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is 'chingchong' racist?
African Union kane_1_major_s1mple_0_major 
we currently have a drama in dota 2 community where a pro player typed 'gl chingchong' in an official match and then the whole chinese community went batshit crazy for that. do u think the word 'chingchong' is racist or not?
2018-11-08 22:09
#1
Sweden hoey 
yes
2018-11-08 22:10
#133
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Myanmar Lemo2K 
yes, white people saying chinchong to asian people is like saying n word to black people
2018-11-08 23:13
sweden yes x2
2018-11-08 23:20
Well i mean he's not wrong. I think both aren't racist so saying ching chong is just as racist.
2018-11-09 13:30
#359
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Sweden Virr 
or we have to stop giving those words so much f**cking power :P this time thoe its actualy chinese people (people who have the right to be offended if anyone) not white feminist or just cucks who say everything is offensive when theyr shouldnt even be able to feel its offensive eksdee
2018-11-09 16:48
tbh as an black guy born in turkey I don't have a problem when someone calls me nigger (as long as he is not insulting me with it ofc) I use it more like a form of saying 'buddy' than an actual insult
2018-11-09 00:03
I know you're probably trolling but if not then learn some fucking history, jheez
2018-11-09 00:05
#215
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Myanmar Lemo2K 
wtf you white people has no respect to Asian people and then using history as excuses
2018-11-09 01:05
what? you claimed that saying chingchong is equivalent to saying the n-word even tho saying chingchong is mostly mocking a language and the n-word has much more history behind it while both are wrong they aren't equivalent
2018-11-09 01:08
#219
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Myanmar Lemo2K 
both is mocking words and wrong but you don't really care about saying chingchong to Asian people cuz we're weak, friendly or won't fight?
2018-11-09 01:11
ok so you're trolling or your reading comprehension is complete trash have a nice day
2018-11-09 01:12
#259
ZywOo | 
France ZywHere 
You said his reading comprehension is trash because he is asian ?! Reported
2018-11-09 09:45
#332
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United States VRGcarsonqi 
+1
2018-11-09 13:39
#362
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Sweden Virr 
+1 hes scared of asians bro he has to do it
2018-11-09 16:52
You live in a white country (Sweden) yet you trash talks whites LMAO
2018-11-09 06:53
#256
flusha | 
Lithuania fbhx 
since when sweden is white country?
2018-11-09 09:40
#261
NEO | 
Slovakia S1W0 
Sweden ain't White anymore with feminist government
2018-11-09 09:48
#371
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Myanmar almighty_so 
Sweden White Pick one
2018-11-10 03:00
> be asian living in Sweden > blame whites for no respect for asian people pathetic
2018-11-09 10:03
#271
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Myanmar Lemo2K 
I don't mean everyone bro
2018-11-09 10:20
#260
NEO | 
Slovakia S1W0 
Chingchong doesn't even mean anything
2018-11-09 09:47
That's the point. It's making a mockery of their language.
2018-11-11 22:17
imagine u go to some country and the people say "bababubuhuhuhu" on u when u're talking with ur native language, then whenever they see u they do that again. it's really offensive
2018-11-11 22:23
I never said it wasn't offensive. I was simply stating that the words don't mean anything if you were trying to define them.
2018-11-11 23:17
yeah i know, i replied to u so the guy before u would see it and learn to respect
2018-11-11 23:34
Ah ok, gotcha.
2018-11-12 00:35
cringe, chingchong
2018-11-09 11:04
#2
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Poland misioneos 
noooo xD
2018-11-08 22:10
#131
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Myanmar almighty_so 
It is Poorlak isn’t ?
2018-11-08 23:12
#136
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Poland Obolenski 
no, it's meme oke?
2018-11-08 23:13
#355
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Poland misioneos 
poorlack cant be racist because its about nationality not race, rekt bitch
2018-11-09 15:48
#377
kennyS | 
Poland kamuk 
u can call me poorlack anytime u want chingchong
2018-11-10 13:23
reported
2018-11-08 22:11
lmao
2018-11-09 07:49
IDK but seems like way to make fun of someone and their language so maby they would feel it is disrespectful and not accepted
2018-11-08 22:13
nt chingchong
2018-11-08 22:11
I don't care xd
2018-11-08 22:12
#32
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Germany PurpleSlimer 
then why did you reply
2018-11-08 22:29
I don't care if he tries to insult me, matter however is pretty interesting
2018-11-08 22:30
chinese always get triggered LMAO they are more butthurt than brazilians
2018-11-08 22:11
#22
Sadokist | 
Myanmar xdcc 
taiwan #1 jk if china takes over the world china #1. dont jail me
2018-11-08 22:22
#43
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Lithuania PostDavie 
giv back flag
2018-11-08 22:33
#44
Sadokist | 
Myanmar xdcc 
no this is upgraded with freedom and eagles
2018-11-08 22:34
I no see eagle wtf
2018-11-12 04:26
#421
Sadokist | 
Myanmar xdcc 
Because no freedom.
2018-11-12 04:51
U no have eagle
2018-11-12 04:55
#423
Sadokist | 
Myanmar xdcc 
Why you asking about my eagle? Try to steal?
2018-11-12 04:57
No you liar u no have eagle
2018-11-12 04:58
#8
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Czech Republic Pee_Tea 
why would it be?
2018-11-08 22:12
isn't it just a chinese word or something? Why would it be racist
2018-11-08 22:12
#14
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United States PsychoLogical 
nah its not, it originated from westerners mocking the chinese language
2018-11-08 22:13
Hmm.. thoughts it's a chinese name , tbh
2018-11-08 22:38
WOW! Sensitive pussies. CIS community usually don't react negatively to "cyka blyat" and this: youtube.com/watch?v=4jxRRgqRqas
2018-11-08 22:12
#20
Sadokist | 
Myanmar xdcc 
shat ap gopnik cyka blyat must be the most painful since its not even correct xD
2018-11-08 22:21
1:00 , best actor ever. Deserve novel award
2018-11-08 22:40
That's cuz the CIS community use that specific term the most.
2018-11-11 13:14
no, but chink is. Have a nice day!
2018-11-08 22:12
#12
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United States PsychoLogical 
yes it is, but if it's for a soft joke then it's cool cause we asians have a sense of humor. But if its for an insult then yes it's offensive cause well the insult comes from people mocking the chinese language.
