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S1mple = ZyWoo > device individually
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United States TheBlackSwordsmann 
Ofc device above ZyWoo in rankings but individually this guy is insane
2018-11-19 00:55
Zywoo hasn’t gone against top 5 teams yet. He is insane for sure, but this is too early to call anything.
2018-11-19 00:57
Complexity made it to major playoffs and Immortals to major finals. The scene is more complicated than dividing into tier but, yes, ZyWoo has to proof more
2018-11-19 01:00
He said top 5 teams
2018-11-19 01:01
#20
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Estonia dapdroptop 
+1
2018-11-19 01:07
#64
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Germany mary69 
i‘ve read tier aswell lol
2018-11-28 08:01
Then ur dumb
2018-11-28 16:57
#127
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Finland istop1 
dont say that with that name
2018-11-29 09:21
#48
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North America alej250 
coL and Inmortal? OMEGALUL
2018-11-28 07:23
you mean Luminosity
2018-11-28 07:34
Immortals made it to the finals of Krakow 2017 and lost to Gambit
2018-11-28 14:14
off topic just pay attention to the discussion
2018-11-28 14:15
Nothing mentioning Luminosity was brought up and it seemed like you mistook Immortals run at Krakow as if it was Luminosity
2018-11-28 14:17
#61
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France PowwneD 
Agree, but it will have time to prove against some T1 teams really soon, major qualifier and some LAN to come
2018-11-28 07:53
#87
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North America SweatyBawlz 
Yeah he said top 5 teams, not a fluke NA team that beat no one of relevance and has done nothing since, or a team that have been outcasts for over a year
2018-11-28 14:12
#85
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Russia slyfoxxdd 
+1
2018-11-28 14:03
+1
2018-11-28 17:00
#2
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Bosnia and Herzegovina im_not_toxic 
got some frags vs trash NAs and people already praised him like a god LUL
2018-11-19 00:57
#7
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Sweden ShageN 
+1
2018-11-19 00:58
"some" frags
2018-11-19 00:59
#30
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Belgium i_am_alexa 
also "some" frags in FPL against every single best player, he's outclassing everybody rn
2018-11-19 09:08
#72
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France FabulousM 
yeah "some" frags in FPL but np
2018-11-28 11:06
#111
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Canada Adipocere 
Theres also a clip of him in FPL where he prefires an enemy that doesnt actually show yet, which is very sketchy and quite incriminating.
2018-11-28 15:53
#112
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France FabulousM 
OMG HE IS CHEATING REPORT HIM WTF
2018-11-28 16:51
#113
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Canada Adipocere 
2018-11-28 16:52
#114
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France FabulousM 
YES OMG REPORT HIM YEAH HE IS WALLHACKING 100%
2018-11-28 17:02
#115
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Canada Adipocere 
Im glad you agree with me, thanks Frenchmen
2018-11-28 16:54
#119
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France FabulousM 
YES YES REPORT
2018-11-28 17:02
He has a great aim and good movements. He just needs to work on his teamplay but it will come with time and experience
2018-11-19 00:57
True, he needs to get better at communicating with his teammates
2018-11-19 00:58
#27
Myanmar xdcc 
Things like: guys press M1 to shoot.
2018-11-19 09:02
ZyWHO??
2018-11-19 00:58
#8
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Sweden ShageN 
+1
2018-11-19 00:58
zywoo good but not best s1mple best
2018-11-19 01:01
#16
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Sweden ShageN 
zywoo good but not best s1mple best
2018-11-19 01:01
#28
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Indonesia FinZzz 
s1mple good but not best HUNDEN best
2018-11-19 09:03
#44
Lekr0 | 
Peru synergy_ 
HUNDEN good but not best hardstyle bestest
2018-11-28 05:36
Kane>hardstyle
2018-11-28 07:30
#49
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Poland not_morosek 
+1
2018-11-28 07:24
expected from noscener
2018-11-28 07:35
#5
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Sweden ShageN 
"S1mple = ZywOo" 0/8
2018-11-19 00:58
#110
AREA | 
Denmark ram0 
8/8*
2018-11-28 15:51
#9
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United States Venom_ 
Zywoo over hyped pugger
2018-11-19 00:58
that won a event
2018-11-28 05:34
#67
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United States Venom_ 
a tier 8 event
2018-11-28 08:11
teir 2, but ya oke
2018-11-28 20:55
#121
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United States Venom_ 
Nop tier 8
2018-11-29 02:16
just like fnatic in 2018 lul
2018-11-29 04:37
#46
Xyp9x | 
Other Zyncc 
He might be good but he gotta prove it against top 3 teams otherwise he will be forgotten
2018-11-28 05:42
#62
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France PowwneD 
Agree, but it will have time to prove against some T1 teams really soon, major qualifier and some LAN to come
2018-11-28 07:54
#65
Xyp9x | 
Other Zyncc 
Yeah..he is too young and has very good prospects to be a part of a tier 1 team in the future or may be vitality perform and become tier 1.
