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s1mple | 
Ukraine vodkaslayer 
No he is not, its not even close S1mple is clearly the best player in 2018 S1mple vs device hltv.org/stats/players/compare/7998/s1mp.. Just look at that impact difference Also look how many diffrent stats S1mple is #1 at he is even #1 at clutches even more than Xyp9x hltv.org/stats/leaderboards?startDate=20.. Astralis is the best team in the world but S1mple have way better stats in everything pretty much in a worse team Astralis > Na'Vi S1mple > device If HLTV puts device at #1 this site is 100% rigged even all castats say S1mple is best player in the world and probably best player of all time in any Counter-Strike game <3
2018-11-18 21:19
Casters*
2018-11-18 21:21
#2
s1 | 
Ukraine mple 
+1
2018-11-18 21:20
#3
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Ukraine livebox 
its obvious, 90% hltv users know this so why u made this topic?
2018-11-18 21:21
Not really many Astralis fanboys and S1mple haters that think device will be #1
2018-11-18 21:22
you said it yourself, only people that think dev1ce is top 1 are people with an opinion that doesnt matter
2018-11-18 21:25
But its a lot of them and im trying to change their opinion with facts
2018-11-18 21:25
you cant change their opinion, theyre just biased kids that dont even know what facts stand for
2018-11-18 21:27
true
2018-11-18 21:32
DEVICE #1
2018-11-18 22:23
In your fantasy world without S1mple maybe
2018-11-18 22:24
I agree, S1mple is individually better than dev1ce. But u have to count event wind and MVP medals. Even though S1mple has got a handful of MVP medals na’vi has not won that many events. So. S1mple > dev1ce individually dev1ce > S1mple Events/Team oerformance
2018-11-18 21:28
Its player vs player and not player+team S1mple have so much better stats and the K/D difference is so fucking huge and S1mple have won like 4-5 events have have like 5 MVP's , you can look at 2016-2017 for S1mple he did not win anything or any MVP's at all almost and he got really high ranks now he have won events many MVP's and MUCH better stats
2018-11-18 21:31
#57
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Denmark MeToxi 
Only idiot plasticfans is saying that dev1ce is nr. 1 in 2018. It is clearly s1mple and luckily hltv isn't rigged so s1mple will be nr. 1 in 2018 player rankings. It's not only embarrasing for themselves but it is also embarrasing for dev1ce that he has those plasticfans denying all logic of s1mple being nr. 1.
2018-11-18 21:51
+1 respect
2018-11-18 21:54
wow a non delusional astralis fan I are impressed
2018-11-18 22:30
#123
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Lithuania entyzan 
i are agree mr hotdog
2018-11-18 22:33
#5
s1mple | 
Denmark Almoe 
has to be trolls or just genuine morons who say devvice is #1
2018-11-18 21:22
+1 Finally a Dane that has a brain, good to know.
2018-11-18 21:26
#12
D0cC | 
Denmark retro95 
If i had the power to vote for either, i wouldn't know which one to vote on. Their playstyles are very different. s1mple has some amazing plays, peaks and clutches. device on the other hand is a really great teamplayer and plays the passive AWP role perfectly.
2018-11-18 21:26
Just shows that you are delusinal no offence but its clear that S1mple is better in pretty much everything his stats is so much better in everything in a worse team , device have a amazing team under him and i dont think device would have the same stats as he do in Astralis if he played for a worse team like FaZe or Mousesports but S1mple have always been playing for badish teams and still plays like a god
2018-11-18 21:29
#16
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Kazakhstan Apfund 
flag checks out
2018-11-18 21:28
you know its true
2018-11-18 21:31
Wtf I hate Dennis now
2018-11-18 21:29
Simple baiting his teammates every match to boost stats This reminds me of the Messi/Ronaldo debate Simple/Messi are clearly best, but theres more to it for some people. Tournament wins.
2018-11-18 21:31
Okey now explain why he have highest Impact Clutches Opening kill rating ( almost only Chrisj have some more kills )
2018-11-18 21:33
Read my comment again 3rd worlder
2018-11-18 21:35
I did but my comment make you look like a idiot
2018-11-18 21:37
You make yourself look like an idiot. An idiot. Not 'a idiot', you uneducated retard.
2018-11-18 21:39
nice try with the bait
2018-11-18 21:39
Unfortunately I can't say 'nice try' to you. You're simply dumb as fuck.
2018-11-18 21:39
haha its really sad that there is people like you with strong opinons like that and needs to get angry like a 10 year old kid
2018-11-18 21:41
I pity you, I'm not angry with you. I don't have any reason to be. You're irrelevant in every way possible.
