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Xyp9x Legit or Not?
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United States Thylacyn 
I like xyp9x playstyle but nowadays there is too much confusion about his plays. I tried to collect some of xyp9x clips from the net and you can decide if all of them are legit or not. A. youtu.be/vPR31gzwNk0 B. youtu.be/oQZy9Je2slE C. youtu.be/dcGQdrag2-8 / Before Nvidia Freestyle D. youtu.be/eJrDBGCSquI / After Nvidia Freestyle E. youtu.be/3rIFE85NJ9c F. youtu.be/_UUEL1ZU5GY
2018-12-03 17:09
A Not legit B Not legit C Not legit D Not legit E Not legit F Not legit
2018-12-03 17:19
First one was pre-fire in my opinon nothing special but second one in first clip was little strange when he walks short.
2018-12-03 18:34
Fishy thing in first clip is on 00:26, not the first move. Also after that lock he seems trying to pull through his crosshair. Lul
2018-12-03 18:43
"but second one in first clip was little strange when he walks short" - #31
2018-12-03 18:45
Lol yeah sry dude:)
2018-12-03 19:05
#247
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
> "nowadays" > Clips from 2015/2016 PepoThink.gif
2018-12-05 14:24
he could hear his movement from there that is legit af
2018-12-05 17:15
i think he heard his steps that's why he moved crosshair like that
2018-12-03 21:43
#151
device | 
Denmark CaraX_ 
nt ameriburger
2018-12-04 14:21
A Not legit B Not legit C Not legit D Not legit E Not legit F Not legit
2018-12-03 17:20
B seems fucked up but i can see how he hears and knows all the engles but jesus it still looks weird we need to compere this to other pro's vods. I'm not attacking Astralis in anyway but i'm very interested to hear what astralis or just in general cheat defenders would say.
2018-12-03 18:41
+1
2018-12-04 19:42
cheat defenders will say its coincidence and you also aim at opponents through that much wall all of the time, everyone does it, go check your demos.
2018-12-05 10:41
Guy in #48 seem reasonable to me, we have no prove that cs scene is fake given aslo fact that they banned f0rsaken but that might be like fake ban in the sense to show that "ha we actually ban cheaters" to hide reallity of cheating in the game. Imagine if f0rsaken wasn't banned now and there was threads like this made about him cheating, imo we would get same exact arguments.
2018-12-05 16:53
Legit
2018-12-03 17:20
#4
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Brazil bandicoot 
he installed word.exe in his head
2018-12-03 17:20
still better than cocaine.bat
2018-12-03 18:30
still better than uranium.bat
2018-12-04 06:36
#133
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Denmark Twick_ 
still better than cheats.exe
2018-12-04 08:10
#139
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Australia AU_CS_LUL 
Still better than redbull_notforcommercial.exe
2018-12-04 09:25
#147
JUGi | 
Faroe Islands OH!! 
but can you actually drink them?
2018-12-04 10:13
You can actually drink them *laughs*
2018-12-05 09:02
#176
JUGi | 
Faroe Islands OH!! 
really?!?!?! no way, i thought they were only for the commercials!!
2018-12-05 09:03
U happy in Ence Mr.GodAllu?
2018-12-05 10:09
#180
JUGi | 
Faroe Islands OH!! 
no, i want to rejoin Faze,
2018-12-05 10:10
I hope u manage it Mr.God. Replace Guardian and easy top 1 for u
2018-12-05 10:15
#183
JUGi | 
Faroe Islands OH!! 
ty and obey me!!
2018-12-05 10:16
Now i might believe in God... (Allu) My boss just gave mr 250swiss francs for me doing a good job. Holly fuck friday night its time to party
2018-12-05 10:19
#185
JUGi | 
Faroe Islands OH!! 
the power of me, flows through you, and blesses you with eternal luck
2018-12-05 10:20
Just took the wrong bus. Can I get my luck back pls D:
2018-12-05 12:39
#5
fer | 
Brazil HLTVmarker 
x9p9x look like lumbridge goblin and i was watching anime goblin slayer and it say goblin have extra senses maybe x9p9x not cheating but having genetic advantage over others (just theory, please no ban hltv administration Jonathen e, thanks)
2018-12-03 17:21
haha 8/8
2018-12-03 18:39
Runescape... When you're running through the bridge, trying to reach al-kharid and then the goblin hits you from nowhere
2018-12-03 18:59
Dark wizards in front of the Varrock entrance are even more scary
2018-12-05 12:08
ikrrr hahaha or when you're going to the gnome stronghold and that liquen giants attacks you
2018-12-05 14:28
You are rude aF!!! but legit that comment made my day :')
2018-12-04 09:35
#217
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Brunei z1onastya 
HAAHAHHAHAHHAAHAHHAA
2018-12-05 11:50
A Not legit B Not legit C Not legit D Not legit E Not legit F Not legit
2018-12-03 17:22
niko real tweet was targeting astralis to play more legit and less obv otherwise he will toggel as much as 2014 KQLY
2018-12-03 17:23
BAN this guy and astralis disband
2018-12-03 17:25
hah
2018-12-03 17:26
#10
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Brazil VeryColdGuy 
CRISPY AIM LOCK BOIS
2018-12-03 17:27
Hahaha bois bois that dude need to make one
2018-12-05 07:05
legit
2018-12-03 17:27
#12
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Brazil BanMeIfYouCan 
A: legit B probably legit C probably legit aswell D not legit E probably not legit f LUL
2018-12-03 17:31
E was legit in my opnion, i mean i'm not saying he is cheating but it was weird as fuck.
2018-12-03 18:37
How was E legit? he didn't even move his hand and the aim auto-snapped on an enemy o.o
2018-12-03 21:21
#97
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Sweden flippig 
he did move his hand, are you blind?
2018-12-03 21:27
To the first enemy, yes, not the second one.
2018-12-03 21:38
#111
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Denmark U w0t m8? 
