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Is astralis nvidia cheating or not?
United States CousinBilly 
So I did all of the nvidia settings changes so I could have it just like astralis and it works 100%. The only downside is that ur game looks like playdough and is bright as fuck
2018-12-03 09:55
United States CousinBilly 
the sizes of smoke plooms are decreased by like 45% using the settings
2018-12-03 09:55
Can you share these settings? :D
2018-12-03 10:29
shox | 
Norway fen0m 
2018-12-03 11:43
Ty <3
2018-12-03 14:15
nice game lmao
2018-12-03 16:12
United States CousinBilly 
no one has an opinion?
2018-12-03 09:59
yes it is
2018-12-03 15:50
It is unfair but not cheating. Nothing in the rules against it although I’m sure it will be soon
2018-12-03 16:56
Belgium azertyuio 
Unfortunately from the moment money is involved we can expect everything. Just make a comparison with professional sports (basketball, football, cycling, ...) to realize that there is a lot of cheating.
2018-12-03 09:59
United States CousinBilly 
yeah. Im pretty sure in regular sports most are using roids. I really dont think they do steroid checks
2018-12-03 10:00
Sweden qiziz 
So you think that the observers would not react if Astralis said publicly that they did not do it, while they saw that they did? Don't think so.
2018-12-03 10:03
Denmark U w0t m8? 
Well first of all, there no proof they have/are actually using it. (All of them denying it) Secondly it's not a cheat, but a bug exploit.
2018-12-03 10:04
Fnatic DHW 2014 bug exploit disqualified.
2018-12-03 10:07
Denmark U w0t m8? 
They weren't disqulified, they decided to go out of the tournement themselves. And pixelwalking is directly against the rules. Altough both is immoral, only one of them can be proven actually happened
2018-12-03 10:21
Norway Real_Brunstad 
Wrong, it wasnt the pixelwalk that made the controversy, but that 1 part of the texture near t-spawn became invisible and you chould see through it :)
2018-12-03 15:47
Cheat = exploit Cheating means getting an unfair advantage
2018-12-03 10:41
but, the other teams can just adjust their nvidia settings. If I'm taller than you, am I then cheating in basketball?
2018-12-03 11:13
Nobody knows the exploit thats why. And your height argument is stupid cause it leads to physical human things instead of inhuman echancement. The exploit is not intented in the game.
2018-12-03 11:43
2018-12-03 11:44
Ffs danske
2018-12-03 13:05
Mr Julius top1 in Lithuania EZ
2018-12-03 13:12
Ofc ez for the mastermind julius
2018-12-03 13:13
what time is it right now in Lithuanina?
2018-12-03 13:14
I live in the uk Uk time 12:29 Lithuanian time 14:29
2018-12-03 13:29
Well I mean, they’re receiving an unfair advantage in the likes of vision assistence, using an external application (given that they are using the nvidia freestyle option), which is basically the literal definition of ‘cheating’ in games, which is confirmed by Valve’s implementation of Overwatch into CS:GO.
2018-12-03 10:57
Denmark U w0t m8? 
Still no prove they're using it
2018-12-03 10:59
That’s not the point of my reply
2018-12-03 11:00
Denmark U w0t m8? 
It's neither the main point of my initial comment
2018-12-03 11:09
*facepalm* The point of my comment was to correct a formulation mistake in your initial comment, hence it was not directed to the initial point of your comment. On the other hand, your comment to my reply has literally nothing to do with what I wrote in my reply.
2018-12-03 11:14
Lithuania arres 
Of course nobody has proofs and nobody is arguing that. Everyone speculates that given the circumstances they are probably doing that and stating their guesses. Do you have anything against that to say?
2018-12-03 13:28
its not a bug exploit, its using third party software (geforce experience) to get an advantage you cant get otherwise. its cheating. stfu pls. a bug exploit is BIG using crouch jump bug to spot enemies while not being visible to them
2018-12-03 11:04
2018-12-03 14:25
yes it is a cheat. It doesn't differ at all from cheat software that can remove/change textures and other materials in games (transparent walls etc)
2018-12-03 16:05
Australia Lolfeminists 
Lance Armstrong didn’t win Tour de France just because he doped.
2018-12-03 10:04
Yes he won because he doped. He’s stull a good cyclist even without doping but the steroids make him a cut above the rest by a large margin
2018-12-03 10:31
Denmark U w0t m8? 
They all use it anyways
2018-12-03 10:52
Australia Lolfeminists 
They all use it, he won because his genetics allowed him to be better.
2018-12-03 13:06
They all used EPO, unhuman amounts of EPO, but they're also in a different class when it comes to athletes. They trained all year for one fucking race and gave everything they had. Incredible athleticism.
2018-12-03 16:00
Belgium AKANorth 
ask niko for more information.
