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Krimz > Twistzz?
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Netherlands EpicLoOw 
No way Krimz is better than Twistz..
2019-01-09 20:02
krimz not even in top 20 foolish bois :)
2019-01-09 20:03
lmao so whos in top10 instead of him
2019-01-09 20:03
#7
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Brazil Fallenzera 
Fallen
2019-01-09 20:04
#15
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Europe pencilvester 
zera
2019-01-09 20:07
#25
gla1ve | 
Tunisia @BOLT 
Fallenzera
2019-01-09 20:13
coldzera s1mple device NAF Niko Magisk dupreeh electronic FalleN not sure who is last 1 but they are in TOP 10 for sure
2019-01-09 20:15
Gla1ve
2019-01-09 20:16
#43
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Denmark KFB4 
11
2019-01-09 20:23
#39
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Germany Constikdw 
Fallen xDD
2019-01-09 20:21
you really think fallen is in top 20 XD
2019-01-09 22:15
Are u biased as fuck or what,no way fallen is in top 20
2019-01-09 22:33
#104
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Israel _69 
FalleN OMEGALUL
2019-01-10 07:29
ethan
2019-01-09 20:41
ethan
2019-01-09 20:41
#59
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Canada top_zozzle 
rest in peace
2019-01-09 22:13
#6
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Ukraine beazztov 
Yes, he is
2019-01-09 20:03
Throughout the whole year? Yes he is Btw, the joke is that GuardiaN is higher, not krimz
2019-01-09 20:08
#23
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United Kingdom galaxzy 
u forget the first half of the year ?
2019-01-09 20:12
#26
sergej | 
Other awzaq 
hltv logic right there, its like the year only started months after the c9 major
2019-01-09 20:13
#48
2019-01-09 20:39
Nope, Im actually the one who hates on people overrating twistzz because of latter part of the year, my statement is just a fact
2019-01-09 20:38
#55
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United States josh2l 
later*
2019-01-09 22:08
#65
YEKINDAR | 
China lxxl2 
or latter
2019-01-09 22:20
or latter
2019-01-09 22:47
He used the correct word.
2019-01-10 13:32
#69
sergej | 
Other awzaq 
if you compare both players in big events this year is almost like ying and yang on the graph (krimz decays at the end of the year and twistzz goes up) but krimz has higher numbers overall, even if his map count is smaller
2019-01-09 22:27
Im talking about GuardiaN and twistzz, not krimz :D + krimz was the 2nd best player in the world until Marseille
2019-01-09 22:47
#85
sergej | 
Other awzaq 
sorry, but about guardian, this could be because of his the amount of maps he had this year on big events (60% more than krimz)
2019-01-10 00:05
Man, I was literally talking that its a joke that GuardiaN will be above Twistzz, not krimz :D
2019-01-10 00:13
#112
sergej | 
Other awzaq 
fuck me then, it seems I cant read anymore :(
2019-01-10 13:50
Its ok, I enjoyed it :D
2019-01-10 14:14
#3
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Ukraine beazztov 
Krimz > twistzz
2019-01-09 20:03
2019-01-10 00:18
#103
Xyp9x | 
Czech Republic JeSuS_ 
"all matches" Peanut brain spotted right above me
2019-01-10 07:18
#5
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Germany liddeb0b 
krimz would eat twistzz with a better team
2019-01-09 20:03
+1
2019-01-09 20:16
#58
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Brazil Karl_Tanner 
Eat his ass?
2019-01-09 22:13
#67
smooya | 
United Kingdom fal36 
Ofc Johnny 'krimz' Sins would eat his ass
2019-01-09 22:25
Interesting
2019-01-09 23:05
#87
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Europe Vallon2 
Twistzz shits on krimz any day.
2019-01-10 00:11
#89
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Germany liddeb0b 
in ya dreams
2019-01-10 00:13
No, then he would be too fat.
2019-01-10 13:32
lol
2019-01-10 13:41
#8
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Croatia mds818 
arguably, >guardian, cold
2019-01-09 20:04
krimz is number 11 ! Look at the stats Ez to know !
2019-01-09 20:04
#57
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Denmark JustYes 
both cold and krimz have 1.16 big event rating in 2018, krimz has 1 MVP and multiple EVP:s, he also won 3 events in 2018 (1 big event) cold has 0 MVPs and a few EVP:s, only 1 event in 2018 (small zotac event)
2019-01-09 22:12
+1 OMEGALUL Krimz super duper hyper master ultra plus max overrated
2019-01-09 20:05
#22
coldzera | 
Brazil tavin 
+1
2019-01-09 20:12
twistzz is one of the most overrated players in 2018 in term of fans rankings...twistzz being out of top10 was more than expected for anyone who was watching whole 2018 and not only last 5 months
2019-01-09 20:06
#60
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France FanchD 
+151651
2019-01-09 22:14
Yeah no
2019-01-09 22:28
just look at facts...twistzz is overrated
2019-01-09 22:29
What facts? He played 157 maps in big events against krimz 94. He had .03 less rating than him with more 63 more maps played. He was an elite player the whole year, at nearly every big event. Krimz showed up sometimes, barely averaged better. How can you rate that higher? I guess zywoo top1 then.
