Thorin is bullshit* fixed
2018-11-22 10:48
came here to type this. +1
2018-11-22 11:01
i got your back USAR
2018-11-22 11:02
idiot
2018-11-22 15:35
"ImNATrash" "Fan of B1ad3" Yeah I don't think I have to say anything here
2018-11-22 16:26
You already did brainlet
2018-11-22 16:38
wow you are really smart
2018-11-23 20:46
+1
2018-11-22 12:00
#34
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Germany mary69 
gud job +2
2018-11-22 12:20
#38
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Japan ma_frend 
+1
2018-11-22 13:00
#73
Brazil G3er 
+2 didn't even watch last cs summit because of how much shit was comming out of that dudes mouth, even his voice sounds irritating
2018-11-22 15:20
#87
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Denmark monroEski 
He does argue well for the rankings and seems to be fair in his placement of the teams. Why is this bullshit?
2018-11-22 16:03
+1
2018-11-22 17:12
#145
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Brazil Collee 
best comment 2k18
2018-11-22 22:43
#148
Zeus | 
Ukraine Lomz 
+1
2018-11-22 22:58
#163
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South Africa Splooshypooh 
+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1
2018-11-23 14:04
#2
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United States Mayor_Quimby 
Nip is better than NRG and MiBR
2018-11-22 10:49
NRG won a tournament and MIBR won 2 tournaments (I know these tournaments mean nothing but objectively they do), and MIBR qualified for the major.
2018-11-22 10:51
#29
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United States Mayor_Quimby 
It wasn’t even a tier 2 tournament but ok
2018-11-22 11:53
I reject the idea of nrg above nip. As for mibr, they have been shit lately but they win most of the time against nip so i cannot in good conscience put nip above.
2018-11-22 11:11
#31
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Belgium KevinGatesYo 
That is so false
2018-11-22 11:57
#152
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Italy steven513 
There is no way they're better than either team.
2018-11-23 01:58
#168
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United States Mayor_Quimby 
They just beat nrg 16-6 but ok, you’re gonna say its a bo1 but they also just lost to north
2018-11-24 04:36
#3
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Czech Republic fnx_2_majors 
8/8 it's 100% accurate and i hate Thorin btw. copypasta of HLTV ranknings
2018-11-22 10:50
look at #9 and #10..not same
2018-11-22 10:52
#64
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Czech Republic fnx_2_majors 
no shit sherlock
2018-11-22 14:01
how the fuck is it a copy paste if it's not a copy paste? it's different. kid you're doing the wrong drugs
2018-11-22 14:18
#121
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Czech Republic fnx_2_majors 
lol someone is not even a kid here, it's a copy pasta, just changed a bit, did you went to school even or you are doing a prostitude in Honk Kong?
2018-11-22 17:38
#125
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United Kingdom oyyrofl 
Lmao wtf
2018-11-22 17:56
1 of 10 placements in his ranking is not the same, which doesn't change anything. thorin list = hltv list, COPYPASTA
2018-11-22 17:57
#141
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Czech Republic fnx_2_majors 
+1
2018-11-22 21:11
+1
2018-11-22 16:59
Accurate
2018-11-22 10:50
#6
forsaken | 
Germany xVamos 
i think it its pretty legit
2018-11-22 10:52
Where is ENCE???
2018-11-22 10:53
#20
Zeus | 
Finland Olter 
Choking online
2018-11-22 11:11
Stopped reading after I saw that ence weren't top 1
2018-11-22 15:25
In todays news: No-name retard thinks he knows better than world renowned E-Sports Historian! also, water is wet.
2018-11-22 10:56
#10
FalleN | 
Indonesia PapaMoZ 
+1
2018-11-22 10:56
but thorin has autism
2018-11-22 11:23
And your name is BigGayMan, not sure what's worse, my dude.
2018-11-22 12:56
wow ePiC rOAsT
2018-11-22 13:21
Hey man, Homosexuality is not a sin. Nobody on this forum would actively discriminate against you, don't worry. you're just like a normal person, but broken. ...well, aside from the turks, jews and anything east of Germany really. GL with that.