You can see he moves his hand up and shakes it, that is very clear
2018-12-03 22:07
I fucked up, I mean the snap, he didn't do the snap with his hand, u can clearly see his and being still as stone
2018-12-03 21:40
#110
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Denmark U w0t m8? 
E: you can legit see him move his hand like it shows on the gameplay
2018-12-03 22:06
#203
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Denmark kreutch 
D is legit, he could see the player on the radar before he was exiting the smoke Proof: twitter.com/fazeniko/status/106594508377.. twitter.com/YNk/status/10657882238787665..
2018-12-05 10:59
#303
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Brazil centjeefizik 
nvidia settings ;)
2018-12-06 01:51
He has played at the top successfully with and without electronic augment
2018-12-03 17:34
You're just using buzzwords. I think you are more than reasonable in expressing concern, but when you speak in hyperbole like this, it negates the majority of any point you may have.
2018-12-03 17:35
Olof 2 major dosia 1
2018-12-03 19:16
Word only buzz BC I just invented it and my shit so lit [*] [*]
2018-12-03 19:45
swah swah gra gra burr scurr durr hurr
2018-12-03 19:45
wow finland always next level
2018-12-04 05:46
didnt watch but all legit
2018-12-03 17:36
#174
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United States duckkcs 
+1
2018-12-05 08:56
On A. and B. i think he kept the aim key pressed during these clips. Lul
2018-12-03 18:03
#17
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Portugal xxxRUI75xxx 
He´s legit. And I didn´t even bother watching the vids. After so many top lan tournaments he has played, do you really believe he wouldn´t have been caught by now if he was using any hacks ?????
2018-12-03 18:09
If windows defender didnt catch foresaken, noone will prevent him from playing lan tournaments with his shity10$ Cost Cheat.
2018-12-03 18:22
A cheat is not a virus
2018-12-03 18:37
Yeah but the software that Forsaken used for cheating was Ezfrags and like all game hacks, EZfrags can get flagged by antivirus programs because it manipulates the game in a way that wasn't intended by its developer.
2018-12-03 19:14
No
2018-12-05 17:24
Go ezfrags uk page and read the first statement on FAQ page.
2018-12-05 17:32
Windows Defender does not flag the cheat.
2018-12-05 21:09
Install it and try with windows defender than let me know or watch below video: youtu.be/6R06i2P_V8s
2018-12-05 21:40
Yes, it didn't flag Windows Defender.
2018-12-06 00:18
#171
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Russia og_loc 
Yeah, and that is the saddest thing ever bc unless you are caught on the fucking lan by a person standing behind you, you can cheat however you want
2018-12-05 07:54
THAT LAST CLIP LMAOOO
2018-12-03 18:17
Last clip seemed to me that he was just playing on our nervs i mean if he really cheated why would he even shot in that corner, maybe cheat error who knows.
2018-12-03 18:44
The classic mock lock LMFAO he knew exactly were they were just because of the nades they threw XYPGOD
2018-12-03 20:45
+1
2018-12-03 21:18
#308
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Australia CaZeR01 
+1
2018-12-06 09:08
Hes not legit wtf... Wake up hes either abusing some exploit or just cheating. Same with gla1ve. /close
2018-12-03 18:20
#21
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United States circles308 
first one he is clearly watching the shadow, im not watching anymore
2018-12-03 18:22
Fishy thing is on 00:26, not the start of the clip.
2018-12-03 18:24
Second one when he walks on the short in the first clip is little weird to be honest.
2018-12-03 18:39
#23
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Myanmar xdcc 
F. Wow lost all respect
2018-12-03 18:22
legit for overall, he is clutchmeister but so ugly.
2018-12-03 18:23
Cs is fucked now.. this is why dota is da way now
2018-12-03 18:27
#172
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United Kingdom Hamshanks 
Reported for retard
2018-12-05 08:48
ALL LEGIT
2018-12-03 18:31
Xyp9x's biggest influeance was get_right btw in any case somebody didn't knew.
2018-12-03 18:32
#140
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Australia AU_CS_LUL 
GTR didn’t and doesn’t need assistance tho :^)
2018-12-04 09:28
#148
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World ZMDR 
you never know :^)
2018-12-04 10:16
i played against him several times already and he consistently know me on smoke. nice.
2018-12-03 18:35
Big question mark?????????
2018-12-03 18:38
100% legit
2018-12-03 18:38
#36
ecl1pse | 
United States zaydK 
LUL new flusha
2018-12-03 18:38
If somehow xyp9x will be caugh in cheating than imo we can be sure that flusha aslo cheated and imagine how much money and tournaments they won.
2018-12-03 18:39
If there is no whistleblower from inside of pro scene, we will never get the truth. Like Lance Amstrong passed over 500 doping tests without getting caught. But when a whistleblower confess the truth we learned all the shit about the cycling scene. He won 7 tour de france cup with dopings. The organizations, brands, sponsors are always trying to hype all the teams and players. And they try to cover up most of these actions to save their brand value. For example you can’t see an admin at the back of players in big ESL Events. Only coach stands at the back.
2018-12-03 19:04
I will say that i'm little bit bias about cs, i mean i love cs scene and i hope it is not fake but this type of threads make me more skeptical about eras and whole esport.
2018-12-03 19:06
You need to stop smoking pot and get that tinfoil hat off. The lizards aren't out to get you and who the hell would profit out of pro's cheating? If they could have prevented KQLY from getting banned they would have.
2018-12-04 14:24
#39
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Slovakia Kurki 
clutchminister
2018-12-03 18:39
i think the smoke kill thing with xyp and glaive is pretty suspicious.... i don't at all think they're cheating, but there has to be some sort of graphics setting that gives them an edge over their competitors they get more smoke kills than anyone else since the old flusha days... there has to be something going on
2018-12-03 18:40
This clips combined with smoke kills are even more suspicious in my opinion but they will not ban him for sure, this will mean that whole this time CS scene was fucked up.
