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Real top 20 leaked *fixed
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United States jcv999 
1. S1mple 2. Device 3. NiKo 4. Dupreeh 5. Magisk 6. Electronic 7. Glaive 8. NAF 9. Krimz 10. Twistzz 11. Coldzera 12. Guardian 13. SuNny 14. xyp9x 15. Oskar 16. Autimatic 17. Elige 18. Rain 19. ropz 20. Tarik
2018-11-19 17:37
Good list, but why Autimatic>Tarik?
2018-11-19 17:49
#4
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United States jcv999 
Tarik played like garbage most of the year. Only 1.03 rating in big events this year. Only reason he's relevant for the list is his Major MVP
2018-11-19 17:50
Autimatic after Tarik’s departure?
2018-11-19 17:52
#9
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United States jcv999 
Autimatic still has 1.13 rating in big events vs tarik's 1.03
2018-11-19 17:54
Tarik is playing in a much worst team and have to play as support?
2018-11-19 17:56
#17
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United States jcv999 
Tarik is an average rating player that has a Major MVP. Otherwise he is irrelevant for this list. His role doesn't matter
2018-11-19 17:57
Flair checks out.
2018-11-19 17:59
#24
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United States jcv999 
i'm right; you know it.
2018-11-19 18:00
+1
2018-11-20 03:19
how is mibr a much worse team then cloud 9.
2018-11-20 01:25
#78
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United States Jammin800k 
Hes also not the support, stewie and fer are doing most of the supportive elements. Tarik is a mid round player and rotator.
2018-11-20 03:01
#6
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United States Texas_nigga 
I arent think that. JW>tarik
2018-11-19 17:51
#11
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United States jcv999 
JW had similar stats and doesn't have a Major MVP
2018-11-19 17:54
#18
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United States Texas_nigga 
Not this year but he does have a major MVP. JW and Krimz carried fnatic the whole year so I think both deserve to make it. Fnatic overall had a better year than c9.
2018-11-19 17:58
#28
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United States jcv999 
1.03 rating doesn't get you in the top 20 without a major MVP
2018-11-19 18:01
#32
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United States Texas_nigga 
DHW 2013????
2018-11-19 18:02
#42
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United States jcv999 
2013
2018-11-19 18:09
#61
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United States Texas_nigga 
Ik it was a trash bait
2018-11-19 18:33
get out
2018-11-19 20:24
#84
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United States ShawnM 
I'm sorry but only navi, ast, faze, and a couple others have had a better year. C9 major and they placed well at other events like iem katowice
2018-11-20 03:08
#101
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United States Sillychubs 
I’m sorry im a big c9 fan but c9 has had a shit year aside from their major run and afterwards. Literally the only other events they did good at were summit Katowice and maybe dh Marseilles
2018-11-20 06:24
>2018 top 20 >not this year pick one
2018-11-20 06:14
#122
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United States Texas_nigga 
Damn I wasnt expecting a native english speaker to be unable to read sike Canada all paki immigrants
2018-11-21 01:04
#8
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United States jcv999 
JW had similar stats and doesn't have a Major MVP
2018-11-19 17:53
#10
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CIS s4turn 
Where is the fuck xyp9x. He should be top10 this year. Hes even better than gla1ve
2018-11-19 17:54
#12
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United States jcv999 
14. xyp9x
2018-11-19 17:54
#13
rain | 
CIS s4turn 
I said he should be top10
2018-11-19 17:54
#14
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United States jcv999 
Why? Glaive had higher ratings than him.
2018-11-19 17:55
#15
rain | 
CIS s4turn 
Xyp9x better. Its a fact. 7 xyp9x 8 gla1ve
2018-11-19 17:56
#19
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United States jcv999 
The stats don't show that. Glaive 1.14 rating in big events. Xyp9x 1.10
2018-11-19 17:58
#21
rain | 
CIS s4turn 
Its a fact. U cant argument vs fact
2018-11-19 17:59
by that logic naf should be #5 as he has the 5th highest rating on big events dumbfuck kid go fix your shitty list
2018-11-19 18:01
#30
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United States jcv999 
lul Danish fanboy with fragile ego detected
2018-11-19 18:02
im just saying that your list is pretty shit and your arguments are shit aswell:)
2018-11-19 18:04
#79
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United States Jammin800k 
What's your list then? His list isnt that far off
2018-11-20 03:03
#50
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United States jcv999 
Glaive and Xyp9x have the same accomplishments. Glaive performed better during that. Not sure what your argument is
2018-11-19 18:22
what the fuck are you talking about? i have not said that xyp should be higher than glaive anywhere? again, dumbfuck
2018-11-19 18:27
+1 cis brother
2018-11-20 03:20
LOL its a fact guys
2018-11-20 06:19
#20
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Poland swstk 
autimatic over elige XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2018-11-19 17:59
Who is elige?
