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delusional Xyp9x fans
GeT_RiGhT | 
Germany d0mmel 
"Clutch Minister" doesn't even have the most clutches 2018 (big events) nor the best clutch difference hltv.org/stats/players/clutches/4954/1on.. hltv.org/stats/players/clutches/7998/1on.. #s1mpleTop1
2018-11-16 21:05
They are not delusional. They probabaly think that way because Astralis are never usually put in a clutch situation.
2018-11-16 21:06
#33
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Turkey SLendeRuLeZ 
Nah, if you look better at the stats you'll see that Xyp9x have few more 1vX(3+) clutches than s1mple but this is not the main thing which makes this player shine, If you look at the clutch rounds of Xyp9x you'll see that they are either in match point rounds or overtimes (when more tension is involved). S1mple wins way more 1v1 and 1v2 than Xyp9x simply outaiming everyone but xyp9x outplays them.
2018-11-16 21:19
#50
Xyp9x | 
Brazil Jeanzera 
Perfect, you finished this topic, Xyp9x god.
2018-11-16 21:27
i mean if you put all time big event u will see hude diffrence:) idc about 2018 only look at whole career then talk
2018-11-16 21:40
he is overrated af lol same with gla1ve
2018-11-16 21:07
+1 and they also cheat
2018-11-16 21:08
+23232
2018-11-16 21:11
+1 Mibr never won against Big lul reformed?
2018-11-21 22:05
mibr biggest trash to ever touch counterstrike
2018-11-22 20:15
+1 and they also pay off all tournament organizers to allow them to cheat at lans
2018-11-16 21:20
how can they be overrated and cheat you retards
2018-11-16 22:43
flair checks out
2018-11-17 00:20
not an argument moron
2018-11-21 21:54
flair checks out
2018-11-21 22:03
#112
2018-11-21 22:18
#115
2018-11-22 00:58
#3
floppy | 
Belgium TeRiKy 
He has not most clutches but he always delivers when needed Your just an ignorant fuck
2018-11-16 21:07
that's why he has a worse clutch difference? Cuz he "always" delivers?
2018-11-16 21:08
Xyp9x vs s1mple is not a fair comparison. Astralis always wreck Navi tho. Xyp9x wins clutches by smart plays, game sense etc. S1mple is more raw aim ability combined with gamesense, thats the difference. Xyp steps up in very cruisial rounds mostly. Not a fan of any off them, just facts.
2018-11-16 21:14
No doubt about that, but I think it's fair to say, that s1mple steps up when needed as well
2018-11-16 21:16
Yeah i agree. Only thing that holds s1mple back atm is to show up in grand/semi finals when its so close. I mean he paves the way for navi in bo1,groupstage, quarter finals etc when he usually goes quiet and chokes in finals. Zeus, edward and flamie is mostly consistent in finals when s1mple and electronic goes a bit quiet. They just need to get more experience and confident in finals.
2018-11-16 21:29
Have to agree He is very consistent, but the most important finals, major one for example, he probably feels the pressure too much
2018-11-16 21:31
#82
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Europe HLTV70IQforum 
So he has worse clutch stats than the best player in the world? wow good to know, who would've thought it's only s1mple after all... you know he has better clutch stats than everyone else on his team, and even better clutch stats than NiKo? That's 2 out of 3 of the best players of 2018 (dev1ce, NiKo) that he has better clutch stats from. Guess you didn't read the stats right
2018-11-16 21:44
Don't know what that has to do with the argument I started but okay
2018-11-16 21:46
Go look at his stats, he still have +KDA in the finals, he's not playing as ''Terminator''-ish as in groupstage etc, but he's not Cokeing(as in playing bad) on the other hand, go look at flamie and edward =P
2018-11-16 21:37
Thats what i mean. He is not the s1mple beast he usually is in finals cuz of nervs, confidence and all that. Sometimes he has negative rating,mostly even or positive rating, edward and zeus have been stepping it up lately in finals though.
2018-11-16 22:35
Im talking about the astralis vs navi final from the major (i believe it was)
2018-11-16 23:12
Correct. S1mple was playing very poorly for his standard that final, no one was really showing up from na'vi tho. hltv.org/matches/2326427/natus-vincere-v..
