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Brexit...
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
...is a complete mess. Theresa May's deal is fucking awful and will make us the EU's bitch. But she's going to get ousted as PM in a week maximum anyway, and then some dumbass like Boris Johnson will probably replace her and we will really be up shit creek without a paddle. If this is the "best deal negotiable" in May's words, then Brexit should be cancelled. Simple as. Why carry on being stubborn if it's going to ruin the country? And for the people that will say "haViNG A sEcOND refUReNdUM wiLL BetRAY dEmOcrACY". no. It will enforce the will of the people. If you say that, then wouldn't deciding to leave after a referendum voting us in was taken in 1975 also be a betrayal of democracy? No it wouldn't, because times change and politics is not set in stone and in a certain time - situations have changed and opinions have changed, just as they had before Brexit. And if it's all about the will of the people, then why not double check that the public actually want this? I know why May and the Tories won't even consider it - because they know they'll probably lose. They've learnt their lesson after the last general election. I am currently a remainer but if there was actually a good deal to leave the EU that would make us better off, then I would support it. But there isn't. Because Brexit is worse for my country. And the "benefits" of leaving, like border control and law control, do not outweigh the negatives at all. The man in charge of getting us a Brexit deal (Dominic Raab)'s resignation should tell you how fucking screwed we are.
2018-11-15 21:30
xD
2018-11-15 21:31
#6
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
Care to elaborate?
2018-11-15 21:33
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT POLITICS
2018-11-15 21:34
#12
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
Then why are you here xdxd
2018-11-15 21:35
Because i can XD
2018-11-15 21:36
#189
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France LaBaNaN 
What's the point of commenting in a politic thread if you don't give a fuck about politics?
2018-11-16 14:06
#16
2018-11-17 00:44
Brexit was just a retarded idea face it, if you dont work with eu youre fucked, its a fucking superpower
2018-11-15 21:33
#14
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
I know. It was largely based on lies from self-interested politcians like Dickface Farage
2018-11-15 21:36
You are smarter than everyone i guess
2018-11-15 21:38
Yeah, feel bad for the youth of brittain than got fucked by retarded elderly who all got persuaded by a orangutang and a salamander to vote brexit
2018-11-15 21:38
#30
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United Kingdom HoRyzen 
Yeah feel bad for the 64% of young people who didnt bother to vote. Keep the bullshit up.
2018-11-15 21:42
Well yeah thats fucking dumb but still, theres also young kids and teens that werent even allowed to vote and are now screwed
2018-11-15 21:46
#45
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United Kingdom HoRyzen 
what so we should have a new vote everyday because people turn 18 everyday? should we do that? That's your logic.
2018-11-15 21:49
#47
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United Kingdom Gio_bose 
feelsbad for the teens that cant vote who are gonna feel most of the consequences feelsbad that 20% of the people that voted brexit are probably dead now
2018-11-15 21:50
#50
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United Kingdom HoRyzen 
Not even going to bother trying to string an actual argument against shit you just pulled out your arsehole.
2018-11-15 21:51
#55
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United Kingdom Gio_bose 
oh yh that was just for the lols XD
2018-11-15 21:53
#182
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United States BlindSnipe 
Could be like US voters where 20% of them are already dead and still voted...
2018-11-16 13:38
#241
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United Kingdom Gio_bose 
not rlly but u think that
2018-11-17 16:02
#87
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
Also feel bad for the 73% of 18-24 year olds who voted remain. Keep that bullshit up.
2018-11-15 22:55
#108
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United Kingdom HoRyzen 
That lost overall...
2018-11-15 23:30
#22
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United Kingdom HoRyzen 
What and just accept the EU ways and stay in it, are you fucking retarded? When something is wrong you fight for it.
2018-11-15 21:39
What and just accept that now it'll screw our country up, are you fucking retarded? When something is wrong you fight for it.
2018-11-16 00:43
What did farage gain from Brexit? Even more hate and death threats? Say what you want about the man (I personally think he's great) but it's difficult to see what greedy purpose he could've possibly had to risk what he did (three assassination attempts btw)
2018-11-15 21:58
#90
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
Erm, he gained Brexit? That's why UKIP existed, you know. He tried to acheive his goal even if it meant lying. Look at all the criminal investigations into the Leave campaign.
2018-11-15 22:58
#164
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United Kingdom Clive 
Two words: hedge funds.
2018-11-16 10:23
#156
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United Kingdom Johal 
the only reason people voted out is because they dont want immigrants and they thought the money going to the eu would be going to the nhs insted, in reality both wont happen
2018-11-16 01:29
#168
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
Yep pretty much
2018-11-16 11:57
feelsbad when 70,000 people who voted out have died in the past 2 years, due to old age... our fate was decided by people who are no longer here
2018-11-16 22:56
#211
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
Yeah I know it sucks, but it would be kind of undemocratic to deny old people the vote, one could argue
2018-11-16 22:59
oh no i agree with that trust me, its just quite sad really
2018-11-16 23:02
#11
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United States PsychoLogical 
Who knew things could change so much in 2 years after that vote. Politicians are calling it quits left and right like sheesh.
