 12:58
#35
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France France98123 
just a typicaal wenesday in america
2018-11-08 12:59
Americanos fucking stupid and don't get things because they don't want to change. First thing to come in mind about U.S when asking from foreigners is Guns/Burgers/fat people
2018-11-08 13:00
#72
ALEX | 
United Kingdom HoRyzen 
From an Albanian hahahhahahahhahahaha nt 0/8
2018-11-08 13:42
#73
ALEX | 
United Kingdom HoRyzen 
Albania has more murders by firearm per million that US OMEGALUL corrupt mafia run country.
2018-11-08 13:45
ah nvm
2018-11-08 14:24
#107
ALEX | 
United Kingdom HoRyzen 
UK supports guns hahahhahahahahaaahaha the country where you cant buy deodorant until your 18, the place where you cant buy kitchen knives without ID, yeah nt serb p.s. Albania is better than Serbia and Kosovo is independent.
2018-11-08 14:27
not guns but albanians thats what i wrote. together with another retarded country - america ps: yeah they are better, living in bunkers in 2018 and having 3 meter tall walls over their houses
2018-11-08 14:30
#112
ALEX | 
United Kingdom HoRyzen 
hahahahaha nt 3rd world
2018-11-08 14:30
#114
ALEX | 
United Kingdom HoRyzen 
the only good thing serbs have ever done is give birth to Arnautovic
2018-11-08 14:30
#39
chrisJ | 
Finland Motori 
Fake shooting cnn
2018-11-08 13:01
#41
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China Tomaten 
pray for them
2018-11-08 13:03
I made this thread 1 hour ago.
2018-11-08 13:03
#47
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Cali strictest gun laws in America. Do u really think more laws will stop people from killing other people?
2018-11-08 13:09
ahahah good laugh man :D
2018-11-08 13:31
#80
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Lithuania OnyxLT 
Dodges question completely lol
2018-11-08 13:54
No point in debating Trump cultists, it's like arguing with Islamists. Actually many of Trump's supporters are Christian fundamentalists, so pretty much the same anyway. Also kind of obvious that state laws are pretty irrelevant in the US considering that there aren't any real borders.
2018-11-08 14:14
A background check is enforced for all gun purchases in EVERY state. It is federal law you dumb fuck.
2018-11-08 14:43
I wonder why terminally mentally ill people are getting them daily then? lmao, such flawed logic.
2018-11-08 15:10
It isn't logic, its factual law. Only way people with documented mental problems obtain guns is by BREAKING the law or taking one from someone that doesn't have problems because they didn't keep their guns secure. GUNS have always been here, school shootings and mass shootings have not. Yet the first thing that is blamed is the gun. Gee, its almost like they have a different agenda than getting to the root cause of the problem if you think for 2 fucking seconds for yourself.
2018-11-08 15:15
Kid that shot up the school in Florida bought the gun from a dealer. You can look it up if you don’t believe me. Keep in mind the kid was UNDER 21 and bought himself a fucking semiautomatic rifle. Pathetic
2018-11-08 15:18
And we never heard from him again, damn
2018-11-08 15:43
#222
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United States Ch3ap 
And that was totally legal.
2018-11-08 15:49
like that matters. so many of these shootings are done by students or other people with no known criminal background
2018-11-08 15:25
Bingo, so more laws is going to do what exactly? Unless you intend to attempt to disarm millions of armed citizens and starting civil war II.
2018-11-09 16:08
You dont have to disarm people, there are other ways than to just ban guns. Not necessarily more laws, just something that works. Could have people go thru some kind of course, like with a drivers license, and have the mentally unstable cut in the process somehow, i dont know, but if nothing is done these shootings will keep happening and probably more frequently also
2018-11-09 20:19
You do have to go through a course to get a concealed carry permit, otherwise you have to open carry.
2018-11-09 23:18
+1
2018-11-08 15:25
#366
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Lithuania OnyxLT 
Ye politics all over the world make no difference they are all the same just different names all run by the same people.
2018-11-08 22:03
It’s a cult? You’re an idiot. There are many brain dead people on all sides. I can call all leftists cucks but it doesn’t provide anything productive and is stupid.
2018-11-09 16:47
#91
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Even better answer.
2018-11-08 14:13
No, but it could prevent all these MASSACRINGS of random people
2018-11-08 14:27
#128
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United States Trump2020KAG 
It won’t help. That guy could have killed 50 more people if he had a bomb. Killer will kill no matter what the laws are. We just have a lot of deranged people here who think the best option is killing larger amounts of people.
2018-11-08 14:41
if they are so deranged why arent they blowing shit up now, the more the better right ? by your logic they would already be using bombs, but they dont, so perhaps they arent THAT deranged
2018-11-08 15:02
#218
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Not everyone can make bombs plus the amount of material needed makes it to much of a task.
2018-11-08 15:47
thats exactly why it would help. its easy getting a weapon and shoot a place up, not so easy blowing something up
2018-11-08 15:59
Bombs don’t kill nearly as many people as guns. Bombs are less effective and you also have to make them. They kill 1 or 2 at most. Did you see that recent video of the guy who blew himself up in the crowded NYC subway? Only a few people were injured.
2018-11-08 15:12
#216
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Big difference from a idiot with a bomb and someone who knows what they are doing. Look at suicide bombers in Middle East. They kill 20-30-80 people at times.
2018-11-08 15:44
And how often does that happen in the US? There have been FIFTEEN shootings in the US since the Pittsburgh massacre. Sounds like we have our priorities slightly mixed up.
2018-11-08 15:58
more guns would solve the problem
2018-11-08 13:12
RIP from Iran
2018-11-08 13:14
As if trump is the first president to not care about gun control. Your beloved Obama didn´t do anything as well
2018-11-08 13:18
wtf are you talking about? Obama actually tried to pass an anti gun law. I don't think you understand how the system works. The president decide what because law. That's like democracy 101.