2018-12-03 10:05
Libya WaldhuterHanz 
ask jw nt
2018-12-03 10:05
there are observers in every t1 lan. if astralis really used these settings, they would sight it
2018-12-03 10:32
finally somebody smart +1
2018-12-03 10:59
And what should they do? Stop the game kek
2018-12-03 13:14
If they belived someone was cheating they would stop the fight and inspect the computer. Otherwise it would undermine the whole sport if they didn't.
2018-12-03 13:38
k0nfig | 
Germany Trax_ 
+1. The answer is so simple that all the deluded haters overlook it.
2018-12-03 13:16
Lithuania arres 
No they wouldn't. I believe every pro overbrightens their screen for better visibility, does digital vibrance and other stuff like that so you cant really see on the spot that someone is seeing enemy through smokes half a seucond earlier than he should even if you look for this exploit. Also I dont think that manipulate graphic settings is against the rules. So nobody is even bothered by that. And I dont think that all observers are even aware that this is possible.
2018-12-03 13:35
Denmark Lars69420 
Why would they lie about it? If the community found out they were using the bug, they just made it far worse for themselves.
2018-12-03 10:42
Aleksib | 
Finland Mitzu 
I'm not saying they are exploiting anything, but to answer your question.. Noone has the balls in this scene to actually provide any concrete evidence on anything, and when shit hits the fan it's always privately settled and vanishes into a memory. Apart from cases that are beyond saving (eg. Kqly, forsaken etc) If anyone from the top teams was proved cheating, it would hurt the scene more than it would hurt the player. Yes he wouldn't be able to play competitively again for awhile, and he'd have the stigma around him - but the game would be ruined. If someonr got away with cheating in the top circuit, other people must've known too.. And from there it would spiral out of control. The amount these people spend together is unreal, there is literally no way their teammates wouldn't know or at least suspect if not paying much attention. IMO ANYWAY.
2018-12-03 10:57
What exactly are these Nvidia settings and why don't everyone use them? Actually I thought everyone had all settings put on low to unclutter anything possible, except for shadows obviously.
2018-12-03 11:01
astralis is not cheating and they will never cheat in any game except pokemon GOOOOOOO :(
2018-12-03 11:05
k0nfig | 
Germany Trax_ 
2018-12-03 13:17
Europe Ark- 
when you see how much they went into damage control mode I think it's pretty obvious they are taking advantage of thoses settings.
2018-12-03 11:19
Denmark Holymoomoo 
No, now stfu /closed
2018-12-03 11:55
United Kingdom IgglePiggle 
anyone who thinks a team at this level could do anything to get an unfair advantage and not be noticed especially on a t1 lan event is braindead
2018-12-03 11:59
It is not cheating, but valve should change things about the smokes, or just forbid those nvidia settings
2018-12-03 13:09
Faroe Islands rationale 
You are a dumb fuck and Astralis doesn't use this shit for cheaters. There are plenty of videos showing their monitors during LAN tournaments and everything looks normal. Also, tournaments' admins check their monitors all the time which would have revealed such tricks immediately.
2018-12-03 13:19
Other flynttt 
not much if they use the settings just enough for a slight advantage over their oponents would pass admins as well as this was not something well knowed before this drama calling someone dumb only cause u disagree makes u dumb we discussing opnions here
2018-12-03 14:23
Faroe Islands rationale 
There are opinions and there are egregious allegations. Guess which one this is.
2018-12-03 15:25
yeah yeah, blah blah because its always 100% certain that the "admins" are actually qualified professionals on the job. In reality they probably don't know what they're doing at all and just stand there to look formal. (Not every tournament has the same level of anticheating methods either) I mean flusha for example cheated in many majors that you would think has the best anticheat security and admins but somehow he had cheats installed (2014-2015) Cheating is definitely possible since there are so many hoops and tricks to use and there's no way that the admins know to look for every single one of them. This nvidia screen adjustments is just one of the many exploits/cheats. Source: I've read a lot about how cheating in esports works. PS I actually plan to start learning & making my own cheat software just to get an even better idea of it and no I don't plan to cheat in actual games. Just for learning
2018-12-03 16:16
He is saying that the stream often pans over players screens
2018-12-03 16:10
That never translates too well to the stream. It always looks weird.
2018-12-03 16:11
United States CousinBilly 
Yeah I used the settings last night. When everyone’s screen brightness is high everything looks normal when the show the computers on screen. If you didn’t have smokes with the settings and without lines up side by side u wouldn’t know
2018-12-03 16:55
Yes they are
2018-12-03 13:24
Other flynttt 
i made a topic about it already thx for contributing for the discussion hopes are right to a respectful and productive discussion about this subject unfortanally some people likes to be blind have a good day sir
2018-12-03 14:20
Realistically speaking I don't want to accuse them of something, but if they indeed do use exploits(there is no real proof for sth like that) to gain advantage and win millions I would put them in the asshole/cheater/criminal list.
2018-12-03 15:57
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