2018-11-28 08:03
#95
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France PowwneD 
They should imo, they have the potential to do it, they are individualy strong and they are good as a team. Also ZywOo is the only player that i know who can clutch any situation alone.
2018-11-28 15:12
#97
Xyp9x | 
Other Zyncc 
Is zywoo awping for Vitality...??
2018-11-28 15:31
#100
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France PowwneD 
He do, usally in defense but he is kinda hybrid player who can frag with any weapon so in T side he playing both. Happy and NBK are sometimes taking the second AWP (thinking about defense, NBK on cache, Happy on some other maps)
2018-11-28 15:34
#102
Xyp9x | 
Other Zyncc 
I hope that kenny joins in place of happy or rpk
2018-11-28 15:35
#103
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France PowwneD 
Would be sick in term of firepower, but they don't need it atm, i prefer him trying to make G2 great again with Lucky and JackZ and see 3 french teams in the top 20
2018-11-28 15:36
#104
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France PowwneD 
Also RpK isn't that bad, only Happy bottom fragging often but i think they have some balance in this team and they need to see the limits of this lineup before changing it.
2018-11-28 15:38
#105
Xyp9x | 
Other Zyncc 
Lets see what happens ...ok m8 gotta go bye....
2018-11-28 15:40
#108
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France PowwneD 
see ya
2018-11-28 15:47
Being above device individually isn’t an achievement since individually he is average
2018-11-19 00:58
This is actually true
2018-11-19 01:01
#18
Xyp9x | 
Portugal CRMN1 
Ok, cut the bs lol
2018-11-19 01:03
It’s not bs device isn’t a mechanically skilled player ofc he is still one of the best players in the world Though
2018-11-19 01:04
#21
Xyp9x | 
Portugal CRMN1 
If you take in consideration things like reaction time and ability to hit flickshots based on fast movement I agree but he is probably the best player in the world to maneuver an AWP. He always makes a near perfect use of it, and that's also mechanical. I am not counting raw aim because his role barely requires it.
2018-11-19 01:59
Guess it depends what you base it on then
2018-11-19 08:38
#29
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Indonesia FinZzz 
He is the smartest awper til this day imo. Also one of the best passive ct players and best passive awper. However if we are talking about raw aim so many players are better than him. Heck dupreeh and magisk probably has better raw aim than device. Still the best astralis player tho since raw aim is not only the factor that counts
2018-11-19 09:06
Fallen
2018-11-19 09:08
#40
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Indonesia FinZzz 
fallen is more flashy but device is more consistent. I would prefer device over fallen as an awper anyday of the week.
2018-11-28 05:27
#45
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France Baitor 
nt m8 we all know god crazyguy is the best awper
2018-11-28 05:36
+1 i are think that
2018-11-28 10:44
depends on the team u have rly i dont think device playstyle would be the best if his team around him wasnt that good
2018-11-28 11:04
#86
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World nakTriceps 
FalleN is a god. The difference about consistency is that the Brazilian is the fucking igl of the team. FalleN is more useful in most of teams than device. Imagine FalleN replacing Zeus, for example. This team would be one of the clear favourites to dethrone Astralis.
2018-11-28 14:07
#128
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Indonesia FinZzz 
Key phrase : "as an awper" not as a player in general because fallen brings more to the table.
2018-12-05 04:30
#129
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World nakTriceps 
I read, dude. I mean that if Fallen wasn´t the IGL, probably he´ll be equally consistency like dev.
2018-12-05 04:42
#130
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Indonesia FinZzz 
maybe. We will never know
2018-12-09 08:43
#99
Xyp9x | 
Other Zyncc 
Yeah....his play is very much synchronised with his team..he is a very good player but with the support of his team he can be the most deadly player because he is very passive player who often requires rifle support at crucial positions of the map to perform at his max potential.
2018-11-28 15:33
ofc i would actually say that him and magisk are the two least valuable players in astralis but thats just my opinion
2018-11-28 15:34
#43
Lekr0 | 
Peru synergy_ 
+1 you smart
2018-11-28 05:35
"he is average" just won MVP tho
2018-11-28 07:36
mechanically he is an average player
2018-11-28 11:05
he's not the reddit king but he gets the work done and even more. He never overpeeks or goes too confident
2018-11-28 11:36
dosent change what i said though and hes lucky to have such a good team around him
2018-11-28 13:54
#15
KRIMZ | 
Denmark slacking 
Like a good one, and if he played on Astralis / FaZe / Liquid, he would get a whip ... there is nothing to go after him because he kills a lot of frags on "weaker bands" ..
2018-11-19 01:01
s1mple>device>zywoo
2018-11-19 08:49
s1mple>ZyWoo>gla1ve=Xyp9x=dupreeh>device maybe
2018-11-19 10:58
Knock Knock ?
2018-11-19 08:58
ZywOo is very good but comparing him to s1mple is kibda ridiculous
2018-11-19 09:01
#84
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World nakTriceps 
ZyWHO cannot be compared ATM with oskar. With s1mple is ridiculous.
