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United States ElonMusk 
Everyone that is crying about F2P & cheaters should realize that Valve probably deployed the Vacnet on a much larger scale with this update. They are confident on Vacnet working.
2018-12-07 01:06
Trustfactor is literally GOD TIER if you get a cheater stop being a bitch in matchmaking
2018-12-07 01:06
Brazil frajolla 
True, trustfactor is the best. Since it have been implemented, playing solo have been magnific.
2018-12-07 01:16
ropz | 
United Kingdom Roarhaven 
I actually haven’t encountered a cheater (at least an obvious one) in over 100 games since vacnet.
2018-12-07 01:40
Yeah I haven't been getting any when I go prime (mostly) recently but almost every game in trustfactor will have at least one.
2018-12-07 01:51
Well thats because your trustfactor is shit
2018-12-07 02:17
and as I've said to others - some players are punished for simply being better than the people in their rank. I literally only give callouts in mm
2018-12-07 02:18
Trustfactor is absolute wank. I've got 4k hours 1.3k wins and have been playing this game for years legit and yet I can't play mm on trustfactor without a hacker (usually multiple) every game. If you're quite good at the game you get fucked by trustfactor as everyone reports good players when they can't handle people being better than them.
2018-12-07 01:26
because your literally a toxic piece of garbage lmfao
2018-12-07 01:27
??? I only give callouts in mm? Literally don't remember the last time I even expressed an opinion in game let alone acted toxic.
2018-12-07 01:27
"f you're quite good at the game you get fucked by trustfactor as everyone reports good players when they can't handle people being better than them." I can tell from this quote you definitely shit talk alot in matchmaking. Especially to your team
2018-12-07 01:29
Okay except I don't? If you're barely above average in your rank then you will get the odd 'impressive' kill. If you have even a slightly decent gamesense you'll get a couple of kills with prefire or through smoke. That's all it takes for half the other team to report someone in this game. I'm not even that good at this game and I get completely fucked by trustfactor, so I feel bad for anyone that's actually fairly good - or a pro on a dif account. Once again, I literally only give callouts on mm. If someone is being toxic towards me I simply don't even respond. Seems pretty clear from your messages here that you're probably a lot more toxic than I am mate.
2018-12-07 01:33
Brazil Eneas56 
Some kids are stupid enough to believe all valve says, I legitly just play with friends, once a month or maybe in more time I play solo and I always get a screaming, crazy kid...
2018-12-07 01:30
Yeah I know it's painful. I don't even try matchmaking anymore.
2018-12-07 01:33
because your friends trust factor effects your mm experience. I swear you guys are so idiotic. The system is literally made to show that people like you guys who are complaining are the main ones who are toxic/problematic in game. If your having a bad experience its because YOU were part of the problem or you are playing WITH someone who i part of the problem. its so funny to see you guys play innocent out here but we all know how TF works hahahaha
2018-12-07 01:36
If you're toxic - correct. If you're getting reported by people simply because they're triggered they're losing/think I'm hacking - how in the world are we the 'problem'?
2018-12-07 01:37
whatever you say, you keep ulling this BS about being reported for hacking yetyou also agree with someone complaining about getting screamers on your team. Obviously your doing more than what you say. Plus just stfu, you keep saying your being reported for cheating off 1 kill but your also better than these other people? just stop the madness.
2018-12-07 01:40
Tbh I feel like you must be baiting at this point? Firstly - you seem very toxic yourself. Secondly - I'm not doing 'more than what I say'. It's not people's fault if they get reported for cheating. I was global but don't really play mm. So when I have played I've been against LEMs/Supremes. Most games were initially easy and I would say 2 in every 3 I would get multiple people in the other team calling me a hacker and pasting their reports. I don't believe I'm that good, many toxic people simply can't handle losing. Since then I'm now unable to play trustfactor without likely getting one or more hackers. As much as it is great that toxic people get problems due to how toxic they are, I'm sure there are multiple others like me that literally can't play mm on trustfactor at this point due to others reporting for reasons other than being toxic.