2018-11-22 13:22
wow man you're so weird, why are u talking to yourself
2018-11-22 13:26
It's ok, one day we'll accept your kind.
2018-11-22 13:29
nt 14 yo
2018-11-22 13:42
#89
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Denmark Xipingu 
No.
2018-11-22 16:29
He is right though. This list is bullshit. NiP should be at least top4. Also where the f is ENCE?
2018-11-22 11:24
#32
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Belgium KevinGatesYo 
Nip top 4 🤣
2018-11-22 11:58
#41
Thorin | 
Sweden ezwuo 
lol NiP is my favorite team but they're not a top 5 team
2018-11-22 13:06
#128
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United Kingdom Gio_bose 
top 4 ? lul what planet do u live on?
2018-11-22 18:07
How are liquid better than FaZe when they haven't won a single fucking tournament this year that matters?
2018-11-22 11:03
You got a point, but overall they have been more consistent. Although, faze have been more impressing considering their periods with standins.
2018-11-22 11:06
Consistent at losing tournaments sure.
2018-11-22 11:06
#42
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Norway NoregNik 
Losing in the Finals. FaZe can barely even make it to the Finals, lets be honest. You're stupid obviously. You don't have to win a tournament to be a top 5 team. Liquid had many #2 finishes and that's enough to be a top 5 team lol.
2018-11-22 13:06
Not that I like Thorin, but I think the list is pretty accurate. Instead of just saying its bullshit, maybe say what you disagree on? Or are you just a biased thorin hater?
2018-11-22 11:04
Lul Thorin fanboy spotted.
2018-11-22 11:21
I dont even like him.
2018-11-22 11:52
dont fall for low quality b8s m8
2018-11-22 14:03
Something tells me Im too old for this site. Some kids nowadays have too little to do.
2018-11-22 14:05
indeed
2018-11-22 14:06
its his opinion. just cuz u have a different one doesnt mean his is bullshit
2018-11-22 11:04
Nope u are legit wrong. Stop being so b*tthurt Thorin fanboy
2018-11-22 11:20
I am not a thorin fanboy and I am certainly not butthurt. I dont know how one would interpret my comment as me being butthurt. lol so when some has a different opinion than yours, someones opinion is bullshit. wow, you seem to be a very mature, self relfected person. I reckon you are just baiting
2018-11-22 11:24
No-one us going to read that wall of dogshit. Thorin's opinion is bullshit and even someone with mental capabilities of a groundworm can realize that.
2018-11-22 11:27
it was nice talking to you. but now I have to switch back to conversations with grown ups. have a nice day mate
2018-11-22 11:28
Nt Thorin fanboy
2018-11-22 22:42
you're trying too hard... 1/8
2018-11-22 13:25
Nt Thorin fanboy
2018-11-22 22:42
way too hard
2018-11-22 22:56
no u
2018-11-22 23:14
#129
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United Kingdom Gio_bose 
ur stupid
2018-11-22 18:09
Nt Thorin fanboy
2018-11-22 22:41
#151
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United Kingdom Gio_bose 
opinion cannot be bullshit as it is not fact it is opinion
2018-11-23 01:56
Well in fact to be honest while taking everything into account and respecting other people's opinions as well and meaning no harm I have to say you sir, are a steaming pile of absolute bullshit, all due respect.
2018-11-23 08:21
#155
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United Kingdom Gio_bose 
When give respect just yeet back
2018-11-23 09:12
No u
2018-11-23 09:15
#165
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United Kingdom Gio_bose 
Nah u
2018-11-23 19:16
Howmuch????
2018-11-23 20:45
MIBR N° 6 XD
2018-11-22 11:10
#30
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Sweden Maddafakka 
You're just giving Thorin more ammunition, he thrives off of these types on threads.
2018-11-22 11:56
#35
Zeus | 
Ukraine One1ove 
Who is Thorin and what did he achieve in CS?
2018-11-22 12:24
He is the most known e sport commentator, with expertise in cs, starcraft and quake. What did you achieve in anything?
2018-11-22 13:03
+ LoL or am I wrong? I dont watch it so idk but he seems to be involved or at least interested based on his videos and twitter
2018-11-22 17:26
#37
Myanmar xdcc 
So almost identical to HLTV rankings (especially if you look at points). Zzzzz...
