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Unhappy Astralis players
Ukraine YourUsernameIsAlreadyTaken 
Just imagine you have earned almost 6 millions dollars and now have to pay the half of it to state owners in taxes. That is how socialism works.
2018-12-09 21:07
#1
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Denmark dR_JaCkPoT 
Thanks Astralis for paying for my education ! :')
2018-12-09 21:08
Indeed. Nice for you.
2018-12-09 21:09
#4
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Spain elskio 
LMAO
2018-12-09 21:10
#6
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United States vaccineCS 
and my healthcare!
2018-12-09 21:10
#57
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United States vaccineCS 
talking about denmark not usa
2018-12-09 21:50
#59
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United States vaccineCS 
YOUR****
2018-12-09 21:50
#67
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Denmark U w0t m8? 
+1
2018-12-10 03:19
#78
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Faroe Islands Trashdevice 
And my Socialhelp so i dont have to Work!
2018-12-10 07:36
#3
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Europe precision6266 
is it not 1mil/the whole team? or is it 1 mil/player?
2018-12-09 21:10
#5
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Romania LoganS1 
whole team
2018-12-09 21:10
#8
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Ukraine richUkrainian 
1m for whole team LUL
2018-12-09 21:11
#10
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Europe precision6266 
then what 6 millions is he talking about?
2018-12-09 21:12
all the prize money they won since astralis was made
2018-12-09 21:14
Exactly.
2018-12-09 21:18
1 mil for the team for grand slam and overall near 6 mlns
2018-12-09 21:23
No
2018-12-11 12:36
#7
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Hungary Shaperz 
Imagine not giving a fuck about paying taxes when you are far richer than the average person in Denmark and literally all you do is play videogames
2018-12-09 21:11
#73
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Sweden Dino1 
6.000.000/5 = 1.200.000 =7.876.985 danish krona. That's alot of money but it's not really "rich" in nordic countries. With that you can buy a house, car and maybe a nice TV
2018-12-10 03:34
#88
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United States ascendaNt_88 
salary and sponsors
2018-12-10 09:42
#89
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Germany Thatguy12345 
this ^
2018-12-10 09:45
#92
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Sweden Dino1 
Yeah i know, they probably make much more on those alone, just saying prizemoney only is not super much in a nordic country
2018-12-10 15:37
Bruh 1 200 000 is a lot. If you can buy a house, car and emilia hult with it, youre rich.
2018-12-10 19:00
#110
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Sweden Dino1 
Not really. Also a CS:GO carrier isn't that long
2018-12-10 19:11
+ salaries + sponsors +ig fame. + cs inventories
2018-12-10 19:12
#112
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Sweden Dino1 
"cs inventories" LUL We were only talking about the 1.200.000 prizemoney though, which is not super duper much in a nordic country.
2018-12-10 19:52
#114
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World zebra_man3 
dude most of these players make 30k a month + prize money that is an insane amount of money
2018-12-10 20:35
#122
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Sweden Dino1 
I know it's insane money with sponsors+salary+stream or w/e But i was only talking about prizemoney
2018-12-10 20:56
but they have salary it many more then 1200000
2018-12-11 12:34
doesn't really matter, when they are young and still have their lives ahead of them. not to mention many people much older than them change careers as well
2018-12-11 00:11
#91
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Denmark Bal0 
Thats an expensive house
2018-12-10 10:02
#153
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Sweden Dino1 
So you're saying 3-5 mil danish kronor is an "expensive house" in Denmark?
2018-12-11 17:44
#158
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Denmark Bal0 
The avrage house in Denmark is a little bit under 2 mil dansih cash
2018-12-13 09:22
You have to understand that by far most home "owners" don't own their house, their bank does.
2018-12-11 12:27
What the fuck bro u braindead?
2018-12-11 12:37
#154
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Sweden Dino1 
Nope, are you? If you lived in Sweden/norway/Finland/Denmark 3-5 mil is the average price of a house here.