2018-12-07 01:50
lmfao this is hilarious, enjoy playing more toxics like yourself. Cry is free
2018-12-07 01:52
3/8 I gave you a three as I actually spent time on this bait.
2018-12-07 01:53
the only bait is your trying to complain about trust factor. Enjoy hell hahahahaha
2018-12-07 01:57
Are you just unable to read? Are you genuinely so ignorant that you think there is nobody good in this game who gets reported a lot for reasons other than being toxic? Like even if it wasn't me (I literally only give callouts) you genuinely don't think there's a single person that's legit that gets called a cheater hence getting reports? And as a side note - how do you not have a low trustfactor yourself if you're this toxic?
2018-12-07 02:00
Italy steven513 
I agree I'm having the same experience with trustfactor, I feel like he's just baiting at this point, MM (at least trustfactor is a terrible experience), is utter shit.
2018-12-07 02:25
feelsbadman Yeah I feel like I've been baited pretty hard, I'll take the L
2018-12-07 02:35
Brazil Eneas56 
No, we are 5 guys that just play two games a weekend since 2015, nt buddy but you're either baiting or 16 y/o.
2018-12-07 02:02
Im not the one stuck playing with fellow griefers cheaters throwers and toxics. Enjoy hell
2018-12-07 02:12
Czech Republic Pee_Tea 
2018-12-07 02:35
United States Mayor_Quimby 
Maybe cause you suck and no one reports you LUL nt sem
2018-12-07 02:13
kebab | 
Turkey ToxicTurk 
except vacnet is fucking dogshit and free to play will kill csgo, super ez to cheat now
2018-12-07 01:07
ok dude you don't even understand how vacnet works so please shut up. Assuming valve actually deployed vacnet for real the f2p should not be an issue
2018-12-07 01:08
kebab | 
Turkey ToxicTurk 
make account cheat get banned by OW make a new account rinse and repeat, vacnet is too shit to detect anything but free public cheats
2018-12-07 01:09
read up on trust factor buddy. If you keep getting banned on multiple accounts then all your other accounts are placed on low trust factor which means you'll be cheating against cheaters 24/7
2018-12-07 01:12
if ur a decent player then shitties in matchmaking report u for a simple one deag, good players will have shit trust as well. only the shitters who never get reported or perform well will have good games
2018-12-07 01:16
sorry dude its late and im too tired of explaining you how vacnet works just read up on it
2018-12-07 01:18
nice english fakeflagger detected
2018-12-07 01:19
+1. Thats actually true. Trust factor is only for players who are quite shitty but friendly. Most of the ppl in matchmaking are reporting you if you get couple good headshots.
2018-12-07 01:24
2018-12-07 02:30
Dude it takes like 2 months of playing to get into Prime Status Pool. If anything this will reduce the hackers massively.
2018-12-07 02:40
u can buy prime accs but ok
2018-12-07 02:41
Cheaters won't pay lol
2018-12-07 02:42
they already do you fucktard, why wouldn't they now? also u can just walkbot in DM and get prime in a couple of nights
2018-12-07 02:42
Because like I said now there is Non Prime Cheater Pool under Level 20. Why would stupid cheater waste 15 bucks for nothing? Or he can play everyday on Free Account for 7 hours and get Prime in under 3 months but why would he then throw it away and cheat? If anything he will sell this account to some noob silver but he will never cheat on a Prime Account.
2018-12-07 02:45
u do realize that u can closet cheat right? or you can just afk walkbot in DM with other cheaters and get prime in a couple of days
2018-12-07 02:46
Not possible with proper afk detect. Valve already knows about those skin farm servers so they will just ban you immediately if using script and Non official servers will get no xp!
2018-12-07 02:48
are u retarded? walkbot lets you walk around and instantly kill people with aimbot even if you're not at your pc. lithuania brain OMEGALUL vacnet is also garbage, it can only ban free public cheats
2018-12-07 02:49
So what? On official server it will be instant ban. And why you insult my country?