2018-11-22 12:59
#40
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Netherlands unluko_maluko 
1 - MIBR 2 - Astralis 3 - Faze 4 - mousesports 5 - Liquid 6 - Renegades 7 - Virtus.pro 8 - Fnatic 9 - Hellraisers 10 - NRG 241 - NAVI
2018-11-22 13:04
you mean m16r? xaxaxa
2018-11-22 17:58
#130
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United Kingdom Gio_bose 
nice bait
2018-11-22 18:10
thorin is braindead, so he put random lists that will trigger people, so people talk about him he been doing that since day 1 my friend
2018-11-22 13:11
Whats wrong with the list? For me only mistake is Mibr ranked a bit too high
2018-11-22 15:39
I didnt even see the list, but theres always something to bait ppl for example, when sk was top1 he would put astralis or whatever as top1 when astralis is top1, he would put the 2nd place, etc shit like that, on top10 teams list, top10 players, top10 events etc
2018-11-22 15:56
When SK was top1, he placed them as top1, same for Astralis and any other teams
2018-11-22 17:27
yeah, this after sk win 20 tournments in a row, when they were on the 19 streak, he would put fucking navi or whatever da fuck in 1 lol I stopped seeing this cuz he is just baiting this is just an random example, this happened with every top player or top team or whatever top you can give in csgo
2018-11-23 08:04
That never happened
2018-11-23 13:41
yes it happened I wont give you examples cuz I'm not gonna go look for it, but I said this as an example, I'm not saying this happened EXACLY like that, like specific for SK or navi etc, is just an analogy but if you dont believe me fine, keep looking to his lists and you'll realize soon
2018-11-23 13:44
I know that he put I think VP above SK but he stated that SK are the best team in the world for his money, they just lacked achievements compared to VP + wins against VP. So even if you think they are the best team in the world they dont necessary have to be ranked as number 1. And he put Faze once above SK when SK were clearly better but thats logical since it was when SK brought in boltz so majority of tournaments was with felps = he couldnt really consider those tournaments as highly as tournaments with boltz. So anything that could seem off actually is correct. The best team in the world doesnt have to be ranked number 1, I know it sounds weird but let me explain. A new lineup can form, they can lack achievements compared to other team or they skip a tournament or two and someone can win it and take the 1st place. It doesnt necessary have to show the best team in the world, just team which suits the most for n1 in context of some recent tournaments played and that doesnt have to be the best team in the world, just a team with honeymoon period or that best team didnt attend.
2018-11-23 13:59
#44
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Germany zeolikk 
North and nip have no achievements yet top 8 and 9??
2018-11-22 13:14
NIP 2nd in Blast where there was 4 highly ranked teams ?
2018-11-22 13:17
#70
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Germany zeolikk 
One good event by winning bo1s ok nice
2018-11-22 15:12
What team with achievements is missing? North one of the biggest tournaments of the year, beating 3 great teams in Bo3 including beating the biggest favorite astralis twice.
2018-11-22 15:30
#90
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Denmark Xipingu 
North won over Astralis in a final? Hello?
2018-11-22 16:31
#93
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Germany zeolikk 
That was with a different and a long time ago
2018-11-22 16:50
#96
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Indonesia linekerrr 
so who should be above them?
2018-11-22 16:53
#97
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Germany zeolikk 
LDLC? they have more success recently
2018-11-22 16:53
#98
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Indonesia linekerrr 
literally 1 tournament. too little of a sample size
2018-11-22 16:57
#100
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Germany zeolikk 
I see that you don't follow ldlc at all, meanwhile north with one good tournament in the last 4 months is considered top10
2018-11-22 16:58
#103
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Indonesia linekerrr 
I'm not counting Online, as ANYONE should be . LAN= hltv.org/stats/teams/events/4674/LDLC?ma.. only IEM chicago is relevant. North with one good tournament is considered top 10 because there's NO TEAM with better placings than them outside of the top 10.
