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FaZe, what do they need?
GuardiaN | 
World Darge 
People is talking about IGL's, star players and even a support. But what do they need to be a contender for Top 1? Because if we say they need more firepower, then someone else was not doing his job besides karrigan. FaZe was supposed to be full of amazing fraggers but even Niko didn't deliver his best CS this year. Karrigan was brought to bring structure andl order to them, but didn't last long and it never showed to be a leader besides an IGL. NiKo now is trying to lead, like Shox on G2 in another failed project and both failed when they tried to do it on the past. An IGL for a team full of players who don't want to listen is a waste. A support? A cool dude like Taco or Styko to bring calm and do the nasty job the star players don't want to do. But where is the point to have that kind of player on a team that would probably play a loose style under Niko leadership, a support is meant to play a role on the team strats and not hit all his shots on a random rush. I would say they need a coach with tactical input, a psychologist to make their divas get their shit togheter, someone who remembers them they are pros and aren't playing from mom basement any longer. CS has changed and it doesn't matter how good individually you are, you need to evolve with the game or will just get behind.
2018-12-19 02:19
niko didn't deliver his best this year? i arent think that
2018-12-19 02:21
#23
GuardiaN | 
World Darge 
He did an amazing job at times, but Niko is fully capable to be the best player on the game and none of us is considering him for Top1 this year or even top 5 I would say.
2018-12-19 03:39
#31
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Japan Switchance 
I'm not sure about that. I think he's still a solid top 2 for the whole year. Or maybe top 3 because of dev1ce.
2018-12-19 03:50
#39
GuardiaN | 
World Darge 
I don't doubt than he's the most skilled player in the game among S1mple, but with FaZe placings (and he falling to pieces under pressure more than once) I doubt he could be over guys like Device, Naf or Gla1ve to name a few. Players who did great on teams who also had a good season, with a lot of impact on their teams.
2018-12-19 04:20
#72
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Japan Switchance 
Hmm but faze had stayed in top 5 for like 9 months, they got pretty good placing in the first major. Sure, liquid got a better "ending" but stats should never see only the ending. I think niko with faze got more achievements in the whole year than naf did with liquid.
2018-12-19 17:44
#33
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United States Jammin800k 
What? hes top 3 in a world with the most dominant team and player of all time at their peaks
2018-12-19 03:52
but he didn't lmao. FaZe fell off hard after losing the major.
2018-12-19 08:43
++ I think a hot psychologist will do the job
2018-12-19 02:22
no psychologist is hot
2018-12-19 06:06
Astralis old psychologist was hot
2018-12-19 09:26
#3
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Denmark oskarsports 
Tldr
2018-12-19 02:25
You should. It's a good post.
2018-12-19 04:29
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2018-12-19 06:10
#62
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Slovakia misk0 
He said he should, not that he must
2018-12-19 08:32
FaZe need to disband
2018-12-19 02:26
FaZe need someone who is capable of full-fulling multiple roles as well as the ability to carry their own weight as well has have some name value, so pretty much me no kap
2018-12-19 02:26
#7
allu | 
United Kingdom _V1BE_ 
kio?
2018-12-19 02:30
doubt kio leaves c9 anytime soon, think faze either have to go for a role player / igl or just get some mad fragger where it wouldn't even matter like s1mple where he is going to produce results regardless.
2018-12-19 02:32
#6
Pogba | 
Europe francesc0 
I think this year proved Faze two things. a) they heavily rely on rain - he underperformed pretty much whole year considering how deadly he was in 2017. Choked on the most important matches. b) they need a new strategist - doesn't matter if it is going to be a coach or igl. They just can't always play the same strats and believe with their skill they can beat anyone
2018-12-19 02:28
+1 Guardian was very underwhelming too i must say
2018-12-19 02:32
Guardian stepped down during the 2nd half of the year. He was fantastic on the Major or in IEM Sydney
2018-12-19 02:36
yeah, maybe its similar to navi situation, where he is losing motivation because of the team with standins all the time when it was for olof, and then playing knowing karrigan is going to be gone and having to play to a different caller as well as having the stress of expectations, i think he could bring form back with a new environment / change of one
2018-12-19 02:37
Might be a part of s1mple trade. Mark my words.
2018-12-19 02:39
GuardiaN said in an interview FaZe was his last team before he retires.