2018-11-15 21:36
Hard brexit now!
2018-11-15 21:36
#91
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
Not a good idea.
2018-11-15 22:58
The die is cast.
2018-11-15 23:02
#96
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
No, it isn't. We can either extend the negotiation period and make a good (or at least better) deal, if that's possible, and although no one really wants that it's better than the shit deal we have now, or we can call a second referendum and not leave. Donald Tusk and several of our politicians have made it clear that cancelling Brexit is on the table.
2018-11-15 23:07
There is no good Brexit deal. Cuz EU don't want the UK to succeed or want to force us to remain. That only leaves hard Brexit.
2018-11-15 23:43
#117
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
Nice for someone else to recognize that. So we cancel Brexit. And EU doesn't want us to fail, they just can't let us push them around and have special treatment. If a country could just leave and cease all financial commitments while also keeping all the benefits of the EU, and none of the setbacks, then EVERY member would leave. They need to set an example. You're being too idealistic
2018-11-15 23:46
Forget the EU. EU is run by Merkel and her kind who want political union. The future will be a free trade deal with other regional blocs like Asia as CPTPP or with NA.
2018-11-15 23:53
Trade deal with Trump, omegalul. Little Britain will be crushed at the tables by China or USA. You just totally surrendered to the EU, how do you think negotiations end with China or the USA? Nobody is waiting for an "independent" UK and the UK will always get shit deals like this brexit deal. But have fun tho, gonna be funny to watch how Corby turns you into European cuba.
2018-11-16 00:23
5th largest economy in the world. But no one wants us. Keep talking that shit. :) EU = EUrabia soon enough.
2018-11-16 00:30
Yeah and Britain is also full of muslims, even the mayor of london is a muslim.
2018-11-16 13:43
#169
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
You can forget an FTA with the US lmao
2018-11-16 11:58
why is that?
2018-11-16 13:45
#188
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
Donald Trump will just keep hiking up tariffs, whereas we have free trade with all of Europe. I know what I'd prefer.
2018-11-16 14:04
if we are in a FTA then we won't be subject to tariffs.
2018-11-16 14:26
#191
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
But we won't get one, I don't think you realise who the us president is. Any agreement we have with the us will have tariffs.
2018-11-16 14:27
#118
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Finland tetuan 
I think hard brexit would be good because then people would see what it would be like to be outside the union. Your country basicly wants wants all the benefits of the union but when you have to do something that is not in your interest you start to bitch.
2018-11-15 23:46
#17
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United Kingdom HoRyzen 
We have been betrayed by our own government, they have failed democracy and there is little hope for any good coming out of what the people voted on, the EU are a disgraceful authoritarian bureaucracy that is run by unelected officials and run by a made up country, they impose laws over our countries own laws, they take money and lets the migrants run rampant in the streets of our country. For people to even want to stay in this scam show is beyond my belief and it shows how blind people are to the truth of the EU. They are ruining Europe's culture and destroying them economically. The only hope we have now is to get rid of that witch Theresa May and get someone in that can get us anything we actually voted for. I hope for Jacob Rees-Mogg to do some good with this country.
2018-11-15 21:37
lies, lies. or LEAVE EUROPE NOW and face the consequences.
2018-11-15 21:39
Jacob Rees-Mogg seems like a good man! Are you a High Tory by chance?
2018-11-15 21:58
#68
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United Kingdom HoRyzen 
I wouldn't say I am a High Tory but I've always had respect for the High Tories but I always liked Farage better, it's only because the conservatives are in power that I would want JRM as he actually wants Brexit and has traditional values.
2018-11-15 22:10
Farage seems like a good guy to have a pint with and curse the big establishments. Love the fact he drinks and smokes and doesn't put on the facade of a "politician".
2018-11-15 22:17
#76
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United Kingdom HoRyzen 
Yeah hes just a true Englishman with good values and doesn't care what people think of him, i've always wanted to meet him and shake his hand.
2018-11-15 22:19
#94
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
If you think that's all the EU does then you really are braindead. What is the "truth of the EU"? I've taken Economics A Level for just like 2-3 months and I can see how important the EU is to our economy. And even fucking Raab admitted he didn't realise how important the Calais crossing is to our trade. Gaining complete control of our borders (bearing in mind we ALREADY do have more control of our borders than other EU countries since we didn't join the Schengen agreement, AND most of our migrants come from OUTSIDE the EU so our decision on them is our own) does NOT outweigh the potential economic catastrophe that a bad/no deal Brexit could cause. If you want Rees-Mogg and his no deal Brexit then you're really not worth my time, you evidently know nothing about how a country actual works and are soley motivated by your possibly racist ideologies.
2018-11-15 23:05
#110
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United Kingdom HoRyzen 
Wow what a coincidence, I've been taking A-level economics for 2-3 months now and guess what- I did it for GCSE as well!!! I'm not brainwashed by liberal teachers that spew lies to you.