2018-11-16 23:34
"when needed", 2 conditions were given
2018-11-16 21:21
I mean, if you lose all your clutches except like 3 a year that win you 3 games, you're not really a good clutcher tbh This is an extrem example, obviously xyp9x is really really good, but I think you know what I mean
2018-11-16 21:24
I do, but you just can't compare s1mple and X9p. They have different playstyle, different role, different mindset. NaVi relies on S1mple and Electronic to win the rounds (clutch if needed). Astralis relies on everyone. S1mple obviously is the best, but his incredible amount of won clutches is because of the space he gets from his team. X9p doesn't get so much space + he reads his opponents perfectly = known for clutches.
2018-11-16 21:29
I think he is so well known for his clutches, because the casters always hype it up. s1mple clutches way more quiet I feel like
2018-11-16 21:32
You're right. But casters can't hype every single round (joke based on truth). But you can hype 1 of 30.
2018-11-16 21:33
I would love to have 2014-2016 casting back, where the hype was build up and only exploded after a won situation and not like it is rn. where every "normal" kill gets hyped so much for now reason
2018-11-16 21:36
Good times back then, but it's not about the passion for the game anymore. It's about money... sad.
2018-11-16 21:40
Just so painful to see this game go down like this.. also the facebook streams and stuff like that don't really help either lol
2018-11-16 21:41
Don't even mention the FB streams... want to puke everytime from that.
2018-11-16 21:43
+1 If the iconic duo of navi: s1mple and electronic is having a bad day and missing their shots its pretty much gg against t1 teams.
2018-11-16 21:33
thats pretty much navi's problem rn edward is playing decent, but flamie is just absend for a couple of months now
2018-11-16 21:34
Have you seen the match with Kane standing-in for Electronic? When you team misses 49% of firepower ...
2018-11-16 21:34
Yep Kane 0-19, almost got 1 frag but unluko 😂
2018-11-16 22:36
I was hoping for that frag with MP9... but unluko...
2018-11-16 22:38
#104
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Germany Fabbsen 
I totally agree. Both are good in their aspects and s1mple clutching a lot too doesn't make Xyp9x clutches unhappen or degrade them
2018-11-16 23:05
Well said
2018-11-16 23:11
#37
s1 | 
Ukraine mple 
Your just an prick
2018-11-16 21:21
s1mple is a better clutcher but when xyp9x clutches you can see all his iq
2018-11-16 21:07
+1
2018-11-16 21:09
Does that really matter? If you are the smartest player, but your aim is just to shit to win the most clutches, what does it do for you?
2018-11-16 21:10
idk s1mple top 1 2018
2018-11-16 21:12
#103
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Germany Fabbsen 
He won't do the sickest flicks in clutches but his aim is just perfect like a robot most of the times in these situations
2018-11-16 23:04
#5
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United States Drude57 
no
2018-11-16 21:08
#8
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Chile hyveur 
but xyp9x has 1v5, s1mple no :)
2018-11-16 21:09
Not in 2018, but s1mple atleast has a proper 1v5, not a ninja defuse
2018-11-16 21:10
you dont care that s1mple said see ya in hell germans? xD
2018-11-16 21:14
Not really, not even a BIG fan. shittalking while beeing barely top 10 isn't wise
2018-11-16 21:16
it has nothing to do with big tho he said it 2 years ago when big werent even created
2018-11-16 21:17
oh didn't even know he said that, thought it was about the s1mple/smooya thing
2018-11-16 21:17
lul xd I think alot of people don't even know what "sieg heil" means..
2018-11-16 21:19
Just s1mple things, clutch minister still solid clutcher tho.
2018-11-16 21:10
No doubt in that, 2nd best statistics overall speaks for itself
2018-11-16 21:11
also simple clutches against tier20 - Xyp9x does it against simple!
2018-11-16 21:11
Don't know about that, I don't think there is a huge difference between them
2018-11-16 21:13
Go check top5 filter even there s1mple better
2018-11-21 21:59
#18
boss | 
Cambodia THEBO$$ 
Xyp9x has more clutches a in 1v2 1v3 situations against top5 teams.
2018-11-16 21:12
True true, thanks for hinting that, didn't look it up that carefully
2018-11-16 21:15
Yeah when you win rounds with 4 ppl alive most of the time your clutch stats won’t looks as good
2018-11-16 21:12
Doesn't change win percentage at all
2018-11-16 21:14
The percentage not, but the amount of them for sure
2018-11-16 21:23
Amount of what?