2018-11-08 14:18
What you describe seems more like monarchy than democracy lol. With the huge gun lobby in Murica we'll never get gun control lawd there
2018-11-08 15:44
#233
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United States Knight13 
WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY WE ARE A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC GOD DAMNIT
2018-11-08 16:00
#54
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Poland woss 
Anyone can kill 10 people without having a gun. A bomb is easy to construct using products available in the shops, anyone can get a big car and drive into a group. If everyone carried a gun in the school then someone starting a shooting would get shot back fast.
2018-11-08 13:18
Really bad bait. "If everyone carried a gun in the school then someone starting a shooting would get shot back fast." But it might be a good idea for a battle royal game.
2018-11-08 13:39
#169
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Poland woss 
No, it's true. All the big shootings take place in schools, uni campuses etc, because people are not allowed to carry guns there so the killer is pretty safe until the police arrives. It was so easy for Breivik, none of the 77 people had a gun and he knew it, because regular people are not allowed to carry guns in Norway in any place.
2018-11-08 15:17
Your point would make sense if there was a gun which could only be used against the perpetrator. But the thing is there is no such thing. So you cannot guarantee if the guns which are only allowed to self protect won't be used against the students. If that phrase was complicated let me say this way. You cannot guarantee me that a student won't shoot another student or teacher with the given gun.
2018-11-08 15:23
#243
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Poland woss 
But criminals can still get guns illegaly, so someone who wants to kill many people will get it anyway and have an unarmed crowd. You can't guarantee that a lorry driver won't run over 50 people, but you still don't ban lorries.
2018-11-08 16:16
You are beyond stupid aren't you.
2018-11-08 16:32
Most shootings in the USA are where people aren't allowed with guns, dumbass.
2018-11-08 19:26
#311
2018-11-08 19:42
Again, 12 y/o IQ argument
2018-11-08 19:47
Either explain how it's a 12 yo argument or just stop baiting and wasting time
2018-11-08 19:52
Good people won't have guns to defend themselves while criminals will. Crime will be much more frequent in the states where gun laws weren't strict before. Loose gun laws, as you see in Switzerland has very low crime. That's common sense.
2018-11-08 19:57
"good people" how will you be able to determine theese good people to give them weapons. "[they]won't have guns to defend themselves while criminals will" yeah and in order to passifize theese said maniacs you should have harsher gun laws. That was the reason i said #311. "Loose gun laws, as you see in Switzerland has very low crime." Correlation doesnt imply causation. Let me give you a simpler example this is the fire arm ownership rate pf us vs the world d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/201.. this the gun homicide rates d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/201.. You can clearly see that usa's mass shooting problem comes from the fact that its really easy to obtain a gun.
2018-11-08 20:11
Hahahah nope. Nice biased graphs. Great example of how to lie with true statistics. The statistic of the shootings in Norway was mostly Breivik where one man could kill so many because no one else there had guns. And just fantastic how they left out Switzerland. But I don't blame you, such one sided biased statistics, where they just select the countries that suits their agenda makes it easy to brainwash people like you.
2018-11-08 20:40
You can't stop gun violence by providing guns to the "good people". The only way to stop it is to have harsher regulations which will make buying a gun way harder. Let me put it in the most basic level More guns = less predictability thus more violence Less guns = more predictability thus less violence. Ffs it shouldn't be this hard to understand
2018-11-08 20:46
You are making no sense and please explain countries like Switzerland, Serbia etc. No one dares do crime there. More guns = more predictability thus less violence. Less guns = less predictability thus more violence Ffs it shouldn't be this hard to understand.
2018-11-08 20:52
Seeing words aren't your strongest suit let's try this youtu.be/PTIRi-c4d5g
2018-11-09 14:07
So I assume this is your way of showing submission since you couldn't handle logic
2018-11-09 15:37
I'm overwhelmed by your stupidity
2018-11-09 15:40
Only going for personal insults because you can't argue, a true sign of weakness.
2018-11-09 15:41
I have argued with the conventional way which is writing. I have argued with charts to make you understand that I am right. Seeing they all failed I argued using a video. After seeing none has worked nor will work I jumped to the conclusion which is the fact that your stupidity overwhelmed me as I am left with no other way of arguing left. In conclusion you really don't have a fully functioning brain
2018-11-09 17:15
Bad excuse for lacking logic, nice try.
2018-11-09 17:17
I've tried to be somewhat polite but honestly fuck you and your non existing brain cells /close/
2018-11-09 17:20
Cry more kid.
2018-11-09 18:14
If guns are completely banned in the USA it will be a million times harder for average mentally ill school shooters to obtain guns. Only the big time criminals like drug cartels will have guns. But the mass shooters will not get them, and will instead get rehab or get places in a mental institution
2018-11-08 19:28
#342
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United States pSilent 
Or, the big crime organizations will completely control the demand of guns and expand their spheres of influence to further lock down poor urban areas or maybe even expand into rural areas when the demand for guns opens up there. This could easily be 10x more disastrous than prohibition or the war on drugs.
2018-11-08 21:24
The difference between prohibition on drugs and guns is its way harder to construct a gun while itsnt that hard to make a drug
2018-11-09 14:09
Are you 12?
2018-11-08 19:32
How did you reach to that conclusion Einstein?
2018-11-08 19:42
By reading your posts obviously.