2018-11-18 21:42
haha nope you are, you say he is a baiter when he have every stat that makes you not a baiter like opening kills and so on + he clutches the rounds to win them aswell + he have by far highest impact rating by far higher than device Sad kid
2018-11-18 21:44
Clutches can simply be trades, you didn't even think about that, did you? You're really dumb. Impact by baiting teammates. Opening kills even chrisj is better lmao, again you failed but you probably didn't even realize. I guess it's just your lack of education showing.
2018-11-18 21:50
So clear that you dont even watch the events when you say that xD And now you make fun of ChrisJ like wtf okey Chrisj still have better opening kill rating than device aswell
2018-11-18 21:54
Try again, but this time write in English.
2018-11-18 21:53
so bad baiter
2018-11-18 21:55
#133
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Lithuania entyzan 
its sad when u have to play a grammar nazi card
2018-11-18 22:40
Yeah, it's much better just calling another user for 'a idiot', right?
2018-11-18 22:42
football =/= cs s1mple is clearly way better than dev1ce, the only reason dev1ce is even mentioned as a top 1 player is because astralis have so good damn good teamplay. If devve didnt have a great team, he wouldnt be in the mention as the top 1 player in the world. s1mple is playing like a god with a way way way worse team which device wouldnt be capable of
2018-11-18 21:35
Messi is clearly way better than Ronaldo, the only reason Ronaldo is even mentioned as a top 1 player is because Real Madrid have so good damn good teamplay. If Ronaldo didnt have a great team, he wouldnt be in the mention as the top 1 player in the world.
2018-11-18 21:36
stfu up about you shitty football you qivitoq talk cs or get the fuck out of this forum
2018-11-18 21:37
Get out of my face beta nerd, you can't even speak proper English. I really hope you're fakeflagging, or else you are clearly one of the dumb kids in our country.
2018-11-18 21:38
oh shit i missed an R now i must be stupid duuuuh lmao youre clearly the fakeflagger here, as you dont even respond to my Greenlandic comment you clearly are stupid as fucking, coming to a cs forum trying to talk about messi and ronaldo, who no one gives a fuck about. Your logic is even fucking shit, your argument is that messi is clearly way better, well i think that ronaldo is way better than ronaldo. See? your argument is shit and invalid, theres nothing clever that i can respond, so that we can have a discussion, which shouldnt even be about messi and ronaldo, but s1mple and devicee fucking loser
2018-11-18 21:42
No, your communication skills are generally amusing, but not in the way you'd hope for. Of course I'm fake flagging kid, I literally just wrote it. You have no understanding of football, so you should probably leave it be and instead focus on your education. It seems like you're way behind. It's tragic considering our national education system provides you with all the necessary tools. Your comments are probably just the result of your lack of cognitive abilities. Blame your parents, blame society, I don't really give a fuck.
2018-11-18 21:48
again, what youre saying has no output, its stupid and theres no way that i can answer with an argument that could give us a discussion that would interest both of us. youre just trying to state facts, which are all wrong, all of your arguments are stupid and doesnt even make sense, you dont know me, or anything about me, yet you think you do. like its just stupid whatever youre trying to get out of this, just stupid. your arguments are worse than a 9 year old kid, learn to have a discussion, where both parties are interested and have something to comment on, and give valid answer. you clearly cant give a good argument for me to answer to, and you cant answer to what im saying
2018-11-18 21:53
+1
2018-11-18 21:56
You're too dumb to understand a simple anology, not my fault. You can't write proper English without making several mistakes, probably not your own fault though. I mean, you're the product of a thimble deep gene pool, too much moonshine and a condom used twice after being turned inside-out to a cousins-party. It's not your fault your parents share the same blood line.
2018-11-18 21:57
wtf are you talking about? whats the output? whats the meaning? what do you get and what do you want out of this. Its just so fucking stupid everything you say
2018-11-18 21:59
Didn't I tell you once - get out of my face, nerd.
2018-11-18 22:01
lmao youre the idiot here trynna talk shit when im trying to have a discussion with clearly a really stupid kid. i guess i should have ignored you before as its a huge waste of time trying to have a discussion with a dumbfuck kid.
2018-11-18 22:03
You wouldn't know what a discussion was even if you had Albert Einstein to explain it to you. Just imagine... your dad managed to create a plague for a whole generation in just 30 seconds. Your mom should have swallowed you, plain and simple.
2018-11-18 22:04
lmao its just pure shit youre talking. clearly its kid talking, as theres no output, no reasonable comments. it sounds like im playing COD again and all theese toxic kids scream in the mic, lmao
2018-11-18 22:06
It's what you are - a kid. Now get out of my face nerd. I can't be bothered wasting time on a teenager with low cognitive abilities.
