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Zywoo?
forsaken | 
Greece FireMM 
I am a bit disappointed so far Maybe because I'm used to KennyS and his lighting fast reactions, but I just feel like Zywoo might have been overselled. He is good, but not that monster that people talk about. Time will tell I guess
2018-11-18 20:54
#1
floppy | 
Belgium TeRiKy 
yeah cause kenny in last 2 years was better then simple and device combined
2018-11-18 20:56
KappaRoss
2018-11-18 20:57
than* and KappaRoss
2018-11-18 21:03
KappaRoss
2018-11-18 21:48
#61
floppy | 
Belgium TeRiKy 
KappaRoss
2018-11-18 21:59
#76
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Philippines legbreaker 
KappaRoss
2018-11-18 22:12
KappaRoss
2018-11-19 08:20
#2
forsaken | 
Greece FireMM 
I mean KennyS has not be consistent etc. but was still a beast during his (rare) peaks S1mple & devve are really fast as well. But I guess Zywoo has a different playstyle
2018-11-18 20:57
#16
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Finland istop1 
they are not as fast just playing smarter and better
2018-11-18 21:07
Mmmh, S1mple is reallyyy close tho
2018-11-18 21:18
#28
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Finland istop1 
yeah but especially device is not known for being fast
2018-11-18 21:39
Sure, I agree :)
2018-11-18 21:41
? He is know for having a fast reaction time. There is a clip of him flicking a dude 0.3 seconds after seeing him
2018-11-18 22:08
wtf thats not fast
2018-11-18 22:11
Check the clip. Youtube "device fast flick" and you'll see that there are other factors to take into account. Not saying he is the fastest and that he'll do that shot consistently, but he generally reacts pretty fast in my opinion
2018-11-18 22:15
#96
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Germany Fabbsen 
i assume you mean this? youtube.com/watch?v=BtSLIF9kz7c
2018-11-19 00:22
#97
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Germany Fabbsen 
youtube.com/watch?v=BtSLIF9kz7c ofc its not fast :D but tbh thats a once in a lifetime flick
2018-11-19 00:22
having a 0.2 ms VISUAL reaction to something (As in just clicking your mouse) is already crazy fast. Including a movement like a flick makes 0.3 crazy fast. Visual registration, movement of the flick and hitting the shot is pretty fkin nutty
2018-11-19 12:02
#62
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Romania Ganlock 
ZyWoo weapon of choice is ak not awp, he AWPs cuz no one else is able to do it as good as him.
2018-11-18 22:03
kennyS was kicked from verygames and look who is he rn. Its his first big lan and he is doing well
2018-11-18 20:57
#5
shox | 
Poland neverbait 
hes playing awp like an idiot lol how he get 10 kills idl
2018-11-18 20:58
kennys sucks, get over it, zywoo is way better on both the rifle and the awp, were not in 2014
2018-11-18 20:58
#10
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Portugal Djidji1993 
+1
2018-11-18 21:03
#17
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Finland istop1 
2017 kenny was very good
2018-11-18 21:07
No
2018-11-19 08:21
Yes?
2018-11-19 08:27
#7
forsaken | 
Greece FireMM 
Then again guys, I did not wanted to make the KennyS apology or to say Zywoo was a bad player I just said that he was not THAT good yet ;)
2018-11-18 20:59
#8
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France Fran6k1D 
zywoo choking, good but so far bad
2018-11-18 21:02
Zywoo top #20 soon
2018-11-18 21:03
#12
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Poland ILikeILike 
on showmatch he was good, in real matches.......................
2018-11-18 21:05
Did you see him against complexity
2018-11-19 00:56
#116
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Poland ILikeILike 
yes, i take my words back
2018-11-19 10:35
I hope Happy and NBK can train him well. And teach him structure and sutff
2018-11-19 15:47
#13
zet | 
Other delmaszm 
i feel like Zywoo as an main AWP is a waste, he should be a rifle he has great aim
2018-11-18 21:06
get kennys in this team and give zywoo ak and win every single game.
2018-11-18 21:05
#25
shox | 
India iejesus 
+1
2018-11-18 21:30
#29
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Finland istop1 
+1 -happy,rpk +kenny,shox
2018-11-18 21:40
#64
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Romania Ganlock 
shox will just kill another team and nbk/apex wont play with him due to french politics
2018-11-18 22:04
#65
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Finland istop1 
they have fixed shit between the players before
2018-11-18 22:05
He is still young, NBK said in hins interview that he is mechanically very good, but has to work on his positioning and decision making. He'll grow into a very good player
2018-11-18 21:05
#18
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United Kingdom de_bait 
keep in mind this team is dogshit, they are trying to play loose style but they dont have faze players, zywoo looks good tho
2018-11-18 21:09
#19
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Sweden j9mply 
I still dont understand why he awps, I've watched a shit ton of his FPL games and he basically only awps on CT train and mirage. I feel like someone who wants to be a primary awper would do it alot more. His rifles are way more insane.