2018-11-08 19:49
You are so delusional wow
2018-11-08 15:53
#291
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United States pSilent 
LOL
2018-11-08 17:33
Literally my reaction
2018-11-08 19:29
delete
2018-11-08 13:20
the tool that can instantly delete people from life with just a finger is not the problem ofc
2018-11-08 13:20
#58
smn | 
China HLTVMASTR 
KANYE 2024
2018-11-08 13:24
#63
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Brazil fuNNa 
Sad but normal week in USA, shootings every week
2018-11-08 13:33
so suspicious man so many indiscriminate shootings. why won't they organize and attack political targets? they can't all be 10IQ? this is food for conspiracy theory. the only rational consequence of this action is to feed social unrest. also if you take all the guns from america the corrupt central state can impose any law upon the citizens that they want. don't let them take your guns! maybe tweak the law that in cities nobody can have a gun or that only some people can have large stacks of gun in order to be able to dispose of the government. it sucks that so many europeans are at the complete mercy of the police state. then they are fed this kind of media to rationalize being emasculated. because there is only black and white in most people their minds.
2018-11-08 13:40
#89
United States koth 
Almost all shootings like this are at gun free zones. If there is a law that says no guns allowed wouldn't you go there if you were looking to murder a lot of people? My solution to try would be having every child see a counselor at least once a month and talk to them about all their issues. Then the counselor needs to decide if that child needs to be seen weekly or more often.
2018-11-08 14:12
i'm not proposing a law that says no guns allowed. i'm simply thinking about updating your constitution to the 21st century (even though you didn't ask for it lol). i agree with the concept of armed civilians to be able to overthrow any government that doesn't abide by the rules of the people, according to the lessons of the english settlers from living in the english monarchy. but back then america was mostly rural area's with city dwellers being mostly traders or shopkeepers. in such a decentralized society it works that everybody can have rifles because most communities know each other deeply and would simply fend out people they don't trust with rifles. now you got huge cities with a lot of poverty and easy access to guns because the market is flooded with an easy supply if rifles/guns wherever you live, an indirect consequence of national gun laws. so it doesn't matter that these zone's are gun free zones as long as the national policy keeps the same, but i wouldn't want to remove the easy access to rifles when it is needed (when fema enacts its policies f.e. aka creating a police state), but i would remove all the guns and rifles in huge cities and vastly improve the policing abilities (and clean them out).
2018-11-08 15:11
So how would you fix this problem ?
2018-11-08 13:39
#92
United States koth 
Mandatory all children need to see a counselor at least once a month. Then the counselor decides if it needs to be a weekly meeting.
2018-11-08 14:14
or just stop feeding the kids antidepressants and adhd "medicine" when 99% of those who get it prescribed dont need it
2018-11-08 14:30
if they would all had guns: 0 dead people! @MURICA: buy guns, all of you -> safest country in the world
2018-11-08 13:40
#94
United States koth 
If they all had guns there would be a couple people dead and the shooter. Its a very sad situation and putting the blame on all of america and not just the shooter is just ignorant.
2018-11-08 14:16
your first statement is very bold. no one knows what would happen if they all had guns. your first sentence is basically what the NRA says. I was making fun of that ludicrous opinion by exaggerating it to the maximum. I wasnt serious. and I especially did not blame all of america. I was mocking the arguments which the NRA brings up.
2018-11-08 14:29
#69
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Finland siloquez 
AMERICAAAAAA FUCK YYEAH!!!! Let me hear someone say, if they'd have guns themselves they could've defended themselves against the shooter!?!?!?
2018-11-08 13:41
U S A U S A U S A !
2018-11-08 14:01
#331
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Europe Deja_GG_Vu 
you think they would have more of a chance with their fists?
2018-11-08 20:21
#341
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Finland siloquez 
Nah tactical nukes for everyone.
2018-11-08 21:10
bich im flexin
2018-11-08 13:41
#74
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Denmark TurboHenning 
How is shooting possible?
2018-11-08 13:45
#78
United States koth 
Should just make it mandatory for children to see a counselor on a monthly basis. This will help determining if a person is stable or needs help in the future.
2018-11-08 13:53
na don't care their problem
2018-11-08 14:03
#84
United States koth 
You have a very sick mind.
2018-11-08 14:07
no i don't is just that im not effected by that so i don't care
2018-11-08 14:38
So you feel the need to express that you dont care? You have no sympathy for victims of violence. That is what makes you a sick individual.
2018-11-08 14:39
why should i feel sympathy for people i don't know or i'm not affected by their deaths??do you know how many people get stabbed everyday?ur being delusional do your part vote for what you believe many nutjobs will always exist no matter what stupid people snap,if ur not affected don't care,i can't get emotional over a movie because i know its fake
2018-11-08 14:47
short answer : i don't care
2018-11-08 14:59
Idiot kills 11 ppl Blames trump
2018-11-08 14:09
Always. People jumping on the news bandwagon.
2018-11-08 15:09
but commiefornia is so liberal. how could dis happen.
2018-11-08 14:13
Gun control is treating the symptom. The disease is the collective American psyche.
2018-11-08 14:22
#116
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United Kingdom Ruicko 
collective is the wrong word. its a trend but the phenomena is isolated to those with severe delusion and other psychotic conditions. its mainly induced by a lack of parenting and the label of an outcast. few people do something like this without first believing that they were 'wronged' in the first place.
2018-11-08 14:33
I agree.. but the collective American psyche effectively apologizes for them, pretends that there aren't entitlement issues, education issues and a complete lack of ability to deal with mental illness, and also fails in recognizing its own failures, particularly in regard to the clear, undeniable white domestic terrorism issue that it definitely has - which has caused a number of recent shootings. This is before we mention gun control.
2018-11-08 15:17
#221
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United Kingdom Ruicko 
I agree with your point that America's mental health epidemic is often denied which doesn't improve the situation. However I wouldn't conflate a simple homicide with terrorism (it is not political), nor attempt to attach the perpetrator's ethnicity to his deeds without considering the reason why white men are more prone to this kind of violence - which in my view is because they are so often painted as evil monsters who are the source of all oppression and marginalisation of others.