2018-11-18 22:06
nice words dude, you should be proud
2018-11-18 22:07
You should be worried about your lack of intelligence.
2018-11-18 22:08
#83
zonic | 
Denmark KrynexCS 
you literally got baited by some autistic retard who cares about grammar and takes the discussion away from cs
2018-11-18 22:06
like im not enjoying myself with this
2018-11-18 22:07
#89
zonic | 
Denmark KrynexCS 
haha keep on feeding him then, he probably wanks off to this ;)
2018-11-18 22:07
oh im sure he does, gotta give that poor bastard something to life for
2018-11-18 22:10
#27
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Europe p1peb0mb 
stopped reading at best player of all time
2018-11-18 21:33
He have MUCH higher stats than any #1 player in CSGO and its 2018 now and not 2013 its only GTR that had same/better stats in 2013 but again that is 2013 But for me f0rest is GOAT all of CS but i can see S1mple take that spot with more years he is still really young and hungry
2018-11-18 21:37
#39
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Europe p1peb0mb 
he has the best peak for any player in cs history. but he not the best of all time. f0rest,gtr and many more are above s1mple in all time best list. even device who never reached top 1 is his career is above him because he was a top 5 player for last 4 years in a row.
2018-11-18 21:41
device is not even close... he have always been playing in good teams and been the player they play around S1mple have been playing for so bad teams all of CSGO and always been playing like god only reason he did not get higher ranks is because his teams never did anything and even then he got high rank in 2016-2017
2018-11-18 21:42
#46
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Europe p1peb0mb 
the difference is that the is all time best list. it takes not just individual performance. it takes achivemets,consistancy,performance and many more. s1mple has the highest peak for in terms of individual performance.on other categories he is not there yet.
2018-11-18 21:45
But if you reach this level its hard to ignore his stats, so much better than any1 have done before at this kind of level but i agree with you i dont think he GOAT yet i think that is f0rest and S1mple clearly needs more years but some casters and so on have said S1mple is the GOAT in term of skills as the most skilled player or whatever
2018-11-18 21:49
#59
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Europe p1peb0mb 
he is the most skilled player event. no doubt. but is not reached that bet of all time or GOAT level just like NiKo.They will reach that place by next year end or in 2020. They have skill and performance and they haven't achived that much with it.
2018-11-18 21:52
+1
2018-11-18 21:40
s1mple deserves but dev1ce will be 1.
2018-11-18 21:41
This site is done for if that happens , stats says everything , casters and so on say S1mple is best player + he won best esport player of the year
2018-11-18 21:46
y
2018-11-18 21:51
i agree s1mple should be #1 by a landslide, but hltv like to put MVPs and tournament wins over individual skill
2018-11-18 22:04
Mosly but the gap between #1 #2 this year in term of stats is so much higher than the years before like lets take 2017 coldzera and NiKo had pretty much same stats but coldzera more MVP's and wins but now in 2018 S1mple have by far better stats + 5 MVP's aswell like device but device have more Tier 1 but still
2018-11-18 22:07
s1mple was #8 last year with players like rain over him, and i think we can all agree that rain was not close to s1mple in 2017. but rain had a way better team, and won more, therefore he was put higher than a player who was actually better than him, just like why i think device would be #1 even though it should be s1mple
2018-11-18 22:09
I think rain was the best player going into 2018 , he was the main reason why FaZe was so fucking insane and dominant and he won 2 MVP's in the end aswell S1mple had almost no games at big events in 2017 and not that insane of stats like he does in 2018
2018-11-18 22:11
no offcourse did s1mple not have the stats in 2017 as he does in 2018, as he is breaking records in 2018. but i still wouldnt say that they were 7 players better then s1mple at cs in 2017
2018-11-18 22:16
Nope not even close he had like 1.25 rating if you count all games i think and like 1.20 at big events like 64 games only and now he have 1.34 rating with like 147 games
2018-11-18 22:18
#48
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Greenland debaliysubrok 
s1mple #1 device #2 other players can't get close to this guys level.