2018-12-19 03:49
#55
SPERMY | 
Canada lame^ 
yea knowing s1mple prefers to AWP if he does go to faze I think its more likely they remove Guardian and do +s1mple +someone else, Adren could be good
2018-12-19 06:35
#68
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
S1mple has said many times he prefers to rifle
2018-12-19 09:24
#18
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Australia Bryanh1904 
+1 Rain went from no3 player in the world to no50-100 player in the world, idk y people don't talk about it
2018-12-19 02:42
#26
GuardiaN | 
World Darge 
I guess we all would agree than Robban needs to leave, even more if they don't bring a new IGL.
2018-12-19 03:41
This. But they also need an IGL.
2018-12-19 02:34
+tarik his calls would work great with a team like faze, he would also fit an org like faze well cos you know, mr content
2018-12-19 02:35
Pretty sure they will use tarik as a standin, bootcamp for some weeks in January and February, then after a major see if it worked out and is continuing with him worth the deal.
2018-12-19 02:37
+tarik is good, but +chrisJ would be better.
2018-12-19 02:42
+1 but I doubt mouz will let him leave before the Minor
2018-12-19 02:46
#27
GuardiaN | 
World Darge 
ChrisJ gets a lot of help tho, he does great in Mouz but there is an structure supporting him there. With a good coach, an analyst and players willing to follow he may suit really well on FaZe.
2018-12-19 03:44
#45
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United States jgcoleman16 
ChrisJ is a huge question mark imo. There's the whole mouz org you have to wonder about (Will they let him leave?) , Him and NiKo used to be on the same team (Is there any possible beef between them?), plus Mouz seems to be improving lately. Would he even want to leave? I think ChrisJ could be a good fit gameplay wise but there are a lot more barriers to keep him from joining compared to other choices.
2018-12-19 04:36
Niko is toxic crybaby, get another star player
2018-12-19 02:38
Dude he sacrificed himself to make Mouz with denis and spidii a legit t1 team. He tilts a lot but it doesn't mean he is a crybaby.
2018-12-19 02:40
His ego is ruining the team. Him taking over the IGL'ing role was the demise of his individual skills and the teams ability to work together.
2018-12-19 02:44
To be fair, he took over in groups when the team was down 0-2 and brought it to 3-2. Does he have an ego? Probably yes, though he can back it up. What FaZe needs more than anything is consistency. With their loose style of playing, an individual player having a bad day and thus being easily tilted (not just NiKo) disrupts the functionality and the cohesion of the entire team, but when all of them have a good day, they DESTROY (yes, in capitals). Case in point, beating Astralis 2-0, losing 2-0 to heroic (cant remember the exact tournaments. Also, heroic isn't a bad team, but they shouldn't be able to beat a team like FaZe). In a structured team like Astralis, such variables don't cause a disturbance on the same scale. They matter, of course, but not nearly as much.
2018-12-19 03:40
+1
2018-12-19 04:05
#22
Friis | 
Canada uhJake 
+Tarikkkkkk
2018-12-19 02:52
#25
s1mple | 
Iceland caverat 
+naf
2018-12-19 03:41
#28
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United States m1santhr0pe3 
+smithzz
2018-12-19 03:48
just get another veteran star and let niko do his thing; they are commited to him and if he didn't believe in karrigan, he is not gonna believe in any other IGL anyway
2018-12-19 03:50
Karrigan < Golden, any opinion guys?
2018-12-19 03:51
#35
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United States jgcoleman16 
Haven't been involved CS too terribly long. Golden seems kinda overrated. Why do people see him this good?
2018-12-19 04:09
#36
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United States Mayor_Quimby 
Interviews from fnatic, he brings a lot of structure and strats jnto fnatic and helped them win wesg and iem katowice. The problem is that I’m pretty sure he’s glued to c9
2018-12-19 04:10
#40
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United States jgcoleman16 
We're not even gonna get into the mess that is C9 right now. But as far as FaZe goes, I don't think they would go for Golden, because of his history. FaZe seems to go for more big names and from the past few teams Golden has been on, (C9 recently) Golden hasn't really proven himself besides those two tournaments about a year ago.