2018-11-08 15:49
I'm not conflating. I didn't mean this massacre. But there have clearly been politically and racially motivated massacres recently. No one likes to accept that. It's always some "loser, loner, lone-wolf" or whatever.
2018-11-08 17:16
#98
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Other VladimirLucas 
i'm beginning to see why so many people hate trump this is just a disgrace
2018-11-08 14:20
#99
Finland TBHB 
USA -No gun control -School shootings galore -Idea of democracy is a two-party system which divides the country even further -Education is really bad. Yes, Harvard, MIT etc. are top schools in the world, but the education for young people overall has gone downhill for decades -Ridiculously expensive healthcare system. Yes we pay taxes for our schooling and healthcare in Finland, but on the other hand it's also funding a system where you don't end up with aggressive Pariah-class citizen for whom only way to survive is the life of crime and suicidal rampage in schools.
2018-11-08 14:20
+1
2018-11-08 14:22
Facts
2018-11-08 15:40
Agreed with everything except education. Although right-wingers are trying to privatize public schools, we do have a really good education system. Except for the fact that if you go to 4-year college you fall into crippling debt, but im talking about the content of what is taught here
2018-11-08 16:02
Yeah well maybe I cut too straight into the point. By saying quality of education is getting worse and worse means that the average salary of teachers hasn't been following the increased costs and in the meantime the job is getting more and more demanding. Budget cuts to schools means that the teachers need to to more with less resources (money, but also educational equipment). Education itself might be good and the teachers are getting good basic education to do their job. It's the lack of support which starts the downward spiral. Another story is the worldview offered in the schools in biblebelt. Creationists views have overthrown scientific viewpoints in some counties and as an example sex ed is highly controversial subject in some schools.
2018-11-08 16:36
This is America
2018-11-08 14:21
#102
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Germany XRippeR 
Republicans are too dumb to realize
2018-11-08 14:22
Yup blaming a psychopath on Republicans. You are not brain washed at all.
2018-11-08 15:12
#178
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Germany XRippeR 
Well they support NRA
2018-11-08 15:20
So? They probably support a lot of other things as well I dont see you blaming them. Also you think the NRA supports murders?
2018-11-08 15:47
#242
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Germany XRippeR 
nvm, you are a retard
2018-11-08 16:15
NRA is a bunch of goddamn communists blocking nukes from the hands of good people.
2018-11-08 16:23
The killer was some 20 yo from middle east 😂
2018-11-08 15:20
#181
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Germany XRippeR 
what i mean is that they dont want guns taking away from them. doesnt matter there are lots of shootings by18 year old white boys. so why give them a gun in the first place ?
2018-11-08 15:22
The gunman has yet to be identified. You literally just made that shit up, dumbfuck
2018-11-08 15:27
Witnesseses have said so, its all over the news retard. And dont worry he will be identified soon, then you can come back here when you know im right.
2018-11-08 16:49
well this comment didnt age well
2018-11-09 18:05
?? Reply needs to have actual content
2018-11-09 18:28
?? Reply needs to have actual content
2018-11-09 18:48
#111
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United Kingdom Ruicko 
lmao lets see if the democrats do anything about it now they control the house. i guarantee this will change nothing. you're blaming the people you're told to blame and it's not your fault it's the media's fault. blame the legislative process that causes any bill with the slightest tinge of controversy to go up in flames at committee stage
2018-11-08 14:30
Trust me they’ll try, but with republican control of the senate, it’s looking like gridlock for another 2 years.
2018-11-08 16:04
da world is fk'd up homies
2018-11-08 14:31
>commiefornia has the toughest gun control laws. >blames trump for gun control laws
2018-11-08 14:37
#118
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United States Merk0 
All I got to say is that cars kill just as many people in America. Almost all homecides are committed by handguns and more than 50% of all gun related deaths annually are suicides. Also an ar-15 shoots a .22 round not even capable of taking down a grown deer without a perfectly placed shot. It does little damage and is made to penetrate with little damage. If someone wanted to do damage it would be a bad choice. A knife would do a better job at inflicting damage. Which is what we saw happen a couple years ago with the Riverview stabbing. Same amount of people attacked but with a higher mortality rate that usually seen. They only go after it because it looks like a m4 that our military uses and is the most popular gun on sale. Stats are over inflated and shoved in our face everyday. It's sad to see people go, especially like this, but the fact still stands that this isn't as big of a problem as people make it out to be. Also your naieve if you think banning guns will stop this. I could buy a working military grade AR for cheap off the internet and have it shipped to my door without a problem. No US law banning weapons could stop this. Yes it would be illegal for me to do this under new law but it also is illegal under the laws now. Also it should be said that it is so easy to do that even a 10 year old kid could do this undetected. This goes for the EU and any other place that has minor censorship/uncensored internet. You need to remember these people are sick in the head. Many of them will do whatever it takes to hurt others no matter the cost.
2018-11-08 14:41
The shooting was either a 9mm or a 45 pistol.
2018-11-08 14:41
#139
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United States Merk0 
Probably a .45 but some 9mm rounds are pretty devastating they have low kinetic energy so it is very easy for them to get lodged in the body and cause problems. Not really surprised. These people plan this shit out before going in. For instance the synagogue in Pittsburgh has really only 1 exit out the front and seats over 100 people. The guy went into one of the biggest and oldest Jewish synagogues ready to take as many as possible.
2018-11-08 14:51
I was going off an interview with a guy inside saying it was very loud and a pistol.
2018-11-08 15:14
#119
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Poland sthEn 
This wouldn't have happened if EVERYBODY in this club had a gun. MORE GUNS!!!!!!!!!!
