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2018-11-12 00:26
#1
Aleksib | 
Liechtenstein mary69 
+1 yeah he looked so pissed and tilted all the time...
2018-11-12 00:26
#12
Xyp9x | 
Denmark megz 
I would be tilted too. They made a lot of mistakes.
2018-11-12 00:41
#40
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Finland Smoonah 
true
2018-11-12 01:57
probably because they clearly had enough info on how to beat astralis, but just kept screwing up all series
2018-11-12 15:53
#77
Aleksib | 
Liechtenstein mary69 
but still.. it doesn’t help the team really
2018-11-12 16:48
I agree, but when you drill your team to do specific things, and they just dont do it right, AND you have to stand there quietly and not say anything as the team you spend so much time and effort to prepare loses you can easily get impatient p.s I also dont ever recall seeing him not like that, maybe its resting bitch face?
2018-11-12 17:03
#80
Aleksib | 
Liechtenstein mary69 
thats true aswell +1 and maybe your team needs a little „bollocking“ as a wake up
2018-11-12 17:16
-elige +spunj
2018-11-12 00:27
#60
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Australia weapon_ 
LOL laugh of the day.
2018-11-12 14:29
#63
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Poland michal990909 
+mustache-man
2018-11-12 15:52
#3
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Denmark Snakebye 
+rusty james
2018-11-12 00:27
its the team composition, not the coach. you cant polish turd and call it a diamond
2018-11-12 00:27
Stop disrespect poland pls
2018-11-12 01:34
#74
Xyp9x | 
Other Zyncc 
i like ur name a lot bro....u have the top iq on hltv m8...cheers
2018-11-12 16:45
another coach wont fix anything -nitr0 for proper igl is a must
2018-11-12 00:27
it might. this is the third tournament in a year that i remember liquid forcing a b rush on mirage while in the lead and then lpsing. they need a proper leader. not a tactical leader but just a guy to untighten their assholes. they are trying to play too proper cs when getting abused. no change of pace nothing. let the guy help the team build their defaults and executes. get another leader.
2018-11-12 00:31
They made another final why would you make a change?
2018-11-12 01:08
because there is a pattern where they get tense and clench their anuses. lose while playing your own game. dont shit the fucking bed. and the coach is doing nothing about that. and the pattern extends to different iterations of the team.
2018-11-12 01:09
They made another final why would you make a change?
2018-11-12 01:10
#55
DEVIL | 
Namibia ramrod 
They lost another final why wouldn't you make a change?
2018-11-12 02:19
Cuz They made another final
2018-11-12 15:50
#44
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United States Jamila 
nitr0 is a proper IGL, the stars have to be better
2018-11-12 02:05
Elige seemed lost. I only watched mirage but I recall some missed easy kills and even when he put on the god flank he over committed and cost liquid some economic damage.
2018-11-12 15:54
Why make changes? They went all the way to the final in a big competition, and lost to the best team (by clear margin) in the world. Every time someone loses a final, some kid makes a -someone thread.
2018-11-12 00:30
becaujse this is like the x amount of time tey shit the bed. they are a good team. they got good individuals. world class. i dont mind them losing. mirage choke started it. nuke i dont mind nuje but they are really shit at reading the game. inferno. they are good on inferno. i still dont mind them getting 3-0 and losing inerno as well. but if your team is that tilted then you gotta do something. also astralis is not invincible. they cant keep calm which is what is making me mad. like i can say maybe cut taco and get ethan but it might distrupt the team chem. because they are a really good fucking team. the problem is in the leadership. hence cut its head off.
2018-11-12 00:33
They are a young team. They need experience. Which they will get eventually by playing more events. You are mentioning choke as a factor. How is that zews fault if they choked? Its nothing he can affect.
2018-11-12 00:36
its the character of the team. he instill it to them i think. he is also super hands on approach. and i think he has a good mind for the game but is a shit leader. your players are clenching their anuses on the final and its not fine. its ok to lose. its not ok to stop playing oyur own game. take a timeout and talk to the players. its a pattern now and hence i blame the guy for it. also eys they are pretty young but only in age. like naf has been around since source. nitr0 was invite in 1.6. taco won 2 majors. elige is in the top of na scene since 2014. only twistz is young and he has bee around since 2015. they got xperience.
