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Swag overrated
Skadoodle | 
Denmark PumBaX 
title
2018-12-14 20:57
#1
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Europe R2D2s 
no shit sherlock
2018-12-14 20:57
#20
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Czech Republic Peks123 
UNDERRATED
2018-12-14 21:21
+1
2018-12-14 22:38
+1 retards thinks that some fpl guy can compete at pro level lmao
2018-12-14 21:25
#79
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Europe Cirro 
+1111111111
2018-12-14 22:16
#2
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Denmark VeryDanishGuy 
+1
2018-12-14 20:57
hey i like that you are danish. and an astralis fan. here you go as well hltv.org/matches/2293285/dignitas-vs-ibu..
2018-12-14 21:27
#48
ableJ | 
Bangladesh DisableJ 
2014 lels
2018-12-14 21:35
title is swag overrated. as you can see bfeore he was banned he wasnt overrated since dignitas was a top 6 team back then their 3 man core is now known as astralis lol.
2018-12-14 21:37
#52
ableJ | 
Bangladesh DisableJ 
2018-12-14
2018-12-14 21:40
you cant rate a guy who is standing in. even if he does good or bad.
2018-12-14 21:41
omegaooof get rekt kiddo
2018-12-14 21:47
#62
DEVIL | 
Namibia BrownBoy 
+1
2018-12-14 21:52
people want him to be unbanned lul can't even win vs C9 with stand-in lul he wouldn't do any impact in a major lul
2018-12-14 20:58
#17
Davidp | 
Sweden meistr0 
Well, he would have been a beast if he didnt do the whole IBP thing. He would probably be in Liquid/C9/NRG Right now and be solid as fuck. But the whole ban ruined everything (duh, obviously).
2018-12-14 21:20
It's his own fault tho
2018-12-14 21:20
But it was too much.
2018-12-14 21:22
#26
Davidp | 
Sweden meistr0 
Well yes ofc. But i think it was group pressure. I mean, Skadoodle was supposed to be banned now as well, but according to Steel the guy that had all accs that bet on csgolounge didnt have enough skins, so he would give Skadoodle later, but Skadoodle said "no thanks", and yeah, here we are, Swag, Steel, AZK & DaZeD are valve banned & Skadoodle isnt :P EDIT: But i mean, Life ban because of 1 match? Thats fucked up tbh. In other eSports players get 1-2 years lol.
2018-12-14 21:24
this is not other esports LUL
2018-12-14 21:26
thats a bullshit thorin story by the way. ska never wanted any part of it. and wasnt in the teamspeak and left. that came from 3 diffeent sources and 2 of em hate each other.
2018-12-14 21:29
#46
Davidp | 
Sweden meistr0 
I did not hear that from Thorin (If you are talking about SKA "not getting paid")
2018-12-14 21:34
that ska getting cold feet story got popularizaed by thorin. whereas dazed steel and brax said ska didint want any part of it. i remember hiko talking about it as well.
2018-12-14 21:35
+1
2018-12-14 23:09
#4
GuardiaN | 
Slovakia Ajko 
JUST ONLINEHERO
2018-12-14 20:58
im just gonna copy paste this everywhere for all 10k ids. hltv.org/matches/2293285/dignitas-vs-ibu..
2018-12-14 21:19
1 good game from 2 years ago, wont change the fact that he is overrated...
2018-12-14 21:22
i can find more good games against top eu teams on lan from a few years ago. he has got a lot. against players who are still relevant today iand in the top 10.
2018-12-14 21:24
the guy was apsent for a long time in top notch cs. tbh if he hadn't be banned Swag > Simple device Niko
2018-12-14 20:59
Hahha never
2018-12-14 21:07
hahah always
2018-12-14 21:08
+1 #freebrax </3
2018-12-14 21:17
idk about s1mple and niko but hltv.org/matches/2293285/dignitas-vs-ibu.. we can actually gauge him against device LOL
2018-12-14 21:30
#65
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Lithuania dozzah 
pretty accurate but s1mple the CSGOD >>> swag > everyone else
2018-12-14 21:53
Steel is the best ibuypower player
2018-12-14 21:12
10k id. how the fuck would you know? i like steel. he was the worst on ibp.
2018-12-14 21:21
#9
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Onliner.
2018-12-14 21:13
hltv.org/matches/2293285/dignitas-vs-ibu.. another one for you. was on a t1 lan. im educating newfags.
2018-12-14 21:21
#43
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Ok??????? I seen Edward taco karrigan all drop 30 bombs before are they all gods?????
2018-12-14 21:31
lol? when did taco and karrigan 30 bombed on lan against a top 8 team? edward possible. please find me an example. (in regulation please, also as you can see this was in 19 rounds. it shouldnt be too hard to drop a 30 bomb in a 16-14 match.
