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steel from Ghost
ScreaM | 
Belgium GQHAN 
A smart guy. Very intelligent. A good interview. He was right about the french scene. I like him. Good luck dude!
2018-11-16 20:22
tldr?
2018-11-16 20:23
he said that frenchies need to swallow their egos and move with the times
2018-11-16 20:24
+300 French scene is dead
2018-11-16 20:25
Are you silly? Have you seen LDLC
2018-11-20 03:38
Only three Frenchmen though
2018-11-20 14:55
hurr durr tier 3 team beating other tier 3 teams FRENCH SCENE ALIVE!!!!!1
2018-11-21 07:21
Ain't happening! They'll recycle the same player over and over
2018-11-16 20:26
Exactly why they suck...recycle the same garbage. Stop excluding ScreaM and kio (or even young up and comers) bc we already know shuffling the same people suck.
2018-11-17 14:18
#97
NAF | 
United States Jammin800k 
Zywoo just got brought up g2 got 3dmax players. Kio is signed. Wtf do you want scream fanboy
2018-11-20 02:07
#98
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CIS ShimonSS 
zywoo wont win them t1 events sadly, g2 still cant trun down the egos, well, at least im happy for kio, now he dont have to play in toxic scene
2018-11-20 02:12
#99
NAF | 
United States Jammin800k 
I dont know, they could improve. You only have to be as good as mouz to win tier1 tournaments and get to finals. G2 just made changes and got role players and they can share the IGL role between shox and lucky. Shox and smithzz separating seems pretty healthy to me.
2018-11-20 02:17
#102
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CIS ShimonSS 
it took shox 2 years to understand that smithzz cant play, now how much does he need to get into crazy gameshape, thats required rn on t1 scene ? Does he have enough patience to work hard alongside with the team without any egoistic shit ?? Not sure, also as we have to count other players, as theyre the same
2018-11-20 03:04
Hes already been performing at a pretty high level if Kenny comes online and lucky and jackz prove to be worth the hype from fans and maniac then they could very well excel both rosters have top 10 potential
2018-11-20 03:10
I explained why they suck. I remember you Plastic fan spotted LOL band wagoner
2018-11-20 11:04
No you didnt you said they recycle the same garbage which they're obviously trying to get away from. How am I a bandwagoner when I've had the team flair since it was waterboys and they literally just formed? Ive been a fan of French CS for years and can confidently say g2 and vitality are my favorite teams. What are you even saying? Youre clearly just trying to detract from the original point by spouting nonsense.
2018-11-20 13:31
Nbk apex happy rpk are the same. They only win 95% of the time bc zywoo....bc guess what, the same garbage. G2 JUST and it’s not even confirmed are considering new people. You were a big g2 fanboy and then I’ve noticed you jumping ship always to the next winning french team. If zywoo moved to g2 and sixer filled in on vitality, you’d jump ship to G2 given your history lul. Deny all you want #plastic
2018-11-20 14:54
So what talent would you suggest they try out in the French scene that is up and coming, ready for the top level and superior to those players in the French scene? The only change on vitality I can think of that would be fully positive would be -happy +amanek. Also I could care less about what you think of my fandom, happy was one of my favorite players so I'd like to see him do well. Ive always like the Kenny apex duo and now it is split up. Shox is also amazing to watch and has one of the most intuitive and streakiest playstyles to watch so its really fun to see him when hes feeling it. At the same time NBK is also hugely underrated which you seem to also do. Their T sides looked great and with the individual talent on the CT side and some decent teamplay they can easily strive for a top 8 and potentially top 5 level. You say I'm a plastic fan but you're the one that wont even rep a flair for any of the French teams in what was one of their darkest years.
2018-11-20 18:03
I don’t rep Flair because I don’t take favorites. I try to look at things objectively. You on the other hand change your flair with the wind of the next winning French team.
2018-11-20 23:22
Yet I'm the one trying to advance the conversation and your the one who is stuck looking at flairs and deciding that "flairs mean you take favorites and aren't objective". I just tried being completely objective (as I usually am) and you completely disregard it and go for a bogus flair argument that can be debunked in seconds. You might need to rethink who is actually biased here.