2018-12-03 18:46
if you watch the demos they do also spray through the smoke more than any other pros do, so naturally when the attempts you take are higher so will the amount of kills. I would like for someone to go through everything, and compare all the times they spammed to get a % of how often there is a kill, and I would bet its on par with other pros... I also understand that nobody will ever take the time out to go through every demo to get this data so its a moot point
2018-12-03 18:49
Yeah i would love to see that as well, funny thing is that every top 1 team is accused of being a cheater either it is fnatic or sk doesn't matter but if you look at other tier 2 teams you can find this kind of clips as well but they are not winning so they aren't cheating lol.
2018-12-03 19:01
^^^ im sure if any other team got as much attention as the #1, especially in an era, you would get the same amount of clips
2018-12-03 19:03
General rule of thumb, any player slowed down looks fishy, watch some of your own games and youll see, moving on A: legit, he probably hears the dude running, or knows thats probably where the dude is. You see pros make guesses and do this kind of stuff all the time. B: Saw the first dude, continued the spray because 9/10 times there is a second dude, switched to looking sandbags as they pushed(likely got the call from gla1ve), was preaiming left and went to look right, probably froze a little as REZ peeks left or reacted to the sounds , xyp moves right/preaims right to fight the xizt that will be pushing out that side, killed him then went back to the left to fight rez. completely legit. C: Sees the first dude in the gap in the smoke, then sprays into the smoke knowing they are pushing and gets them(again, nobody is pushing smokes alone other than stewie) and spraying when you know they are there is common practice. legit D: See the last 3 weeks of argument, the TLDR of this one is that GOTV sucks and what he said about shooting when he saw the shadow or leg in the moment cold moves. legit(even niko apologized for starting shit from nothing) E:Mou just peeked with the awp, possible device heard the scope and called it, maybe not, regardless pros do that "hehe here they are" shit all the time, just watch enough games and youll see them get it right/wrong. legit F: the "fishy" thing came after the smokes and flashblangs came out from fnatic, up 15-3 he decides to screw with the crowd, see previous statements about pros screwing around when they know where the other team is. Again legit Edit: apparently in A cold wasnt running, just looked like it in slow motion. Regardless im sure xyp knows the timing and did that guessing shit pros always do
2018-12-03 18:56
I somewhat agree, i made same exact point about F
2018-12-03 18:48
a lot of the confusion is the fact that casual fans dont understand how smart pro cs players usually are, ESPECIALLY glaive, xyp and fallen(who often gets more kills through smoke than gla1ve and xyp, in head to head matchups
2018-12-03 18:50
in A he doesn't run at all and it seem to be little weird to do this stewie like guesses with mouse especially in the situation like him when enemy can pop up any second.
2018-12-03 18:50
sorry, with the slow motion it looked like he was running, in that case its the same guessing shit you always see pros do
2018-12-03 18:54
I'm not saying that anybody cheats but i personally think that this situation was weird, maybe it was guess but mostly players guess like that when they actually hear the opponent run, i do it quite a lot myself but he didn't heard him, he was also in the situation when somebody could popped up any second and killed him, when you are waiting for somebody to come any second you don't guess like that right?
2018-12-03 18:58
because youre on a pistol with no armor in a 1v4 against a full buy, the round is over, even for xyp a clutch would be asking too much
2018-12-03 19:00
Yeah right but still he can hope for at least gun or one kill especially when they are losing like 9-1, maybe you are right but i still don't understand that random guess in that situation.
2018-12-03 19:03
im sure the 9-11 was just a typo. but if you have watched MIBR games you know fallen does not allow saved guns, with 1:20 still on the clock+45 for bomb. pros know that fallen has MIBR hunt guns in that situation. I give him a 5% chance of living IF that.(they also have more than enough money for a full buy in the next round so saving a guns isnt the most important thing, rather than taking one away from MIBR, which you can see is on his mind as he keeps chasing, preaiming for connecter, unfortunately stewie was playing some stupid off angle Edit: I removed the TLDR being I rambled on after, forgetting it was supposed to be a tldr
2018-12-03 19:26
Hence he was comfortable to do whatever he wanted, i mean he was sort of free spirit at that moment and didn't care much in that situation, i guess that's the case.
2018-12-03 19:21
C : i will add that he also heard second player shooting in smoke so he probably saw him on map as well, so he shot him and randomly got second one as well.
2018-12-03 19:12
See, I want to say that would be shooting off the sound Q, but at the same time back in the TSM days CSGO sounds sucked... so im not sure where to go with that. regardless somehow he made the educated guess from the facts of the situation
2018-12-03 19:35
Imo we heard it so they can, sounds were captured in the video as they were back in the days, you can clearly hear the difference between now and than sound, so he heard it and when he shots you can see him on the map i believe.
2018-12-03 19:39
The point of E is not that he look on the enemy through the wall, He looks at 1 enemy, and the aim auto flicks to another enemy without him moving his hand.
2018-12-03 21:24
im sorry but thats complete nonsense... you can clearly see him move his entire arm
2018-12-03 21:26
To the first enemy, yes? Not the 2nd one
2018-12-03 21:38
I fucked up, I mean the snap, he didn't do the snap with his hand, u can clearly see his and being still as stone
2018-12-03 21:42
I checked again to humor you, I cant understand how youre saying the hand didnt move after the initial arm movement. the video is so zoomed in on such low quality video in the dark, that all you see is a blur, and youre saying you can 100% confirm that his hand didnt move an inch... listen to what youre saying Edit, I just saw the "enhanced" video, and you can clearly see him move a large amount, stop for a moment, and then continue his mouse movement. The enlarged video is just out of sync with the game feed
2018-12-03 22:16
you hopefully realize its perfectly possible to toggle aimbot to get an exact position, while moving your mouse in the direction you already think the enemy is in? whether he moved his mouse or not is completetely irrelevant to the question whether he cheated. otherwise kjarbye is clean too lol
2018-12-05 10:44
I hate to tell you, but KJarbye is clean lol... there isnt a single clip that doesnt have a clear cut explanation behind it. I hate appealing to authority but there is not a single reputable professional player, or talent who thinks Kjarbye cheats. (and its not like pros dont call out players for cheating, look at the tyloo guys with forsaken)
2018-12-05 15:54
youtube.com/watch?v=wY3YB47M6G4 check how he shoots at get right in slow motion its some kind of weirdly configured aimbot that pulls his crosshair back to target before a bullet is shot, and he is shaking like an idiot to pull it off target.