2018-12-14 21:33
#55
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Get good newfag. U just got served. U just got owned. U just got shit on. /closed
2018-12-14 21:45
thats a big yikes.
2018-12-14 21:46
#59
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United States Trump2020KAG 
The proof is in the pudding hltv.org/matches/2322808/space-soldiers-.. So ezzzz
2018-12-14 21:49
why are you linking a match of my favorite player winning a series 2-0?
2018-12-14 21:51
#63
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Lmao xan got shit on by Elige monster
2018-12-14 21:52
why do you assume im a space soldiers fan when ltierally my profile is filled with na teams and players lol? also elige is overrated naf>elige
2018-12-14 21:53
#70
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Don’t bs me my Turkish friend.
2018-12-14 21:55
bs? naf>elige both with stats and accomplishments. he also is better with the eye test. wtf did elige do before naf apart from that major runs getting carried by s1pmple lol. he is an overrated one dimensional rifler that you can find on mdl. you cant compete with me on na knowledge bruv.
2018-12-14 21:57
#75
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Elige #13 hltv top 20 Naf ummmmm yea have to wait for 2018s list to see him on it.
2018-12-14 22:03
naf is statistically top 4 this year. will probably be in the top 8.
2018-12-14 22:04
#77
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United States Trump2020KAG 
I think so
2018-12-14 22:07
its s1mple device and niko he cant for sure pass. then electronic and astralis guys are there and its all up to hltv guys.
2018-12-14 22:10
#98
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Having eliges game againts Astralis would helped him out a lot.
2018-12-14 23:05
#69
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Lithuania dozzah 
he said against a top8 team burgerbrain
2018-12-14 21:54
#72
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Who tf are u???????????????????????????????????????????????
2018-12-14 21:56
2018-12-14 21:16
de_stroyed <3 IBP
2018-12-14 21:18
Im not a newfag he's always been overrated
2018-12-14 21:19
overated? no. overhyped? yes. not the same thing. he was still a fucking monster. but because he was 16 people were hyping him more than he needed to.
2018-12-14 21:20
swag was gonna be the best player in the world at 1 point but he was banned so he never got to show it
2018-12-14 21:19
#33
M | 
Sweden Unluko 
+4825888
2018-12-14 21:25
+1
2018-12-14 21:21
hey i like that guy that you are a fan of. this is one of his matches on lan. you know xyp9x. hltv.org/matches/2293285/dignitas-vs-ibu.. great match.
2018-12-14 21:22
hey I like that swag is banned and that was in 2014, LUL look at xyp9x now with his millions of dollars in his bank accounts and thousands in his wallet...... i arent think swag can do that xaxaxaxa; dumb turk
2018-12-14 21:23
easy report.
2018-12-14 21:26
ez mad refugee
2018-12-14 21:33
lol? im literally a turkish guy living in turkey.
2018-12-14 21:36
soon to be refugee, nt tho
2018-12-14 22:30
do you know geography cunt? why would i leave here lmao.
2018-12-14 22:31
i actually take a geography class in college, so nt retards
2018-12-14 22:43
community college probs.
2018-12-14 22:43
uwm nt th... do u even go to school? lul
2018-12-15 02:35
i have a phd. im 31 lol
2018-12-15 02:39
phd? nt
2018-12-15 08:26
#30
M | 
Sweden Unluko 
No
2018-12-14 21:24
#39
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United States n3h 
Maybe 3 years ago...
2018-12-14 21:29
#40
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France HeptusDesigns 
Very good pug player but pro scene is different
2018-12-14 21:29
#51
fnx | 
Brazil TopperMan 
tbh he never got a chance to play at a top level for enough time to show if he's good or just overrated. If anything, the few times he had the chance to play at big events show that he has some potential that will never be fully explored because of his ban with ibp.
2018-12-14 21:39
they got banned in january 2015. pro scene started in 2012. he showed enough. also; hltv.org/matches/2293285/dignitas-vs-ibu.. (just an eaxmple there are shit ton more like this against top teams on lan most of them who are still relevant today) for example i like the brazilians they are great one of the best of all time. but because they were missing the first 3 years i wouldnt count them as the best of all time.
2018-12-14 21:44
#100
fnx | 
Brazil TopperMan 
I think that swag could still be a solid player today if he was allowed to play with one structured team for a longer time though. What I meant by not showing enough is against current competition, in my mind that's why people call him overrated. He sure had more than a few great performances in his days with ibp and everyone knows that.
2018-12-14 23:22
no shit. always has been always will be. i blame reddit tbh
2018-12-14 21:45
hltv.org/matches/2293285/dignitas-vs-ibu.. old user. mind clouded by recency.