2018-12-11 17:45
sure.
2018-12-11 17:50
#156
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Sweden Dino1 
What sure lmao? Look up some statistics, i literally pressed like 2 buttons and found out the average price of a flat in Copenhagen per m² is around € 4,279 Now imagine a normal house is around 150 -200m² which is around € 641.850 - 855.800 (and that's not even counting the monthly pay of 1-2k €) € 641.850 - 855.800 = 4 790 906,90 - 6 387 924,32DDK 6.000.000/5 = 1.200.000 =7.876.985 DDK I can't belive i need to do mathemtics on HLTV omegalul
2018-12-11 17:59
#157
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Sweden Dino1 
Oh yeah and let's not even discuss the high tax pay of like 50-55%
2018-12-11 17:59
even it is not as expensive as that in luxembourg, what are you on?
2018-12-11 12:48
Lol, half of them taxes ? Are you braindead or
2018-12-09 21:11
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Ukraine kek1 
thats true actually 40-50% is tax
2018-12-09 21:12
proof
2018-12-09 21:13
42.6 is the average tax precent in Denmark...
2018-12-09 21:14
thats for average people with average salary doesent it go up for people that earn more?
2018-12-09 21:15
We have top tax. When you earn over a certain amount you have to pay 15 percent of what ever you make over that in tax.
2018-12-09 21:16
If you do some proper calculations you will realize that top tax is easily made up for in tax deductions, effectively making the top taxers paying a smaller percentage than bottom taxers. True story dude, media will never tell you. They like to make people believe the opposite.
2018-12-11 12:29
I think the bar for top tax is 500.000 Danish kroner(about 67.000 euro). From the first 500.000 you pay tax like everyone else. The money you make above 500.000 is taxed by 15% on top of the normal tax....
2018-12-11 14:20
I am talking after all tax deduction, then the percentage numbers change drastically, ending in favor of those we think pay the highest income percentage. Income tax only tells a fraction of the story.
2018-12-11 16:10
#68
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Denmark U w0t m8? 
They pay A-SKAT so it's 55%
2018-12-10 03:22
Haha, nt
2018-12-10 18:47
they pay either 10% or 33% tax, because either winning counts as the same as in like lotto, or it goes under the sportsman tax in Denmark. Kek gets your facts together man, I'm disappointed.
2018-12-09 21:15
Danish president said they are sportsmen xd Now we know why xd
2018-12-11 12:39
If you work in Denmark and pay taxes could you please tell me exactly how much should Astralis pay ?
2018-12-09 21:15
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Germany Thatguy12345 
33% perfectly reasonable. even 50% is reasonable because we dont live in corrupt countries and the taxes we pay go into improving our quality of life, healthcare education and helping the people in our communities.
2018-12-10 09:47
#126
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France GAITS 
Finally someone smart
2018-12-10 23:12
#141
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Denmark Menterx 
+1
2018-12-11 12:33
#69
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Denmark U w0t m8? 
They are paying top tax. In Denmark that is 55% so it is very true
2018-12-10 03:23
#19
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United States Raptorial 
lol danish taxes
2018-12-09 21:16
Yeah free education and healthcare does feels good tho, not to mention we get payed while taking that education. Im sorry about 2ndquid tho haha
2018-12-09 21:19
#27
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United States Raptorial 
Nt 42,933 km2 Useless people take advantages of your benefits nt wasting tax money.
2018-12-09 21:22
Yeah ill be unhappy about people taking advantage of my system all the way to school or the hospital meanwhile it doesnt cost me a thing haha
2018-12-09 21:23
#29
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United States Raptorial 
50% taxes nt
2018-12-09 21:24
yeah after i got my free education you´re absolutely right, but at that point we make enough so it doesnt matter, tell me more about how your money situation is after you finish school Murica? :D
2018-12-09 21:28
#37
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United States Raptorial 
I'm fine my parents pay for the little amount left in my tuition after I got a 80% scholarship for my academics. The smart people get money for university The people who are dumb and will not benefit society have to pay makes sense.