2018-11-18 21:47
#52
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United States johnjay 
lol
2018-11-18 21:50
#54
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Poland Forace 
-(-1n't)n't
2018-11-18 21:50
#66
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Brazil Broodht 
Device > Simple Just look the MVPs
2018-11-18 21:59
Both have won 5 MVP's ? Yes device have won more tier 1 events but end of the day its a team game but S1mple have almsot won the games by himself thats why he won 2 MVP's or something without winning the event because his stats was so much better than the rest and his MVP rating stats is so much better than device MVP rating stats
2018-11-18 22:02
dude both have 5 mvps
2018-11-18 22:04
#79
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Brazil Broodht 
Major MVP
2018-11-18 22:05
okay nice, that doesnt make him deserve the top 1 over s1mple
2018-11-18 22:06
#94
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Brazil Broodht 
Most dominant team over 2018
2018-11-18 22:10
team=/= player Astralis>navi s1mple>device
2018-11-18 22:10
#103
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Brazil Broodht 
I mean, he's the best player of the best team in the world
2018-11-18 22:16
yes he is, but he isnt the best player in the world
2018-11-18 22:16
#106
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Brazil Broodht 
Yes he's
2018-11-18 22:16
put device into different team and he will be average put simple into different team and he still will shine
2018-11-18 23:24
#70
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Denmark Jonasnhj 
Flag and flair checks out
2018-11-18 22:02
Same can be said for you with that comment jesus The difference is that i give stats and facts and you just makes a stupid comment
2018-11-18 22:03
#73
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Denmark Jonasnhj 
Sure it can. But the matter of fact is, Whos number 1 team and whos winning with ez. Yes thats Astralis. Navi never wins, and if they do its a tier 2 or lower tournament. With the only exeption of Cologne.
2018-11-18 22:04
#74
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Denmark Jonasnhj 
A number 1 player should always win more than a "Number 2"
2018-11-18 22:04
Its a team game end of the day Both have 5 MVP's but device have more Tier 1 S1mple have by far better stats in a worse team S1mple won best Esport player of 2018 What is your comeback now ?
2018-11-18 22:05
#91
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Denmark Jonasnhj 
You said it yourself. He's got better stats in a worse team. Meaning all the frags are given to him, since he is a support player and an awper. Meaning he will get the easy trade frags. While device is an awper but has got an amazing team and he is playing 3rd in. Meaning he doesnt get all the kills. But somehow still does. Astralis has got 5 top 10 players in their team and Navi only got 1 maybe 2 top 10 players in electronic maybe. Making it waaay easier for s1mple to get kills. If s1mple would join Astralis. He wouldn't even get close to the amount of frags he gets sometimes. Where is your comeback now huh? Cause you cant say anything to this. Since its fact little buddy.
2018-11-18 22:08
device stats sucked dick start of 2018 before they got magisk and started to win coldzera stats is much worse now when SK/MIBR is not #1 team There you go
2018-11-18 22:09
#99
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Denmark Jonasnhj 
What are you rambling about kiddo xD You dont have a comeback clearly. Since you didnt even say anything that had anything to do with what we are talking about. Device's stats didnt suck at the start of 2018, if anything they were good. Also sure Astralis started winning more again when they got Magisk. Thats because Magisk brought spirit to the team. S1mples been playing bad the last couple of weeks if not a few months. While device is improving and addapting to his enemies. S1mple just runs in and trades his dead brained teammate entry fragger in Edward.
2018-11-18 22:12
You are saying that because you play for a worse team you get better stats but that did not happend for device or coldzera when their teams played worse S1mple have been playing ''bad'' the last couple of weeks if not months HAHAHAHA just look at yourself like wtf he have been #1 rated player every damn event almost like wtf you you talking about
2018-11-18 22:14
#102
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Denmark Jonasnhj 
Top 1 rated?? Hmm not what i can see xD. Nice shit comeback my little friend. Sad you couldn't protect your super hero little fanboy. Device never played for a bad team you dumbass xD
2018-11-18 22:15
Its you that trying to protect some1 ? S1mple have by far better stats in everything compared to device He won best Esport player of 2018 not just fucking CSGO And all you can say DEVICE WON MORE TIER 1 MVP's MAJOOOOOOOR jesus its a fucking team game and Astralis is way better than Na'Vi But again you are so fucking delusinal its sad
2018-11-18 22:22
dude, you have social life problems. You being an Astralis fan wont help you in real life Astralis are sucessful, NOT YOU, stop idolozing like a fan boy dev1ce is a great player and earns money NOT you its just cs ffs. Its not like football and supporting a football team
2018-11-18 22:31
Your a delusional fan aren't you :) . I like peeps like you
2018-11-18 22:40
Look mate..I am a fan of Astralis and Device and i don't really like s1mple but i still think s1mple > device not only because of flashy plays and etc but also because of stats. Also s1mple has 2 bots with him while Device has 0. So think about it before saying device > s1mple
2018-11-18 22:48
#80
f0rest | 
Sweden Sneaken 
in terms of individual skill level, I agree that S1mple is indeed beyond anyone else as for right now. However i also refer to What Olofmesiter once said, "To be the best player in the world, you not only need a high skill level, but you also has to win." With that said Device is the best player in the world in terms of decoration and teamplay. I think it is a question of #1 s1mple, #2 Device or the other way around. its not an eazy decition.