2018-11-15 23:33
Wow what a coincidence, I have a master's degree in Economics and work for a professional services company in London. And guess what - you're fucking retarded.
2018-11-16 00:46
#152
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United Kingdom HoRyzen 
Your country shouldn't even exist so your opinion means nothing.
2018-11-16 01:20
You did basic fucking economics for your GCSEs when you're too young to have REALLY worked and know what economics mean. Any advanced economic will tell you that you're a little shit and need to grow the fuck up.
2018-11-16 10:15
#167
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United Kingdom HoRyzen 
You need to grow up swearing at getting mad at kids.
2018-11-16 11:38
#166
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
Wow what a coincidence, some right wing retard assumes that everyone that disagrees with him is a liberal! No, my teacher is not. He's never tried to convince us to his point of view, he's never said what he thinks although you can tell, he's just given the facts to us. And the facts are that the EU is good for us. At least I'm not brainwashed like farage brainwashed you.
2018-11-16 11:30
#170
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United Kingdom HoRyzen 
You just assumed that all right wing people are retarded. Bit hypocritical.
2018-11-16 12:05
#171
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
You also just assumed I'm left wing. I'm central, slightly right leaning even. (Just not as right wing as you). But I can recognise that unless we renegotiate a good deal then Brexit will be bad for the country and it would be better to stay in the EU. Before the vote happened I was a remainer. Then for a bit I thought this might actually work if we get a good deal. Now I'm a remainer because we can't get a good deal. Unlike you, I'm not stubborn, I'm not stuck to one opinion, I'm open minded. Maybe you should try the same thing. Actually look at the facts and realise what a mistake Brexit could be. This is boring me now so that's my last reply. I'll read whatever you say next but that's it, maybe you can try and put together something somewhat intelligent for me?
2018-11-16 13:01
#193
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United Kingdom HoRyzen 
If i'd known you was a centralist I would of even started to bother replying to you. Centralists are thick minded hipsters who think because they dont have any views leaning any directions they are automatically correct. I would rather debate a commie than a centralist.
2018-11-16 14:48
#194
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
Well that was pretty unintelligent
2018-11-16 16:38
#203
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France HhuhEZ 
Older generations made their choice based on mainstream media lies, there wont be a "revote" sadly. Hard Brexit would cause catastrophic damage to the economy, that being said i still like the idea of Brexit, however the short term negative effects is a real determent to our society and cannot be overlooked.
2018-11-16 21:06
RIP
2018-11-15 21:37
the referendum itself was not democratic. a referendum when the students were having exams, the old people deciding for the younger generations. it was based on lies etc. What about northern ireland, scotland. they are pro EU. how is Brexit democratic? British people, or at least those with a brain, are desperate, politicians are desperate... Chaos... Staying in EU is also humiliating for UK. I mean... there's no easy solution and Europe has to stay strong.
2018-11-15 21:38
#25
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United Kingdom HoRyzen 
The people voted and they voice was heard, it was a fair vote, how was the vote undemocratic?
2018-11-15 21:40
the people? i just said that most students didn't vote. They are the future of UK, and Europe as well. So tell me how is that democratic? Another argument: how can a referendum be "democratic" if it's based on lies?
2018-11-15 21:42
#33
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United Kingdom HoRyzen 
They had their chance to vote and didn't, they couldn't be bothered to use their democratic right to cast their vote for their belief. And please enlighten me about the lies?
2018-11-15 21:44
do a research on google.
2018-11-15 21:48
#46
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United Kingdom HoRyzen 
Oh so you have nothing, what a surprise.
2018-11-15 21:49
Maybe he is referring to Nigel Farage who promised 350 million pounds for the NHS (instead of the EU) but AFTER the referendum he said 'no I can't guarantee that'. Still it was a democratic referendum because every citizen was able to vote, but Brexit shows us that those referendums are shit because many people do not even understand what is going on and are easy to manipulate.
2018-11-15 21:51
All elections are full of manifesto promises that are broken. There are no legal requirements for people to keep to their word. That is simply what democracy is. Brexit referendum was nothing special.
2018-11-15 21:55
You can argue that Trumps wall is failing cuz they have no money left for such a project. You can argue that Merkel couldn't imagine the huge numbers of refugees and potential problems they would bring to Germany. In this case Mr. Punchface gave a specific number. Where are the 350 million if not in the NHS when the UK leaves? This was a blatant lie and directly after the rederendum was over he let everyone know he lied.
2018-11-15 22:07
There is no difference to your examples and the figure he said he could return back to the UK. They were all broken manifesto claims. It is a ubiquitous thing in politics.
2018-11-15 23:02
#52
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United Kingdom Gio_bose 
are you dumb farrage said we would save so much money from leaving the eu look at our fucking economy
2018-11-15 21:52
#57
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United Kingdom HoRyzen 
We havent even left yet you brainlet. And our last 2 quarters growth was higher than before Brexit, dont try and pipe up to shit you dont know.
2018-11-15 21:55
lies. If leaving Europe is a good thing, why haven't you left already? Logic...