2018-12-09 21:30
All i see is student loans the next decade meanwhile i got payed while taking my education
2018-12-09 21:38
#77
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United States Raptorial 
I just said I dont pay anything lol Danish logic
2018-12-10 07:34
Yeah but I’m not talking about you am I? I’m talking Americans in general.
2018-12-10 08:54
#93
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United States Raptorial 
Peasants
2018-12-10 16:23
#116
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World zebra_man3 
that is very true americans are peasants
2018-12-10 20:37
My american friend has been living in the US for 33 years and Denmark 7/8 years. I can tell you what system he prefers, but I don’t have to because you already know my friend.
2018-12-10 20:40
#127
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France GAITS 
I have the same story with a US guy who went to Norway and Germany for holidays, and 1 year later he decided to leave US definitely. Now he's enjoying the chilled European life without going in massive debts
2018-12-10 23:15
Yes you are.
2018-12-11 12:30
#35
Europe RKC 
And that how it works in all great countries.
2018-12-09 21:29
#39
NAF | 
United States Raptorial 
-1
2018-12-09 21:30
#47
Europe RKC 
US does not belong to them nowadays btw. It’s just a joke-country in many ways.
2018-12-09 21:38
#51
NAF | 
United States Raptorial 
I can't insult you by your country individually bc EU flag. NT Greece tho.
2018-12-09 21:39
#53
Europe RKC 
I'm not insulting anyone, I'm just telling the truth, that's all.
2018-12-09 21:44
#58
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United States Raptorial 
USA > Any European country.
2018-12-09 21:50
LOL no just no
2018-12-10 09:00
#94
NAF | 
United States Raptorial 
-1
2018-12-10 16:23
Have you ever been in Europe?
2018-12-10 19:00
#108
NAF | 
United States Raptorial 
yes
2018-12-10 19:06
lol, fucking inbred nationalist.
2018-12-11 12:32
#70
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Denmark U w0t m8? 
At least I'm not swimming in debt when I get my education, didn't have to work beside the study to get enough money to live because I'm getting paid over 1000$ a month while studying.
2018-12-10 03:25
#75
NAF | 
United States Raptorial 
I'm fine my parents pay for the little amount left in my tuition after I got a 80% scholarship for my academics. The smart people get money for university The people who are dumb and will not benefit society have to pay, it makes sense.
2018-12-10 04:52
#86
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Norway kakemann 
lol imagine having to ask parents for money xd
2018-12-10 09:11
#95
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United States Raptorial 
Imagine being tier 1
2018-12-10 16:24
#97
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Norway kakemann 
xd noice cumback
2018-12-10 18:41
#98
NAF | 
United States Raptorial 
USA > tier 1 europe norway
2018-12-10 18:42
#103
NAF | 
United States Raptorial 
Nordic site nt USA site now usfunds.com/slideshows/here-are-the-10-m..
2018-12-10 18:54
#113
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Norway kakemann 
Sorry dude, but you have to understand that the us sucks compared to any Nordic country
2018-12-10 20:33
#121
NAF | 
United States Raptorial 
-1
2018-12-10 20:54
#128
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France GAITS 
He's true actually, quality of life is much better in many EU countries than in many places of the US
2018-12-10 23:17
#130
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United States Raptorial 
It's only bad for dumb people who actually want to live in new york
2018-12-10 23:59
2018-12-10 18:47
What the actual fuck?! :D Dude.. Seriously. Did you just insult him, with the size of his country? Are you fuckin kidding me? :DDDDDDDDD Tell him he has a big nose or something, at least be creative when you start to indulge in personalities, when you are completely out of arguments, logic or operating braincells.
2018-12-10 19:05
#109
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United States Raptorial 
nt Austria defect
2018-12-10 19:07
Learn some history, jesus.