2018-11-22 17:05
#109
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Germany zeolikk 
They say that cs had worse competition in 2014-2015 than nowadays but teams just need to get to a final once a year and they're considered top 10 now lul
2018-11-22 17:08
#111
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Indonesia linekerrr 
LUL Funny cause I just saw the ranking for end of 2015 and Liquid, G2, and C9 who was top 8,9,10 didn't really win more than 1 relevant tournament.. bad bait bro, seriously.
2018-11-22 17:13
#113
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Germany zeolikk 
Expected that you need to look up shit first before stating facts newfag, 2015 scene was better than 2018 or 2017
2018-11-22 17:13
#114
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Indonesia linekerrr 
nt, no arguments. braindead
2018-11-22 17:14
#117
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Germany zeolikk 
G2 for example was way better in 2015 than north in 2018, expected from newfag
2018-11-22 17:23
#131
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United Kingdom Gio_bose 
ur so autistic it hurts my brain
2018-11-22 18:12
G2 1 major semi final north 0 major semifinal
2018-11-22 23:03
#99
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Denmark Xipingu 
HLTV counts achievements too over a 3 month span, nothing wrong with that tbh, otherwise there is no point trying to win a tournament
2018-11-22 16:58
#102
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Germany zeolikk 
Why is fnatic not over North wtf they won 2 tournaments this year
2018-11-22 16:59
#105
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Denmark Xipingu 
Not in the last 3 months + they switched players, that costs points.
2018-11-22 17:05
#106
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Germany zeolikk 
North switched players and the event they won was before the major (in August I believe)
2018-11-22 17:06
#123
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Denmark Xipingu 
That is true, actually completely forgot they kicked out MSL xDDDD guess their current placement doesn’t make sense anyway, np
2018-11-22 17:50
#124
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Germany zeolikk 
Well we'll see in the future how north develop but I guess they won't reach shit with this roster, it was a good conversation nevertheless. Have a nice day man
2018-11-22 17:54
#48
Czech Republic Wer_ 
He did one like in a half a year, did not he
2018-11-22 13:23
#51
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Other xrist 
look at hltv top 10 and change 2 teams ez
2018-11-22 13:28
#53
k0nfig | 
Denmark nalleB 
I agree with his ranking except for North, I don't think they are top10 at the moment. Both BUG and fnatic are better, but of course that isn't counted on results.
2018-11-22 13:31
fnatic not counted because of roster changes. Read the description
2018-11-22 13:45
fnatic not counted because of roster changes. Read the description
2018-11-22 13:45
fnatic not counted because of roster changes. Read the description
2018-11-22 13:45
#60
k0nfig | 
Denmark nalleB 
Then North shouldn't be counted either.
2018-11-22 13:46
not how it works. Fnatic had two roster changes, north has one. They look at past achievements and diminishes per roster change north did win that lan before wiht 4 of 5 players agree north shouldnt be top 10 tho
2018-11-22 13:51
#65
k0nfig | 
Denmark nalleB 
Sure, but everything shouldn't be about statistics and achievements. Furthermore, the roster change within North is much more influential as they changed their IGL.. and it's from an IGL who carried them to their only recent trophy to an unproven cadian. Fnatic's roster change has instantly proven successful, while North has looked sloppy and idealess at times. If Thorin had looked at that part from a personal view rather than a statistical standpoint, there's no way he would see North above fnatic at the moment.. but who knows what the future holds.
2018-11-22 14:01
#132
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United Kingdom Gio_bose 
yes but they have had one tournament together
2018-11-22 18:13
#136
k0nfig | 
Denmark nalleB 
Fair, I just don't understand the reasoning by Thorin here. Otherwise it seems like a decent ranking.
2018-11-22 18:50
#137
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United Kingdom Gio_bose 
yh i guess but i dont understand why everyone hates thorin so much tho
2018-11-22 18:57
#138
k0nfig | 
Denmark nalleB 
I don't hate Thorin, I'm one of those freaks who watches his videos.