2018-11-15 22:07
Cuz they don't want to pay, but want to keep the benefits of the EU
2018-11-15 22:16
exactly my friend
2018-11-15 22:17
#238
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United Kingdom Gio_bose 
bro £1= 1.12 euros dont tell me shit u idiot
2018-11-17 15:57
#31
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France BadGones 
"it was fair" nice joke mate
2018-11-15 21:43
#34
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United Kingdom HoRyzen 
Tell me how it wasnt instead of quoting me with no evidence then.
2018-11-15 21:44
#38
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France BadGones 
When a vote is 51/49% and 30% of the country didn't vote. I can't conclude the vote was fair. If now you include all those ppl who want to cancel this stupid brexit. You have your solution.
2018-11-15 21:46
#43
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United Kingdom HoRyzen 
So no election that doesnt have forced participation isnt fair. Let me guess Trump being president wasnt fair either. What about the unelected people who control the EU, tell me is that fair?
2018-11-15 21:48
#48
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France BadGones 
Well, leave EU, but don't complain if your country fall /close
2018-11-15 21:51
#53
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United Kingdom HoRyzen 
Yeah we kinda tried but we had a prime minister who wanted to stay that fucked us over.
2018-11-15 21:52
It was fair in a legitimate legal way in which it happened under normal circumstances, it wasn't fair in the sense that most of young adults voted to stay in EU, the older more conservative generation voted to leave the EU and heavily outweighed the younger ones basically deciding for their future.
2018-11-15 22:57
#109
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United Kingdom HoRyzen 
'We didn't get our way so it doesn't count' do you people hear what you are saying?
2018-11-15 23:30
I don't understand what you are saying
2018-11-15 23:34
#99
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
And now why not hear their voice again, to make sure that Brexit is still what the people want? Oh, because you know you will lose. Brexiteers like Farage, and the Leave campaign, lied to the general public. You can't dispute that. The £350 million figure has been disproven countless times, and also doesn't take into account the investment we receive FROM the EU, and the benefits of the single market and free movement, since the Calais crossing is so important for our trade.
2018-11-15 23:12
#113
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United Kingdom HoRyzen 
We can get trade deals elsewhere the US, Canada and the BRICS and European countries will still want to trade with us. To have another referendum is undemocratic. And we are at a loss to the EU each year.
2018-11-15 23:36
#116
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
We will not get as good a trade deal as we did in the single market. Period. Referendums and votes are a definition of democracy. By calling another referendum we are giving the people of this country their democratic right to approve something that will affect all the future generations of this country. It is undemocratic: To lie when campaigning. To push for a deal like May's or a no deal, which does not deliver on the promises that people voted for, and would not benefit this country in the slightest. To stop another referendum when people know that many people in the country have changed their minds. Is it undemocratic to even have the 2016 referendum, because we already had one in 1975 opting in to the EU? Because that was the will of the people at that time? No. Politics changes with time. Opinions and beliefs change with time. And now according to all the polls I've seen recently, the British public's belief is now that we should remain. It would be undemocratic to offer us that opportunity. It would be undemocratic to not even have a second referendum, just to make sure that this is what Brits want. And people like you only say "it's undemocratic" because you are scared of losing this time. If you're so focused on the will of the people and democracy, then what possible reason other than self-interest could you have for disapproving of a second referendum?
2018-11-15 23:44
#123
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United Kingdom HoRyzen 
The deal that Teresa May has done is utter dog shite and I dont want it so that means I would want a second referendum?- No. The people spoke and the decision is final how bad it may be and I will respect it. When we're balling with the US and BRICS we can talk about the single market. Stretching of truth from either side so yeah whatever. And polls dont mean nothing, if you dont believe me just look at the 2016 US election polls. Please honestly name 1 thing the EU does good fro us.
2018-11-15 23:51
> The people spoke and the decision is final how bad it may be and I will respect it. can you explain to me, is there any other reason than pure stubbornness, for continuing on this path? even when you know it will be either very very bad or pretty bad, it cant be good, you still dont want to reconsider. its the charge of the light brigade. its your pride as brits. put your pride aside for the good of all europe.
2018-11-16 13:07
one good thing the EU does? thats easy. the EU makes sure WW3 doesnt break out here. never again war in europe. that was the original main goal and it still is. linking european economies as much as possible makes 100% sure it is profitable for no one to start conflict. peace is guaranteed. france and germany wont go to war against each other. theyd be bankrupt in a week. the economic benefits are a secondary concern. its about peace. you brits seem to have some trouble remembering the cost of war. whats 10 billion a year to the EU compared to that. whats any amount of money. a new war in europe, even a small one, would cost trillions.
2018-11-16 13:12
#187
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
The people spoke on something that is far different to what our reality is now. This Brexit is not what people wanted. Therefore they should have the right to decide on this new Brexit. Thats democracy - letting people decide what happens to our country. If the polls don't matter then why are you scared of another referendum? Because you will lose, because you know that opinions have changed. Advantages of the EU: Free movement is a benefit, believe it or not. Single market/free trade. More influence in the continent. The 3.5 million jobs dependent on EU trade. Its importance to our business and economy. I could go on.