2018-11-08 22:12
#132
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
"we asians" nt nibba. I bet you can't tell the difference between rice and burger.
2018-11-08 23:12
#13
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Croatia feelsbadmane 
Svenskeren LoL pro couldnt play in world championship group stage 2-3 years ago because he had an account named chingchong in taiwan server,he got suspended
2018-11-08 22:13
wtf rito sjw
2018-11-09 06:54
#15
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World ///fuck 
Yes.
2018-11-08 22:13
No.
2018-11-09 06:54
#16
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Norway rogueplayer 
Not inherently racist in itself, but it assumes some negative connotations with it thus creating a tension because essentialy the comment suggests a mockery of their language and culture, i.e. a bad joke turned into a racist interpretation
2018-11-08 22:16
#23
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United States PsychoLogical 
the term came from westerners in the past to mock the chinese language namely those of Cantonese origin coming into countries like USA, Canada, and Australia but mainly western USA.
2018-11-08 22:23
i thought it's because of some Chinese surnames Chong and Ching
2018-11-09 10:16
Nah its because of how chinese sounds like to non speakers.
2018-11-09 11:51
yes its racist, but after skem apologized and was fined, chinese should've accepted the apology and move on not pour gasoline in the fire so to speak
2018-11-08 22:17
#25
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United States PsychoLogical 
I think the problem is that the chinese face alot of racism in their side in dota2 cause apparently mainly Filipinos there say the term alot.
2018-11-08 22:25
i mean chinese themselves are quite racist as well, so i think its hypocritical of them to stand on the moral high ground
2018-11-08 22:37
#65
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United States PsychoLogical 
fair point ofc, as an asian myself, I can easily just see this as an accident and not intentionally, if it was on purpose then i would have a problem but for the record most don't actually mean it.
2018-11-08 22:38
like yeah what he said was dumb and racist, he apologized and got punished - what else do they want, burn him on a stake?
2018-11-08 23:14
who knows, I just find this hypocritical and why this shows the dota2 community is cancer and needs to burn cause of the amount of stupidity coming from the game.
2018-11-08 23:15
i find this drama is damn useless, like its done - just focus on other stuff that is more related to the game already
2018-11-08 23:20
the incident also just became a dumb meme with the chinese city of Chongqing being the victim of it unfortunately which further shows how retarded the dota2 community is. if you're wondering why, Q in chinese is literally the "Ch" sound in english.
2018-11-08 23:24
i actually looked at the city after it was annoucement and the railway looked really cool, but i can already see the jokes when the lan happens
2018-11-08 23:26
Dude, listen, tbh i think the whole thing is becoming complex, it actually begin with 'feelings of being offended', which is understandable, but to push this wave too hard-i don't view it that simple. Some fags behind the screens are trying to make this argument more serious(over its own level). They are kidnapping consensus online, holding the mighty flag of patriotism in order to make the result the way they want, or to be more disgusting, just for fun or kill dissenting opinions.
2018-11-09 10:14
Besides, I've seen thousands of viewpoints online (CN forums), there are true patriots, hatemongers, biased,etc. Too much for the already chaotic comunity, I quit.
2018-11-09 10:20
yes generalize a whole race and call them all racist. You saying the word hypocritical is the candle on the cake.
2018-11-08 22:47
i said chinese, not all chinese also a lot of them are hypocritical, because they act like they are never racist, even though a decent amount of them are (especially to south east asians and africans) - i never claimed europe or western world is perfect in that regard
2018-11-08 23:13
#150
JewCeps | 
Japan @0x0 
have you ever been to china? most chinese hate japanese ive literally been banned/kicked from chinese servers just for being japanese with the message "Riben guizi" (in chinese ofc but hltv doesnt let me type it" 75% of chinese view japan negatively sure not every chinese is racist but most are
2018-11-08 23:17
thats just sad.
2018-11-08 23:23
#175
JewCeps | 
Japan @0x0 
i dont really care i would be lying if i said i have nothing against the chinese im just making a point that most chinese are racist and his statement was pretty fair
2018-11-08 23:31
Im aware of that, relax.
2018-11-08 23:31
Relax. Just take it as the dark heritage of war and keep it in mind.
2018-11-09 10:23
#274
JewCeps | 
Japan @0x0 
brainwashed ccp drone
2018-11-09 10:30
If you react like that I dont wanna give another fuck to ur point. I said relax. Yeah, ur born INNOCENT. Ur countrymen are keep yelling 'no war', 'no war' and u give me this. DO U REALLY understand my point?
2018-11-09 10:39
#281
JewCeps | 
Japan @0x0 
why would i care what point a brainwashed person has to say mao did nothing wrong never forget the 300,000 dead at nanjing chang kai shek evil taiwan not real tibet never existed manchuko not real uighurs deserved it senkaku is china
2018-11-09 10:46
loooool as u like. ur pushing all those statements to extreme and said that I'm brainwashed. Keep on performing your drama. ccp always tell people half-truths, but they nearly never lies. We've got 1.4 billion pair of eyes but sadly u don't own a single brain.
2018-11-09 11:03
#298
JewCeps | 
Japan @0x0 
yes ccp never tell lies no uigurs being killed all lies
2018-11-09 11:39
yes killed and reported by news. With blades or bombs in hand, ready to kill more innocent civilians. I'd rather those 72-virgin-thirsty Wahabi heretics die out. Ready for another lesson?
2018-11-09 11:56
Go on. I'll just swipe ur shit off
2018-11-09 11:51
#308
JewCeps | 
Japan @0x0 
yep brain washed hahahaa
2018-11-09 12:04
arguments exhausted already?keep defining others out of shit. I'm out.
2018-11-09 12:09
#18
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United States PsychoLogical 
What I find funny is that this came from some Filipino idiot xD, to me this is ironic cause Filipinos get just as much racism and bashing in dota2 as well kek
2018-11-08 22:18
#42
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United States PsychoLogical 
and yes it is racist but if you say the other C word, then people will really go batshit.