2018-11-12 00:44
Ofc it's not zews fault, zews is an amazing coach, but nitro needs to be replaced, or he goes to his normal role but they need a proper igl, it's so stupid that they got rid of igl and then awper to have this choke team, they play well for then lose finals after finals, just like the final vs mouz with snax, they clearly choked mirage, now here they played against best team sure, but first map clear choke, this just means that they need a proper leader who can call on important rounds and not force buy like retards
2018-11-12 01:00
2nd at IEM Chicago 2018 3rd at EPICENTER 2018 2nd at ESL One New York 2018 3rd at FACEIT Major 2018 2nd at ELEAGUE CS:GO Premier 2018 1.10 rating as igl. Give the team some time ffs.
2018-11-12 01:32
Clear cut second best team in the world. They’ll keep making finals. Eventually they’ll get one Note: they always seem to make the finals if it’s bo5 vs astralis or Mouz. The only two guaranteed to beat them in a bo5 smh
2018-11-12 15:55
this just goes to what I've said, the team is good, but in important matches like finals they choke because poor igl without anti strats and poor tactics. they can beat any team out there but then they choke because force buy like idiots and why is that? poor igl once again, if the igl will say ok we eco this round then its eco and end of story, how many times they force bought like retards on mirage for example?!
2018-11-12 18:02
#10
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Finland no_man 
+1 american team will never be #1 anyways so going to the finals and winning here and there is the best they can do
2018-11-12 00:37
MONGOLIAN SCENE LUL
2018-11-12 00:42
#14
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Finland no_man 
stay mad
2018-11-12 00:42
#11
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Lithuania arres 
+1 but I guess, owners wants to win something after all the finals. This is the 4th time they are beaten in finals by astralis this year. I guess there might be some scheming going on in background and some move might be on the horizon for liquid. It's not like they are bad, but not the best. I think the most likely candidate would be nitro for that.
2018-11-12 00:40
i dont think they would cut the igl. because there arent many that can take the role. also you would disrupt the team chem a lot. i dont think more firepower can solve it either. if so id rather get ethan for taco.
2018-11-12 00:49
ethan has shown choking ability as well. bad idea
2018-11-12 02:38
I dont think more firepower can solve it. -taco +ethan Lmao
2018-11-12 16:43
"if so"
2018-11-12 16:46
#37
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Brazil cabocl0 
+1
2018-11-12 01:56
jzargo understands your point, but his point is not about iem chicago, is about not winning any of the 11 events they played with this lineup
2018-11-12 02:15
-zews +hardstyle aka godstyle ez 4 visa issues
2018-11-12 00:52
#18
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Brazil rmarques 
-zews +yNk -TACO +Stewie2k
2018-11-12 00:53
no. maybe; -zews +seangares -taco +nahte -nitr0 +tarik/stewie
2018-11-12 00:55
#32
TACO | 
Brazil user2740 
seangares being a coach would be sick
2018-11-12 01:11
Did he lost some weigh tho?
2018-11-12 00:53
#43
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Brazil 1AxeL1 
dude, i was so impressed by that, it's just like Coldzera
2018-11-12 02:04
yes I thought I was the only one who realized it but yea its insane, good for him he looks way better now =)
2018-11-12 14:10
#22
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Greece anwteros 
a team who is going finals must not change anything
2018-11-12 01:01
#24
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United States BigFnaticFan 
They get to finals and lose, the only event Liquid has won was 2017 cs summit, they need a team that can come in first at events, not second
2018-11-12 01:04
#26
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Greece anwteros 
with your logic every team above liquid must change something because they lose.
2018-11-12 01:05
#39
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Brazil cabocl0 
+1
2018-11-12 01:57
the problem is not them losing. its their constant choking. its a pattern now and its a leadership issue. you can play your own game and still lose its alright. astralis is a great fucking team. its not okay to lose your shit and start playing worse and worse while the guy standing behind you doing nothing/calling b rushes on mirage
2018-11-12 01:07
#23
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United States BigFnaticFan 
- zews - (insert any other liquid player)
2018-11-12 01:03
#25
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Sweden aN0x- 
yeah change the only guy with brain
2018-11-12 01:04
then keep him for his tactical mind. just put another guy behind them. he is responsible for this choking pattern. because he isnt doing jack shit while his players gets tense and tenser. its alright to lose if the other team is great. its really not ok for you to lose your shit and your coach doing absolutely nothing. and this is like what 8th time this year?
2018-11-12 01:08
#38
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Brazil vinnyzeraNTC 
No dude Liquid choking come way before zews, it's some kind of a curse that's with the Org itself and not the players (if you believe that idk, I don't, but who knows). Remember MLG Columbus 2016 semifinal versus LG? Zews was actually on the other side and they choked both maps, could've won that series 2-0 but they actually lost 2-0. Nothing to do with zews.