2018-11-21 07:06
Says the one saying “see vitality included young blood and see how successful they are!” When vitality is a 1 man army with a bunch of washups being carried. You could not be a less objective person when you’re just a bandwagoner plain and simple and you can’t even see that lol soooo objective.
2018-11-21 11:10
When did I say that? They did what they needed to do in Atlanta to start to be considered decent after poor online results. You're the one who cant answer a s1mple question. Who else should join vitality or surround zywoo in order to form a t1 french team? Really just seems like you're trying to shittalk french CS and me rather than actually have a conversation. That's fine but... it's not objective that's for sure
2018-11-21 11:23
#3
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Korea DadaDahyun 
steel's always right man
2018-11-16 20:23
if steel wasnt banned i think he could have been on a top NA team like C9 or Liquid
2018-11-16 20:23
#12
ScreaM | 
Belgium GQHAN 
I think the same. Deserved to be an IGL in Cloud9 for example.
2018-11-16 20:26
#49
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Germany VeryFlaMezGuy 
the whole lineup could have been an easy top 1 contender (for NA ofc) if they would have sticked together and would have played the whole time
2018-11-17 11:45
#55
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Turkey rusty james 
i agree but sorta disagree as well. he is a hard guy to get along with. so if he is not having fun playing with a player he usually dont or if he does it wont work in the end. so lets say he was on liquid instead of nitr0. he could ve had problems iwth how to run his team with zews(Stan had that problem and was the main reason he got cut) or that he doesnt like how naf plays or how twistz plays too passive and he forces him to play more aggro etc. so if he werent banned i think he would ve gotten multiple chances to get onto a top team but either he would cut the stars like msl did or just leave on his own to make his own team. never forget this guy unretired his old source buddies before he got banned and they were really close to making it to invite/epl. so as long as he is having fun and like to play with his teammates its alright.
2018-11-17 12:27
#65
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Netherlands pewpeww 
I think it is DaZed who would have been the great IGL of an NA team, not steel.
2018-11-17 12:37
#70
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Italy marxie 
Lmao
2018-11-17 12:55
wrong
2018-11-17 18:02
#89
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Sweden Dino1 
This. I like Steel and his really good. But Steel was the weakest link of ibp (seems like people are forgetting that) Dazed was the one doing the work. People forget how good he was.
2018-11-17 18:21
Skadoodle>swag=dazed>steel>azk
2018-11-20 02:22
Imagine: Steel Wardell moose Twistzz NAF Canada top1 😊
2018-11-17 12:40
Just twistz and NAF is Canada top1 the other three don’t matter lmao
2018-11-17 18:11
I meant that if this was the actual lineup then Canada top1 of the world, not just the national top1 lol
2018-11-17 18:48
wardell best awp in na after cerq
2018-11-20 02:20
Only ibp member thats worth anything Good guy he is the only one who deserves an unban
2018-11-16 20:24
#18
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
none of them deserve an unban, they're idiots.
2018-11-16 20:32
Steel has atleast shown that he regrets his mistakes i still believe if he ever gets on the best team in the world valve would have to unban him otherwise their majors would become a joke
2018-11-16 20:33
#26
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
all of them regret their mistake, because they want to be unbanned and realise what a dumb decision it was now. Steel will never be on a top level team because this is the only team he's had any success in since 2014. Wardell and Koosta are just making him look like a good IGL while hard carrying. I haven't seen much impressive in terms of strats, but their defaults look alright
2018-11-16 20:36
#33
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Canada NMX_ 
The root cause of their mistake was due to the horrendous salaries the squad had. If I were them I would have threw the match for money just to keep myself afloat especially since throwing matches were never said to be prohibited by valve somehow.