2018-11-08 22:33
#304
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Philippines s3xccurate_ 
Some of us just laughs it out
2018-11-09 11:58
ping pong
2018-11-08 22:17
#114
AMD | 
Hungary teguP 
tic toc and boom
2018-11-08 22:59
dis iz naut Chineze
2018-11-09 12:10
#313
AMD | 
Hungary teguP 
wdym
2018-11-09 12:13
This is not Chinese bro
2018-11-09 12:15
#316
AMD | 
Hungary teguP 
when did i claim that it is?
2018-11-09 12:15
At first I'm just trolling but u didn't get the point,so...lul
2018-11-09 12:34
#318
AMD | 
Hungary teguP 
what was the point then?
2018-11-09 12:35
don't mention it
2018-11-09 12:39
#320
AMD | 
Hungary teguP 
wdym
2018-11-09 12:39
u beat me already
2018-11-09 12:41
#323
AMD | 
Hungary teguP 
can you tell me about things i should look out for when I visit shanghai?
2018-11-09 12:42
later. maybe one hour and I'll be free
2018-11-09 12:56
#333
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World word_exe 
Free now? That's 1 hour.
2018-11-09 13:56
free now. Dont worry
2018-11-09 13:58
#335
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World word_exe 
Thanks, just checking :-)
2018-11-09 13:59
bro? free now ?
2018-11-09 14:09
#341
AMD | 
Hungary teguP 
yeah, just came back too
2018-11-09 14:11
1.thiefs /swindlers around the railway stations(basic) 2.bring thick clothes after october 3.Some consumption place may be expensive 4.Do not go to places that are too crowded(try ask the hotel attendants)
2018-11-09 14:23
Addition: always buy tickets in advance if ur travelling in China during the holiday
2018-11-09 14:26
#345
AMD | 
Hungary teguP 
Thank you, i will spend a spring semester there at Tongji uni. Are people there alright with foreigners? Which places do you recommend me to visit? My friend plans to join me for a week there.
2018-11-09 14:30
Airight. Shanghai is a very international city and u needn't worry about people's attitude, especially in schools. Be friendly and everything 'll be ok. For the attractions, The Oriental Pearl/JinMao Mansion are worth visiting(if u like skyscrapers). Also u shouldn't miss Yu Garden(ancint CN architecture, Nanjing Road(shopping), Chenghuang Temple(night view& snacks) , The bund(night view),etc. find urself a tourguide or a close classmate, you 'll get more info.
2018-11-09 14:46
#348
AMD | 
Hungary teguP 
Thanks for the tips, appreciated. i will look them up, are there some nice places that are not crowded? I thought that the park sounds nice, so I googled it and one of the first picture is some sort of bridge full of people, I would like to avoid that as much as possible when we will go sight seeing lol also what's the best way to visit the great wall? Train? I'm looking for some affordable mean of transportation, I'm not that rich lol.
2018-11-09 15:14
see#353
2018-11-09 16:01
To avoid the crowd, U'd better ask ur teacher/Chinese classmates cuz I'm not a Shanghai native, (I may mislead you). But in terms of transportation to the Great Wall(in Beijing), just take the airplane for 450 ¥(Bullet trains need 550¥,ordinary trains are too uncomfortable)
2018-11-09 15:40
#364
AMD | 
Hungary teguP 
I see, thanks! I'm used to higher prices when it comes to planes lol I might return by bullet train to experience both things though hahaha
2018-11-09 19:18
ur welcome
2018-11-10 03:43
no, only blacks, browns and sissy liberal whites are sensitive
2018-11-08 22:21
ching chongs most racist people anywAY so who cares
2018-11-08 22:24
+1 Racism is accepted in Asia. Look at Hollywood movies. They're full of black people and Asian people because "we need diversity" but Asian movies have only Asian actors.
2018-11-09 06:57
the only asians allowed in hollywood are the females so u're only partially right
2018-11-09 06:59
So Jet Li, Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan are all women? That's something new!
2018-11-09 11:20
bruce lee is one of a kind, jackie only gets kungfu movies, and jet li is much rarer in hollywood movies and if he's in one he plays the same type as jackie. there are much better looking and better asian male actors but they never get the chance cuz asian males are only allowed to play the stereotype roles
2018-11-09 12:41
no, its because like 20% of usa are blacks and asians, not like in asia where 98% are asians
2018-11-09 14:09
It's racist, but it's not that offensive. I guarantee you any asian living in the US has heard way worse.
2018-11-08 22:25
#30
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United States PsychoLogical 
yea it's racist and can be as offensive as one other word which is the equal to the N word here, although most would just call us dog eaters or say or do something related to our eyes lmao. But eh alot of asian americans here have a good sense of humor so it's fine as long as it isn't crossing the line. Although racism towards asians don't really seem to show up alot anymore here in the US as a majority of racism here is directed towards blacks or latinos but i may be ignorant or wrong.
2018-11-08 22:32
#27
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Ireland lander1337 
no
2018-11-08 22:26
no it is not
2018-11-08 22:29
#35
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Brazil Seleskva 
no
2018-11-08 22:32
#37
shroud | 
United States HowToK 
i mean its a derogatory statement mocking the chinese language so.. if its used to mock someone for being chinese, then yeah. if its not meant to do so, then it depends on the person. if they find it offensive, apologize (without being a sarcastic ass) and move on. it's like calling a black person a nigger basically, which i dont think anyone outside the US really cares about tbh lol
2018-11-08 22:32
+1 but cya in 10 years
2018-11-08 22:33
enjoy deleted comment, cuz we in 21th are butthurt about everything you cant say "n word"
2018-11-08 22:38
#81
shroud | 
United States HowToK 
honestly i dont think we really should be censoring these words because calling it the n word still puts the word right into our minds, which makes no difference than simply saying the word and you're really just running away from the core of the issue. however, since i am currently on hltv, i will abide by their rules. so mods, if you have an issue with it, just lmk and i can edit it out
2018-11-08 22:45
they will remove your comments and give u ban, i hate this censorship
2018-11-08 22:46
#97
shroud | 
United States HowToK 
well if it happens then it happens i guess
2018-11-08 22:49
hltv is a company, they have every right to do what they think is appropriate. If they don't want certain things in the comments sections then we have to abide by that because in the end it's their website and service that we're choosing to use.