2019-01-09 22:46
krimz was literally one man army and the only reason why his team was relevant. twistzz isnt even the best from his team, has another 2 team mates in top20(1 higher than him) hltv.org/stats/players/compare/7528/KRIM.. hltv.org/stats/players/compare/7528/KRIM.. hltv.org/stats/players/compare/7528/KRIM.. vs top5 teams krimz: 1.10 with 1.12 kd twistzz: 1.07 with 1.10 kd so yes, krimz WAS better and btw i wasnt even comparing him with krimz directly in the first place. i only said that he is overrated which is pretty much fact bcs he was around 5th place in like 80% fans rankings which is ridiculous
2019-01-09 22:51
Where do u get the top5? Doesnt matter. It's still .03 higher. Playing 60% of the kid's maps. Play another 60% and he averages out. Twistzz>krimz, it's obvious beyond stats and that's why everybody with a brain is calling it.
2019-01-09 23:01
use filtr on the left side...just like you have years, you have top5/10 and maps there. and no, having more maps doesnt mean that player is better...hltv made right decision bcs twistzz didnt deserve higher rank
2019-01-09 23:03
+1
2019-01-10 00:08
+1
2019-01-10 00:16
#12
nitr0 | 
North America dnkkk 
krimz is not in the list i guess. 1.device 2.simple 3.niko 4.dupreeh 5.magisk 6.electronic 7.naf 8.coldzera 9.taco 10.fallen 11.guardian
2019-01-09 20:06
#16
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Netherlands EpicLoOw 
1. device? 7. naf? 9. taco? 10. fallen?
2019-01-09 20:08
taco - not in top20
2019-01-09 20:08
#18
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North America khansab2000 
LOL taco
2019-01-09 20:08
#20
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Europe rEdYy 
taco 9 ? taco isn't in top 20 LUL
2019-01-09 20:09
#24
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United Kingdom galaxzy 
8.coldzera 9.taco 10.fallen
2019-01-09 20:12
>74CO LMAO
2019-01-09 20:17
#35
nitr0 | 
North America dnkkk 
you never know what’s coming :D
2019-01-09 20:17
Stop eating those burgers , it damages your brain . If you really think fallen and taco are top 10 go watch fornite
2019-01-09 22:53
#116
nitr0 | 
North America dnkkk 
are you from the nation that their god is a fucking cat?
2019-01-11 17:25
#13
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
2019-01-09 20:07
#19
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
2019-01-09 20:09
#27
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United Kingdom galaxzy 
also hltv.org/stats/players/compare/10394/Twi.. and also, krimz 4 evps, guardian 4 and twistzz 3
2019-01-09 20:14
#28
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
i gove a +1 to you
2019-01-09 20:14
+1
2019-01-09 20:17
and also evps dont mean shit
2019-01-09 20:18
#42
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United Kingdom galaxzy 
hahahaah ok sure pal im sure you are what determines what 'means shit'
2019-01-09 20:22
what language are you trying to use?
2019-01-09 20:24
#47
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United Kingdom galaxzy 
Simplified Chinese
2019-01-09 20:26
#62
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Canada top_zozzle 
250
2019-01-09 22:14
#61
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Denmark JustYes 
Yes they do, but not as much as MVPs of course.
2019-01-09 22:14
when i wrote evps i meant both mvp and evp
2019-01-09 22:21
#68
smooya | 
United Kingdom fal36 
Mvps dont mean shit 4head
2019-01-09 22:26
whats your top11 bro?
2019-01-09 22:11
twistz played 70 more lan maps than krimz and against better teams more frequently. krimz beasted while going out in last palce while losing bo3s against renegades tyloo and gambit.
2019-01-09 20:43
only from tier 2-5 events where were fnatics in tier 1 events that year prnt.sc/m54u3q never invited not even for blasts
2019-01-10 00:34
#105
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
katowice eleague major dh marsielle iem chicago iem sydney
2019-01-10 13:30
#44
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Germany Constikdw 
This 8/8 +1
2019-01-09 20:23
Krimz is way better then twistzz
2019-01-09 20:07
70 map difference on lan last year. krimz played lower tier teams more often. twistz played against top 5 teams way more frequently.