2018-11-16 20:53
#36
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
Bad salary isn’t an excuse. I understand they had their reasons, but when you are costing others money because of your bad decisions, that’s when it goes over the line imo
2018-11-16 23:35
#41
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Canada NMX_ 
There are literally people in impoverished places like many countries in Africa where they steal items simply because they are so poor they cant even buy a can of soda. Most people would try to get money by whatever means possible (scamming, stealing, hell even gambling) to keep them afloat rather than playing the angel while being financially worse than not stealing any money or possessions. Not everyone can deviate from that and accept that they just cannot be financially supported anymore. The main point is that most of the people involved have learned from their mistakes and sought out to never throw such a game ever again (important game like MiBR VS Ghost or irrelevant game like Ghost VS Blackout) to make a quick buck and have even sought out ways to forgive themselves. Even so, the salaries in NA are more than enough to defeat the purpose match fixing is bringing to the table. All Valve has to do is give these players a second chance as they have strongly proved themselves that they WILL never do such a thing like that again and unlike before, have proof as to those players being "reformed" against TOP tier teams and tier 2 or tier 3 teams alike where match fixing becomes more common and more of an issue.
2018-11-17 08:02
#60
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Turkey rusty james 
bad salary? they didnt have a salary back then. it wasnt dumb to throw the match as well lets not get all high and mighty. it was a pretty smart move. the dumb part is they didnt really planned it well and that they had the spotlights on them because english speaking language. hence high profile. local scenes dont have that because nobody knows their language. 2- moral factors; nobody gave a fuck. it was a cevo match which they already qualified for the lan. teams, tournament organizers were all making bank because of csgolounge. csgolounge was making bank as well. a huge bank. meanwhile these guys were not on salaries, they get constantly DDOSd while putting huge amounts of time to the game. there were no governing bodies. this is not lol and riot where the developer is always hands on approach. virtus pro also tried to steal frm their fans by betting on a match they knew the outcome to(it was pre recorded) smithz played posing as his girlfriend on a girl match. there were other instances. cis teams and chinese teams threew all the time but we dont know russian and chinese. anyway everybody were making bank from these guys apart them. the only thing they got from ibp was new rigs and plane tickets for tournaments. also there werent many tournaments and prize pool were like 50k and majors were 250k. they didnt deserve the perma ban.
2018-11-17 12:33
Agree. The ban should be lifted and valve should release something stating if it ever happens again, cheating also, then perma ban, no excuses no compromise
2018-11-17 18:16
#88
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Turkey rusty james 
i dont think valve will ever lift the ban. my only hope is they dont extend the ban to a possible new cs title if that ever happens. swag might go for it and he is young enoough and steel wont mind as long as he gets to play seeing his gamestyle has got nothing to do with age and is purely driven by motivation. dazed azk dboorn are all fucked tho
2018-11-17 18:19
#114
nak | 
Canada tabar_nak 
smithzz did WHAT now?
2018-11-21 07:16
lol ex6 fan talking hypocrite
2018-11-17 11:35
#46
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
How is it hypocritical? Just because I'm a fan of ex6tenz doesnt mean that I think he's an amazing IGL right now. Ex6tenz also didnt scam others and commit fraud.
2018-11-17 11:37
#63
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Turkey rusty james 
we dont really know that there are many matches verygames and titan played that were heaily under suspicion. also smithz did play ina match that was listed on lounge pretedig to be his girlfriend. he also played with a cheater. yes he might not know he was a cheater but they were all from source apart from kqly and kio. and kqly came onto the scene real quick and they all thought he was cheating before he got banned. (kio also cleaned his inventory after kqly and sf got banned super suspicious)
2018-11-17 12:36
#69
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
I'm not here to witch hunt players who are, in my eyes, innocent until proven otherwise. Steel was caught committing fraud and is paying the price for it, saying he doesn't deserve it is just wrong and completely devalues Counter Strike as a sport
2018-11-17 12:51
and saying he does not deserve to be unbanned is like saying dont let someone out of prison ever for stealing just 2k dollars its completely ridiculous
2018-11-17 13:04
#78
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
No it's like saying that someone who stole £2000 isn't allowed back into the place he robbed. Which is completely plausible. What has Steel done to deserve being unbanned apart from being toxic in the community?
2018-11-17 16:10
hey man, fuck you for owning me :(
2018-11-20 00:51
#30
ScreaM | 
Belgium GQHAN 
Dude stop it. He didn't kill anyone. He made a mistake but he paid for it. Did u never do the mistake? Everyone deserves a second chance.