2018-11-08 22:59
#186
JewCeps | 
Japan @0x0 
you can say nigger in context the rule is not to insult others not to not use no no words
2018-11-08 23:41
Calling someone the n-word is racist everywhere, not just the US. However, some old people in Europe still use the term negro (e.g. Neger in German), which is also racist but not quite as bad as the n word in the US. Like 20-30 years ago it was still quite common but now it's seen as more racist but also weirdly outdated.
2018-11-08 23:08
calling a black person the n word is racist? so almost every black person is racist nowadays
2018-11-09 01:54
no
2018-11-08 22:33
#45
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United States PsychoLogical 
name checks out lmao
2018-11-08 22:34
nt ching chong
2018-11-08 22:34
#48
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United States PsychoLogical 
nt swedistan
2018-11-08 22:35
nt school shooter
2018-11-08 22:35
#51
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United States PsychoLogical 
nt feminist cuck
2018-11-08 22:35
nt hillary voter
2018-11-08 22:35
#55
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United States PsychoLogical 
nt rapefugee
2018-11-08 22:36
nt mexican immigrant
2018-11-08 22:36
#66
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United States PsychoLogical 
nt gayboy soyboy.
2018-11-08 22:39
nt gay feminist
2018-11-08 22:39
#230
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Uruguay maria_diaz 
retard_from_sweden wins
2018-11-09 01:44
#46
smooya | 
United Kingdom trtr098 
The word itself is not intrinsically harmful, just like n*gger but became offensive the way people use it.
2018-11-08 22:34
#89
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United States PsychoLogical 
the term came from westerners mocking the chinese language from chinese speakers mainly cantonese to be exact coming to western countries like USA, Canada, and Australia but mainly Western USA. If it was the other C word then it would be extremely offensive but the term used is usually used for banter so its fine honestly. People mostly just use the other C word nowadays if they're being racist towards asians. I've heard the term myself plenty of times but nearly all of them werent serious.
2018-11-08 22:47
#53
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Bulgaria squezzi 
Not racist if you say #NoRacism
2018-11-08 22:36
#231
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Uruguay maria_diaz 
loool
2018-11-09 01:44
china isn't a race, so no.
2018-11-08 22:36
#57
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United States PsychoLogical 
you just proved that you're an idiot lmao
2018-11-08 22:36
would you care to elaborate?
2018-11-08 22:37
#60
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Canada thelegend27 
i like it better than slit eyed gook (which i have been called once i think)
2018-11-08 22:37
#72
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United States PsychoLogical 
wtf I've never heard anyone say something like that xD. I've only heard dog eater or chink xd literally. Although most of it was banter/not serious so it was fine xd.
2018-11-08 22:41
#194
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Canada thelegend27 
yeah it was somewhere ghetto. long story short you would never hear anyone outside of those areas say something like that
2018-11-09 00:03
A ghetto, forgot those areas still existed kek.
2018-11-09 00:06
chingchong like a parody of chinese language cykablyat/ nahuy/ pizdec/ izi katka like a parody of rus language so gl stupid chingchongers, cry more
2018-11-08 22:37
Cyka blyat is a meme ching chong is an insult This is why cis is stupid and should not be considered humans
2018-11-08 22:45
wtf... br talking about.... Brazilians not people Just couple of monkeys, hahah que ota motherfucker
2018-11-08 22:50
See again proving my point Monkey = insult Ching chong = insult Cyka blyat = meme Que ota = meme
2018-11-08 22:54
the difference is 'cyka blyat' are real words, but there's no actual 'chingchong' in chinese so when u say it it's just a mockery to the language. some people with low iq can't tell the difference xd
2018-11-08 22:57
#119
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Finland siloquez 
So you can decide what is racist and what is a meme? Just Russians have sense of humor while ya'll don't.
2018-11-08 23:02
Use your fucking brain Ching chong is making fun of chinese language Cyka blyat is just a swear
2018-11-08 23:06
#124
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Finland siloquez 
Just read a news article that said F1 drivers needed to use disguises to avoid getting kidnapped in Brazil Sao Paolo. Nice country.
2018-11-08 23:07
No need to read articles to know that finnish people have 50 iq plenty have demonstrated that already
2018-11-08 23:10
#129
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Finland siloquez 
Oki doki.
2018-11-08 23:11
brainstats.com/average-iq-by-country.htm.. Can't even find Brazil on the list, you must be hella bright! =D
2018-11-09 11:27
Sounds like you can't stick to the original argument. Pretty weak.
2018-11-08 23:26
#174
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Finland siloquez 
He is just talking in circles, no idea to proceed in the same shit.
2018-11-08 23:30
So you pull a red herring because you have a low ego? No point in your shit if you think there's no point in his shit. You're just looking for beef, and as stated originally; pretty weak.
2018-11-09 00:06
#254
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Finland siloquez 
I'm not looking for anything, I expressed my feeling about this. I think A he thinks B, there's no way any of us will change our opinion about anything. I don't think ching chong is more racist or anything than screaming cyka blyat. He won't change his mind, neither will I.
2018-11-09 07:53
#289
s1mple | 
China K1ana 
And many big Esports clubs in China and the official agent company PerfectWorld have official statements on Weibo(similar to twitter) to require Valve punish the two players who said this words. Obviously it is not a joke or meme like cykablayt and queota. And these is some historic reason. Maybe you don't know, but Chinese know
2018-11-09 11:08
This has been expressed many times enough, a majority of the chinese people in my experience are racists or closet racists themselves - towards blacks for example.. I've seen this shit happen so much, they're abroad in different countries and act like they own the place and everyone else is dogshit in comparison. I don't think fucking ching chong no matter the connotations is even remotely enough racist to create this fuss. If you choose to get butthurt over everything ever said, it's your fucking loss. Go cry under a rock.
2018-11-09 11:31
#310
s1mple | 
China K1ana 
1.I admit that many Chinese are not well-educated and racist. But no Chinese esports players or other public persons dare to say any racist things in public. A ramdon average person does things in private is much different from a public person does things in public(If esports players are public persons). 2.As I say, once a LOL player had been banned by roit for saying this words. And big esports clubs in China and the official DOTA2&CSGO Chinese agent company PerfectWorld have official statements about this. It is the first time this happens. It do have racist meaning(You don't know is not equal to it dosen't exist), that is why I'm explaining this here. And I am explaining ,not to argue with someone else.