2018-12-05 16:27
tbh this just looks like nervous, shaky aim. If you look at 17 seconds(after forest goes behind the wall/before the repeek you see him do the same shaky aim shit with forest nowhere near his crosshairs. also keep in mind in 2016 GOTV demos saved at 30 FPS and are always choppy, so the snaps are much more exaggerated than if you watched it today/live. There is actually proof in this vid that kjarbye is clean, because he had the same shaky nervous aim when nobody was behind the crosshairs. If you found more clips like this you would have a case but none of the other"cheating" clips,that I have seen, have this type of spastic aim Edit: I am going to watch this map tho to see if any of his other gunfights were shaky in the slightest, if so/not it may have been nerves in that game
2018-12-05 17:12
at 17 sec you can see how his aim starts to shake exactly when forest goes behind the wooden wall because the aimbot doesnt want to aim into the wall, it stops at the edge.
2018-12-05 17:13
are you telling me that this "weirdly configured aimbot", which 5 seconds prior had gotten him a headshot through boxes on site(with the same shaky shit), is smart enough to stop tracking someone once they walk behind a wall and not just shoot forest in the head like it did to pyth?
2018-12-05 17:17
that shot on pyth was a moving shot, bullet didnt even go near his crosshair, just a lucky hs
2018-12-05 17:19
here i just saw the same in this round twitch.tv/videos/344495838?t=01h09m02s its one of the ways to spot who is aimbotting, weird crosshair shaking around edges
2018-12-05 17:15
and btw if you watch this round from the start you can have some fun watching natosafix struggle to pretend hes not using aimbot
2018-12-05 17:17
in what way is that an aimbot? thats a clean af round, the first two kills were clean, the third was a little shaky, and he obviously cracked under the pressure as soon as the 1v5 ace became a possibility... There is absolutely nothing fishy about that clip whatsoever
2018-12-05 17:23
sure his aim is just all over the place and hes getting all the headshots with that shitty technique, nothing to see here
2018-12-05 17:23
because I currently have nothing better to do at work RN, these pictures are one frame apart, it was not moving shot inaccuracy, it was the fact that GOTV demos only save 1 out of every 4 frames, so the cursor clearly moved between the two frames(128tick lan servers vs 30fps game demos) imgur.com/a/csGTH4x
2018-12-05 17:53
ok
2018-12-05 18:13
only the first shot was clean
2018-12-05 17:25
These players are not silvers, how you can predict that, most of his Shaky frag clips are because of his shaky nervous aim. This guy has minimum thousands of hour practice on lan and online matches. And they were already have score advantage so how he can became that much nervous. And the crosshair snap to head like in 1 tick time frame.
2018-12-05 18:24
For the last snap there is no movement and key part is that little lock. In the middle of the clip where slowmotion starts he move crosshair to a position but then crosshair instantly lock the person. May be he lifted his mouse like flusha at that point.
2018-12-03 21:42
#113
2018-12-03 22:14
Can you share the enhanced video link? Thnx
2018-12-03 23:09
Xyp9x ?
2018-12-03 23:31
the "enhanced" is actually in this video, further in the video the guy edits it to brighten and enlarge it
2018-12-04 15:52
Good arguments
2018-12-04 01:03
Nt Gla1ve
2018-12-04 09:24
wrong IGL, I played for tsm ;)
2018-12-04 15:53
no he's cheating...Ofc he's legit are u stupid?
2018-12-03 18:50
Legit if you have a functioning brain. Not if you're a teenager playing alot of fortnite
2018-12-03 18:52
+1
2018-12-03 20:46
Not Legit
2018-12-03 18:53
He's legit if u haven't brain.
2018-12-03 19:03
#64
Xyp9x | 
Brazil Jeanzera 
Legit
2018-12-03 19:04
That last clip vs fnatic wtf
2018-12-03 19:06
yea wtf indeed
2018-12-03 19:20
2notlegit2quit
2018-12-03 19:20
#75
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United States f0xes` 
That last clip vs. fnatic look @ the score. I remember both shox and f0rest doing things similar to this on LAN to troll the community.
2018-12-03 19:21
+1 yup
2018-12-03 19:22
ah yes you mean shox "trolling" by toggling aimbot in 1v3 at 14 15 vs nip, yes very funny men, good joke.
2018-12-05 10:46
#78
Toxic | 
Croatia ^BCko^ 
ROFL he was definitely cheating in the past. Just watch this blatant compilation. youtube.com/watch?v=ZyDV1i7-W8s
2018-12-03 19:24
#79
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Norway supremoxd 
In the last video, i dont get it why he would shoot with the usp there. Makes no sense
2018-12-03 19:26
#48, tells you everything you need to know
2018-12-03 19:27
#84
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Norway supremoxd 
good arguments, ty
2018-12-03 19:39
Generally you throw the nades from the same spots in a main. Eventually you can pre aim the spots. He heard the nades and was simply baiting for his team so they don’t peak forklift
2018-12-03 19:53
#81
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United Kingdom L1ghtn1ng 
yes
2018-12-03 19:33
#88
gla1ve | 
Tunisia @BOLT 
slow motions would make things more complicated lol A and B r 100% legit and there is nothing wrong with them trust me. C he kills the guy once he showed up and took some random shots through the smoke and that's what everyone probably gonna do especially on 26 seconds time left, as i told u slow motions makes things more complicated and fishy bcoz in this case it looks like the he locks on the second player's head and directly transfer to the last player at this point u still don't have enough evidence. D to be honest we don't know which config he using and which settings and we don't know how it looks like from his perspective i think the demo viewer kinda broken at this point and we all know its not well optimized, but from our perspective we saw him took the shots before the player's leg could be seen as what he said( i saw his feet ) which we didn't so this clip still not confirmed we need to get exactly his monitor config and game and NVIDIA settings in order to call this a cheat. E I'd say its not supposed to be on the list because every single one of us does that every time even me when there is literally nothing to look at but u still place your crosshair towards the wall which everyone do(when u kinda like holding a spot or just watching a door entrance for example but u still look and place ur crosshair towards the wall and you could have locked at someone else's head at that point without you knowing), i wont call it lucky that his crosshair locked exactly at the player through the wall but it could be, as u can see on the camera he moved his hand on purpose towards the wall so this clip shouldn't be listed. last clip as well every pro player does these sort of things and just tryn to guess the players location by either moving his crosshair around one spot or just like placing his crosshair on 2 close spots just like this one and we've seen pro players tryn to do these sort of crosshair placement but by the time he's doing it there is nobody actually there which would make it a wrong guess and we would eventually call him either retarded or wrong or just laugh at him( you know twitch chat) but this time it was luckily exactly none of these are confirmed. this is my personal opinion idk about the others. im not an astralis fan but i enjoy watching them owning n dominating the scene.