2018-11-16 14:03
Shut up luxembourg lul.
2018-11-15 21:40
Lux, a great country
2018-11-15 21:42
#28
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France BadGones 
Good man +1
2018-11-15 21:42
So democracy is a flawed system?
2018-11-15 21:46
#58
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Netherlands just3n 
every system is flawed
2018-11-15 21:55
but failing in its main purpose (choosing the will of the majority) should make this system useless. However, it is the system adopted by most countries.
2018-11-15 22:13
#77
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Netherlands just3n 
it's the power, or illusion thereof, of choice. People flock to it as it always has appeals. But the people initiating and practicing the idea of systems are what cause them to become flawed. The systems themselves would, in nature, work but fail in different aspects depending on leaders and choices of other systems. It isn't just democracy unfortunately
2018-11-15 22:29
Yes, and so are republics
2018-11-15 21:59
+1 people were lied to so they would sway their vote in favour of leaving. That alone should discredit the result. Plus it was only a fractional win for leaving. Such a big change shouldn't be decided by that.
2018-11-15 21:43
Should have said something BEFORE. Too late now. Oh wait you remoaners thought you were going to win. Oooops!!!!
2018-11-15 21:52
Where is the promised NHS money after #voteleave would come through? Oh I forgot, the men who had promised that backed away like a coward LUL
2018-11-15 21:56
People thought they would 'win' because they underestimated retards like you.
2018-11-15 22:41
Or they were overconfident cuz they are retarded themselves.
2018-11-15 22:55
If it's canceled, what's the point of democracy?
2018-11-15 21:44
#51
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France BadGones 
electing a fascist never been a brilliant idea
2018-11-15 21:52
NPC
2018-11-15 22:03
+1
2018-11-15 23:47
#101
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
How is it undemocratic to continue with this shitshow when according to all the polls I've seen the British public would now vote remain if given the chance? And if Leavers are so confident that they still have the confidence of the people, why are they scared to call another vote?
2018-11-15 23:14
People don't want a second vote because saying 'oh we lost, let's try that again' goes against the entire point of democracy
2018-11-15 23:48
#153
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United Kingdom HoRyzen 
Fuck me someone with some sense on this thread.
2018-11-16 01:22
and going through with plans that are not supported by a majority of the people is democratic? i call it stubbornness.
2018-11-16 13:04
#198
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
So apprantely giving people a vote is undemocratic. That basically sums up the leavers' intelligence levels.
2018-11-16 19:44
okay someone you don't like gets elected by majority vote, then boom another vote happens and someone you don't like is voted in my a new majority, does that seem fair to you?
2018-11-16 22:27
would there be another vote if remain had won? i think not. so no there should not be another vote. simples. :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) bo1 is a bo1. gg ez.
2018-11-16 22:30
#209
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
You really don't get it. We are not getting the Brexit that was promised, people's opinions have changed so we should have a revote. How can you not get the remain that is promised? We don't have to do anything. And Scotland voted remain in their independence vote but they'll probably have a new one soon for the same reasons I listed above. I'm not saying have a second vote because I want one for the sake of it, just because my choice lost. I'm saying it because the government have cocked it up and it will be worse for the country to leave. If it was the other way around I'd still be saying we should have a second vote.
2018-11-16 22:53
nt. people who voted leave, still want to leave. despite your anecdotal claims. nothing has changed. we didn't even leave yet so why should we ask the same question twice? time to respect democracy! leave means leave. not revote.
2018-11-16 23:28
#215
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
You really don't pay attention to the fucking news, do you? This isn't anecdotal. Open your eyes.
2018-11-16 23:35
sure sounds anecdotal to me. it doesn't matter. we had a vote. it took decades of campaigning to get it. and we never said we would have another one straight after to get the right outcome for one side. remoaners should learn to lose graciously.
2018-11-16 23:48
#225
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
You really, really don't get it. I don't want another vote for the good of one side, I want one for the good of the whole fucking country. How many times do I have to say this? Also maybe Brexiteers should learn to win without lying.
2018-11-17 00:24
no i get it, we said we would decide it with a vote. then the vote came and the remain camp decided we needed TWO votes to decide the matter. cuz you thought you only needed ONE vote to win and shut up all the brexiteers. "for the good of the country". cheeky cunt m8.
2018-11-17 00:39
#231
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
I didn't think we needed a new vote straight after, like a lot of people who wanted a new vote after like 2 weeks. Because I thought that maybe we could make this work. It's only the past week that I have truly realised "this is a fucking terrible idea" Imagine we were standing face to face right now. Could you look me in the eyes and say with 100% conviction that Brexit will be better for this county than staying in? If you say yes, you're no longer worth my time. If you say no I've won the argument. So yes, it is for the good of the country. You really have no clue what you're talking about. I bet you're the kind of person to say liberals are brainwashed lmao, wake the fuck up. (I'm not liberal btw) This was fun. Cya
2018-11-17 01:13
I can't speak with 100% conviction about anything in the future cuz I am not an oracle. But I still support Brexit cuz UK does not wanna go where the EU is going. All this talk about a second referendum is all BS. It happened and you lost. All it achieves is weakening the UK's hand cuz the EU thinks we will cave. But I guess that is the whole point.