2018-11-09 12:12
chingchong is like saying finnish is gibberish for retards. I can't percieve it anything but ignorant. There is no way I would take offense on that and it's unfathomable to me how someone can. Especially when we're talking about similar people within a region with pretty much only cultural differences. I can't even find a fitting stupid enough comparison..
2018-11-11 10:52
#417
s1mple | 
China K1ana 
Yes you can say it is caused by culture difference, and I believe that you don't take offense on that. You are from Finland, but the DOTA2 pro players who said Cword in games are actually Asians. Asians all know what the word means. At least I am sure that people from SEA said this is to insulting(cuz this always happens in pug games, though no one will give a fuck about normal persons talking shit). The point is, if this word is racist is not defined by you boy, that's why I typed this to explain to you. If this word was not racist, that LOL player who said this would not get a ban, and the DOTA2 player who said this would not get fined by his club. Notail(a great dota2 player from Denmark) , reso1ution(a player from Ukraine )and some other Dota2 players also commented this as a racial discrimination incident. And now Valve has make an official statement about this) You said it's unfathomable to you, maybe that is what you have to learn... I believe you are kind and not racist. You can hold your point of view, but on this point you don't know enough...
2018-11-12 04:32
Still, what I am saying is that you can get butthurt for someone calling you a banana. Does that make you a banana? Do you NEED to get offended for it? No. It is YOUR DECISION to get offended by that gibberish. I am trying to say that people should stop being such pussies and cry about everything. Sometimes u can just say: Hey, maybe he was joking or he's a idiot. Just don't mind him and continue. He is probably as chingchong as the next guy anyhow (remember, to me chingchong means nothing, I don't mean to offend) since why wouldn't it apply to other asians as much? To me at least most asian languages sound at bare minimum similar - tho I don't claim to know them really well. And on top of all this, I can't tell where most asians are from just looking at them, I can say they're probably asians but for me it is hard to pinpoint (And I figure it's same for most people that aren't asians at least).. Thus you should be unified and not fighting each other, IMHO you've got more in common then not.
2018-11-12 19:35
#430
s1mple | 
China K1ana 
What did you say??? The question is " is c word racist", so I am answering it and explain. I am just exlaining why it is racist , not if Chinese would get hurt or angry with it. You do not get the point all the way. Get butthurt? Not, but at least a public person who did this should get punished and we need Valve's statements to prevent this happen again in Esports. We are not that childish to get angry or hurt by someone‘s words. (ofc I am not sure about everyone in Chinese DOTA community) And you said "trying to say people should stop being pussies and cry about everything". I don't know how you can equal racist incident to "everything". If someone say n-word to black publicly , will you say that?? You just emphasize "feelings" are decided by people themselves but that's not the point. The point is that it is racist so should be prevent in esports.
2018-11-14 10:37
#431
s1mple | 
China K1ana 
I have got your meaning and respect your thoughts. If you can't get my points it's OK
2018-11-14 10:44
Mk see you went from sensible to fucking ignorant cunt. You're not even Asian; you're from fucking Finnland you dumbshit. Shut your mouth. Perhaps the Chinese are racist towards everyone else because they realize it's not acceptable to say stupid shit like this to any race, yet you justify it "Because I think it's like that so therefore it is". Textbook ignorance. P.S: You clearly do not understand racism with your dead brain apparently, because any form of a mockery of language that a race uses? Yeah, that's called racism. Read a fucking book. E: Since you've proven you're inept and ignorant af, I'm not even going to bother reading the dumb shit you have to post back because you like justifying annoying racist garbage LMFAO. Pathetic waste of oxygen you are.
2018-11-10 02:00
What a retarded twat you are yourself talking about someones ignorance while not even considering that you might be the one who is misinterpreting and ignorant here. You clearly don't have a brain yourself if you're saying that I said it's NOT racist, I said it is NOT RACIST ENOUGH (as it isn't something that heavily slanders you) to create a fuss this big. But since you've got a lacking understanding of the english fucking language you went apeshit crazy. Well played. My points stand, I've seen chinese people act in such spite that it's in no way comparable to the nothing-meaning word ching chong. Getting butthurt over such thing is ridiculous. I am not a racist, I've lived in Africa for several years and exactly there is where I saw the true nature of the chinese folk and I've also got my own brain to understand when someone is insulting me or not and how much value I give to it and how I respond.
2018-11-10 14:14
Congrats dumbass. Can't even read the bottom part. Go back to school retard.
2018-11-11 06:49
Hahaha, I chose to ignore that bullshit as I knew your pathetic ass is gonna read it anyhow - and look what happened. God damn, expected you to be stupid but not THIS stupid.
2018-11-11 10:45
#284
s1mple | 
China K1ana 
Russians maybe use cykablyat in real life or in game. That is a real sentence in Russian. You can see Russian streamers or Youtubers use these words for entertainment. It is equal to "cao ni ma" in Chinese(same meaning as cykablyat). If you say caonima meme to Chinese, no one will feel getting offended. But ching*****is not a real word in Chinese and Chinese never use this words in any situation for any reason. it is generally considered as a completely offended word in China. And once a Korea LOL player say this in game and get punished by Roit, but valve don't have rules about this.
2018-11-09 10:57
yes, enjoy ban
2018-11-08 22:40
#73
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Argentina roulettesoad 
ofc it's. i got banned like 1 week here for saying that to wardell xD
2018-11-08 22:41
#76
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Hungary Bonte 
Of course. But it's mainly up to the race offended to decide
2018-11-08 22:42
#95
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United States PsychoLogical 
if you mean it then it's offensive but if not or it accidentally slipped and that you genuinely didn't mean it then its cool, no harm done.
2018-11-08 22:49
#82
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United States IFisico 
Yes, obviously.
2018-11-08 22:46
#84
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Europe tweekzter 
bbc is racist too, and yet a tv network is called like that
2018-11-08 22:45
2018-11-08 22:47
on hltv no, irl yes
2018-11-08 22:47
#100
smooya | 
United Kingdom Button 
Yes, very... but what I don't get is why Chinese people get so ass mad about it because they're the most racist people on Earth, constantly shitting on others around the SEA region. Not saying 2 wrongs make a right just practice what you preach.