2018-12-07 02:50
you are either baiting or have 60 iq LMFAO
2018-12-07 02:51
Do you know how votekick works? Do you know if you get 3 votekicks in one day you get cooldown ban?
2018-12-07 02:53
you don't get a cooldown from being kicked in DM fucktard. your bait is actually 0/8 and as I said in #74 just walkbot with other cheaters so u dont get kicked.
2018-12-07 02:55
You never actually played this game have you?
2018-12-07 02:56
u cant get a cooldown from being kicked in dm 3 times in a day LMFAO only comp or wingman
2018-12-07 02:56
Yes it's called CASUAL COOLDOWN!
2018-12-07 02:57
there is no such thing. you are either baiting or have never played this game before
2018-12-07 02:57
There are 4 casual servers. You will get cooldown on SO server if you get kicked too often. Plus tell me how you are gonna earn 100000k xp for level 21 from a bot in one day without being kicked from the server???
2018-12-07 02:59
There are more than 4 casual servers you only get cooldowns from MM or wingman, not DM or casual fucktard "100000k xp from a bot in 1 day" I said a couple of days "how can you do this without being kicked from the server???" literally just do it with other cheaters, the walkbot can be set to pick a certain side so there arent enough people to vote yes to kick you. overall 0/8 retarded lithuanian have a shitty day tyvm <333
2018-12-07 03:02
XP multiplier is reduced to 0.175xp after first 5000xp for 1 week! Tell me how you gonna get 100k xp in less then 3 months you peanut.
2018-12-07 03:04
CTRL+F Walkbot /close lithuanian IQ LULULULLULULULLULU
2018-12-07 03:06
Okay wait so even if you don't get Vacced in the first week how are you gonna earn over 100000k do with 0.175 as multiplier even running this piece of shit 24/7?????????
2018-12-07 03:10
2018-12-07 03:11
0/0 low effort
2018-12-07 03:12
lithuanian brain.. 4Head
2018-12-07 03:13
make account grind to level 21 or pay for prime (game price) cheat get banned by ow make a new account trust factor is only affected if the claims are valid or indisputable
2018-12-07 02:52
make account walkbot on DM and get prime in a couple of days closet cheat and dont get banned because people overwatching are retarded OR buy prime for $15 ez pz
2018-12-07 02:54
it is easy but expensive and not only that but legit cheating isn't only something counter-strike has to deal with vacnet and ow has done a damn good job of getting rid of blatants which was the biggest problem for us and now everyone is complaining about the hard-to-detect cheaters yet this is a problem in all competitive games
2018-12-07 09:46
It takes over 2 months of playing for 7 hours a day plus just to reach level 21. If anything they will sell this Prime Account for $ instead of cheating.
2018-12-07 02:55
except you end up playing with other cheaters, griefers, ad toxic noobs. Enjoy pissing in a pool full of piss LMFAO
2018-12-07 01:30
North America alej250 
duck my sick
2018-12-07 01:08
Japan @0x0 
except vacnet is shit and isnt doing anything
2018-12-07 01:08
ok dude you don't even understand how vacnet works so please shut up.
2018-12-07 01:09
Japan @0x0 
i understand more about this than you ever will
2018-12-07 01:09
then you should also understand that f2p is not an issue related to cheating
2018-12-07 01:10
you should understand that f2p means bans are useless and not just cheating bans
2018-12-07 01:10
so you dont actually know what you're talking about read up on Trust factor
2018-12-07 01:11
no you dont because trust factor only applies to mm
2018-12-07 01:39
and its entirely impossible for them to change that? nice red circle logic
2018-12-07 02:11
how the fuck do you apply trust factor to community servers retard
2018-12-07 02:13
poizon | 
Bulgaria Riooo 
Rip faceit too
2018-12-07 02:40
Brazil BoaPaNois 
duck my sick
2018-12-07 01:11
Hi Elon..Tesla is shit..Mercedes AMG for life axaxaxaxaxa
2018-12-07 01:24
yes i know, tesla is a scam
2018-12-07 02:13
+1 axaxaxaxa
2018-12-07 02:38
Lithuania arres 
key word in your topic is "probably". Maybe they did jack shit regarding cheating, left it as it is and game will suffer very much due to that.