2018-11-17 22:46
#61
BASiC | 
Macedonia Gombos_N 
eu is smth like ussr. yugoslavia 1 boss -> 50 countries to be honest, i dont know if it is good to be in eu or not ( im not informed well)
2018-11-15 21:59
#201
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Europe GH0STZ_97 
"im not informed well" you proved your point with that first sentence...
2018-11-16 20:49
i said what is it exactly. I dont know if that 1 boss is good or bad. Probably u understood what i said now
2018-11-17 01:10
#242
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Europe GH0STZ_97 
well, who is that one boss ? you dont know shit about politics
2018-11-17 17:54
#62
Snax | 
United Kingdom Masster3 
Brexit is a complete mess that's due to May and her incompetence. "Don't take no for an answer" as it happened many times in the history of the EU; they do not accept or make people vote again if the result is not what they wanted. In some cases they just ignored the referendum. Is that Democracy? The vote on Leave would have been much bigger if not for Labour to promise or rather threaten the elderly about NHS sanctions if Brexit would happen. Yes Brexit is a complete mess right now and it looks like it was all meant to be like this from the beginning; it was set up or They already have a deal ready under the table and what is being said publicly is just a scenario being written by Brussels, Raab and May.
2018-11-15 21:57
#78
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United Kingdom Bennn_ 
who the fuck cares
2018-11-15 22:30
#107
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
You should. I do.
2018-11-15 23:20
#195
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United Kingdom Bennn_ 
not gonna change anything mate still gonna end up living the same life regardless
2018-11-16 19:12
#196
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
Did hyperinflation not affect every German after ww1? Politics affects everyone's life. It's stupid to suggest otherwise.
2018-11-16 19:20
#204
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United Kingdom Bennn_ 
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
2018-11-16 21:48
#206
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
And that's the response of someone who can't actually come up with a decent argument
2018-11-16 22:09
#232
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United Kingdom Bennn_ 
zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
2018-11-17 11:31
We shoulda just stayed in the eu idk why dumbasses voted to leave just because of immigrants
2018-11-15 22:54
#154
ALEX | 
United Kingdom HoRyzen 
Should of stopped after 'idk why' because you clearly have no clue of factors of leaving the EU.
2018-11-16 01:23
#159
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Russia KS_areztiab 
he is a fakeflagger)) xaxaxaxaxa
2018-11-16 02:43
Lmao I just can't be bothered to write a full response since it's hltv and I'm kinda lazy.
2018-11-16 08:36
#197
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
If our previous conversations have proved anything, it's that you don't know that either.
2018-11-16 19:25
#200
ALEX | 
United Kingdom HoRyzen 
'im not replying anymore'
2018-11-16 20:45
#205
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United Kingdom Finnick519 
"I know I said I wouldn't reply but I saw this and I'm interested again"
2018-11-16 21:50
I think British people got "Trump'd" so hard and it shows now. Many people didn't know what the fuck they were doing when they voted or just did it "for fun" and now are faced with severe consequences, economy will stop growing because these transactions with EU members will slow down, the unemployment will grow because the companies that are EU dependent will make decisions either to relocate or make management changes, the pound will keep tumbling down and so on, it's a vicious cycle of events that were expected to happen since the beginning and the UK governors didn't care.
2018-11-15 23:05
In 2018 UK has its lowest unemployment figures ever and wages have just grown by their highest rate in 10 years. Is that what you meant when you said it shows now how wrong we were?
2018-11-15 23:15
If you aren't able to read, i said "will", pointing out what will happen in the future, Brexit deal is still not closed yet and you are technically still under the EU. I didn't say you didn't have low unemployment i'm just saying what will actually happen to you which is just easily predictable and that's why your people and even your parliament are all worrying about the potential chaos
2018-11-15 23:40
Maybe in the short term but after that who knows. Anyway civilisation was meant to collapse after we voted leave. People don't know anything.
2018-11-15 23:57
Obviously you can only go up after you have reached so low, that's also the story with Portugal recently with the 2008> crises. We are also growing now but trust me that an economic crises can have a severe impact in a country and they can last for years and years. That's why these Brexit negotiations are taking so long because UK politicians are worried that shit can go downhill from here, they are trying to leave the EU but still have fundamental EU policies and partnerships remain intact, basically combining what's best in their scenario, with a better control of the borders, better management of their finances used to fund EU + benefits of Europe's trading and commerce, the problem here is that the European parliament won't let you have the best of both worlds and that's why you see people calling this Brexit deal terrible and Theresa seem to not be doing a very good job.