2018-12-03 20:28
Pros are always guessin’ but never confessin’.
2018-12-03 20:46
The thing about E is not that he turn around and aims on an enemy, its that tiny snap he does after turning around without moving his hand.
2018-12-03 21:59
And on the clip his hand doesnt move at all? or are my eyes just deceiving me? D:
2018-12-03 22:00
No, I just dl the clip, zoomed in, he doesnt move his hand a single bit after the turnaround.
2018-12-03 22:01
Yeah i saw the same thing. People couldnt realize other snaps while cross hair is on the opponent. But that snap is making it so obvious while tracing empty side wall. Pros are also skilled enough to hide these kind of additional digital reflex dopings.
2018-12-04 07:02
nice explanations, i have another one: its aimbot
2018-12-05 10:48
Ez cheaters sponsored by valve ;)
2018-12-03 21:22
Remember when Astralis was a complete shit team and none of the players did anything spectacular? Pros really "improve" fast these days, just as fast as the old gods died.
2018-12-03 21:41
The core of Astralis was ranked #1 all the way back in 2015, they rivaled fnatic during their era winning 7 out of 8 bo3s against them. Are you baiting or severely uninformed about the scene?
2018-12-04 05:54
TF are you talking? This guy has been considered by the community as the best clutcher and best hard support the game has ever seen before this year even began you are making shit up or are a new fag.
2018-12-04 07:03
He was never really considered the best clutches until that event when he did 1v4 vs vp, where he break Snax 1vx clutch record on a single event, that was the start of his recognition.
2018-12-04 14:18
start of his recognition as the best clutcher*
2018-12-04 14:18
#211
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Indonesia linekerrr 
That was before this year, no?
2018-12-05 11:04
No, that was at the eleague major, wasn't it?
2018-12-05 14:05
No, that was at the eleague major, wasn't it?
2018-12-05 14:05
Where vp choked the fuck out of overpass in an 14-9 lead and train in a 14-11 lead xD
2018-12-05 14:05
While winning the first map which makes it even more sad cus it was astralis first pick xddd
2018-12-05 14:06
And that was the beginning of their downfall, ever since that major they started playing complete dogs hit.
2018-12-05 14:06
#243
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Indonesia linekerrr 
they didn't even play VP at this year's major so.. it was in 2017 dogshit = constant semis/qfs OK
2018-12-05 14:10
Oh shit my memory is fucking me xD Im talking about vp. They reached 3 semis this year 4 qfs, which 2 were big event qualifiers. No idea how that is constant lol
2018-12-05 14:13
#245
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Indonesia linekerrr 
ok thx for reminding
2018-12-05 14:18
First one is literally nothing, the last one is also improbable. Looks weird but what's the point in cheating there? They are up by a ton and on pistols. Might just be fucking around and caught a weird glimpse. The rest of them are blatant as fuck, every team that has dominated for lengthy periods has obviously cheated (don't know about nip didn't watch then). They need to start banning actual pros and make a statement not these nobodies no one cares about.
2018-12-03 21:47
man if i got a dollar every time i thought "whats the point in cheating here" when some idiot toggles aimbot in a 4v1 or on 15-3, id be rich
2018-12-05 10:50
Comment makes no sense. In that situation, there's no point to cheat and it's obvious he is fucking with spectators.
2018-12-05 11:57
sure or he is just bored of winning 15-3 with cheats and clicks on some enemies through walls like its a trust factor MM game
2018-12-05 11:58
dont tell me youve never played with a pretty sus guy who isnt completely blatant, and then he suddenly starts wallbanging everyone at the end of the game
2018-12-05 11:59
Not within my memory span because I haven't played MM in ages. Not sure what you're arguing because I do think Astralis cheats and most of those clips are fishy, just not those two.
2018-12-05 12:04
just by itself the clip isnt that fishy but in combination with all the others it is
2018-12-05 12:14
It always looks bad when you slow it down, but it's hard to not admit these clips smell slightly of fish.
2018-12-03 21:48
+1
2018-12-04 18:44
this is worst evidence ever. he dont cheat ffs
2018-12-03 22:11
Lmao none of these are remotely fishy. One of the smartest, most experienced players in the world. Get a life, stop witch hunting pros
2018-12-04 05:52
hurr durr witch humt
2018-12-05 10:51
#212
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Indonesia linekerrr 
hUrR dUrR wITCh hUnT
2018-12-05 11:05
No actual evidence as usual just the premise that its not impossible that they're cheating
2018-12-05 12:38
well the only people who can give actual evidence are the players themselves, the tournament orgs, and valve, and guess what, they arent interested...