2018-11-18 22:05
He have won events + MVP's without winning the event and that is rare but that happens only if you play so fucking good that its hard to ignore that And just look what kind of dog shit players S1mple have to deal with.... and the stats for S1mple this year is just do fucking good standard rating for #1 player of the year have been like 1.20 - 1.24 but he have fucking 1.34 with 1000 K/D difference + most clutches aswell
2018-11-18 22:17
I agree, in my mind i think s1mple deserve the top 1 spot. ive said it since he was playing in liquid. that he is the most promising player out there in terms of raw skill. so yeah i agree on that. How ever they havent won majors, nor the majority of the big events, so im afraid that Device will get the nr 1 spot becuase of the fact that they have won most of the big events this year. But on the otherhand, if s1mple still take the top spot, it only shows how good he really is.
2018-11-19 15:22
#81
TaZ | 
Poland laczyslaw 
GAY LOVER CONFIRMED HAHAHHAHA
2018-11-18 22:06
Can we all just agree that S1mple > Device this year. Whoever that thinks Device is better than s1mple is a delusional fan.
2018-11-18 22:10
#102 look at this guy
2018-11-18 22:22
+10000000 inb4 mad danes with social life problems
2018-11-18 22:14
Many of them in the comments just look at the guy at #102
2018-11-18 22:23
if s1mple not top 1 this year.. then its cause this is Danish site.. so RIP in that case s1mple best player 2018.. Denmark always 2nd, very bad nation in sports (denmark) always choke
2018-11-18 22:32
Yes if they for some reason put device as #1 this site is fucking dead for me Lets give some1 with same amount of MVP's but WAY worse rating in every kind of stat #1 player of the year because he plays for a much better team and lets ignore that this guy S1mple won best Esport player of the year aswell but device is clearly better....
2018-11-18 22:35
#109
cyx | 
Denmark VojenZ 
For me comparing device and simple is like comparing ronaldo with De Bruyne. Who is best of those two? They are both really good at different things. It is all about what you measure after. But offensive football players almost always gets the ballon d'or etc. because it is flashy and that is what the common man wants to see. So no wonder that most people think simple is better than device. People wants to see goals and people wants to see frags.
2018-11-18 22:21
This is not fucking football and the stats between them is to big + S1mple won best Esport player of 2018
2018-11-18 22:26
yeah esport player of the year not top 1 in cs, that would be joke ma frend
2018-11-18 22:35
maybe check the stats mah dude s1mple also 1 more MVP, should have been 2 but dev1ce got an undeserved one recently
2018-11-18 22:32
#139
cyx | 
Denmark VojenZ 
Ofc Simple wins hltv ranking. It is 99% stats around frags. You just prove my point thx. That doesn´t mean than most coaches would prefer simple over device on a team - far from. Most coaches wants a player that can work in a system, be consistent, be good at teamplayer, etc. etc. etc. So if most coaches wants device over simple - you could ask who is the better player? As I said before the community wants frags and highlights - coaches wants to win matches. Some say device would be bad on another team. As long the team has a strong system - he will do his job as top player. I think simple could easily be bad on other teams. Put him on Faze - can he be mainstar together with Niko and the others - can he let his ego go and not be fed from support players or entry killers?. Hard to tell.
2018-11-19 00:46
Yeah but I dont think dev1ce is the best player outside HLTV either, no , just no I think NiKo and cold are better as well However, Astralis is the best team in CS:GO history, the most well functioning and everyone in Astralis fits their role perfectly dev1ce playstyle is also smart than s1mples , very reliable But I get your point
2018-11-19 00:51
But s1mple is actually better lol
2018-11-18 22:40
yes, device top1 2018 ez
2018-11-18 22:21
no Only Russians, Poles and Danes thinks that dev1ce is top 1 danes cause of astrallis, ruski and polish cause no like ukraine men))
2018-11-18 22:33
kk mohammed, we'll see)
2018-11-18 22:38
kk Ahmet Ahmedov)))
2018-11-18 22:39
#130
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United States vaccineCS 
+1
2018-11-18 22:40
#136
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France uria64 
8/8
2018-11-18 22:48
#142
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Sweden ShageN 
S1mple #1 2018 and FOREVER!
2018-11-19 00:54
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