2018-11-18 21:12
#21
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Italy steven513 
He's not a primary awper, he's a hybrid awper like the old device,
2018-11-18 21:19
#22
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Portugal Dafp 
+1
2018-11-18 21:20
Like G2 with NBK...can’t win without KennyS carrying them. Vitality/NBK can’t win if zywoo doesn’t carry them every game. LOL trashed by NA.
2018-11-18 21:27
#24
Poland hqs- 
dude he is better than kennys with every weapon. u know why kennys doesnt play like he did 2013/2014 because there was awp update and it was bad for snipers. u may think kennys will someday play like he used to but not.
2018-11-18 21:30
Kennys very inconsistent zywoo is a more skilled player than him who has the potential to become a consistent player and not cry everytime a round dosent go his way
2018-11-18 21:33
If you can, watch KennyS very first international lan. You will see that he was not the monster you talked about. Same for device, s1mple, etc.. At his experience, this lan is already a success for Zywoo : he is able to stand his role of carry in this team. It could be better, and will probably be but enough already for his first abroad tournament. Also, remember that Zywoo is not a sniper per say, unlike KennyS. He got this role because he is the best with it in his current and past team. That's all.
2018-11-18 21:37
Yeah didn't realized I was not a "natural" sniper, ty :)
2018-11-18 21:41
+1 also he did only averagely good during the start of the tournament because he was nervous imo. soon after he got used to the crowd and environment and he "woke up", since then he was unstoppable
2018-11-19 03:09
#30
ZELIN | 
Portugal Cyborgy 
you guys are very demanding,the dude is banging in this tournament you expect him to do 1.50 rating?jesus cs community this day
2018-11-18 21:40
#84
ZELIN | 
Portugal Cyborgy 
well,he hasn ow 1.50 rating LULD
2018-11-18 23:10
#33
Xyp9x | 
Portugal CRMN1 
zywoo and kenny are two different players. kenny was known for his insanely fast reactions and flicks, whereas he wasn't a complete player, at least not like zywoo. zywoo has a way stronger positioning, that's why he doesn't flick too often, because he usually knows where to peek and where he's gonna be peeked. also, zywoo is a ton stronger with the rifle than kenny. I understand your point, flicks are fascinating, but zywoo is also extremely effective, although in a much different way. although he's not as flashy and too skilled, he's getting the job done. check his numbers this tournament.
2018-11-18 21:44
Completely agree on that bro I was just expecting Zywoo to be just a tiny bit "flashier" but he shines in his own way, which is nice to see :)
2018-11-18 21:44
#40
Xyp9x | 
Portugal CRMN1 
Maybe, being flashy is good for the viewers, but not necessarily the best. For example, kenny gets a flick here and needs to reposition for the next kill, dies. Zywoo gets a simple shot here, but his positioning allows him to get the second kill. More effective yet less shiny. That's why s1mple has way too many fans in this community, but he makes it work with effectiveness which is why he's the best.
2018-11-18 21:48
Yeah sure, looks like you try to convince me but I already agree on that point hahaha
2018-11-18 21:49
#45
Xyp9x | 
Portugal CRMN1 
I don't wanna convince you, just wanted to extend my opinion haha
2018-11-18 21:50
Oh :) 27-4 now on train btw, he got titled by my threat hahaha
2018-11-18 21:51
#100
Xyp9x | 
Portugal CRMN1 
Dude this thread did notttttt age well lol
2018-11-19 00:35
#42
Xyp9x | 
Portugal CRMN1 
BTW, as I type my reply, I check the game and he's 24-4 with 170 ADR going on to HT. That's mad good bro =D
2018-11-18 21:49
Yeah hahaha maybe he is not that confortable on D2 ? Cause it was banned from competitive mappool during most of his "grind" in FPL ?
2018-11-18 21:50
#50
Xyp9x | 
Portugal CRMN1 
Maybe, nobody knows... Train is also a perfect map for awpers on ct side, let's see how he does second half.
2018-11-18 21:51
And for my bad, he is way better on train (which makes me really happy :) ) Mb first international lan + pressure + not confortable on D2 cause not that played on Faceit / FPL until recently ?
2018-11-18 21:43
19-3 11 round
2018-11-18 21:44
#37
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France ZinedineZywoo 
Go check his stats so far and comeback
2018-11-18 21:46
Bro, I know the guy. Played with him a long time ago, watching the scene alot. My only point is that I saw his destroy his oppenents with super fast flicks and stuff so many time in FPL, I was expecting him to be a bit flashier in lan It's not a critique, I'm not saying he is bad. Just said on D2 he was not that good, on a map which usually allows skilled players to shine ;)
2018-11-18 21:49
#47
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France ZinedineZywoo 
So you are making this whole thread because he was not hiting insane flicks on d2?