2018-12-05 12:43
+1
2018-12-06 07:54
A: Legit B: Fishy as fuck. C: Legit D: Legit E: Fishy F: wtf fishy
2018-12-04 06:21
#122
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Turkey KOKSALTARES 
only watched F but why would he use aimlock when they are up 15-3 and they are ecoing xD
2018-12-04 06:36
Its a habit
2018-12-04 09:22
+1
2018-12-04 21:23
Haters gonna hate
2018-12-04 06:46
#125
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Finland siloquez 
Some of those truly look suspicious and he got a nice skillboost couple years ago... Wouldn't be amazed if he was caught but I don't suspect him.. Flusha on the other hand I can say 100% cheated at one point.
2018-12-04 06:49
What is suspicious about the first clip? I didnt care to check out the rest. There is nothing to see. youre just one of those pathetic whiners who cant take your team is losing to astralis.
2018-12-04 06:56
Fishy thing in first clip is on 00:26, not the first move.
2018-12-04 07:06
that is not fishy? he expect another player to pop up from short because teams use bait and switch tactics and he knows that so he is ready to shoot the short guy before he comes, he doesnt come though. Its called reading the game and xyp is one of the best at this. This is just a testement to how bad players your writing this post is nothing more. You simply don't understand the thought process of a good player.
2018-12-04 07:16
May be you are right he is reading the game perfectly as he can snap his cross to the guy in the pipe according to sound cue. But there is something weird with the play in other clips. Flusha’s clips have the similar characteristics. Flusha also called clutch master and i think that is because, he used some sort of script to assist his aim for locating opponents. Then hunt them one by one.
2018-12-04 07:56
actually he snapped to the guy with aimbot, then dragged the crosshair off and waved it around a bit as if he was guessing that he heard sound from further left.
2018-12-05 10:54
flusha just used aimbot through walls, just like xyp, nothing complicated about it.
2018-12-05 10:54
#131
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United States subzera 
only one that looked sus to me was the first smoke clip. other than that, 100% legit
2018-12-04 07:16
the last clip not suspicious??? wtf
2018-12-04 08:15
#135
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United States subzera 
so you dont randomly shoot at stuff when youre on a full eco and up 15-3? a lot of regular stuff can look sketchy if you turn xray on
2018-12-04 08:59
#136
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Finland Karri 
hes legit fuck off
2018-12-04 09:01
#142
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Australia AU_CS_LUL 
A is weird, the flick to the guy through the wall is legit + the first shot (brain on autopilot, you see experienced players do this quite a bit), but there’s no reason for him to shoot twice. The flick on the guy in Pipe proves this is not legit, there is no reason for your xhair to be there and Xyp plays on 800x1.0 so it’s not a sens overflick. B is impossible to tell. Looks suss in slow mo but could just be luck. Only the first flick onto Xizt is suss, the next one is a preaim where the guy just happens to be there. C is probably legit. The kill on Seized is just luck and Guardian shot so Xyp can find him in the smoke. D has been talked about a shitload, nothing really to talk about. Xyp’s explanation is plausible. E: Device hears them in Halls, Xyp is fucking with spectators. F: Xyp knows they’re there because of their nades, he’s memeing again. 2/8 try finding some actual clips OP.
2018-12-04 09:45
+1
2018-12-04 10:07
Yeah as you said, the first one is more fishy for me when he snaped his crosshair to the opponent in the pipe.
2018-12-04 16:57
clicking on enemies through half the map "ooh he's memin' " no you dumb fuck he is bored of winning with wallhacks and doesnt even give a fuck that he is clicking on enemies through walls because stupid fanboys like you will deny it anyway
2018-12-05 10:56
#218
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Australia AU_CS_LUL 
Silver 3 player spotted.
2018-12-05 11:53
2015 flusha defenders called, they want their stupid insults back
2018-12-05 11:57
#227
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Australia AU_CS_LUL 
You have no real evidence to prove that any shady activity happens at the pro level. You have coincidences and random clips, most of which can be explained away by anyone who has 2000+ hours in any CS. Your entire account is dedicated to this one retarded conspiracy theory, in which the vast majority of pro players utilise cheats for literally no reason. I have never seen a person who purports this conspiracy theory give an actual motive for all of these pros (names I’ve seen include up to 90% of Top 30 players) going to incredible lengths to hide the fact that they are using external software. If you say this kind of dumb shit, you clearly fall into one of two groups. 1) You are too inexperienced at the game to know how much info can be gained in CS by so little, or 2) You have failed at an attempt to go pro, and don’t have the brain or the balls to fix your issues, so you instead blame it on others using external software.
2018-12-05 12:12
what do you mean no one can give a motive? there are million dollar prize pools at tournaments and there is very low chance of getting caught unless you use a public detected cheat and rename it word.exe
2018-12-05 12:15
i have never tried to go pro in fps games. when i started playing, there was a cheating problem, and there still is. i played in some clans in cod. most of the teams we played against had cheats on toggle in case they thought others were cheating. some guys on my clans used cheats. they are everywhere. i started watching cs games in 2015 and it was pretty obvious fnatic were cheating. then you get Keyd/LG/SK who come out of nowhere with the same kind of clips as flusha. And now Astralis are on top. the only way it makes sense is if Astralis cheats too. and the fact that they hired fucking kjaerbye tells me they arent even trying to hide it.
2018-12-05 12:19
+1 Finally somebody with brain. I have done this a lot of times too because people can't see what information you get from teammates
2018-12-05 12:41
WHY DID U HAVE TO SLOW IT DOWN
2018-12-04 09:51
Because you all have slow brains
2018-12-04 10:09
#144
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Denmark Bal0 
I don't think he's cheating. Like every pro csgo player have clips like those
2018-12-04 09:56
#162
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Australia AU_CS_LUL 
Try to find an Edward clip that looks like that.
2018-12-05 06:45
youtu.be/Ck0XkegBLq8 Here you go, buddy. (Don't think he's cheating though)
2018-12-05 09:11
he cheated at that event, as did every player that had this weird issue with their aimbot accelerating super fast. edward, flusha, fnx, felps, i watched them have that same problem at katowice 2016. not only did those 4 and probably way more players all cheat that event, they all used the same cheat.