2018-11-08 22:53
+999
2018-11-08 22:53
#153
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
how do you tell they're racist if you don't know their language?
2018-11-08 23:18
#196
smooya | 
United Kingdom Button 
200 iq
2018-11-09 00:03
+1 china,singapore,india and middle east are the most racists people in the world. if you are an indian or a black guy in china R.I.P(not rip but they don't respect as white people speaking from seeing live stuff)
2018-11-09 12:52
Indians are not racist towards other countries.
2018-11-11 10:54
you sure about that because I've been living with them for 5 years. i can't just say it out of nowhere, in fact they are racist just between each others(regions and skin tone), and the indians from dubai hates all the other indians. like how to say there is a lot of groups here and some of them are very open to everyone like the ones that lives in uae, but some of them just keeps insulting other foreigners behind their back etc..(but this one yeah like you said they just hate others so its not kinda "racist"), but still like i said they are racists just between themselves so imagine whats their view on foreigners. but i agree with them in one thing and all SEA everyone hates Tamils.
2018-11-11 15:42
xD nice point. Many of us are so mad because the there are many nationalist due to the education. We are taught that chinese people are oppressed by foreigners throughout last century, and it did happened. And there are maybe other factors, it is really complicated.
2018-11-12 05:37
GL MingLUL IS BETTER
2018-11-08 22:53
if i call a chineese man or any asian i find "jap" hey japa, or hey jap. is that racist?? or if i say that japs koreans and chinese all look alike. am i being racist?
2018-11-08 22:54
if yes. then brazilians are screwd. fer even said in an interview "stewie is a crazy japa"
2018-11-08 22:55
we actually dont give a shit about race. not that much
2018-11-08 22:55
#109
smooya | 
United Kingdom Button 
No because all races look alike. How many times I've watched a movie and I've been like "oh shit is that the white dude from that one movie" and turns out it wasn't and I'll be like "damn, they look similar" Is that being racist to my own kind?
2018-11-08 22:56
it would take more than that to be completely racist towards whites.
2018-11-08 23:05
my gf laughs when I say chingchangchong to her after she talks chinese to me and I cant understand 80% of it.
2018-11-08 23:01
then she has a good sense of humor and isn't easily offended like most of my mainland counterparts.
2018-11-08 23:01
Flying to her parents in china soon.... wount do that shit there.
2018-11-08 23:01
ofc not, just don't accidentally slip it in public xd and especially don't accidentally get recorded while doing it cause it can easily spread like a forest fire due to how fucking massive the chinese internet user base is
2018-11-08 23:04
not only the chinese, but also the whole triggered sjw community(americans mostly). can't say anything without offending someone nowadays
2018-11-10 13:40
It's at least as equal as saying "GL niggers" to african team
2018-11-08 22:56
Wtf i wish all niggers GL
2018-11-08 22:59
hahaha
2018-11-08 23:16
#148
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
No lmao. You can say ching chong to english speaking Asian and they'd not get offended. Try saying niggers to American with ultra dark skin irl. See how much time before he/she sends you to the nearest hospital.
2018-11-08 23:16
#190
JewCeps | 
Japan @0x0 
just because chinese arent savages who beat people up over words doesnt mean its not racist
2018-11-08 23:49
Obviously it is racist but i dont think ppl shud be banned for racist words. Everyone is racist anyway. Free speech. Whatever happened to sticks and stones.
2018-11-08 23:09
Its the equivalent of saying GL burger to an american. Its hardly racist at all, and if their chinese i guarantee they dont give a shit, racism is completely acceptable in their culture.
2018-11-08 23:05
#126
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Laos TRIHard77777 
Ping pong ding dong
2018-11-08 23:08
faggot is a offensive word in 2018 what can i say
2018-11-08 23:12
Everything you say these days can be offensive to someone. I just offended myself, I hate the word offensive.
2018-11-08 23:14
#138
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Serbia sensei256 
Did you mention the negative reviews the GAME recieved because of that? :D
2018-11-08 23:14
How come Americans don't go crazy when people call them burgers?
2018-11-08 23:14
cuz americans dont actually go 'burgers burgers burgers' when talking
2018-11-08 23:16
#380
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Dominican Republic g8Q0wHY 
Ahhahaha
2018-11-10 13:46
#380
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Dominican Republic g8Q0wHY 
Bxbdbwh
2018-11-10 13:46
not an actual insult, you need to say something extremely insulting to this country in order for other americans go to full apeshit. Just mock their country for school shootings on youtube and you'll get offended comments instantly
2018-11-08 23:18
People write offensive comments are just braindead. Okay, someone said "haha go shoot in school". So what? You know he is generalising. You know he is wrong (and probably knows it thus it's meant to be a joke). It does not in any way touch your feelings as you didn't plan to make any shooting/didn't lose anyone in these shootings. It's just someone unknown to you joking and generalising about something unknown and irrelevant to you. Stop making drama from nothing, grow up and live your life.
2018-11-09 00:34
It's just an outcome of a moral breakdown.
2018-11-09 01:42
#142
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Indonesia Alpha_Poland 
That is RICEist! fuk u waggot.
2018-11-08 23:15
cya 10 years
2018-11-08 23:16
I knew a guy in college who was from Vietnam, his name was tinpan. What is a chingchong an how does it bother people?
2018-11-08 23:16
the term is a racist term that came from westerners (mainly americans) mocking the chinese language.
2018-11-08 23:18
Example. If you call an American a burger nobody cares but if you call an Asian a rice eater you are called a racist and they do it rice and we do eat burgers so why is one racist and the other not?
2018-11-08 23:21
americans arent a race. thats why.
2018-11-08 23:22
Exactly and neither are Chinese people. So I can call Chinese rice eaters.
2018-11-08 23:27
Chinese are a race actually. cause of Han Chinese which is a ethnicity. American on the other hand isn't cause it's just people coming from all over the world with many ethnicities like Italian, German, Korean, and irish.
2018-11-08 23:31
How does that make any difference? You're human. You're homo sapiens. HOW THE HELL DOES YOUR RACE/GENDER/ANYTHING MATTERS? There is such thing as a joke. And the fact that you belong to some manmade term "race" doesn't give or take any restrictions. It's a freaking joke, nothing more.