2018-11-19 18:00
#26
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Poland swstk 
best NA player
2018-11-19 18:01
Its 2018 Not 2017.
2018-11-19 18:01
#33
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Poland swstk 
yeah, well done, you can count, bravo
2018-11-19 18:02
#34
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United States AproximateCS 
To be fair autimatic won a major elige won summit
2018-11-19 18:03
#36
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Poland swstk 
constant top2/3 finishes> 1 fluke major
2018-11-19 18:03
#39
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United States AproximateCS 
Eh normally they get the get a easier bracket. But I'm not saying I agree with it, But I can see where he has the idea
2018-11-19 18:05
#40
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Poland swstk 
do they get an easier bracket though? they've defeated navi and other top 5-10 in the playoffs many times
2018-11-19 18:06
#41
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United States AproximateCS 
Na'Vi inconsistent af and only the top 5 teams are really contenders
2018-11-19 18:09
#35
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United States jcv999 
i think you're right on that lol
2018-11-19 18:03
coldzera and sunny over xyp?? wtf
2018-11-19 18:00
#31
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United States jcv999 
Yes.
2018-11-19 18:02
lmao thats so fucking stupid
2018-11-19 18:03
#44
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United States jcv999 
Cold and sunny played better against the same teams
2018-11-19 18:10
no they have not, xyp is the backbone of astralis, sunny has played great, but not better than xyp, cold should be close to 20 if even be on the list
2018-11-19 18:28
#54
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United States jcv999 
Cold 1.16 rating Sunny 1.13 rating xyp9x 1.10 rating Against top 30 teams in big events.
2018-11-19 18:30
again how fucking stupid are you? your argument is shit, as if you only use ratins your list would be different, and top 20 has never been based on whos got the better rating but whose the best
2018-11-19 18:32
#81
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United States Jammin800k 
Xyp9x has the best IGL/fragging IGL in the world on his team the best entry fragger and entry duo, the 2nd best AWPer. Yes hes one of the best support players in the world but there is an argument to be made for sunny to be higher than him. Sunny has huge early round impact and sets his team up for success constantly, hes super consistent and that's rare for an entry fragger. Cold wont be higher than either of them because of his weak achievements and lack of impact in playoffs.
2018-11-20 03:06
You have to consider you only bring rating what about clutch rounds won? Doubt anyone have more clutches than xyp
2018-11-20 09:11
#116
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United States jcv999 
S1mple does. Also, that is a significant rating disparity
2018-11-20 20:35
No, sunny #1
2018-11-20 03:21
Replace krimz with xyp
2018-11-19 18:09
#45
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United States fallenfan 
no FalleN ?!!!
2018-11-19 18:11
#46
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United States jcv999 
Fallen has similar stats to tarik and fallen has far fewer accomplishments
2018-11-19 18:13
XD TWISTZZ 10 NAF 8 REASON ?
2018-11-19 18:13
#48
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United States jcv999 
NAF 1.16 rating twistzz 1.13
2018-11-19 18:17
Oh i see so blameF 2nd right?
2018-11-19 18:17
stupid ass ratings man youre so fucking stupid
2018-11-19 18:28
#55
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United States jcv999 
Rating>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MUH FEELS
2018-11-19 18:30
ratings=/= whos better
2018-11-19 18:31
#58
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United States jcv999 
You are correct. But rating is one of the most important things. Accomplishments are also important
2018-11-19 18:32
no impact is the most important thing cold has no fucking impact anymore, garbage team now sunny great team but has had big slumps xyp huge impact best team in the world
2018-11-19 18:33
#83
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United States Jammin800k 
Sunny slumps? Look at the graph hltv.org/stats/players/compare/5479/suNn.. Cold no impact? hltv.org/stats/players/compare/4954/Xyp9.. Your not even making the proper arguments to defend your point
2018-11-20 03:11
Ofc that naf will be higher. Better stats, more consistent performance, more individual awards...
2018-11-20 09:07
#56
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Poland Fridzu 
device>p1mple
2018-11-19 18:30
#59
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United States jcv999 
Expected from Dane
2018-11-19 18:32
#64
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Poland Fridzu 
lmao
2018-11-19 18:46
16. Autimatic xdddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
2018-11-19 18:34
#66
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United States jcv999 
+1000 on username where does autimatic belong in your opinion?
