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cloud9 fix
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Netherlands NewPhoneWhozDis 
Cloud9 needs good awper Wardell is good awper Either -rush +Wardell or if they want to be an "NA" line-up again -flusha +Wardell
2018-11-16 19:57
Wardell denied an offer from C9 and just signed a long-term contract with Ghost.
2018-11-16 19:58
didn't know! well ghost is better than c9 now anyways but rip majors
2018-11-16 19:59
source? He would be dumb to do that...
2018-11-16 20:00
he is smart lol why would he go to a dying team
2018-11-16 20:01
ghost will never do anything, can be low tier 2 at max, in c9 he would be playing with players like autimatic, flusha.. and would get direct invite to prove himself in tier 1 scene
2018-11-16 20:02
yeah, c9's current roster has firepower but no leadership. still tho, ghost is better option for him. maybe he will get an invite from liquid
2018-11-16 20:04
No leadership?? Theyve golden who led fnatic to Katowice champion (imo the best tournament this year) , ofc theyve leadership now and liquid wont do any change, nitro is their IGL, wardell is a new talent that need to go directly to tier 1 team if he wants to have a chance to prove himself on the tier1 scene, dont see how ghost is a better option they will never do anything significant even if he goes god mode
2018-11-16 20:07
face it, katowice was a huge ass fluke, fazed choked really hard on that one leading to fnatic having some amazing individual performances which reminded 2015. by the way, cloud9 played versus ghost yesterday, and won both of those matches 16 14. but what suprised me, that they almost managed to lose having 14-1 first half lead. i know, your excuse is going to be they played with a coach, but this coach helps them develop strats and for sure i know, they ran some of them on that map. as you can see, t side results were fucking awful hence why cloud9 was and is one of the most shittiest led team by the way, i think liquid will make a move sooner or later if they will want to fix their choking problem, that's why i believe he will get an offer from them
2018-11-16 20:15
wow its only NA cs dude, no need to write so much about it, either way I think Liquid and C9 are better options for him than Ghost. indeed imo liquid need a change but I think theyre delusional about their strenght and wont make it anytime soon (imo TACO and nitro can be kicked without problem)
2018-11-16 20:18
they're better only because of financial side, nothing more
2018-11-16 20:19
ofc, and thats the only thing that matters + theyve WAY better chance to get invite to good tournaments thanks to their popularity and influence, way more room to grow for this player there
2018-11-16 20:22
and exit in groupstage which will lead in him losing his confidence. nah fam, i don't buy it
2018-11-16 20:22
bro are you serious?? playing tier 3 tournaments will never lead him to anything
2018-11-16 20:23
how do you know they will play only in t3 tourneys? xd they have a lot of potential, they're all young, they can have a breakout tourney at any time. if they will have a decent finish at dh atlanta, they might get an auto invite to next one + some organizers will see potential in them :>
2018-11-16 20:25
+ cloud9 overall have way better players, if he goes to that roster they would be way better than ghost is atm
2018-11-16 20:24
#26
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Israel Wetsss 
pls tell me how ghost is better then c9
2018-11-16 20:25
#13
2018-11-16 20:26
#31
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Israel Wetsss 
so basicly you are saying ghost is better then c9 because of some online game ? btw if ghost is better then c9 how tf can they lose 15 rounds in a row to c9? when ghost will perform at big lan then you can try to prove me something
2018-11-16 20:32
same goes for c9 lul idk how they can lose it. i was trying to prove my point that c9 has no leadership, only firepower, which will lead them MAYBE only to a fluke win :P
2018-11-16 20:34
#33
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Israel Wetsss 
ofc they have no leadership they are changing roasters every month,they dont even know if they are na or eu LOL
2018-11-16 20:36
that's an excuse and a half
2018-11-16 20:36
First of all, stop overusing the word "CHOKE" everytime a team loses to another in a final. Fnatic were better that tournament and we could see that during the entire tournament, not just one game. Btw they also won WESG this year. Fnatic were on the rise and could have done even better with that lineup but they decided to change players anyway. Golden was doing a good job as an IGL but they wanted to bring Xizt and switch things up, maybe personality wise outside of the game they were not happy. Second, you mentioned the online games of Ghost vs c9. How long has ghost played together with this lineup, quite some time right and we've seen them beating t1 teams or at least being competitive? c9 on the other hand had a recently joined new player and a stand-in coach and yet they won against a team that is by no means a bad team in fact a team that qualified for ESL quite convincingly. So I don't see why you call c9 a bad team at least for those wins. And btw, judging by your Guardian flair, I'm guessing you're a faze fan? If Faze loses to this shittiest led team at Blast Copenhagen then Faze really need to consider their options i guess? Faze firepower > c9 firepower & you said they have no proper leadership so faze should win easily but they lost.