2018-11-09 00:29
+1
2018-11-09 11:38
noone calls u racist when u call asian a rice eater. but i have seen people getting mad here cause they are called burgers. that means im racist? they also eat burgers so whats wrong in calling them burgers. why is calling rice eater ok and burger not ok?
2018-11-09 06:55
What an idiot. If the guy had said "china numba one" instead then the micro-penis, beady-eyed ching chongs wouldn't be so triggered. :/
2018-11-08 23:17
what I find a bit ironic is that this came from a Filipino
2018-11-08 23:20
he also has 'ong' surname it means he's of chinese descent lul
2018-11-09 09:37
It's not about if some word is racist or not, It's more about how you say it and in what context
2018-11-08 23:23
least someone can understand.
2018-11-08 23:24
#172
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Australia ADAWG 
It's mocking the way a certain race speaks, so yeah it's racist in some circumstances
2018-11-08 23:29
Lets just all agree. Everything is racist unless you say something against a white male. Can't even say anything against a white female or you are a sexist. For some reason I've noticed that nobody ever gets called a racist for putting down white people.
2018-11-08 23:29
and why do you think thats the case? racism towards whites most certainly exists but people always have the nerve to say you can't or its "reverse" racism when its just racism. Just shows how braindead people are.
2018-11-08 23:34
#182
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Brazil rodrigo0079 
As if racism really exists omegalul
2018-11-08 23:37
racism prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. "based on the belief that one's own race is superior."
2018-11-08 23:39
chingchong is used to mock the chinese language which sounds funny to western people, definitely didn't come from your superiority complex at all
2018-11-09 00:01
I don't think they are less worth just because their language is funny, literally nothing to do with racism
2018-11-09 19:55
Ching chong is making fun of their language. Anyone, no matter skin color can speak Chinese. or even be Chinese.
2018-11-08 23:55
As an American born Chinese, it ain't racist. Omegalul
2018-11-09 00:08
Ok Chingchong if you say so
2018-11-09 03:10
Yeet
2018-11-09 03:10
Holy shit guys, anyone who get's offended in 2k18 is just extrasensitive feminine kid who has to grow up. Like really, being offended in general is superchildishness leave apart racism. He said chingchong? So what? How does that affect you? How does that affect any Chinese person? It's just ONE PERSON making a joke. HOW DID THAT DO ANYTHING TO YOU OR ANYONE IN CHINA? Did that hurt your "patriotic" feelings? Grow up, f's sake, stop being oversensitive kid.
2018-11-09 00:23
+1
2018-11-09 07:01
BUT the standard of 'oversensitive' is vague. It is based on ethnic culture or something more inner & complex that we can't make it clear in hours. Tbh what u have just said might be right in ur community, but the key to friendly international communication is not to cross each other's lines.
2018-11-09 10:01
+100000
2018-11-14 20:31
absolutely not, maybe a little mean but def not racist
2018-11-09 00:38
No, ping pong is racist
2018-11-09 00:41
y3wwfdsa
2018-11-09 00:45
#203 Same goes for Liquid.MC and drama about Russians. As somewhat Russian myself I claim with 100% confidence that anyone who took part in that drama is utterly stupid
2018-11-09 00:51
i feel part of this drama is the chinese are really insecure people
2018-11-09 07:49
#213
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Brazil morFeux 
cheech and chong?
2018-11-09 00:53
maybe a bit digression, but there is a city in china called chongqing, and everytime i see this word my instant thought like, are you talking about the city
2018-11-09 01:28
at least very rude
2018-11-09 01:43
I killed someone when they said that
2018-11-09 03:07
Hi there chingchong
2018-11-09 03:09
#283
Zeus | 
Finland Olter 
watch out he gon kill someone now
2018-11-09 10:49
Try me
2018-11-09 11:45
#248
pronax | 
Russia ShadTH 
chinese is not a race so no lul
2018-11-09 06:59
#257
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Korea DadaDahyun 
Pretty sure these people say chingchong whenever the other person is asian That's what makes them retards
2018-11-09 09:40
#258
pronax | 
Russia ShadTH 
nt chinese
2018-11-09 09:40
#262
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Korea DadaDahyun 
Lmao
2018-11-09 09:59
Yes
2018-11-09 07:50
#265
shox | 
Norway fen0m 
chinese people are weak and retarded thats why they went batshit over "chingchong"
2018-11-09 10:05
No and if you think it is you're a pussy beta male
2018-11-09 10:11
wow you are so alpha
2018-11-09 11:16
Ikr
2018-11-09 12:00
Tbh it sounds the sane as if someone tells a black guy nigga. I am just wondering which similar word is for white race. o.O
2018-11-09 10:17
Superior
2018-11-09 10:36
Superior
2018-11-09 10:36
Wow posted twice, inb4 permaban
2018-11-09 10:36
Really depends on how you define racism. If you ask me, racism means that you think that race x is better than race y. Insulting someone's language doesn't automatically mean that you think that race is inferior, so no, it is not racist in my opinion.
2018-11-09 10:28
#282
Zeus | 
Finland Olter 
I say ching chong to ching chongs all the time. Not racist
2018-11-09 10:48
#286
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Netherlands @Deji 
Yeah
2018-11-09 11:00
Stfu
2018-11-09 12:00
oh chingchang jung chang bang jumb kink chang chang chung
2018-11-09 11:03
#307
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China Sk3y 
you sure that`s Chinese? I just can`t figure out any single word of them...
2018-11-09 12:02
nah bro i just wrote random stuff haha
2018-11-09 17:31
#290
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Turkey xxx_xxx9 
in Turkey nope
2018-11-09 11:10
Nope, absolutely not.
2018-11-09 11:56
Yes it's very racist
2018-11-09 12:11
leftist swedistan lol
2018-11-09 12:43
see my name NaM here
2018-11-09 12:15
It isnt
2018-11-09 12:42
#328
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Poland not_morosek 
how the fuck is that racist
2018-11-09 13:00
More pc bullshit.
2018-11-09 13:21
#331
f0rest | 
Argentina Nawll 
it is if you have inferiority complex :)
2018-11-09 13:36
Tagalog monkeys need to all die together. Good for nothing species
2018-11-09 14:01
why dont you like pinoys?
