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Gla1ve still underrated
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Denmark ecolai_ecovice_reedtz 
How does it come he doesn't get regularly get considered a top 5 player?! He literally made Astralis great, he has the best knowledge of the game (smoke kills, rotations, strats) and at the same time he's a top fragger. I would even say that gla1ve is more important in terms of impact than device. So all in all: gla1ve at least top 5
2018-11-12 22:56
gla1ve 2nd highest iq player
2018-11-12 22:58
#4
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Ukraine MrUkraine 
who's first?
2018-11-12 23:00
god hunden ofc
2018-11-13 11:44
Who's better?
2018-11-12 23:01
#8
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New Zealand Eauor 
god snax
2018-11-12 23:02
#32
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Denmark dR_JaCkPoT 
.... and friberg is the king of banana.
2018-11-12 23:14
#35
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New Zealand Eauor 
+1
2018-11-12 23:20
#78
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Denmark dR_JaCkPoT 
keep living in 2014 m8
2018-11-13 13:34
This made me laugh
2018-11-12 23:18
#36
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New Zealand Eauor 
:D
2018-11-12 23:20
you know whats also funny? the dutch esports scene :(
2018-11-12 23:26
#45
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New Zealand Eauor 
We have chrisJ man :D
2018-11-12 23:27
1 man scene 4Head
2018-11-12 23:28
#76
chrisJ | 
Finland Motori 
Docc
2018-11-13 12:00
Xyp9x
2018-11-12 23:14
#63
Xyp9x | 
Brazil Jeanzera 
+1
2018-11-12 23:40
#2
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Europe p1peb0mb 
because there are 10 better players than him this year
2018-11-12 23:00
#17
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
+1
2018-11-12 23:06
#3
fnx | 
Austria I_love_Hltv 
Overrated
2018-11-12 23:00
#7
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Greenland Jardeet 
gla1ve overrated its all ZONIC
2018-11-12 23:01
#9
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New Zealand Eauor 
zonic > s1mple
2018-11-12 23:02
It's actually them both as you can see in Astralis interviews. Device and dupreeh said that gla1ve and zonic are the "leaders" of the team
2018-11-12 23:03
#10
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Denmark BATISTUTA9 
You are right, problem is 14 yr olds appreciate 360 noscopes way above worlds best leading tactical mind. Gla1ve is in my opinion the best counter-strike player.
2018-11-12 23:02
I agree. For me gla1ve is the best player atm as well. What he contributes to the team is insane
2018-11-12 23:04
#21
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
they dont take into account strats or igl since that kind of thing isnt really measurable by rating or awards. fallen was on the top 20 before because he was actually really good and because hltv likes brazillian dick. glaives fragging is nothing special, if you took away the calling hes a pretty good pro but nothing special
2018-11-12 23:08
#28
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Denmark BATISTUTA9 
You cant just remove calls, and look on the frags. His entire role defines his frags. Some people accept that trade off, like pronax. But here you get a very solid fragger AND worlds best tactical mind.
2018-11-12 23:12
Hltv is a danish site lmao.
2018-11-12 23:13
#34
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
yeah i know thats why device will be number 2 even though niko deserves it more
2018-11-12 23:19
He will be #1 for sure
2018-11-12 23:23
#39
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
not a chance the only people that say device #1 are astralis fangays they will annoy too much of the community for s1mple not to be #1
2018-11-12 23:24
#49
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New Zealand INxNITY 
+1 and even won MVPS that he didnt win the tournament
2018-11-12 23:31
#51
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
only the most hardcore fangays say device>s1mple at this point its basically impossible to argue
2018-11-12 23:32
#52
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Yea, I think S1mple is going to get it. But Device is a hard contender. (I dont like Astralis/ a fan of them)
2018-11-12 23:33
#54
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
And + atm its 1. S1mple 2. NiKo 3. Device hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2018-01..
2018-11-12 23:35
#55
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
i know hltv is biased toward danes but i dont think theyre that biased theres no way theyll do that shit it would just be retarded
2018-11-12 23:35
#57
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Yea, alot of fans. Like the team thats winning. like I bet half of the sk fans moved to astralis because they are winning.
2018-11-12 23:36
#60
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
hahhha yeah probably
2018-11-12 23:37
#61
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Im a fan of G2 they aint winning. But Yea.
2018-11-12 23:38
#62
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
i like watching navi cuz its fun to see how bad botward and zeus are and just watch s1mple and electronic carry their asses
2018-11-12 23:40
#64
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Same with KennyS and shox
2018-11-12 23:40
who cares? Device will be top1, hltv is biased.