2018-12-05 10:57
It was a super sketchy event for sure...
2018-12-05 14:28
#295
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Australia AU_CS_LUL 
Wait, which part is the aimbot?
2018-12-05 22:02
The wierd flick into the wall at 0:54. Not saying it’s aimbot - you just asked for shady Edward clips...
2018-12-05 22:08
l e g i t e g i t
2018-12-04 14:22
B is impossible to tell. Looks suss in slow mo but could just be luck. Only the first flick onto Xizt is suss, the next one is a preaim where the guy just happens to be there. C is probably legit. The kill on Seized is just luck and Guardian shot so Xyp can find him in the smoke. D has been talked about a shitload, nothing really to talk about. Xyp’s explanation is plausible. E: Device hears them in Halls, Xyp is fucking with spectators. F: Xyp knows they’re there because of their nades, he’s memeing again. 2/8 try finding some actual clips OP.
2018-12-04 19:45
#160
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Hungary OwlOfMoist 
Flag checks out
2018-12-04 19:50
#163
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Australia AU_CS_LUL 
:thinking:
2018-12-05 06:46
if you find "hes meming" a good enough explanation then there is no hope for you anyway
2018-12-05 10:58
A. Legit B. Legit C. Legit D. Legit E. Legit F. Legit
2018-12-05 06:46
this is so dumb
2018-12-05 06:48
I cant believe that people actually believe he is cheating, like cmon he isnt the clutch minister for nothing
2018-12-05 07:20
he is the clutch minister because he cheats, yes.
2018-12-05 10:59
He has just a good gaming chair
2018-12-05 07:28
#169
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Denmark Cleandog 
All legit. If you saw your own crosshair placement you would have 100s of similar "fishy" random placementes. Also astralis playes have started to indicate enemy players througt walls to show viewers that they know how to use radar, headsets and gamesense. Smoke kills could easily be legit while we all from time to time have smoke glitches which is no ones fault except nvidia and valve.
2018-12-05 07:38
>Also astralis playes have started to indicate enemy players througt walls to show viewers that they know how to use radar, headsets and gamesense. ay yes the old flusha excuses from his most blatant period in 2015 are starting to resurface. why dont you just say xyp was lifting his mouse in all these clips lol
2018-12-05 11:00
Flusha never cheated, change my mind.
2018-12-05 17:01
no thanks i have better things to do, i hope you are happy in your fantasy world
2018-12-05 17:03
Says conspiracy nut
2018-12-05 17:04
gullible kid
2018-12-05 17:08
#296
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Australia AU_CS_LUL 
+1
2018-12-05 22:03
#283
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Denmark Cleandog 
I think you grossly underestimate the ability for good players to estimate positions of enimies from sound cues, team info and radar. Doing a lot of cs go overwatch imo at least 2/3 of accused players are just very skilled and victim of silver noob players lack of gamesense and therefore reporting.
2018-12-05 18:31
i think the first clip in the OP clearly shows how xyp locks on to the player in the tunnel and then shakes his aim off the guy. if i see that in overwatch i know what i'm voting.
2018-12-06 02:14
I always see this "if you saw your own crosshair placement you would also have fishy plays". Bullshit, I spec myself and teammates quite often and it never looks like what these cheaters are doing.
2018-12-05 11:59
if you watch a lot of demos you will sometimes notice someone aiming at an enemy through a wall while lifting their mouse, it does happen, but not nearly as frequently as it does for ppl who use aimbot.
2018-12-05 17:11
#284
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Denmark Cleandog 
I think you grossly underestimate the ability for good players to estimate positions of enimies from sound cues, team info and radar. Doing a lot of cs go overwatch imo at least 2/3 of accused players are just very skilled and victim of silver noob players lack of gamesense and therefore reporting.
2018-12-05 18:32
I think you grossly underestimate the number of top athletes who cheat in all sports.
2018-12-05 18:36
#286
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Denmark Cleandog 
hmmmm, could be. Time will tell.
2018-12-05 18:41
Xyp9x just ugly, no hax
2018-12-05 08:49
#177
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Denmark Bagjo 
..... jesus christ.
2018-12-05 09:06
#182
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Israel _69 
hes hot boi
2018-12-05 10:15
#297
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Australia AU_CS_LUL 
Since Norwegian people are ugly af, expected response.
2018-12-05 22:04
#307
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Israel _69 
Ur mom is ugly
2018-12-06 08:15
#186
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Germany AYEONV 
Just ban gla1ve and xyp9x already
2018-12-05 10:26
No wonder why from legendary players like GeT_RiGhT, F0rest, NEO you don't see this kind of shady clips.
2018-12-05 10:35
items B and E are the kind of clip that convinced me he is cheating when i saw them live
2018-12-05 10:39
#189
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Kazakhstan dc7 
he just plays smarter than every other pro because he read all those thicc text books in university
2018-12-05 10:39
#190
roman | 
Palestine ndr[o] 
whoever survived november 2014 is legit.
2018-12-05 10:40
#192
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Poland DYSKREje 
bruh like cmon many of pros are cheating :) if u dont know it u are silver
2018-12-05 10:43
All clips are legit, but the E and F omg dude, has nothing argument to defend him
2018-12-05 10:46
#205
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Kazakhstan dc7 
E) he points his xhair in the direction of sound cues so he doesnt get caught off guard, most good players do it (yes its obvious like 3 of them jumped down from brown halls like elephants) they couldve been closer than he expected so he points his mouse towards the sound just incase F) his team is on a save so its best to stack if you have early info, he knows at least 1 used util in A main but doesnt know numbers, he has rough idea where they would be huddled if they are and shoots a couple of bullets checking for frame drops or recoil changes dont expect players whove been playing less than 10 years to know this witty kind of stuff
2018-12-05 10:58
if you hear ppl jumping in B apps, you should look at the door of ramp, not aimbot on them through the wall
2018-12-05 11:01
what xyp9x does there is, he hears the sound, he then toggles aimbot to confirm the exact enemy positions, so he knows he has enough time to go to to the ladder and to upper without making sound. if they were rushing down the ramp instead of waiting, he would go spools and not get caught out. ezpz
2018-12-05 11:03
#213
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Kazakhstan dc7 
cringe af
2018-12-05 11:06
ah well i dont expect players whove been playing less than 10 years to know this witty kind of stuff
2018-12-05 11:13
#215
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Kazakhstan dc7 
yes won and done you are actually correct, thats why valve is banning xyp9x rn as we speak ...idiot
2018-12-05 11:36
yer a genuine retard if you believe valve has any reason to ban any cheaters. you fanboys dont want to see it, so there is no problem.