2018-11-08 14:37
#126
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United States Merk0 
Your right we need to give everyone a golden scar from fortnite
2018-11-08 14:40
#142
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Poland sthEn 
Sorry, i have no idea what "a golden scar from fortnite" is, because i'm an adult, and i don't play games for 10 year old kids. P.S. It's "you're", not "your".
2018-11-08 14:49
#145
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United States Merk0 
Lmao nice bait
2018-11-08 14:49
+1 Now he said "nice bait" to hide that he started crying because it hit him hard
2018-11-08 19:35
haha wp
2018-11-09 17:06
AVADA KEDAVRA
2018-11-08 14:37
#123
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United States Merk0 
Also a blue wave isn't very likely if you look at the statistics. Not saying dems won't win but it won't be as one sided as some think.
2018-11-08 14:38
Isn't California like a third world section of land in those united states?
2018-11-08 14:45
high taxes and fake people, gotta love California
2018-11-08 14:50
No California is the most populated but certainly isn’t 3rd world. It’s probably the most 1st world in the USA tbh
2018-11-08 15:13
#234
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United States Windy_C 
Slab city? There's plenty of other camps like that in the desert bro lol. Where do you see shit like that except cali, az, or nm?
2018-11-08 16:01
#148
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Finland Lehtori 
Their fault they weren't armed. More guns, less shootings! #ThisIsAmerica
2018-11-08 14:51
#180
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Canada thelegend27 
hello there king of nordic celebrity
2018-11-08 15:21
someones going to shoot Trump to prove a point on gun control
2018-11-08 14:52
yes cuz leftism is the politics of peace.
2018-11-08 15:09
flair checks out really hard
2018-11-08 15:13
Why? Do you envy China cuz of their gun control? Give it some time soon USA will have the same freedom as China. Don't worry Mr useful CNN liberal.
2018-11-08 15:35
2nd world and coming off of being a communist dictatorship. Sounds free to me.
2018-11-08 15:59
Exactly. That is the point. And that is where the USA is headed thanks to useful liberals like you. GJ.
2018-11-08 16:48
#150
Sweden PPH 
Yeah lets blame trump, npc's at their finest
2018-11-08 14:57
#174
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Canada thelegend27 
imagine unironically calling other people npcs y i k e s
2018-11-08 15:18
#223
Sweden PPH 
Imagine not understanding npc meme.
2018-11-08 15:50
yes people who follow leftist ideologies are npcs my politics is identical to ben shapiros but im a free thinker
2018-11-09 18:08
just an average day in murica, idiots refuse to learn from their mistakes
2018-11-08 15:16
Shit bro, my prayers with their families
2018-11-08 15:17
Yeah its Trump faulth that some guy from middle east (most likely muslim) started shooting people 🙄
2018-11-08 15:18
Muslims don’t shoot up schools and bars, white people do. gannett--cdn-com.cdn.ampproject.org/i/s/..
2018-11-08 15:22
Check up the statistics on who are doing the mass shootings in the USA Ignorance is a bliss
2018-11-08 15:36
But this time it wasnt a white guy, nt leftist. Witnesseses have already gave their info about a 20 year old bearded guy that looked middle east, check the news libtard. And dont you think i knows its mostly white ppl who do that shit in the shithole usa? Pls its common sense, get out of here with your 29 IQ replies.
2018-11-08 16:54
Oh congratz first time you where right? Lmao
2018-11-08 17:04
Then it was fake news about a bearded middle east looking guy. mobile.twitter.com/JLRedemption/status/1..
2018-11-08 17:06
And where did i deny its mostly white people who do that? Thats right you pulled it out off your destroyed asshole. I thought finns where smart but you proved me wrong, or u are some fakeflagging 3rd worlder. So unless the information was fake news, its mostly leaning towards what i said. He will be identified soon anyways, so we will see who was right. Btw the guy that shot and killed many at a gay club in usa recently was indeed a muslim, so get the fuck out.
2018-11-08 17:00
what a low IQ post and the retard who shot up the bar wasn't middle eastern so just another thing you were wrong on, unluko
2018-11-08 17:02
Low IQ post? Have you seen your own posts?xDDD Its obvious you are wrong about many things in life, thats why you celebrate the one and only time you are correct. And i said based on witness report on twitter its most likely, never confirmed since we didnt know until now. Gl with your autism
2018-11-08 17:13
"But this time it wasnt a white guy, nt leftist." you wanted it to be a muslim so bad lmao keep coming with the salt, I love it
2018-11-08 17:13
I said that half an hour ago when the information was leading towards that. Why would i give a fuck about who the shooter is? Just think about it for a second. Its a damn tragedy regardless of who was carrying the gun. And frankly idgaf about usa politics, since shit like this happens on a regular basis anyways.
2018-11-08 17:26
oh shut up its so obivous that you wanted him to be a middle eastern person so you can blame muslims for everything wrong in ur shitty life
2018-11-09 17:31
Lmao.. You're clueless man. Like i said but you failed to understand is, the witness information that was out there was leading towards a middle eastern man. And i was wrong this time since the shooter has been confirmed to be a American marine veteran. However most shit that happens (read: terror attacks etc) in France, Germany, Sweden, UK and various places in EU has middle eastern/muslim perpetrators. My life is 10x better then yours but thanks for asking kiddo, its obvious you are some left retard and unsuccessful in in your ''life''. Have fun cleaning dishes, toilets or w/e you do for a living you poor degenerated incel fuck.
2018-11-09 18:04
Muslims use trucks, they don't shoot people.
2018-11-09 08:01
#176
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Canada thelegend27 
i told you about those shootings man i told you
2018-11-08 15:19
Expected from money is more important than life country
2018-11-08 15:24
#198
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Germany XRippeR 
America has the dumbest right wing in entire world. how could they support NRA ?
2018-11-08 15:31
#209
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United States Err0h 
ez. m-o-n-e-y.