2018-11-18 21:50
Well, from the beginning of this tournament I was'nt that impressed with him. Looks like he is starting to let the pressure off, which I am glad to see! I'm not a Zywoo hater, I just made this thread to point out that he was not as flashy as in FPL for example Which is understandable given the context
2018-11-18 21:53
disappointed? its his first decent lan, in new team and he has 1.31 rating...the next one from his team is nbk with 1.19 and its actually the second highest rating from all players this event just slightly behind hen1 with 1.33. what did you expect? 1.80 rating...?
2018-11-18 21:47
#46
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France arioneleven 
Go watch train my friend
2018-11-18 21:50
This aged well
2018-11-18 21:50
#54
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France theJpay 
Are you the real Binet from 1pvcs ?
2018-11-18 21:51
y
2018-11-18 22:03
#67
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France LanaRhoades 
Eh bah qu'est-ce que tu cast mal , va prendre des cours parce que nous on est obligés de regarder les streams anglais. C'est pas pour rien que sur LoL y'a 40k viewer sur les streams fr et sur cs y'a que 10k et encore c'est si y'a une team fr en finale
2018-11-18 22:06
#72
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Croatia worstplaya 
Jcomprends pas y a moins d'audience sur une finale de coupe du monde de foot sur tf1 que de handball
2018-11-18 22:10
#85
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France LanaRhoades 
Y'a + de viewers pour une finale de major que pour une finale de worlds (sur twitch) , y'a 90k sur les stream fr ALORS QUE Y'A 0 FRANÇAIS QUI JOUENT
2018-11-18 23:12
#110
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Croatia worstplaya 
Tu te rends bien compte que ca marche pas comme ça les stats ? La france est un pays de casu et lol son jeu préféré, regarde les streams dota en france y a personne dessus et y a bien moins de joueurs fr que sur cs alors que pourtant sur steam dota c'est x2 joueurs ? Et oglol a implosé en meme temps que lol pr le public fr continuellement depuis x années, t'as pas besoin du même niveau anglais/connaissances pour comprendre un stream cs vs lol.. vu que cs c'est que de la hype, les explications sont super simples a capter etc.. et ca tombe bien quel pays est bidon en anglais ? Bref continues avec tes critiques facile en réponse sur hltv, eslfr pour moi était le meilleur cast fr depuis longtemps sur cs mais pourtant ca a jamais fait les chiffres d'oglol non plus :)
2018-11-19 08:17
+1
2018-11-19 15:51
#73
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France theJpay 
Please, shut up :)
2018-11-18 22:10
Ca roule Jean random
2018-11-18 22:11
#79
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France ABxel 
Binet is love Binet is life <3
2018-11-18 22:17
#86
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France LanaRhoades 
Tu veux pas te remettre en question mdr , zuper et xtqzzz sont juste 1000x au dessus que 1PV , vous avez des voix de merde déja pourquoi vous faites ce métier
2018-11-18 23:13
Tas le droit de préférer qui tu veux, chacun ces goûts. Hf sur les stream inter ^^
2018-11-18 23:49
hope you are watching train game. kid is insane.
2018-11-18 21:51
#52
NBK- | 
France uria64 
27 bombs LUL
2018-11-18 21:51
#53
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Sweden X-rAy 
just new french cheats on
2018-11-18 21:51
+1 id have to agree
2018-11-18 23:14
Hahahahaha +23 in a half hahaha
2018-11-18 21:52
Wtf ZywOo doesn't even respect them anymore
2018-11-18 21:52
#57
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Turkey Mannequinare 
this really aged well lol
2018-11-18 21:52
Well this second map prove you wrong?
2018-11-18 21:52
Definitely
2018-11-18 21:53
#66
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Portugal buba46 
ZywOo top 1 ez
2018-11-18 22:05
#68
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Czech Republic QuertyX 
You can tell when Zywoo rifles and awps lmao Zywoo is such a fantastic rifler, just get kenny to do awping and youve got ez pz wins
2018-11-18 22:07
#69
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France Azowel 
We have to wait for know who is the better :)
2018-11-18 22:07
#70
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France julien13700 
the guy who created this post. stfu zywoo just dropped 31 kills little pussy
2018-11-18 22:08
Nice try JasonR
2018-11-18 22:19
ZywOo is good. He needs time and experience. But people declining kennyS make me laugh. Motivated kenny is still the beast and we saw it at the startup of G2's current line-up. Then he lost his motivation because his team can't play as well as they should be. Only kenny and shox can't carry the whole team.