2018-12-05 11:48
yes man, it does not make sense to put the aim in that position usually takes a look at the entrance of the ramp
2018-12-05 14:24
OMG XYPIX IS CHEATZZZ OMG OMG HE HAS HACKINGZ IN HIS GAMEZ!!!!!! VAC VAC VAC
2018-12-05 10:55
100% legit Ez for supernation Denmark
2018-12-05 12:40
Legit Until someone proves the opposite
2018-12-05 12:41
#237
PlesseN | 
Sweden zhok1 
l e g i t
2018-12-05 12:48
#248
chrisJ | 
United Kingdom dv-_- 
Not cheating, anyone who thinks otherwise is a complete moron. This site would be better if we just permanently banned all the kids making these retarded threads every day - anyone who thinks these are cheating isn't intelligent enough to have a proper conversation on a forum anyway, it's not like they'll be missed.
2018-12-05 14:27
i give this tea bag a fat +1
2018-12-05 15:56
#254
Aleksib | 
Finland xore1 
+1
2018-12-05 15:59
whoever says hes isnt legit come and 1v1 in roblox fegs
2018-12-05 15:56
#255
Aleksib | 
Finland xore1 
A. Legit B. Legit C. Legit D. Legit E. Legit F. Legit
2018-12-05 16:01
players who play more with brain than with raw skill, are all fishy the problem is: when a team is dominating, the "clutch" or "brain" player will look more fishy for noobs, but those guys always played like that, and still playing like that after their team go down example: flusha and fnx when fnatic rekting everyone: flusha with low sens, kills truh smoke, fishy keyboard hits etc, kids be like "HES CHEATINGGG ON DA GEAR BOISS" when LG sk was dominating: fnx with ugly screen, playing all about flicks, with one of the worst crosshair placements ever, but clutching a lot, having right game sense everytime, doing a lot of hs's, silves be like "OMG HE CHEATING HE BOT NOW HE GOT HE CHEATSSS ON DA GEAH BAIS"
2018-12-05 16:01
Astralis had just one cheater in their roster - kjaerbye , they figured it out and kicked him. All other players in this team are legit no doubts.
2018-12-05 16:31
Quick reminder that xyp9x was on the top 20 list way back in 2013, he has been a solid player for a long ass time and suprise: playing at a high level for a long time actually makes you a better player! stop crying hacks everytime your favourite team loses and just enjoy some fucking cs jesus christ
2018-12-05 16:37
Put the first video at 0.25 xD
2018-12-05 17:26
#280
gla1ve | 
Denmark topres 
Plebs lol
2018-12-05 17:55
Remember these days guys because these are the good days of us. At least you can catch an aim or wall cheat by your bare eyes. 3 years ago it was so obvious when you saw a cheaters aim. But now players using different methods to humanize their cheats with developers. This became like a war technology first developed for Pros for huge amount of money then cheaper public versions fill the scene. When you search youtube for “cs go cheat” and filter it newest upload date, you will understand what i am trying tell. Each day thousands of new cheats, cheat updates and reviews uploaded to Youtube. How this shit became a huge market like that ? Lul
2018-12-05 19:01
A Not legit B Not legit C Not legit D Not legit E Not legit F Not legit
2018-12-05 19:20
I find it scary that so many people are actully this stupid.. he does a few prefires when no resultat and he aim towards people that are stepping like a horse running wild .... haha xD Astralis and specially not xyp9x wouldnt cheat on lan, it would cost them their million dollar careers
2018-12-05 21:43
When Lance Amstrong winning his 7th tour de France cup, critics all telling him like super human. But then a teammate tell everything about the real thing. And Lance Amstrong confess that he used doping drugs in all 7 race. It didnt cost him anything but meanwhile he earned 120million$ during these race. Same thing for athletes they are all using doping drugs. They are all older than cs go pros and more experienced in life. It is more difficult for them to taking this kind of risks. But they all cheated in every type of race even for more smaller prices. And you are telling me that this pro kids are not able to cheat on lan while millions of dollars are on the hook. While sport athletes taking risk of carrying their cheating materials in their blood , is it imposible for cs go pros’ to carry these scripts with any sort of pc peripherals. You guys want us to believe no pro is cheating but we are also playing that game and know the mechanics. If you put your nationality aside can you believe that no one is cheating in pro scene. I dont believe any anti-cheat will catch them. Only a whistleblower from inside of these teams will prove these things, like in other sport events.
2018-12-05 22:56
that is just much wall of text... but everybody was doping, I dont think there has EVER been a clean win in tour de france... even the danish chicken doped himself but it got discovered purely cuz of his own mistakes... the danish winner Bjarne Ris was doped as fuck.. everybody used and it will never be a clean sport.. everybody doesnt cheat in csgo and specially not pro's, infact there has only been a few cases of cheat and its nearly impossible to cheat on lan.
2018-12-05 23:32
You don’t need to explain anything to me with that nick.
2018-12-06 01:42
the smell of virginity is hard in this post
2018-12-05 21:45
Nvidia.EXE Why should a top 1 team hack? they played this game so long practising 8 hrs nearly every day and people still thinking he is hacking? like tf
2018-12-05 21:51
So many retards in here, ofc xyp doesnt cheat you fuckng newbs, hes Pro you aint, live with it.
2018-12-06 08:01
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