2018-12-10 23:08
#131
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United States Raptorial 
Ik the history, what am I gonna do Explain the entire history?? I'm not gonna waste my time
2018-12-11 00:00
Its far enough, if you don't say soooo stupid things like that. :D
2018-12-11 01:42
Wait did you just tried to use a country's size as an insult?
2018-12-09 21:28
Sums up muricans pretty much haha
2018-12-09 21:29
expected from usa
2018-12-09 21:30
#41
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United States Raptorial 
nt portugal 92,212 km2
2018-12-09 21:30
Thanks, I guess?
2018-12-09 21:32
they can just send it to overseas banks if they want to there are many countries that are tax free P.S and its totaly legal so
2018-12-09 21:17
Yeah i know. But EU wants to shut down it. And in couple years all this stuff is going to be illegal.
2018-12-09 21:21
#46
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Israel uRaguuu 
yeah they will totaly shut it down 100% without a doubt lol
2018-12-09 21:38
"Thats how socialism works" Stay in school kids..
2018-12-09 21:25
What is wrong with my statement ? Is not it how socialism works ? I personally live in a country where almost the same taxes. Untill 1991 in my country taxes was 100%.
2018-12-09 21:48
Everything is wrong with your statement! Why? Well to begin with.. Denmark ain't a socialist country! Look it up, learn the difference, and most importantly: Stay in school.
2018-12-10 00:45
"Denmark ain't a socialist country!" It looks like not me but you need to get back to school and learn English. Why are you so arrogant? I do not want to talk to you anymore.
2018-12-10 03:11
#71
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Denmark U w0t m8? 
How do you comment on his English with a sentence with that many grammar errors?
2018-12-10 03:29
#74
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Hungary Shaperz 
He clearly speaks better English than you do lmao
2018-12-10 04:40
#79
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Czech Republic _s0 
Ruski pls
2018-12-10 08:19
Lmfao u drunk?
2018-12-10 09:08
u speak enklisch kreat!!!
2018-12-10 20:50
I'm not gonna argue with you about the grammar thingy. Your sentence speaks for itself. Why i'm so arrogant? Because your so ignorant that you think it's perfectly fine, to assume things you don't have a fucking clue about..
2018-12-10 23:42
#31
Europe RKC 
This is how their home country build schools, infrastructure, welfare for their population etc. There is nothing wrong with it imo.
2018-12-09 21:26
Nice for them.
2018-12-09 21:49
+1
2018-12-10 05:21
#33
Denmark cyb1 
They probably got a ingraved goldbar because the value of it is tax-free.
2018-12-09 21:28
A smart move.
2018-12-09 21:39
#38
Denmark cyb1 
For danes only. If you want to know more about tax-rules from tax on winnings or prizes, you should check this. pwc.dk/da/publikationer/2017/pwc-esport-.. skat.dk/skat.aspx?oid=2234748
2018-12-09 21:30
Thank you for sharing the information.
2018-12-09 21:39
#60
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Denmark Fluxie_CB 
I actually wasnt aware of these rules for prize money earnings, and you posted your reply 1 minute earlier than i did. Since Astralis is an org though, and make money through merch sales and such, they are still eligible for the highest tax (their income outside of just prize money definitely exceeds the 500k dkk you can earn a year before they have to pay highest taxes), so i guess they still do pay a butt load of money in taxes. Astralis players are fucking rich omegalul
2018-12-09 21:50
#63
Denmark cyb1 
Rich AF We can only guess what their personal income is.. but I believe they got a good attorney who takes care of whatever needs to be deducted which is alot... =)
2018-12-09 22:03
#64
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Denmark Fluxie_CB 
I would personally guess each player is being paid $12k+ every month after taxes (most likely) due to how well they're doing, so merch sales, sticker sales and sponsors are giving a bonus. As long as Astralis are doing this well, the players will keep earning $12k+ per month, since their sponsors are earning so much money off of being representet by Astralis. Hope they keep delivering at this level, and that money doesnt become the main thing for them later down the line
2018-12-09 22:08
#85
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Denmark AwzuuM 
I'm 99% sure they earn more than 12k a month. Shroud said he earned around 30k before tax when he was in C9, and they weren't near as good as Astralis, so my guess is they each make around 50-60k right now before tax.