2018-11-16 20:45
i used it the word because 3 or 4 players of faze heavily underperformed (they clearly couldn't even hit easiest shots). They were on the rise, but after last tournament that they've won (can't remember exactly which one it was) they lost in groups and everything went downhill, that's why they changed golden to xizt. second, has ghost even had a lan opportunity to play against a t1 competition? well yup, they won those online games only because of ct side and outperforming on firepower. And no, i am not faze fan, only a guardian, been following him since late 2015. Oh well, faze lost against c9, so what? xD faze is a up and down team. on a good day they can beat anyone when they are hitting their shots, on a bad one, they can lose to a teams like c9 in bo1s. they lack leadership, and i don't think niko is a good igl, AND to top all that they have an ex igl who is inconsistent af at doing his role in team ;?
2018-11-16 21:01
Most Faze grand final or semi final losses were not chokes except for the major final loss to c9 because they were up 15-11 and then lost, that's a choke or you can take the infamous liquid choke in 2016 vs LG at the MLG major a choke. You just don't change players just because you went out of groups in 1 tournament while completely forgetting the recent tournament wins and how well you've been performing lately. Fnatic were too dumb to make those changes and instantly regretted the decisions as we can see. "has ghost even had a lan opportunity to play against a t1 competition" Do you even follow cs? DH stockholm, i'm sure we can call it a t1 event. and summit 3 although not against t1 teams but decent to ok tier 2 and tier 3 teams were there so by no means they are an inexperienced team. I'm sick of people blaming Karrigan for not being consistent. Can you show me 1 other player in the Faze lineup except for Niko who has been consistent over the past 3 to 6 months? Claiming it to be the so called superstar team, they shouldn't even been needing Karrigan to frag, they should be able to . It is a team issue not an IGL or Karrigan issue. People just want to blame or point fingers at on player. Which is very PATHETIC!!
2018-11-16 22:02
#23
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Israel Wetsss 
ghost is a better option right now, but in a few months he will regret it, ghost has no future, i think cloud 9 will be back at the top soon
2018-11-16 20:24
+1
2018-11-16 20:24
Why would he join C9 when they are on the same page lol
2018-11-16 20:21
#18
2018-11-16 20:22
The page won't be the same in few months time. Ghost will stay where they are and c9 will keep getting better and better as they spend more and more time with this stable 5 men lineup. Then you can all blame him for extending this contract with ghost.
2018-11-16 20:49
#2
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Korea DadaDahyun 
you're an embarrassment
2018-11-16 19:58
wardell is a good awper that got a new contract with ghost
2018-11-16 19:58
Auti is awping now sorry.
2018-11-16 20:01
Dont want to ruin such a strong rifler because they want to get an actual awper
2018-11-16 20:02
#29
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Greenland iBalance 
+1
2018-11-16 20:26
#38
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Russia siD_ 
+1
2018-11-16 20:40
I think awping suits him really well. I like him on the awp more than the rifle now. Other 4 on the team are quite good riflers even golden has shown from time to time that he can be a good rifler. So rifling firepower is not a concern for c9 they have enough.
2018-11-16 20:52
#12
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Ukraine ksay 
give auti some time. he is doing fine with awp and c9 set with pretty good rifles. it can be device/s1mple case. those two are hybrids aswell
2018-11-16 20:08
agreed, give chance to auti for awp
2018-11-16 20:16
#17
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Portugal godrob1n 
+braxton swag pierce -any of the bots ez major w... oh wait. fuck you volvo
2018-11-16 20:19
#30
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Lithuania Makatas 
C9 is going to be better than ghost/nrg soon. Its obvious how much they are improving with golden and now they finally has complete lineup. Even flusha seems like he started to cheat again.
2018-11-16 20:31
#35
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Brazil on_you 
+1
2018-11-16 20:37
flag checks out
2018-11-16 20:38
#37
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Japan Anime_Prophet 
-kioshima +OCEAN -GOLDEN +ya boi dazed -flusha +nick bunyun
2018-11-16 20:38
#52
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World zebra_man3 
+nick bunyun +mcskillet
2018-11-16 22:08
Still think C9 should've grabbed lekro with golden. The dudes have played together for a while and worked well together and lekro would bring some firepower that C9 has been missing. I don't know the details of NiP getting Lekro so maybe it wasn't possible for C9 or NiP had a better offer but either way lekro would've been a solid upgrade in my opinion.
2018-11-16 20:53
Leave this lineup, its good. Its still really new but we have seen some great stuff from flusha and they great in blast pro
2018-11-16 20:54
#45
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United States Drude57 
I want flusha out with some other na player
2018-11-16 20:58
why?
2018-11-16 20:58
#48
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United States Drude57 
dont we have to play in eu with 3 eu players
2018-11-16 21:05
no clue. c9 will fuck em up in eu anyway
2018-11-16 21:46
no
2018-11-16 21:47
#44
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Spain Rekto_Plasm 
-rush will be the best way to destroy c9
2018-11-16 20:56
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