2018-11-08 15:38
USA. Wealthy and with freedom. Germany. Not even allowed free speech. Which is dumber?
2018-11-08 16:51
"What can we possibly do to prevent this" Says the only nation where this happens on a daily basis
2018-11-08 15:37
Everyone in the country knows how to fix the problem, it’s just money is more important than american lives to fucking repubs.
2018-11-08 15:56
Freedom is more important my leftist friend. Not money. If you like gun control so much move to China or Japan.
2018-11-08 17:04
This reply is literally why most of america thinks trumpsters are retards
2018-11-08 17:28
Yes most of America is heavily brainwashed by liberal institutions.
2018-11-08 17:40
Then why didn't Obama fix the issue when given the chance for 8 years? Was the 14 mass shootings under his watch not enough? I'm not a political person, but both sides are equally guilty. The left is also divisive when a group showed up at Tucker Carlson's home and allegedly broke one of his doors. And Maxine Waters calling on Americans to attack republicans / Trump staffers...real classy and good problem solving.
2018-11-08 17:32
It wasn’t fixed during Bush’s either. It’s called gridlock: both sides can’t decide on partisan issues, so nothing gets done. The right blocked almost everything obama tried to pass through congress because they had the majority. And this was just to make obama look bad. That’s why your typical repub argues that “Obama didn’t do shit.” Well newsflash to them, Trump is a racist retard and Bush is a war criminal.
2018-11-08 19:22
"And this was just to make obama look bad", like that isn't happening to Trump right now? Trump is doing everything he campaigned for in 2016 so I'm not sure what people are surprised about. If you're calling Trump racist about the "caravan", you can't just let mass quantities of people into the country. Who knows what precedent that would set if another wave of immigrants start storming upwards. Bush wouldn't have to be a "war criminal" if Bill Clinton killed or captured Bin Laden when he had multiple chances, but didn't because he didn't want to start an international incident...that worked out well. There's enough blame to go around for both sides.
2018-11-08 21:55
Strickter Gunlaws can only do so much when there is millions of illegal guns flooding. Shit like this has been happenings in usa for DECADES. Republicans, Democrats, Liberals doesnt matter who is in charge. It will keep happening and you never learn.
2018-11-08 17:34
it was in the state with the strictest gun laws OMEGALUL
2018-11-08 21:38
and those laws are still a joke compared to other countries
2018-11-08 21:40
I mean we’re pretty much never gonna get rid of guns. It’s a constitutional amendment, so it’s gonna be insanely hard to remove
2018-11-08 21:41
but if you never start to change things then it's for certain that they'll never change idk tho, maybe you're right and it just isn't realistic to make that change
2018-11-08 21:42
#210
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Nepal hpbaxx 
I'm sure your praying will help and change something
2018-11-08 15:39
#211
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Finland G0Dteukkab 
thats fucked up
2018-11-08 15:39
#229
s1mple | 
Brazil wolfff 
the problem in usa is the people, average american is what used to be the scum of europe or a slave, plus their school system sucks so they will have these kinda things unfortunately
2018-11-08 15:57
Literally how does this have to do with education??😂😂 It doesn’t
2018-11-08 16:05
This is what you get when you don't do gun-control, selling guns at Walmart
2018-11-08 16:06
Nothing of value was lost. Nice killstreak.
2018-11-08 16:21
12/1 KD not to shabby 🙄
2018-11-08 17:36
#255
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Dominican Republic g8Q0wHY 
Feels west wood man
2018-11-08 16:35
new laws wouldn't really do anything, this is just what the people of america are xD
2018-11-08 16:36
MUH RIGHT MUH 2ND AMMENDMENT
2018-11-08 16:38
incoming hundreds of people with very obvious, surface level criticisms without even a hint of realistic solution
2018-11-08 16:46
Countries like Switzerland and Czech Republic have very lose gun laws and no problems with such shootings. Seems more like a cultural rather than a legislation problem.
2018-11-08 16:47
It is the case but anti gun cucks just want to disarm everyone cuz they are brainwashed
2018-11-08 16:50
Why stop there, remove all laws and every man for himself. Why should we have laws? If I want to shoot someone because I feel like it I should have the right to! That is true freedom.
2018-11-08 18:11
That is a type of freedom. But i am only advocating for the right to bear arms.
2018-11-08 18:39
#324
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Yugoslavia BuddDwyer 
not very loose compared to america in CZ you need to be 21 to get a self defense gun licence, you need pass psychiatric test, theoretic test and practice test in most states in USA you just need to be 18 and you can buy a gun
2018-11-08 19:58
Thats cause most states have very liberal gun laws with basically all of them being in the South and Midwest.
2018-11-08 20:27
#271
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Kyrgyzstan CheeLongQua 
KKona Clap YEEHAW
2018-11-08 17:00
#273
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
Guns were never the problem! It's always the people! Imagine having 1 armed security guard with vest, helmet, full utilities, and AK-47. He woulda 1 tapped the marine and everyone would be buying him beers.
2018-11-08 17:02
#282
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Canada Herodionus 
Terrorist Win MVP: Ian David Long for most eliminations
2018-11-08 17:18
yikes
2018-11-08 17:24
I hope that you're 12 otherwise I'm truly worried
2018-11-08 17:35
This is a troll forum duh... 😂
2018-11-08 17:37
#284
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Europe pawlosek888 
ahahhaha, any bad news for usa are good news for the world. usa deserves all the worst for their crimes
2018-11-08 17:23
oh lookie a completely ignorant retard here who doesnt even know shit at all because of usa you have valve, steam, csgo and therefore this website, all the good computers, graphics cards,cpus companies from usa. pc gaming wouldn't even be a thing without usa where all top gaming companies are american and all the technology able to run the marvelous graphics and engines made are american ? well thats just the gaming part. how much has organizations from us helps other countries? united nations retardo ? WHO retardo ? all the donation campaigns and big ass companies retardo ? the huge success of internet retardo ? all the social medias we use retardo ? so many inventions and scientists and advancements in humanity retardo ? this list will go just so long retardo. oh lol seeing whose talking ofc indonesian ching chong dongo chinko asian with 21:2 eye display ratio. thats why he cant see the whole world because his eyes cant even open to full length. also hows the increasing poverty rate in indonesia mr.retardo.pawlosek888?