2018-11-16 20:41
#35
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
I don’t really care, he comitted fraud. If being banned from majors is the only price he has to pay for that then he can consider himself lucky
2018-11-16 23:33
#40
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Lithuania dozzah 
for a cs player that's the worse punishment you could get.
2018-11-16 23:41
#42
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
he could have been perma banned from the game, which he isnt
2018-11-17 11:29
#51
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Lithuania dozzah 
he essentially is though, he can never achieve the thing every player strives for, so there’s no point in him playing further
2018-11-17 12:21
#52
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
He’s literally making a decent salary playing CS while playing alongside a new world talent in Wardell, after committing fraud that’s a pretty good deal
2018-11-17 12:22
#56
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Lithuania dozzah 
money isn’t the deciding factor though, it’s being remembered, and the only thing the ibp guys will be remembered for is throwing
2018-11-17 12:27
#57
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
How is that not deserved? They did throw and this is the consequence. When you’re ripping off other people for their hard earned money you forfeit any deserved respect
2018-11-17 12:29
#61
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Lithuania dozzah 
don’t bet anything you’re not prepared to lose. im not defending the ibp guys, they deserved a punishment for what they did, but destroying someone’s dream and not letting them atone for it is unfair
2018-11-17 12:34
#62
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
So is stealing other people’s money
2018-11-17 12:35
He is developing all the new talent and playing the game he loves for money, the reason he threw in the first place lmao.
2018-11-17 18:18
#64
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Turkey rusty james 
he didnt commit fraud. the skins dont have monetary value. their worth is what people pay for them. there were no governing bodies or rules. it wasnt a regulated thing.
2018-11-17 12:37
#67
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
"wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain." - He threw a match which is wrongful deception, and he did it to result in financial gain.
2018-11-17 12:43
you have problems man
2018-11-17 13:05
#74
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
How?
2018-11-17 13:13
#115
nak | 
Canada tabar_nak 
ultimate backseat judge
2018-11-21 07:17
shut up uk brain, valve gave matchfixing dota 2 players 12 months ban, why cant they be treated the same?????????????
2018-11-17 13:03
#7
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Switzerland codplayer 
he is a very good igl. can get almost all teams to a very good level.
2018-11-16 20:24
#53
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
He’s only got 1 team anywhere close as an IGL, and that’s Ghost. Dazed was the main caller for IBP
2018-11-17 12:23
#79
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Switzerland codplayer 
on his last team with swag etc he also did a good job.
2018-11-17 17:06
#80
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United Kingdom Dimwit 
No he didn’t, they completely flopped
2018-11-17 18:00
#8
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Finland TRICKASSBUSTAH 
Sick after game interview yeah
2018-11-16 20:25
He drop fkin true there boys
2018-11-16 20:25
#11
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France Xda308 
Steel didn't understand why kennyS got triggered by his speech. kennyS got triggered because Steel "seemed" disrespectful against him (I don't remember it completely but either Steel trashtalked too much or either kennyS misunderstood the term 'jack!ss' but still, what he said was right and kennyS acknowledged it). Even with this, Steel continued to be toxic and this interview shows again how right he can be, but also how idiot and toxic he can be too (and kennyS is not in Vitality). However, what he said (besides his "sound" effects and co) was mostly right. (I also don't believe NBK- explanation on why they are playing badly. Steel most likely said it all, even though he seems a bit too much confident).
2018-11-16 20:29
#116
nak | 
Canada tabar_nak 
steel has some kind of social dysfunction or something. it’s almost as if he genuinely doesn’t see why or how his words can affect people sometimes, i think. that said, kenny overreacted too much because steel was a little too correct on his criticism. he hit a soft spot
2018-11-21 07:19
#14
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Funny how they left steel out when ibp got unbanned(daze swag azk) and he is currently only one on a decent team. Brax n swole May have a chance to be alright but not as good as ghost.
2018-11-16 20:28
#17
ScreaM | 
Belgium GQHAN 
Dude I don't know what is happening with swag... He should be the star of SP but sometimes he's just bottom of the table. Definitely too often.
2018-11-16 20:31
#24
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United States Trump2020KAG 
No motivation I think. Still banned from majors so top tier teams won’t pick him up. RIP young dumb throw career ending move.