2018-11-16 00:03
The Brit's gave up, it's a total surrender. With the deal they stay in the inner market of the eu ( with free immigration) for 2 years and keep paying and if they can't negotiate a trade deal with the EU in this time, they stay infinite with some kind of Norway status. This means they can't negotiate trade deals with any other country till they got the trade deal with the eu. And the best joke even after leaving inner market in 2 years (if they do so), they have to build a new boarder between Britain and northern Ireland so that there is no inner Irish boarder. Total surrender and all the EU had to do was to say "no cherries this time" Have you hear the story of checkers? I thought not, it's not a story May would tell you.
2018-11-16 00:19
They are leaving cuz the agreement is a soft Brexit. Should just be a hard Brexit + jettison Northern Ireland. Who wants to dance to Juncker's tune? MPs have to reject it in parliament now.
2018-11-16 00:23
What? You saying people only voted for Trump for shits and giggles and just memes?
2018-11-16 23:53
#97
allu | 
Finland Jodecast 
Sad when you let people that have no idea about anything vote on something that they vote with basic feelings, people are too easy to fool, let fucking people that know something, like economical changes that would happen etc do the thinking and deciding
2018-11-15 23:07
BREXIT>EU POLEXIT>EU >polexit >eu pick one
2018-11-15 23:08
EU economical form was captured as idea by Nazi regime economists Funk and Schacht
2018-11-15 23:16
Schacht was an economic genius. Can't say that about a greeko
2018-11-16 00:13
In this thread: People who do not realize the Brexit is only unfolding in such a catastrophic way because the British people/politicians kept refusing every deal made, and now you're all fucked. If you would've seperated from the EU as soon as the brexit was put into motion, this could've all been avoided. the UK will still be better off after it happens.
2018-11-15 23:34
You couldn't have separated as soon as it was put into motion, the quickest possible would be 2 years.
2018-11-15 23:47
#125
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Finland satkis 
Vote for leaving EU, whine about leaving EU
2018-11-15 23:54
#140
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France GAITS 
Typical British spoiled kids. France never wanted them to get in EU for this reason, they don't play the game they just want as much profits they can from EU and when they think they can have something better they betray you to suck another dick. When they entered EU they had a lot of conditions so we adapted to them, they wanted a lot of reforms in the 90 and now they want to leave after all the mess they did. And when they figure out that they gonna miss their candy they want to come back. So I hope EU will keep ruining their plans and dreams to teach them a good lesson and they end up being USA's bitch like they always were.
2018-11-16 00:29
If EU wants UK to stay why are Marxists like Juncker still president of the EU? Arrest Merkel and remove Juncker and we'll stay!
2018-11-16 00:01
#141
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France GAITS 
Marxist Juncker really ? Did he seized the big corporations to give you some shares of it and asked you to take control of your company ?
2018-11-16 00:30
You didn't know dear President Juncker worships Marx?
2018-11-16 00:51
#150
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France GAITS 
Maybe he read Das Kapital and liked the economic analysis but his policies are very far away from Marxism, quite the opposite actually
2018-11-16 00:59
Bailouts are Marxist. United States of Europe = Marxist.
2018-11-16 01:23
#157
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France GAITS 
Ok ok time to stop ketamine and irrigate your brain with some fresh water.
2018-11-16 01:29
Where is farage now? Or what was his name, he trash talked eu so much and people fall for what he was saying, sure many things he was saying were true, but he never thought what to do after brexit wins, which when brexit won he designated and said oh well my job is done. Rofl, so many lies about nhs and then happened what happened, UK had a good leader, ofc with brexit he didn't even want to try so it was fair for him to step down, after him you guys got only shit show.
2018-11-16 00:06
#143
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France GAITS 
Farage never thought a second about actually leaving EU, he didn't think people were stupid enough to follow his voice. He just wanted to have a large amount of voters so he can keep profiting from the political system while saying crap and doing nothing
2018-11-16 00:32
Well yeah might be true, but it's so shady saying so much bullshit and then in the end just leave, at that moment brexistans knew they got fucked up
2018-11-16 20:13
Raab is the greatest comedian ever: Says the brexit deal (aka British total surrender) does not keep the promises that the brexiters made during the election campaign and thus is a fraud to the voters. Jokes on him, these promises were the biggest lies ever. How outrages they could not be kept. Please fellow Brit's, go for the harsh brexit, then wonder why country runs like shit for the next 2 years, then vote little corby and vola, Europe's very own kuba. Just that the whores are ugly as fuck
2018-11-16 00:11
Better a poor Britain than a poor EUrabia.
2018-11-16 00:24
Can I remind you that 99% of your Muslim's came from your ex colonies and have never had anything to do with the EU? And that as not part of schengen, never needed to let some random asylumseekers into your country? Still your Muslim count reaches the same numbers as France or Germany. It's not Berlin or Paris, that is run by a Muslim. And Rotterham is still part of the UK after brexit.
2018-11-16 00:31
We saw which way the winds were blowing. Didn't the EU just sign the UN global migration compact? Didn't they want Turkey to join? Didn't Merkel allow millions of migrants to travel into Europe? And then try to force countries to resettle them?
2018-11-16 00:54
Fuck EU Fuck May Hard brexit now!!