2018-11-18 22:13
100% agree. All that talk about Kenny being washed up, my ass. Truly great players can maintain their ability to come back from slumps. He didn't look amazing in 2016 (partially because he was unmotivated aswell), and look what happened in 2017, where for my money he was the best AWPer of the year. I will say though that him being "easily" demotivated is an issue in of itself, that should not happen, which is my one and only critique against Kenny. I fully believe that he'll come back, though.
2018-11-18 23:22
not only that, but it takes a special someone to carry 3 deadweight bots on a team. You can't pull through matches all by yourself, sometimes your team mates might get a kill won't make you confident like 2015 kennys. I have a feeling he will be trapped in a shitty french team again, zywoo will shine in these coming years, hes the french s1mple. Shox thinks his team can tactically win games, you can't win games when you don't know how to shoot. If it was 2014, when shox and kennys were both prime, then it would be possible, but at the moment they are not looking so how, with the addiction of 2 bots.
2018-11-19 03:20
Agree here: "I will say though that him being "easily" demotivated is an issue in of itself, that should not happen, which is my one and only critique against Kenny. I fully believe that he'll come back, though." But if G2 realizes the necessary changes they need, pick the players they should (better late then never) and kenny gains his motivation, the team will really have the chance to get back to the top level. I agree with you that kenny easily lost his motivation but as you said the great players always come back and that beast we all remember still is there inside him + shox is getting into the great form. 3 decent players with good aim under a good leadership can change the game. They have to pick ScreaM and one young but talented player. That will be enough.
2018-11-19 13:16
#80
NBK- | 
France uria64 
nt zywoo haters
2018-11-18 22:18
''Time will tell I guess'' Well, it just did
2018-11-18 22:18
The fuck you talking about mate who else has 1.41 rating past 3 months?!
2018-11-18 22:21
#88
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France PowwneD 
nobody, even s1mple haven't those kind of stats
2018-11-18 23:16
Dude you cant compare who is s1mple playing against and who is zwyoo
2018-11-18 23:17
#90
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France PowwneD 
ZywOo first LAN, we will see that in some times just wait
2018-11-18 23:18
Tier3 lan
2018-11-18 23:19
#92
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France PowwneD 
First Lan for this team, they will not beggining by winning a major lmao
2018-11-18 23:19
s1mple didn't have these stats when he was playing shit teams
2018-11-19 00:23
S1mple has almost never played ''shit teams'' for a longer amount of time. Don't compare Zywoo with s1mple yet, it's far too early. Yes, Zywoo is extremely good, but it's not yet comparable with the best player of all time in CSGO. S1mple was 16 years old, played for hellraisers, a big underdog team, and carried them versus the best team of all time in counterstrike global offensive, fnatic, on LAN. That's in my opinion way more impressive than smashing a team when you're the overdog, even though he played insanely good. And that's just one example. Again, Zywoo is very good, I'm not denying that.
2018-11-19 00:33
for the longer part of his career s1mple was carrying tier 3 teams against tier 3 teams also i don't think vitality is the overdog given that all the other french players barely broke positive K/D i agree that s1mple is 100% the best ever for now, but I would put zywoo above everyone else already
2018-11-19 00:57
hltv.org/stats/players/matches/7998/s1mp.. Bullshit. He was playing versus top tier opposition almost the second he got into the competitive scene. He wasn't facing top tier opposition all the time, but very often, and back in 2014, no team played versus the best teams all the time pretty much. So what you're saying is bullshit, get your facts straight. Vitality was the overdog for sure, not by much, but if they get rolling and get momentum in a tournament like this one, they'll smash anyone except for maybe Ghost.
2018-11-19 01:55
Overrated
2018-11-19 00:09
kennyS is overrated
2018-11-19 00:41
If you are still disappointed after the full tournament then you don't know what you want. The guy played amazingly in both the last 2 series (._.')
2018-11-19 01:55
+41
2018-11-19 03:14
First big LAN, probably gets MVP, 18 years old, wins it... yeah very disappointed in this zywoo kid
2018-11-19 03:29
No MVP for that event
2018-11-19 08:24
He is MVP, they gave him the trophy.
2018-11-19 08:38
There's no HLTV mvp for the event hence him being dh mvp wont be displayed as a career-achievement.
2018-11-19 11:34
hard to really tell where any of them are at right now... this was a Tier 4 event
2018-11-19 10:41
#119
Cud | 
World word_exe 
WTF are you even talking about? Are you watching the same guy play?
2018-11-19 11:51
#122
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Sweden ThorinEk 
uhm, mvp of first lan tournament in attendence you say you are not impressed mate?
2018-11-19 13:18
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