My point is.. do you think its a coincidence that to your eyes the only 2 players on past C9 teams that arent overrated are the 2 players that have been set up to succeed by their teams the most ? Its not. Your list sucks, as does your understanding of this game. Tim even did an interview with doubletap where he expressed sympathy for Stewie playing the bitchiest of bitchroles and ruining the fuck out of his stats only for him (Tim) to succeed. If their in game roles had been reversed, youd now be calling Tim overrated. Youre welcome. Now youre a little less clueless.