2018-12-10 09:10
C9 is a bigger brand than Astralis i believe
2018-12-10 20:54
#124
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Denmark AwzuuM 
Yea, but still. Astralis got sponsored 77 mil danish kroner like 6-12 months ago. I'm not doubting they make around 50k a month
2018-12-10 22:02
#72
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Denmark U w0t m8? 
Oh, I thought you just had to pay with the percentages you pay your salary with
2018-12-10 03:32
#42
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Denmark Fluxie_CB 
You're not quite on the money with this one buddy. Every time Astralis win a tournament, like ESL, they pay 57% (or 62%) of the earnings to taxes, because they earn enough to be paying the highest taxes. They won $250k from this tourney, of which they paid $142.5k in taxes. From the intel grand slam prize pool, they'll be paying $570k in taxes, which leaves a total of $537.5k to be paid out to the players. Each player will receive $87k, and coach Zonic will receive $53.7k. On top of this, the Astralis players get paid more than $12k every month in their salaries, because they're doing so well (merch sale, sticker sales, sponsors and the org paying the players) If you want to get the total statistics of how much of their prizepool money, they've paid in taxes, you'd have to check their winnings from every tournament and deduct 57%. TL;DR Astralis pay a fuck ton in taxes every month and from turney winnings, but they still earn more money every month than 98% of Danes and other europeans. I dont think they care
2018-12-09 21:31
Thank you so much for that information. Everything clear now.
2018-12-09 21:45
Lots of rapefugees with 8 kids that will never work another day in their lives that need full care from the state you mean
2018-12-09 21:31
Yeah but do not you think that the kids are going to fully assimilate in the Danish nation.
2018-12-09 21:51
earnings from tournaments are tax free in Denmark
2018-12-09 21:39
Great news for Astralis.
2018-12-09 21:40
yeah, but still even with 50% cut, they own shitload of money
2018-12-09 21:51
Good we aren’t socialist
2018-12-10 08:29
skat.dk/skat.aspx?oid=2234748 But im too lazy to translate this
2018-12-10 09:05
#87
Czech Republic Wer_ 
What else would they do with that much money?
2018-12-10 09:37
They have their 20k salaries a month, org prolly takes the prize sooo????
2018-12-10 16:28
Org is owned by the players and also they said that each player takes 18% of the money and zonic takes 10%
2018-12-11 00:01
So they get both salary and prize money, even better
2018-12-11 12:22
org only gets money by sponsors, merch and that stuff
2018-12-11 12:50
by your logic then,they have both their prize money and their 10-30k salaries a month,so???
2018-12-11 14:12
#104
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Austria donnie_ 
Another third worlder believing that all of the income is taxed at the same rate... xaxaxaxa
2018-12-10 18:58
Half? Are you retarded? It a whole different story when its prize money?
2018-12-10 20:36
lmao they can avoid the taxes if they want
2018-12-10 20:53
ban astralis now lol
2018-12-10 20:59
#133
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Denmark how_much_ 
The taxes are ridiculous I agree, but what is borderline more ridiculous are how desperate people are to add any salt to the astralis victories. Just accept that Astralis is the best CS team ever and bow before your overlords.
2018-12-11 00:07
#146
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Indonesia tsokai 
Nt fakeflagger, i know you're iReshuffle 2nd acc
2018-12-11 12:43
#147
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Denmark lulgod 
No. They only pay around 15% in taxes. Prize winnings is not the same as salary, so they don't pay 50%+ they pay 15-20 % google your facts.
2018-12-11 12:45
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