2018-11-08 18:17
#303
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Europe pawlosek888 
actually South East Asia is the plave where technology is made. usa is a cancer and should be removed asap
2018-11-08 18:18
hahahahahahahahhahaha technology is made xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD this poor chinki dongo cant seem to open his eyes at all
2018-11-08 18:19
ur polish dont act like u care about their war crimes that are mostly against muslims and asians
2018-11-08 19:34
#335
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Europe pawlosek888 
we care cuz usa was doing war crimes in poland on poles and was/has been directly supporting our worst enemies
2018-11-08 20:25
Why didn't the good people with guns, prevent the evil person with the gun from killing so many? Or maybe the club, like all other clubs and places of worship should just have guards with weapons?
2018-11-08 17:28
Because in California you cannot carry a gun to defend yourself
2018-11-08 22:10
Shooting in state with strict gun laws, must need more gun laws Meanwhile states that practice the second ammendment don't get shot up
2018-11-08 18:02
Maybe because california has 40 million people compared to say, mississippi, which has 3 million. Moreover, the red states have much higher murder rates en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._sta..
2018-11-08 19:25
#334
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Portugal Atruemaster 
Which state has the most redneck white people out of the entire USA? I'm talking wife beating enforced on an institutional level by the very women who get beaten redneck level. Preferably beaten by their brothers who they also fuck.
2018-11-08 20:25
blacks inflate those rates
2018-11-08 21:37
+1
2018-11-08 22:09
Sad day for whole people in the world ;(
2018-11-08 19:36
and nobody talking about 4 dead in Czech Republic how sad is this world
2018-11-08 19:58
#326
Kane | 
Other UknowY 
It's not about the gun laws that your country is so fucked up. It's because of your egotistical way of living. You follow no essential values of a good society. Instead of demolishing the constitution you should work on self improvement and a better way of living with eachother. That would solve most of your inner country problems. But arrogant as you US americans are you won't do this because it would take some effort and self sacrifice.
2018-11-08 20:03
True
2018-11-08 21:37
#508
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United States stephcurry30 
but how?
2018-11-11 11:05
#509
Kane | 
Other UknowY 
1. Stop consuming so much violence. That is most likely the biggest reason so much violence is happening in the USA. If you get shown violence constantly and from a young age in TV, movies, music and other forms of media your subconscious mind will come to learn this as a normal state of affairs. Thus you are more likely to exert violence. Mix that with a frustration over specific things in your life and you have a realistic chance of becoming a criminal. There's a reason why the murder rate in the USA is the highest in the world (afaik). 2. Follow some of the examples of peaceful religions like Buddhism or some of the core values of Christianity like "love thy neighbor". Once you realize that all is one and one is all you'll get an entirely different way of seeing the world. Biological life is unavoidably finite and everything that remains of you once you're gone is what you did in your life to change the world. Do you want a better or worse version of the world for everyone? Answering this question reveals a lot about your character and your progress throughout life itself, even beyond the veil that is death. (I'm not a religious person btw.) 3. Try to think logically about all things in life and analyze things without prejudgment. It's not always possible but the more you try the more it will work. Most conscious desicions are made without analyzing them first and thus are often bad desicions.
2018-11-11 11:32
#332
SS | 
Europe Deja_GG_Vu 
these are obviously happening so that they can add gun control. you think it happens in the us 99.9% of the time out of chance? and no its not cause they got more guns lol its so that they can take them away from the one country that does.
2018-11-08 20:23
just another day in states
2018-11-08 21:31
ResidentSleeper.
2018-11-08 21:38
You're a fucking cunt for shoehorning trump into this
2018-11-08 21:39
I don't wanna be bad person, but who cares? USA country of mad mentally ill people and all of them have pass to weapons, what can go wrong?
2018-11-08 21:52
California has super strict gun control lmao. Shit doesn't work
2018-11-08 22:05
another one, you are hope less muricans...
2018-11-08 22:30
if u dont wanna get killed just dont go to school
2018-11-09 00:50
Another mass shooting planted by democrats to get idiots to vote them into office. It isn't hard to see that our government is literally an entire act. Its all about which party is willing to sacrifice the most lives to get people to join their cause.
2018-11-09 00:51
It must be tough being this autistic
2018-11-09 08:47
Imagine crying about gun laws in a state that banned guns. That's autistic.
2018-11-09 10:49
“Banned guns” OMEGAHYPERLUL
2018-11-09 21:33
Banned as in no one under 18-21 can get access to one legally. Unlike other states. California has tough gun laws it took my Uncle, a retired vet, 5 years to get his gun license and a gun
2018-11-09 21:41
Yeah gun laws in other states really need to look more like california’s.
2018-11-09 22:58
#411
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Portugal Atruemaster 
You think this kind of stuff doesnt happen?
2018-11-09 16:12
#384
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Denmark Noevell 
There is no fix for this, only a reset.
2018-11-09 00:56
#390
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United States CousinBilly 
Wow. Crazy isn't it? A shooting happened with a weapon not even legal in the state of California! But lets ban guns right???