2018-11-12 01:56
#34
jokes | 
Brazil on_you 
0/8
2018-11-12 01:34
#36
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Brazil vinnyzeraNTC 
Yes pls and MIBR kick that serbian P.O.S. Ynk ResidentSleeper and bring back Zews, the one who won them both majors. And kick the two muricans peanut brain and bring back Boltz and Kscerato. MIBR is for Brazilians only
2018-11-12 01:54
#41
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Finland Smoonah 
-zews +steel
2018-11-12 01:57
#42
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North America Qu1rrel 
zews is one of if not the best coach.
2018-11-12 02:02
#46
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Brazil 1AxeL1 
I agree bro, like, any team that he is/was the coach did a good job, (Liquid and LG/SK Gaming) MIBR NO MAJOR WITHOUT TACO, FNX AND ZEWS
2018-11-12 02:07
without zews, liquid will be tier 3. not kidding
2018-11-12 02:06
#49
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Brazil 1AxeL1 
+1, Twitszz is the only good AND consistent player
2018-11-12 02:08
i remember when the valve coaching rule wasn't in effect, zews was essentially liquid's IGL and they were amazing during that time. zews is definitely not the problem lmao
2018-11-12 02:09
+1 he's probably the best coach out there
2018-11-12 16:47
If there is someone to kick is nitro. They need a proper igl or at least a good awper...
2018-11-12 02:07
-Stewie -Ynk -Tarik +Zews +Taco +Felps =Major
2018-11-12 02:08
#51
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Brazil 1AxeL1 
Felps no, FNX
2018-11-12 02:09
FNX is washed up and unmotivated. The future is now old man
2018-11-12 02:10
#54
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Europe Cirro 
they just need to hire like 10 new coaches only to prepare them to play against astralis
2018-11-12 02:17
instead of losing in finals they'll be losing in quarters, noice
2018-11-12 14:14
why? you think their success is because of zews? while i agree he did create the backbone of the team, the defaults and the executes and numerous strats, he also instilled their character. and is absolutely useless when they stop playing their own game. its a fucking pattern now that they dont play like they usually do in the latter stages. and he is responsible of that pattern. and the guy does absolutely nothing to helo his players. he is no leader. he shouldnt stand begind them. like i dont mind the them losing in finals or semis or whatever as long as they play their own game. that rigid play after 14-10 mirage was horrible to fucking watch.
2018-11-12 14:22
#61
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Australia weapon_ 
dont think zews is the problem.. hes the reason they are where they are.. hes getting pissed because they cant execute the strats.
2018-11-12 14:30
#64
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Turkey ChPLI 
-toxic nitro
2018-11-12 15:52
#59
2018-11-12 16:24
#68
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Ukraine ksay 
another -1 thread after another final AYYYY
2018-11-12 15:56
#59
2018-11-12 16:24
#71
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Ukraine ksay 
??? are those your guesses? as far as i remember pimp after leaving liquid only praised zews and said that he is a game changer if u ever watched interviews than u know that zews has a high morale and always pushing his players to do better liquid were known chokers even before zews why kick zews if it's a clear mental problem? why don't just hire psychologist or change a flawed choking core (nitro/elige)?
2018-11-12 16:35
not guesses. stanislaw had problems with him. he came from a winning team. he was the igl of the second best team in the world. he was also calling and fragging. zews didnt like his calling, he got cut without trying his way. zews got full control of tte team. they didnt even let him play in the major. but they played with zews. he was horrible and a alibility. they didnt even make it to top 16. they could use free agents like n0thing. they didnt even went for that road which is pretty sad imo cuz that challenger stage was pretty easy(avangar, qbf) and they even had an extra match in a swiss system because immortals wasnt there. i like zews. i like his input and the ct defaults of liquid and they got good executes. bt they choke. astralis core used to choke as well. they changed the leadership. they kinda stopped choking(device still did) this is a confidence game. he is the coach. he needs to be able to help them play their own game. nuke and inferno was a shit show. they already checke out of the game mentally. which is zews responsibility as the coach. they can still keep him but they can put another guy behind them.
2018-11-12 16:36
#78
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Ukraine ksay 
everyone had a problems with stanislaw except if they were total rookies like complexity stanislaw was even once kicked from the old optic line-up (with rush/mixwell/naf etc) before their success if u remember. it's not like there are many coaches that can frag. even when he was playing it wasn't that bad. he literally played most of the rounds with lesser weapons or cz and let nitr0 perform very well. even if he is a problem there are no coaches who can replace him. boost moral and have a good ingame input at the same time. by your logic astralis should've -zonic for someone else and not -karrigan +glaive. zonic wasn't responsible for team chokes and zews wasn't as well. they need another igl or time to develop.
2018-11-12 16:56
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