2018-11-16 20:35
#27
ScreaM | 
Belgium GQHAN 
Fuck this. I really like him. He could be one of the best players of the world... So sad. Wasted talent. Fuck VOLVO.
2018-11-16 20:38
he is a convicted MATCHFIXER!!
2018-11-16 20:28
#25
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Iceland Iceland 
And how does that have anything to do with what op said??
2018-11-16 20:35
Hmm...
2018-11-16 20:39
+1
2018-11-16 20:29
you must be new to the scene
2018-11-16 20:32
#23
ScreaM | 
Belgium GQHAN 
I'm on the scene when NiP was playing vs Area51 (or something) and vs VeryGames. That is practically from the very beginning
2018-11-16 20:34
so Im right
2018-11-16 20:45
#32
ScreaM | 
Belgium GQHAN 
I don't think so.
2018-11-16 20:45
does anyone have link for the interview?
2018-11-16 20:33
+1
2018-11-16 20:33
#29
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United States IFisico 
just wait for the links on the match page
2018-11-16 20:40
+2
2018-11-16 20:55
Agreed. Very intelligent guy, I'm glad his mental health is better now and he's feeling happy.
2018-11-16 23:38
> smart guy > lifetime banned for throwing game for pixels
2018-11-16 23:40
#45
JW | 
Sweden Yupp17 
Yupp pixels worth thousands of dollars
2018-11-17 11:36
not really. wasnt that much as far as i remember
2018-11-17 11:43
#75
valde | 
Brazil 643 
2k dollars if i'm not mistaken
2018-11-17 13:19
#117
nak | 
Canada tabar_nak 
17 asiimovs back then, i think it was approx. $1500
2018-11-21 07:20
clip plx
2018-11-17 11:32
I'd like to see him in better team, but I doubt it's possible until he has a ban...
2018-11-17 11:42
He's toxic af.
2018-11-17 11:50
steel > dazed
2018-11-17 12:24
#59
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Belarus @Bitly 
Steel better IGL making mid-round calls etc. Dazed is better analyst/coach in my opinion.
2018-11-17 12:32
#58
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Belarus @Bitly 
He's decent IGL.
2018-11-17 12:31
Link?
2018-11-17 12:46
#76
valde | 
Brazil 643 
"He is decent" what the fuck? Anyone who can beat navi on lan with subroza, koosta and khrystal deserves more than just "decent"
2018-11-17 13:21
#82
s0m | 
Norway goodguyme 
steel has allways been a smart guy, but as we all know the past years he cudent show it cuz off his ban :p i allways belived dazed and steel whoud be great if they where unbanned but it took a long ass time for them to be unnbaned. and dazed quit so ;(
2018-11-17 18:08
#91
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Denmark pistolen 
But not unbanned from everything right?
2018-11-17 19:14
#94
s0m | 
Norway goodguyme 
no they are not unbanned from majors but esl and dreamhack unbanned them
2018-11-17 23:25
could be on or create best NA team if he wasnt banned. real shame
2018-11-17 18:10
why does he give a shit about the french scene
2018-11-17 18:14
because NA scene is also dead. nowadays there's only EU scene ( astralis scene )
2018-11-17 19:17
why doesn't he talk about the uk scene ? he used to live/play in it. why doesn't he talk about the german scene ? why doesn't he talk about brazil scene which was starting to turn into what the french scene has been like ?
2018-11-17 19:40
because french scene always looked promising with tons of raw talent but tons of bitches aswell
2018-11-18 14:11
#119
nak | 
Canada tabar_nak 
imagine seeing a gold mine (french scene after g2 and envyus went to shit). you see a bunch of miners (drama starters like shox and nbk) trying to dig out gold nuggets with fucking toothpicks. SO much potential to make a single consistent top5 team but so much childish bullshit from the players preventing it. i’d imagine anyone would be pissed, the french scene for the past year has essentially just been godsent/fnatic levels of fucky lunacy
2018-11-21 07:23
#104
ALEX | 
Spain ezivnisi 
yes an a juden scammer
2018-11-20 03:25
#107
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Germany SL3ID3R 
2018-11-20 11:10
#122
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Brazil Collee 
interview link pls
2018-11-21 11:12
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