2018-11-28 14:02
#92
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France Yo_Les_Noobz 
You are right, he is miles ahead of Oskar
2018-11-28 14:36
#94
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World nakTriceps 
I´m not talking with u, kid and dumboy.
2018-11-28 14:40
device is abc player zywoo, s1mple are aimers
2018-11-19 09:02
ABC meaning?
2018-11-28 11:42
sticks to the plan whatever goes on? s1mple in this case is flexible, just like zeus, they change their gameplay ingame, thats why sometimes they need to lose first game at tournaments just to understand each other
2018-11-28 16:58
Still dev top 1 2k18 so who cares
2018-11-19 09:16
Btw its the worst year in esport
2018-11-19 09:17
why is that, becausey you're pissed your team didnt win? esports never got any better than during 2018, stop seeing the industry through your tiny own scope
2018-11-28 07:37
#63
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India prat_pps 
I agree even though the faceit major was trash ...the eleague boston was one of the best I've ever seen ..adding to cologne sydney and marsile it was an amazing yesr
2018-11-28 07:58
ppl just cant stop complaining Boston : "omg fluke win" Faceit : "omg astralis won again ofc, boring team to watch" complaining also about Gambit before ... this community just cant stop whining
2018-11-28 08:10
#96
shox | 
India prat_pps 
True .... i said the faceit major was terrible because of the production the set and the terrible form the other teams were in .... im not talking anything from astralis they are by far the best in the world this year
2018-11-28 15:19
#107
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Denmark Derige 
HLTV are full of people who will keep saying CS is ded until they day they die themselves. The only thing i cant figure out if whether or not they are baiting or actually being serious. (Probably a mix of both)
2018-11-28 15:47
Minekraft>csgo
2018-11-29 09:11
#38
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Poland wiktorex 
lul no
2018-11-19 11:01
Yes hes major mvp no way that someone else could be top1
2018-11-19 11:12
#50
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Poland not_morosek 
Like major mvp is something special
2018-11-28 07:25
#74
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Netherlands Candrous 
Well yeah, that's why it's the Major MVP and not a minor MVP
2018-11-28 11:10
iDISBALANCE >>>>>>>>> s1mple > ZywOo > dev1ce
2018-11-19 09:20
#51
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Poland not_morosek 
+1
2018-11-28 07:25
#35
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France Marvelus 
Also won 3 times the FPL and got some frags on s1mple & co lmao
2018-11-19 09:24
- Online - Relevant > Pick One
2018-11-28 07:27
ppl were crying "lmao he wont do anything vs tier 3 teams" he played them and fucked them "lmao he won't do anything on lan, damn Zywoonliner" he won DH Atlanta What are you gonna whine about next?
2018-11-28 07:40
#68
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France Marvelus 
"lmao he don't play against tier 1 team" ... xD... just wait and see
2018-11-28 09:47
#37
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Poland wiktorex 
zhahah zywwo=s1mple? hahahahahah
2018-11-19 11:00
#41
Lekr0 | 
Peru synergy_ 
we cant talk about zywoo unless vitality is invited to a tier 1 with astralis in the event, but yeah he looks very skilled. btw device doesnt shine because his aim, he shines for his game sense
2018-11-28 05:33
+1
2018-11-28 07:40
#82
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World nakTriceps 
It´s not needed Astralis. If the event has MIBR, NaVi, Liquid, FaZe, Mouz etc it´ll be enough.
2018-11-28 14:00
Zywooo has talant, but has to prove it against t1 yet.
2018-11-28 07:20
Mad cuz device is handsome and they are ugly?
2018-11-28 07:41
dafuq does that have to do with their ability as players?
2018-11-29 04:39
Zywho?
2018-11-28 11:09
Zywoo good but not best (JW best)
2018-11-28 11:12
#76
NiKo | 
United Kingdom L1ghtn1ng 
*rep
2018-11-28 11:17
#79
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France Maksta 
But NiKo > s1mple
2018-11-28 11:46
#98
NiKo | 
United Kingdom L1ghtn1ng 
+1
2018-11-28 15:33
#81
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World nakTriceps 
FalleN > ZyWHO
2018-11-28 13:59
zywoo is the most talented player I have ever seen in csgo
2018-11-28 14:02
Right now, ZywOo hasn't played against any top 5 team, yes However, it's still something that, when you go in HLTV stats, players, he's n°1 by far in 2017, 2018 and all time in terms of rating So yeah it's obviously boosted by the fact that he smurfed at a shit tier, but still, I don't think that Device could have achieved that even by playing at lower tiers
2018-11-28 14:34
0/8
2018-11-28 14:39
flair doesn’t check out wtf
2018-11-28 15:42
device is not top 50 individually
2018-11-28 15:50
#122
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Brazil hugoooo 
ZywOo has immense raw skill, that's pretty clear, I think he can be a top 5 when it comes to skill, but he has not proved himself vs elite teams on lan, consistently, yet, something I believe he can do.
2018-11-29 02:22
#123
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Brazil Smartzilian 
Zywoo seems to be good, but common stop this... let's wait to see how he'll perform in a big lan event
2018-11-29 02:23
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