2018-11-16 00:16
It's all a game, stop putting energy towards it.
2018-11-16 00:23
#144
flusha | 
Poland MBT_yt 
Polexit Germanexit Francexit Greecexit Europeanexit Ezexit Byexit
2018-11-16 00:33
The far right party in France actually wanted to do it, and to call it the "Frexit"
2018-11-16 00:55
You gotta go full America, plan a "terrorist attack" then kick down the doors of the EU with your Ar-15. Then you have a 10 year war with them. (This was a joke don't take it serious)
2018-11-16 01:19
2018-11-16 08:39
Nt am already on the watch list
2018-11-16 14:34
>wants all the benefits of the EU >Doesn't want to pay and be a member of the EU >Thinks it is possible for the prime-minister to make a good deal that would favor the EU. You're a fucking joke
2018-11-16 10:17
only the brexit favored media pretended like a good deal was possible. good example of fake news imo.
2018-11-16 13:03
#165
Zeus | 
Finland Olter 
Britain has been a meme since suez canal catastophe how would they know to do anything well haha
2018-11-16 10:27
well you had 2 years to turn back but you were too fucking stubborn, so now youre fucked
2018-11-16 13:02
have a BO3, no vote will easily pass
2018-11-16 13:02
shutcho bitch ass up
2018-11-16 13:03
the UK should fack off to NZ and Oz side of the world
2018-11-16 13:04
#179
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Denmark ZENNCS 
Bye UK, feelsfuckinggoodman
2018-11-16 13:08
Well I think GB didnt fully realize what BREXIT would implies. They were fully using EU without being totally part of it, which was truly benefical for them (can stay in commonwealth and EU, less tax, less import restriction, access to common market, access to service, can operate in Euros...). Now all of this could be on peril and some critical supplies could be missing/harder to get/expensive (by example Medicaments type insuline which are 100% imported from France). Plus it pose a big problem for countries like scotland which is using a lot of EU fundings for fishing and trades by sea roads. I think EU doesnt really need GB but the opposite is not true, this is why it is a very hard negociation for Britain as they have almost nothing to offer and a lot to loose... Sadly for them EU knows it and doesnt want to give any depart-gift (which is understandable from their point of view).
2018-11-16 13:52
who cares.. you still have royal inbreeds leeching off your taxes in 2018 and you complain about EU
2018-11-16 20:54
And we have election fraud happening but pretending that we are the most free country in the world.
2018-11-16 23:52
i don't care im not a effected united kingdom will be better on its own since they're a group of counties like eu and america
2018-11-16 23:30
#217
Snax | 
Europe Frasee 
we don't *actually* know whats in the deal though. It could just be scare mongering, equally though it could be shit, no one knows except the cabinet, may etc. Still a complete shambles and at this point I don't care if we leave or stay, I just want it to end
2018-11-16 23:44
it is a shit deal. it's a soft brexit. may will probably be voted out as PM after monday though. and we'll be back on track for hard brexit.
2018-11-16 23:46
#220
Snax | 
Europe Frasee 
yeah quite intrigued by the no confidence vote, hope it goes through fast. We need outta the EU to save our memes (but truely idgaf what happens, just want it to end now)
2018-11-16 23:51
How old are you mate?
2018-11-16 23:47
poland for poles england for englands and poles ))))))))))))))))
2018-11-16 23:52
poland without EU = poor
2018-11-17 00:30
faze fan lmaaaaaaaaaooooooooooooooooo
2018-11-17 13:03
1. Anti Brexit says "people didn't know what it involved" to justify a new referendum, yet they don't want to disclose what is in the deal right know. 2. A deal is bad for both side : - UK remain bond to EU rules without any possibilities to change it (since they can't vote for or against it anymore) just to stick in the custom union. - EU allow a former country to keep most of the benefit of EU (no custom taxes or limitations) without the downside of paying anything, accepting immigration rules, etc.. Creating a path for other countries to leave. Don't get me wrong I'm not pro hard brexit, this issue has downside for both parties as well. Either way this ding the bell of the dawn of "this" EU. And as member of one of the country which voted against the actual constitution, I'm glad of it. I'm pro united Europe, but not like it is now.
2018-11-16 23:54
i have a question to all the EU lovers. IF the EU was so great. why do they need to keep all EU members inside by threatening to take away things like membership of the single market or passport free travel? IF it was so great, you wouldn't need to blackmail people to make them stay.
2018-11-17 00:42
#237
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Europe deVulse 
+1
2018-11-17 13:33
Ask Hagrid
2018-11-17 11:42
#235
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Argentina sheshboi 
Benefits: border control.. a small mind you have
2018-11-17 13:07
#236
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Europe deVulse 
Brexit is a great move imo, i might actually start to respect brits.
2018-11-17 13:33
i dont get how smart people let uk leave eu. its beyond me
2018-11-17 15:58
Brexit is the British blunder of the century
2018-11-17 15:59
#244
NEO | 
Poland scrmgr 
yes, lets reperform referendum till u get satisfying result xd
2018-11-17 22:48
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