2018-11-13 00:01
Don’t forget he has a great squad to work with
2018-11-12 23:29
#11
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Germany mary69 
hell yeah he is so fucking good🔥 ingame leader and always fragging such a beast
2018-11-12 23:02
you dont count him being an igl as apart of being the best players, hes top 15 but he still the worst player of astri
2018-11-12 23:02
How is he the worst player of Astralis if he is literally leading/organizing all their plays (with zonic)
2018-11-12 23:06
#20
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Finland Olter 
Skillwise the worst.
2018-11-12 23:07
#31
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Denmark BATISTUTA9 
So is skills only frags? Honestly a pretty narrow minded stance
2018-11-12 23:14
#50
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Finland Olter 
Thats the hltv ranking for you, you are the dweeb arguing about who belongs there when in truth it doesnt even matter
2018-11-12 23:32
I guess people just check hltv ratings and rank players based on that rather than comparing players with the same role.
2018-11-12 23:10
im saying hes the worst by fragging
2018-11-12 23:11
He is but Magisk, Xyp and gla1ve are very close
2018-11-12 23:27
IGL's hardly ever get the praise they deserve. Last year i think Fallen was top3 awper and best igl, yet overshadowed by Coldzera and Fer as teammates and by Device as an awper. (Fallen was #7, injustice)
2018-11-12 23:06
#22
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
THEY DONT TAKE CALLING OR IGL INTO ACCOUNT WHEN THEY MAKE THE LIST HOW DIFFICULT IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND
2018-11-12 23:09
top 8 mr imposter
2018-11-12 23:06
#19
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Poland MBT_yt 
Yes, that is right. IGL is important role. Glaive is smart. They can easily win 3v5 and that's why I like Astralis. They play great.
2018-11-12 23:07
This is exactly the point
2018-11-12 23:09
#24
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
flair checks out
2018-11-12 23:09
dont bother he is just copying me
2018-11-12 23:10
#37
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
i thought it was actually you for a second i didnt see the other n you are the one true murifag astralis fangay, never change my sweet angel
2018-11-12 23:23
haha
2018-11-12 23:25
Because top 5 players are those who are individually best and have most impact. Gla1ve has shitton of impact but impact on his team, not on an individual level.
2018-11-12 23:24
"have most impact". So then especially gla1ve should be a top 5 player since his impact is insane
2018-11-12 23:26
Can you read? I just told you that he has impact team-wise which is what makes the team so insane and coordinated but that cant be considered when ranking him individually. This is why IGL's are almost always low in rankings because you can't judge their impact in a team on an individual level.
2018-11-12 23:36
Yea, insane stats for an IGL but individually you can't put him in a top 5 when you consider other top players. I won't be suprised if he gets top 10 though.
2018-11-12 23:37
Is it the first time ever for a whole team to be in the top 20?
2018-11-12 23:57
Yea, i think so. Nip have had 4 one year, Fnatic 4 in 2 years and SK 4 in one year.
2018-11-13 00:31
Impact wise he is def top 5. For me overall he should be in the top 10 this year but if not top 15 is good enough for him. Not just because of his IGL btw. Imo he can join any team and hold his own. People forget gla1ve wasn't always an IGL.
2018-11-12 23:34
Because most of people here just considering only aim skill and nothing more. gla1ve is one of the best fragging igl`s (if not the best), very smart and disciplined player. For me he was MVP of Marsille (sorry to s1mple fans) even with lower rating and also he responsible for amazing team performance by Astralis. He and zon1c are just two great tactics, architects of Astralis dominance :) Definietly top 5 players in last year.
2018-11-12 23:43
This ^
2018-11-12 23:47
#68
liTTle | 
CIS Dowa) 
glaive rare smoke shooting thru ability underrated
2018-11-12 23:44
He´s a really good IGL, in terms of fragging impact and tactical mind. But saying that he made Astralis great, that´s wrong. Most of the tactics are projected by Zonic, and adding Magisk ( a guy that has impact, not like Kjarbye, who was a pure entry killer ), Is the key to Astralis dominance.
2018-11-12 23:52
Fallen best
2018-11-13 00:01
"He literally made Astralis great" it was zonic when will people like you realize this? Even gla1ve know this this is why they praise and thank him so much. zonic is the biggest reason why they're doing so good. To sign Magisk was also a zonic move. Without zonic glave couldn't perform for a long term like this he would end like FalleN without zews.
2018-11-13 12:08
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