2018-12-07 01:35
United States pSilent 
Free to play, Valve has zero way to counteract any type of paid cheats. I don't see this ending well, but I don't play the game anymore regardless so it's no skin off my back.
2018-12-07 01:41
If vacnet actually is what they say it is, it should, in time, get much better at detecting more sophisticated cheats. I doubt it will ever be perfect, but I don't see how it could possibly get worse than what they had in place. I'm genuinely curious as to what type of outcome you think will come about considering you "don't see this ending well".
2018-12-07 02:19
United States pSilent 
My "don't see this ending well" is a lot of people just quitting if cheating becomes rampant enough, like in Wingman. A lot of what makes CSGO easy to code hacks for is how shit the code is, and they have to do a massive revamp to close all the gaps they have that allow any decent coder to get by without getting caught. Any paid cheat is going to be miles ahead of any anti-cheat as long as it is regularly updated, unless VACNET is some god mode anti-cheat that far surpasses the anti-cheat of any other game on the market by a significant order of magnitude.
2018-12-07 16:16
Well, the idea behind vacnet is that it's a neural network. In traditional anti-cheat (same applies to anti-virus) the security system is always going to be playing catch-up with what's thrown out there. The supposed difference between this and vacnet is that it's supposed to use a number of parameters to determine if a player is playing legit or not. This is where I'm getting my info from: . I can't say for sure that they're actually doing this or not, but this is a completely different approach to detecting cheats in that they're not focused on the exploits, but rather through observing player behavior to an extent. Of course, if this isn't effective, well, then you're 100% right in that I think cheats/cheaters will run rampant. tl;dr vacnet is actually 'supposed to be' that god mode anti-cheat you're alluding to
2018-12-07 17:33
Give it some time guys. People complained after tf2 went f2p but it helped the game survive and got lots of big updates since maybe now valve will finally address stuff like 128tick ect
2018-12-07 01:41
tf2 is as casual as it gets
2018-12-07 01:59
New Zealand Eauor 
how is that relevant?
2018-12-07 02:37
you cant make infinite smurf accounts in tf2 because there is no actual comp mode
2018-12-07 02:41
Romania Apophis22 
Ok. Maybe the amount of cheaters won't increase, maybe. But I can't wait to see the smurfs dominating the silver ranks.
2018-12-07 01:44
United States pSilent 
I forgot about smurfs too. I wonder what they are planning to do.
2018-12-07 16:21
imagine thinking valve gives a shit about vacnet omegalul
2018-12-07 01:58
inb4 95% of silvers are actually silver and most of them are just smurf accounts thus killing the game for new player influx
2018-12-07 02:00
Its not f2p that worries me, its the fact that you can buy prime now
2018-12-07 02:23
Finland em8 
So you want prime to be free or what=??
2018-12-07 02:38
No, I want it to be earned strictly by grinding to level 21
2018-12-07 15:40
New Zealand Eauor 
Why? Prime was super easy to get, you just had to play for a couple hours to level up your account and shit, no more than normal will cheaters spend $15 on prime to cheat against prime players lmao.
2018-12-07 02:38
Ukraine gungrave 
u mean month+ for 21 lvl? and they spend 10$ on new accs like after every ban. so why they cant spend 15$? especially with free prime now
2018-12-07 02:45
So U mean F2P is a fucking Vac Test lol
2018-12-07 02:35
United States Idoitforluls 
Haha u mom are suck my weiner haha
2018-12-07 02:36
United States JustBitsy 
I am not worried about f2p im not even upset about BR mode. I know I wont be happy to play it so i wont. I just feel like they ignored what everyone actually wanted for this disappointment.
2018-12-07 03:16
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