2018-12-19 04:21
#50
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United States Mayor_Quimby 
Then they won’t go for any igl. The only best option they can get is Golden. But then they don’t have any stars/big names to go after unless s1mple gives up on NaVi
2018-12-19 06:01
#59
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United States jgcoleman16 
I mean...FaZe has enough money to buyout whoever they want at this point. The Stewie-Taco trade came out of nowhere, it seems. We could see anything happen at this point.
2018-12-19 08:19
#71
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United States Mayor_Quimby 
I like stew but he will have no chemistry with FaZe, tarik maybe but still unlikely
2018-12-19 11:28
+HUNDEN /close thread
2018-12-19 04:14
I've gotta say. If they're going to buy someone out, I'd like to see +gob b for the IGL and -GuardiaN +s1mple for Primary AWP. gob b would be able to get use out of both rain and GuardiaN, but s1mple's playstyle conflicts with GuardiaN's so it's best to get a way for him to be on FaZe but not conflict with other players.
2018-12-19 04:17
#43
GuardiaN | 
World Darge 
I really doubt that Niko could be under someone like Gob B for too long, he is the kind of guy who wants full commitment from his players. Structured and strat heavy CS doesn't seem a good fit for these FaZe players.
2018-12-19 04:28
Perhaps not, but at the same time gob b is an IGL who can get respect out of his peers and the players he works around for his insight into the game and overall mentality as an IGL. I could definitley see it working out.
2018-12-19 05:44
#51
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United States Mayor_Quimby 
Gob b igl?? Might as well have seized as igl, overrated toxic as hell igl
2018-12-19 06:02
Nah mate, people underappreciate gob b, one of the hardest working and most respectable IGLs out there, he has a team that should barely be Top 20 at their best moments and makes them Top 7ish at their bests. Works hard constantly and has a drive unlike nearly any other for the game. Would be an amazing pickup because he actually knows how to use his players to his advantage as well while not always being shitty at fragging himself.
2018-12-19 06:48
Theres no available good player right now, they should keep karrigan. Then when mibr disband -karrigan -rain +cold +fallen
2018-12-19 04:23
#42
ZywOo | 
Latvia TedMosbi 
they need real IGL cuz no teamplay and low brain tac
2018-12-19 04:25
They need s1mple or krimz
2018-12-19 04:38
and IGL +simple -Guardian
2018-12-19 04:41
#70
United States key_ 
Nty, Guardian is doing just fine. Main Aug player Karrigan isn't pulling his weight..they need an igl who can frag.
2018-12-19 09:34
I’d want shox to join and have g2 disband Kenny and JaCkz/lucky go to vitality for rpk and happy
2018-12-19 06:00
#54
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North America pureGOD 
they need to disband...
2018-12-19 06:20
Jesus, best thread about FaZe 2018 (+1000). I said the same two things all the time. 1. Get a freaking psychologist ASAP. They can't keep having melt-down/choking moments in important matches like they did this year. Also, the whining attitude from NiKo is unacceptable. It is your job to do what you do. Be professional. 2. Get a coach that can do more than just a useless cheerleader in the background. Or tell RobbaN to grow a pair and coach his players. Stop being such a pushover.
2018-12-19 06:40
#57
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Turkey CHAMPTZ 
The players said MSL was forcing them to create a structure and I think FaZe, a team built around superstars needs that too. +MSL?
2018-12-19 06:43
#60
seized | 
Russia duxhux 
They need to stop to choke.
2018-12-19 08:22
Well honestly psych will help look at Astralis it worked for them quite good. IGL I think they could bring Ex6 because he is hard working + he is diciplined also another alternative can be ChrisJ he is quite solid IGL about tactics and loosen guy he can adapt the style. Last alternative I believe can be I will have a lot of heat for this but TaZ or NEO both are experienced and they played a lot of the times agressive style IGL so it can fit FaZe they have Guardian and a NiKo their agressive styles both pays off majority of the time.
2018-12-19 08:30
#64
forsaken | 
Germany coKE^ 
what do you mean NiKo has top2 stats this year
2018-12-19 08:51
#65
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China randomnolife 
condition
2018-12-19 08:57
The most important thing is finding an IGL. I think Rain, Olof and Guardian are under massive pressure right now because they haven't performed at all the last half of the year. I just hope Niko isnt as crazy as Shox and wants to continue to IGL
2018-12-19 09:13
jesus
2018-12-19 09:15
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