2018-11-19 20:20
surely not on top20
2018-11-19 20:29
#69
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United States jcv999 
Why? 1.11 rating at big events against top 30 teams (14th) won a major
2018-11-19 20:33
#103
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United States Sillychubs 
Yeah but that doesn’t warrant 16th since the rest of c9’s year was garbage
2018-11-20 06:27
#104
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United States jcv999 
The top 20 is individual.
2018-11-20 06:57
#117
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United States Sillychubs 
If that was the case, how come xantares wasnt in the top 20 last year?
2018-11-20 21:28
#120
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United States jcv999 
hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2017-01.. Xantares had 4 maps played and wasn't even in the top 20 ratings. What even is your argument?
2018-11-21 00:09
#65
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Europe KrakeNCSGO 
elec better than magisk trust me
2018-11-19 18:47
#70
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United States jcv999 
No.
2018-11-19 20:45
#71
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Europe KrakeNCSGO 
C9 Fans talking about ranking lol
2018-11-19 21:21
#73
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United States jcv999 
? navi fans lol
2018-11-20 01:10
#82
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World Damon1174 
? c9 fans lol
2018-11-20 03:07
#110
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Indonesia Astranesia 
navi fans lol
2018-11-20 07:29
#112
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World Damon1174 
LOL astralis fans why even show yourself on this site
2018-11-20 08:24
#115
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Indonesia Astranesia 
Why not? This site is danish website sorry gtfo
2018-11-20 12:50
#118
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World Damon1174 
>danish site so I should be on cause im an ast fan >indonesian cmon bruh, also nt bandwagon loser
2018-11-20 22:04
#89
oskarJ | 
Czech Republic y0fl0w 
yes elec will be 4th
2018-11-20 05:05
rain omegalul rest of the rest aint that bad
2018-11-19 21:23
I feel like valde deserves to be in top 20
2018-11-20 01:13
#94
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United States jcv999 
Why?
2018-11-20 05:15
KRIMZ 9th? LUL He won't be in top 20.
2018-11-20 01:15
are you dumb?
2018-11-20 03:03
#76
Xyp9x | 
Portugal CRMN1 
Easily the best list i've seen so far. I wouldn't put rain in the top 20 anyway, but this is the closest i've seen to what actually might happen.
2018-11-20 01:19
#107
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United States jcv999 
TY Mr. sensible sir
2018-11-20 07:25
#88
oskarJ | 
Czech Republic y0fl0w 
dupreeh too high, look at mine: hackmd.io/s/S1jkHbJAQ
2018-11-20 05:05
#90
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United States jcv999 
That's honestly really close to mine. Kinda cool that we came to nearly the same conclusions I rated Tarik's major mvp a bit higher than your approach. I also took dupreeh's accomplishments with the team into account
2018-11-20 05:13
#93
oskarJ | 
Czech Republic y0fl0w 
yeah, we'll see!
2018-11-20 05:14
y'all sleeping on jks
2018-11-20 05:13
#92
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United States jcv999 
We aren't
2018-11-20 05:14
this list is no good 1. dev1ce 2. dupreeh 3. Magisk 4. gla1ve 5. Xyp9x 6. s1mple 7-20. who cares
2018-11-20 05:15
#96
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United States jcv999 
fakeflagger detected.
2018-11-20 05:26
#97
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Sweden realMALI 
dupreeh? what has he done?
2018-11-20 05:43
#106
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United States jcv999 
Win
2018-11-20 07:25
#98
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Australia Googgy 
1. Dick Stacy
2018-11-20 05:53
#102
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Finland Emvi 
tarik looooooooooooool nt
2018-11-20 06:25
#105
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United States jcv999 
Major MVP
2018-11-20 07:25
#108
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Finland Emvi 
sadly that's pretty much all for the whole year
2018-11-20 07:26
#109
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United States jcv999 
Yup. Pretty average outside of that.
2018-11-20 07:27
#111
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France Dov 
Zywoo top1
2018-11-20 07:32
#119
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Europe xSKYY 
really good list no nip picking here about the places they will be like this +-2 at all
2018-11-20 22:49
#123
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United States jcv999 
TY sir
2018-11-21 01:06
#121
ZywOo | 
Denmark BoytanG 
Good list. Switch electronic and magisk, and maybe put gla1ve a bit lower.
2018-11-21 00:12
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