2018-12-14 21:50
no, i know swag is good like that. obviously he's a fucin good player. he's just not a good PRO player. he's not a good t1, or t2 player. even during his prime, he struggled competing vs t2 EU teams.
2018-12-14 21:53
he is not a model pro like astralis guys when it comes to comms and all but i think he was pretty good against top eu teams. on complexity he made quarters and semis in 2 majors. won an esea lan which is basically epl. their problem was they didnt have a salary and there werent many events in the year and they had no time to parctie against eu teams constantly.
2018-12-14 21:55
ye i remember that being a pretty big issue. orgs weren't willing to pay for shit back then, especially orgs like ibp. but in all fairness, he is a rather lackluster player and easily the most overrated player in cs:go all time. his career has proved this over and over. that's not to say he isn't good. just isn't nearly as skilled as people like to think. edit: high mechanical skill but the brain of a dog, or a cat, is how i view him
2018-12-14 22:03
i kinda disagree with all your points :D not counting complexity who paid like less than a $1000 a month nobody was salaried on na until 2015. (only c9 after and they were complexity) clg and liquid were first. and their salaries were also a joke. ibp never got to be evil geniuses so they were never salaried. but top eu teams were salaried. nip and fnatic had a good salary. titan as well. vp guys after getting to vp. so most of them were salaried like until the end of 2013. i dont think he is the most overrated player of all time. not many people overrated him like they have scream. thing is swag wasnt that great mechanically(Apart from d2) he was just an in game smart player who played a slow weird game. i think he was like top 2 or top 3 in either 2013 or 2014 in most clutches. but outside the game he was jsut a dumb kid. leaving complexity for ibo because they were better on na while col was better on international lans. that was stupid. cutting dazed after steel was also stupid because they became a team without an igl. and azk wasnt a good igl. they lost to the shittiest tam on a major in penta after being up like 12-3 or 13-2 on inferno for the legend status match. there werent many event back then but almost all events were t1. even the 20k 30k 50k events. because only the best teams went there. we didnt have dreamhack open like events then. he did fine when he was on lan. ibp thing was unlucky on the majors because 2 bo1s and you are out was a stupid format. anywayi can go on. but ye. i think talentwise he was top 20.
2018-12-14 22:54
i get u. the edit of how i view him is recency bias like u first said, cause thats not the way i remember him from when he had promise(but it is how i view him since his "return"). the way u describe him is correct, tbh. sad he never got a real chance to compete. NA definitely got shorted big time during the early stages, like they literally couldn't compete, cause the orgs wouldn't pay, and the players were obviously reluctant to pay for all the travel etc themselves. you jogged my memory but also you were respectful and that is rare on hltv. if swag were discovered much later, he could have been something like magisk ideally. he had promise no doubt.
2018-12-14 23:04
No one is going around hyping him anymore. He's seemlessly filling in on a top10 team. Not bad at all. Too bad he can never perform in his own squad at this level. Solid player. Could improve by playing in ESL Pro League and International LANs regularly. But yea, you're just trolling.
2018-12-14 21:52
#86
Aleksib | 
Finland Mitzu 
+9000
2018-12-14 22:39
#68
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Canada HawkyOneTaps 
The guy hasn't played pro in years and people expect him just to carry MIBR and play just as good as he did 4 years ago. This ain't your casual mm shit boys
2018-12-14 21:54
#88
smooya | 
United Kingdom Nokzide 
yea i see your point, but do you think if he never got banned he would've pushed harder and been at a top level by now? he was considered good for his age and that hyped is what lead to people classing him as over rated because he didn't get better through the years. But maybe that's because he was banned?
2018-12-14 22:42
#93
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United States xiquo 
ofc and it's sad af
2018-12-14 22:45
#92
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United States xiquo 
honestly it seems his aim wasn't even good today idk what it is.
2018-12-14 22:44
i dont rate him at all
2018-12-14 22:48
I disagree even not playing pro cs he turned himself into another player so basicly he is one of those guys like fer, stewie2k etc in the meaning of: he can adapt to whatever. imagine if a guy like swag was playing all those years, just a matter of him getting a good igl, and he would be top1-3 NA player every single year he is complete
2018-12-15 20:22
#111
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United States SweatyBawlz 
Think no one has thought swag can be an actual pro player for at least a year
2018-12-16 03:18
+1, If he wasn't banned and still played professionally, he would be insanely good
2018-12-16 03:21
#113
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United States SweatyBawlz 
It's hard to say what his career would be without the ban. I agree and disagree mostly because steel has been phenomenal in the pro scene and made a very good NA team with players that no one really wanted (Koosta & Subroza)
2018-12-16 03:24
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