2018-11-22 19:00
#139
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United Kingdom Gio_bose 
same
2018-11-22 19:31
yeah mibr top1 they won moche xl esports Kappa
2018-11-22 13:35
#55
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Japan ma_frend 
nt gajo
2018-11-22 13:38
Ty muleque
2018-11-23 11:58
#61
Danking | 
Norway Lujj 
mibr & nrg > mouse
2018-11-22 13:46
#62
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Turkey Bestespiller 
Normally I don't like Thorin but this list is so logical
2018-11-22 13:51
Faze should be 3rd
2018-11-22 15:16
#107
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Brazil Fallenzera 
true even though liquid is a better team, they choke in finals
2018-11-22 17:07
Why?
2018-11-22 15:17
Accurate list, some people just can never be satisfied and will always find fault with something just because of the person saying it while never considering the fact that it has logic behind it.
2018-11-22 15:29
#78
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Turkey rusty james 
placement is more or less accurate but there is no way astralis is on the same level as liquid and na vi. however clumsy mibr is right now it doesnt make them in the same category as nip north and big. he basically ripped off the hltv list. and north doesnt even warrant the same class as the rest because they are a new roster and they havent done shit yet apart from trading maps with nrg. big also is on a downward spiral so the last 2 spots could ve gone to more consistent but less lan appearing teams like ence hr or ldlc. you can even argue fnatic because of their recent accomplishment + almost winning against astralis:(which nobody else ve done so far)
2018-11-22 15:36
#133
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United Kingdom Gio_bose 
faze? navi? they have both won against astralis
2018-11-22 18:15
#79
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North America Techno_Lover 
Thorin is bullshit
2018-11-22 15:36
I might not agree with his lists, but he usually explains why he lists the teams as he does pretty good.
2018-11-22 15:37
#81
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United States jadjadz 
1.Astralis stopped reading
2018-11-22 15:37
flair checks out
2018-11-22 15:58
#91
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Denmark Xipingu 
Flair checks out loooooool
2018-11-22 16:31
#82
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United States m1santhr0pe3 
no your just mad
2018-11-22 15:38
#83
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United Kingdom ChrisFroome 
Good list
2018-11-22 15:38
I love how its similar to hltv's ranking haha
2018-11-22 16:51
it's wrong because big must be in the top 3
2018-11-22 17:02
#108
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Brazil Fallenzera 
flag checks out
2018-11-22 17:07
pretty shit top 10 like how is mibr still nr. 6, but right now no one except 2-3 teams is really that good.
2018-11-22 17:09
How is the list bullshit again? It seems like a very well thought ranking, althought I would place BIG over North and even probably NiP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wanna buy the best apples in HLTV? call me NOW: 011-1337-APPLE and get an 80% discount on your first 5 kilos!
2018-11-22 17:17
Same thing every time xd
2018-11-22 17:41
thorin more like polysporin
2018-11-22 17:17
looks pretty good except for mibr being too highly ranked.
2018-11-22 17:25
#134
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Brazil blankenstein 
> A Class team > mousesports mibr 16 - 7 mousesports Not bullshit at all.
2018-11-22 18:29
#135
tabseN | 
Germany FREIER 
His writing is actually not that good. If someone writes like he talkes its never a good sign.
2018-11-22 18:32
#140
allu | 
Sweden Dguyg 
I think it looks pretty good actually, how would your list look?
2018-11-22 19:34
#146
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Turkey Slapdash 
It's as accurate as it can be.
2018-11-22 22:48
"What’s interesting is where MiBR could be in the next one to two months, when they’ll legitimately be in danger of dropping out of the rankings entirely." xaxaxax nt th♿♿♿rin
2018-11-23 12:01
#159
REZ | 
Czech Republic Nikoleo 
1. Astralis 2. NaVi 3. Liquid 4. Faze 5. Mousesports 6. Nip/mibr 7. Nip/mibr 8. NRG 9. Fnatic 10. North real list :)
2018-11-23 12:07
1. Astralis 2. Liquid/Na'Vi 3. Na'Vi/Liquid 4. FaZe 5. NiP 6. Mousesports/MIBR 7. MIBR/Mousesports 8. NRG 9. Fnatic 10. LDLC EZ
2018-11-23 14:08
#169
fnx | 
Portugal lovessd 
thorin is a bullshit himself
2018-11-24 04:39
But Mouz has better results in 2018 then NIP... It’s nor about curent form
2018-11-24 07:13
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