2018-11-09 06:21
free gun needs to be provided for every citizen when they reach age 4 (kevlar and helmet are optional for additional payment)
2018-11-09 17:13
Even if libtards do force the gun protection laws there still has to be time for the laws to take action and also just worship Ben Shapiro because like hes my friends dad
2018-11-09 06:45
his k/d is 11 lmao
2018-11-09 07:48
#398
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Poland Feym 
You're retarded tho. Look up statistics from states that dont allow guns. The number stays the fucking same. Do you really think that school shooters or thugs get their guns with permission? If they want a gun they will find a way to get it
2018-11-09 09:01
#401
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Lithuania PostDavie 
Youre right but his american brain cant process logic
2018-11-09 14:05
California have the most strict gun laws in the entire nation, and it couldn't stop the shooting from happening. so why again do we need more gun laws if it can't stop shootings from happening anyway
2018-11-09 16:11
#482
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United States f00bar 
+1 OP is ridiculous
2018-11-09 23:20
#410
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Portugal Atruemaster 
Wish I could buy guns here
2018-11-09 16:11
#422
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Estonia teremartin 
freedom law
2018-11-09 16:51
hard to know whats true or not in american media these days. Hopefully your government finds a way to stop these random acts of terrorism without turning into a police state
2018-11-09 16:53
meanwhile the white house fakes videos that were live streamed before gigalul.
2018-11-09 17:10
as if gun regulation would work
2018-11-09 17:11
#434
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Australia weapon_ 
mmmmmmmmm.. its a everyday thing now.. americas out of control..
2018-11-09 17:12
easy open frags, easy k.d.
2018-11-09 17:16
#445
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Belarus diehartz 
Nuke the whole humanity so there are no more mindfucked mental faggots, and people
2018-11-09 17:24
+1
2018-11-09 17:58
America is just all over grazy people,school shootings,police shooting just normal peoples and another shit things. America is not so safe place to live, go and move to finland.
2018-11-09 17:55
Nt
2018-11-10 00:11
#531
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Myanmar xdcc 
do you really want them to come to finland?
2018-11-12 03:50
gun regulation would be nice, but then again - what would be differnet? so many hundreds of millions guns out there anyways
2018-11-09 18:01
yeah because its trumps fault that americans are fucking retarded and go shoot up some public places if they are bored
2018-11-09 22:59
#477
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Germany RobiDable 
Typical day in the USA, come back when you have some actually news
2018-11-09 23:03
#481
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United States f00bar 
highest amount of gun control in the union state of california btw. How's that working out?
2018-11-09 23:20
you are right, it must be just a cultural thing, I guess americans just love to shoot some humans xDDD.
2018-11-10 00:11
312 days into the year and 307 shootings youtube.com/watch?v=hSlb1ezRqfA almost. honestly don't even feel sorry for Americans anymore, your government and people does it to itself. No one else to blame. How fucked up of a country do you have to be to let shootings happen almost every day (bro) and do nothing about it??? Kids are bringing guns into school and nothing is really being done, just blows my mind that an entire country and it's system can be so braindead.
2018-11-09 23:23
highest control in the states btw
2018-11-10 00:11
The politicians control us. Feel bad for citizens that support banning guns, but get their voices silenced. Don’t feel bad for people who vote to let it continue.
2018-11-10 19:11
world is fucked up ='(
2018-11-10 00:13
As per usual retards like skycuckguilfaggot make it out a rep vs dems issue when the USA has had problems with guns for years before Trump and its obviously big Corp interests protecting guns and money controlling what laws are passed.
2018-11-10 20:36
Your argument would’ve been relevant until you called me a cuck, you incel 😂😂
2018-11-10 20:50
i feel insulted get a rope and end it retard also enjoy shootings cuz you care more about voting for either of the shitty options instead of going for independent
2018-11-10 22:31
Lmao a vote for independent is a wasted vote, because they have absolutely no chance of winning, sadly. I do wish we had more than 2 parties though, because they are so extremely different
2018-11-10 22:37
One person had an opinion that USA's gun control is impossible to fix, so only hope is to teach the next generation that guns isnt the answer to everything. Like the thing is, guns are a thing in your culture and thats a scary thing. You wont have a second thought that someone owns a gun here in EU. Sadly, i think this will continue no matter what. Expect another mass shoothing in like 1-3 months unless something truly changes
2018-11-11 21:55
like there werent school shootings under obama
2018-11-11 21:57
A few people were killed in a shooting at a bar.... And you make this post. God you kids should eat more tide pods.
2018-11-11 22:14
just USA things
2018-11-11 23:23
expected
2018-11-12 02:17
shooting will continue for sure. gun law change is needed. (every who want hold gun at daily basics, need to go to psychotest. It is basics in other countries and it works, and can fix this foking crazy shooting)
2018-11-12 02:37
Bar shooting? Good riddance, the world needs less drunkards
2018-11-12 03:27
#530
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Sweden meistr0 
WTF? First the fucking GIANT fire and then a shooting???????????????? Wake up USA, wtf.
2018-11-12 03:28
#533
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Australia weapon_ 
whats new? USA is being over-run and they are letting the country run its self.. theres no leader..
2018-11-12 06:44
#535
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United States BioLine 
its not like this is trumps fault these shooting have been going on even before Obama was in office, what do you want him to do, tell the shooters they are meanies and should stop doing these things lmao
2018-11-12 07:04
The entire legislative branch is republican controlled, so there could easily be some legislation passed about gun control. That is, if republicans didn’t love their 2nd amendment so much. I guess the murders will continue then :D
2018-11-12 22:00
#540
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United States BioLine 
why ban guns, criminals will still get guns and do bad things, they don't mind doing illegal things in order top get the guns hence why they called criminals lmao
2018-11-12 23:56
If guns are illegal it will be much, much harder to get guns. Most mass/school shooters buy their guns legally.
2018-11-13 07:00
#538
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Faroe Islands memento_1 
as trump can do anything about that. he is just a fucking president. you watched too many movies.
2018-11-12 14:22
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