2018-11-16 21:24
#117
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Belgium 69Savage 
You literally said that he “doesn’t have the most clutches” as an argument in your thread. I’m sure s1mple gets put in a clutch situation far more often than Xyp9x due to their respective teams.
2018-11-21 22:05
OMEGALUL p1mple always baiting teammates, most of these 'clutches' are just trade kills
2018-11-16 21:16
+gazillion
2018-11-17 00:59
#29
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Canada thelegend27 
wtf is a clutch minister? a religious csgo player?
2018-11-16 21:17
xyp9x new nickname
2018-11-16 21:18
Its what the casters call him 😂
2018-11-16 21:35
#88
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Canada thelegend27 
zip nine ecks
2018-11-16 21:56
#35
s1 | 
Ukraine mple 
Wait, why is s1mple's gamewinning clutch against Astralis from Blast not listed? I changed the dropdown to LAN and it still doesn't show up.
2018-11-16 21:20
Probably delayed happens sometimes, same with xyp9x 1v5 against north, that took some time to be updated aswell
2018-11-16 21:22
#47
s1 | 
Ukraine mple 
What's funny is that it was a clutch against xyp9x, just to rub the salt deep into the wound
2018-11-16 21:25
loool
2018-11-16 21:26
it is shown in xyp9x page that he lost it but doesnt show that s1mple won it
2018-11-16 22:41
#devicetop1_2018 #ez4astralis #denmark_cs_top_tier_cs #device_best_awper_2k18
2018-11-16 21:21
hltv thinks otherwise lul strawpoll.me/16857073/r
2018-11-16 21:23
They dumb. see ya in top 20
2018-11-16 21:41
#43
shox | 
Norway fen0m 
xyp9x is a really smart player, but s1mple is still better in every aspect in my opinion
2018-11-16 21:23
Don't know how people still doubt he isn't top 1 of 2018 Every single one of his stats are just so much above average, kinda like olof in 2015
2018-11-16 21:25
you havent watched his matches then he seriously is so good at clutching its just unbelievable to watch
2018-11-16 21:27
I did, and he is an amazing clutcher But I just looked up the stats for 2018 and saw, that he isn't top 1 in clutches, which suprised me actually But I think s1mple is just way more quiet in cluitch situations, cuz the casters don't hype it so much like xyp9x for example
2018-11-16 21:29
It's because you're dumb. I already told you most of these 'clutches' are trade kills. You would know if you had actually seen the matches.
2018-11-16 21:30
why aren't other teams setting it up like that as well? Because it's impossible to set someone up to win a clutch, it just happens in chaos most of the time. and the better player will come out on top in those situations
2018-11-16 21:37
yeah that could be true but i still think that xpe9x always clutched the most important rounds that impacts the game, unlike when s1mple clutches it also helps that astralis play more in each tournament than navi does, since, you know, astralis almost always win tournaments lets say theres a situation where s1mple clutches a 1v4, for a moment its great and all, but it doesnt matter anyways if navi loses the map in the end if xpe9x clutches the round it will often lead astralis winning the map but i think the most important detail is that xpe9x always trys to play smart, unlike s1mple who wins clutches because of individual skill, because quite often you see xpe9x win rounds that are impossible, but with s1mple u always feel he has a >50% chance
2018-11-16 21:40
But there are so many other factores that contribute that Astralis' money management for example when xyp9x clutch leads to an opponents weak buy or something like that Those kinda scenarios bring astralis so far ahead in games
2018-11-16 21:42
thats the thing tho i think that xpe9x clutches seem more impactful and important then s1mple's is because astralis overall is a smart team when xp9x's wins, astralis just know what to do in the next round, thats why you dont want to let the guy win when s1mple clutches, you dont feel like the match is over right away, because you can still exploit navi's weaknesses (for example, find o n what bombsite zeus and edward play and then just execute and win the round) Of course there are way more small and big factors that decide who is a better clutcher, but to me it feels like xpe9x is the better clutcher because his clutches actually benefit his teammates
2018-11-16 21:53
#51
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Ukraine MrUkraine 
Xyp9x always tries to play smart to increase his winning possibility and simple tries to win because of his individual skill
2018-11-16 21:28
But what's better? Winning the round or playing smart and losing?