2018-11-09 16:50
#382
JewCeps | 
Japan @0x0 
hes a chink living in malaysia not a malay he hates japan too
2018-11-10 13:47
#338
tabseN | 
Germany FREIER 
its not racist but its racially insensitive.
2018-11-09 14:02
Yesn't
2018-11-09 14:47
there is no such thing as racism its just ppl who cant handle words.
2018-11-09 15:15
i think its hilarious banter
2018-11-09 15:17
chinese people are the least who should cry. they kill and eat dogs and cats in a brutal way and are racist people in general (hate blacks etc, just look at their racist advertisements). i fucking hate asian people
2018-11-09 15:23
in croatia when you say chingchong it means you're about to slap something from somebodies hands a steal it.. usually cards :D
2018-11-09 15:42
#356
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Sweden mrarrogant 
pros of growing up in multiculturalism: everyone jokes about each other's ethnicity, it's just harmless banter and not insulting
2018-11-09 15:48
#357
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Sweden Akoulad 
Ching chong chong ching
2018-11-09 15:49
#366
allu | 
North America N1tsuA 
Personally I don’t think it’s racist, just making fun of the language. Shouldn’t do it, but I don’t see a fault.
2018-11-09 19:57
it's mild racism, not as bad as using slurs kind of funny, since the chinese are really racist lol
2018-11-09 20:07
YES
2018-11-10 01:58
I get so disgusted by the modern society. Like every single day there’s one more “oppressed” group of morons who get offended over everything. Lost all my respect to the Chinese... wouldn’t be surprised if they soon start importing arabs and become a new Sweden.
2018-11-10 02:52
pls read my post below. I feel you.
2018-11-11 16:02
the problem is ridiculous tho but listen, importing arabs is impossible cuz nationalism (xenophobic type) is rising in China, infecting people in an uncontrollable way and drive some of them like mad Don Quixotes*
2018-11-14 20:18
#372
JW | 
Sweden XperienZeD 
No. Racism is when you treat someone like ass or hate someone for their race, joking about people's languages aren't racist. saying the N word isn't racist either. It's all about context.
2018-11-10 03:03
preach, but when u do say 'chingchong' to chinese (or asian people in general) that is when the term is used in a racist and hurtful way
2018-11-10 03:49
#376
JW | 
Sweden XperienZeD 
It's not racist
2018-11-10 13:18
interesting point of view. I understand the chingchong part, but how is the N word making fun of their language?
2018-11-11 11:03
#373
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Greenland iBalance 
nt kontol
2018-11-10 03:04
is 'Nigger' racist?
2018-11-10 13:45
“fan of Ching Chong”
2018-11-10 13:50
#394
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Russia NOD777 
Gg chingchong
2018-11-11 13:02
No.
2018-11-11 15:49
yes,but it can't hurt my feeling
2018-11-11 15:50
because u live in china and u're the majority
2018-11-11 15:51
yes watch asian people get trigged by it
2018-11-11 15:51
So they should be ashamed of their language because ching chong is a reference to how they talk. I would not call it offensive.
2018-11-11 15:53
people with speech impediment also talk funny but is it right to make fun of them?
2018-11-11 23:42
I said that is reference to how they talk, not a way to make fun of them.
2018-11-12 00:22
it's both, u're lying if u say chingchong isn't used to make fun of chinese
2018-11-15 00:20
Excuse me but, why TF should someone feel ashamed because of their language, just since it sounds strange to part of other ethnic groups?
2018-11-14 20:25
Read what I said again.
2018-11-14 20:25
So do u mean that's the language's fault over the whole incident or not
2018-11-14 20:34
No I mean that if asian people get offended by it, they don't respect their language then, because this truly shows how asians speak and is not meant to make fun of them. It could only be the way of bullying asian people if they didn't respect their own language. Hard to explain maybe you will get it. Like calling a tall guy giraffe, if he hates the fact that he is tall, it will be kind of a bullying, but if he is ok with being tall, he will not get ofended. Imo the whole thing is taken way too seriously, but calling gl chinchong is weird too.
2018-11-14 20:47
Well okay, I get it. What I must clarify is that the whole scandal is just another strange outcome of rising nationalism (partly xenophobic because of historical facts or just carried by the consensus wave). Idk it...this 'thing' is good for our country or not,but I wonder what will happen if this kind of quarrels keep taking place. People don't really know foreigners are indeed trying to offend them or just another dumb joke-some are just racist themselves (example: fake patriots keep saying'white pigs' to others to get sense of identity inter se, no matter offended or not) , others are just trying to avoid nationalism extremists everywhere online. (Like: in this fucking 21th century,if u just admit the advantage of sth foreign in some specific aspects-objectively-they will consider you 'traitor' ,'foreign collaborator' and begin to attack u verbally) At least it is the case in China, considersing these, I choose silence this time.
2018-11-14 21:11
Thats not how it works. Only ethnic groups with superior accomplishments are defined racists nowadays. You can see blacks calling "kill white people", south africans chanting "kill the boer", japanese mostly not accepting any gaijins, Israelis killing the "goyim" or other "minorities" calling white people snowflakes and so on. This is never defined racist. Only if the real minority (by numbers), caucasian people, say something negative about a member of a different ethnic group it's defined racist. These so called "minorities", by being offended and acting like a victim of racism, are indirectly confirming the existence of racism and the superiority of another ethnic group. Real racism, where people of different ethnic groups are being denied human rights should be eliminated. Sadly, nowadays this is the case in many countries of these "minorities".
2018-11-11 16:01
And that's the fault of the whites themselves. I mean the retarded half of whites. The term racism wouldn't be nearly as perverted if there were no SJWs yelling about it every now and then.
2018-11-11 22:14
Well Wikipedia has sort of a good answer for you: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ching_chong
2018-11-11 17:37
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Netherlands poeya 
hltv.org/player/17272/chingchong as far as I know he isnt a racist
2018-11-11 23:36
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United States phytoz 
as an asian-american myself i find the phrase "chingchong" not to be racist but instead a dumb joke people use
2018-11-12 00:38
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United States Contii 
Anyone offended by any word are too sensitive for this world
2018-11-12 04:26
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Brazil leeo^^ 
I missed that, which player insulted them?
2018-11-12 14:19
It's 2018. Of course that's racist.
2018-11-14 20:33
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