2018-11-16 21:30
#58
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Ukraine MrUkraine 
he wins in very important situations so. Idk about you but when I see xyp9x in 1vX situations I always confident is the positive result
2018-11-16 21:32
I felt like that as well, before I looked up the stats I was actually a bit shocked that his clutch difference isn't higher
2018-11-16 21:33
#102
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Indonesia linekerrr 
That's because he's been renowned for his clutches since years while being an anchor player (who generally has to retake more often than not). You also have to consider that good aim is associated with confidence, while s1mple, niko, etc. as 'star' players are set up for frags and thus the team 'builds' up confidence for these star players throughout (imo) . It's much more impressive to see xyp clutch without that luxury(as a support & anchor player). There isn't a player who can consistently clutch like him, while there are many whose 'clutchstyle' is the same as s1mple's
2018-11-16 22:56
#63
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Denmark pistolen 
Best team in the world with 5 shit players if you ask HLTV. That's a great achievement and clearly show us how stupid all the tier2 teams with their star players are since they can't claim anything with them.
2018-11-16 21:33
I actually don't even understand how astralis makes it work so well You just have to appreciate the work they put into practice of teamwork And you can very clearly see the results. they are probably the most discipline team in history
2018-11-16 21:39
lol ofc s1mple>xyp9x but xyp9x>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>dev1ce
2018-11-16 21:38
+10000
2018-11-16 21:40
Not an Astralis fan but cmon bruh just because they call him that doesn't mean they think he is the best in history. It's just a nickname relax.
2018-11-16 21:39
well known fact that he is considered the best clutch playre in the world rn
2018-11-16 21:47
#79
NBK- | 
France uria64 
xyp9x_2_majors_s1mple_0_major
2018-11-16 21:42
thank for letting me know, didn't know that
2018-11-16 21:47
You s1mple fanboys are getting more and more pathetic every day. ""Clutch Minister" doesn't even have the most clutches 2018 (big events)" Ok let's see only big events in 2018, but against top5 team, so we remove the clutches against korean/chinese/NA fodder teams, shall we? hltv.org/stats/leaderboards?startDate=20.. Oh look, Xyp9x it's first Now let's take a look at most clutches at majors history hltv.org/stats/leaderboards?startDate=al.. Oh look, Xyp9x it's first again, how weird!
2018-11-16 21:46
Now compare map count of xyp9x and s1mple S1mple ez best clutch per round
2018-11-21 22:01
s1mple is a fucking god
2018-11-16 22:36
#92
jokes | 
Brazil on_you 
Xyp's clutches are more impactful I guess
2018-11-16 22:38
8 y.o s1mplul fan /close
2018-11-16 22:41
#98
Brollan | 
World mbata 
Xaxaxxaaxaxaa ( I suck stuff and choke on it, thats the reason I don’t use H like any sane person
2018-11-16 22:44
#99
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Norway NibbaDamn 
You obviously dont have a brain.
2018-11-16 22:45
it's cause he can crab walk the entire round and still be unspotted next to the planter with the drop on the other 2 post plant positions. everytime. I think it is magnets or something
2018-11-16 22:50
#101
Xyp9x | 
Colombia Shingy 
"Statistics are like mini-skirts, shows a lot of things but does not show what is essentially" - Alex Ferguson One should look at how the clutchs is made.
2018-11-16 22:53
xypyx only lost 1on1s. he won when it mattered. Still s1mple is more talented overall.
2018-11-16 23:09
most overrated guy right now i would say
2018-11-17 00:22
When people talk about clutches, they usually talk about 1vx with x>1. And in that regard Xyp9x and s1mple basicaly have the same stats, with a slight edge for Xyp9x.
2018-11-21 22:12
Clutches last 6 months. 1 vs 1 Xyp: 20-6 = 14 Simple: 15-7 = 8 The rest of 1 vs x they have the same stats. Xyp was named clutchministre like 3-4 months ago for the first time based on his performance in crutial situations.. Therefore look at his performance the past 6 months. Also Xyp dont have boosted his stats from easier opponents as much as Simple. Like half of his cluthes comes from Gambit, Avengars, Ence and Tyloo matches. Most of Xyp’s comes against Faze, Liquid and fnatic
2018-11-21 22:44
#121
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United States Nellie^ 
Filter by LAN and all time, xyp9x is +92 and s1mple is +46
2018-11-21 23:38
#123
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Australia Hythrex 
Bait9x
2018-11-22 01:00
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