2019-01-09 20:43
#64
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Europe p1peb0mb 
krimz has 5 mvp/evp from 6 playoffs. twist has same from 13-14 playoffs. this solves the issue.
2019-01-09 22:16
no it doesnt. evps are meaningless. that only means twistz was in a better team and played against better teams way frequently hence his slightly lower stats.
2019-01-09 23:02
#101
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Europe p1peb0mb 
evps are not meaningless. device was above fallen and kennyS last year becasue of his more evps and high rating.he didn't evp got an mvp while kennyS had 4 and fallen had same with s1mple in 2016,when he got placed 4th while being 7th highest rated becasue of his ranks. he also played few maps that year. in the case of twist,why he have only 5mvp/evp from 13+ semis. krimz go 5 from just 6 playoffs this year.its becasue twistzz was not even a top 20 player first half of the year. he got overrated because of recency bias and krimz got underrated since fnatic gone shit this year even while he was still a top 20 player in the second half.
2019-01-10 06:46
#72
smooya | 
United Kingdom fal36 
Both over 90 maps so more maps is irrelevant Krimz vs top 10 at big events 1.12 Twistzz vs top 10 at big events 1.1 Krimz vs top 5 at big events 1.09 Twistzz vs top 5 at big events 1.08
2019-01-09 22:31
70 maps difference is big. that means twistz made it more frequently deeper runs in tournaments hence playing against better teams. playing against better teams usually lowers your stats. for example on starladder which mouz won fnatic lost all 3 of their bo3s and went out at last place. they played against gambit renegades and tyloo. krimz had great stats but against worse teams compared to twistz who played 30+ maps against astralis last year. you also cant compare the top 10/top 5 stats because they are broken for some reason. check the top 5 again they only list matches when the team(fnatic) was also in the top 10 at the time of the match. so when fnati was out of the top 10 those matches are not included in those stats. for example if you check krimz lan stats against top 5 teams it lists liquid as the last team they palyed against. hltv.org/stats/players/matches/7528/KRIM.. but if you uncheck the top 5 and suddenly you see matches against astralis, mouz, navi, recorded but not shown on the list etc. hltv.org/stats/players/matches/7528/KRIM..
2019-01-09 23:00
krims didn't played most of tier 1 events like liquid prnt.sc/m54u3q
2019-01-10 00:36
That diesnt make a player better that just makes a team better
2019-01-10 01:16
Krimz and Guardian ar going to be on 11th/10th, not sure who on which, mark my words.
2019-01-09 20:11
#41
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Germany Constikdw 
Nah #11 Guardian #10 coldzera #9 krimz
2019-01-09 20:22
cold and gla1ve will take 9th and 8th place, order not sure.
2019-01-09 20:26
#54
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Germany Constikdw 
Why would cold be above krimz? They have the same big event rating, krimz has 1 MVP and 4 Evps (1 major) and has won more tournaments. Cold has 5 or 6 evps but no MVP and no tier 1 tournament won. And he played in a better team. So krimz should be above cold
2019-01-09 22:06
You'll see.
2019-01-10 00:28
#115
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Europe p1peb0mb 
cold was always been a top 10 player. thats why i put cold above krimz.
2019-01-10 14:19
#29
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Denmark Azyyy 
the year has 12 months kid
2019-01-09 20:15
krimz will be 11th cold or guard at 10th
2019-01-09 20:15
#38
s0m | 
Belarus glitchie 
seems like tarik not in top 20 if it's right... feelsbadman for mr.content
2019-01-09 20:20
#74
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United Kingdom StigOHara 
First time Major MVP not making it to the top 20, Imagine being such a shit player to rob a major mvp and not be good....
2019-01-09 22:33
lol only mvp at fluke major and then totally garbage not even in top30 imo.
2019-01-10 00:20
#96
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United States jay_320 
I mean when you consider talent like the NRG boys, Brollan, Sergei, etc that won't make the top 20 list you can make a pretty good argument he's not top 30. Statistically though he definitely is. This year anyway. He's not even going to play for a while so I doubt he'll be on the list next year even if he gets better/doesn't make a dumb decision to join a team that has no business signing English speaking players.
2019-01-10 00:26
#40
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Germany Constikdw 
Krimz was top2 in the beginning of the year, he deserves this. And he played in far worse squads than twistzz or any of the Astralis players. Legendary player, totally deserves this
2019-01-09 20:22
last year yes twistz was on fire
2019-01-10 00:14
lul not today mayb
2019-01-10 00:22
ye its weird to me too, Twistzz was definitely better then Krimz or Guardian maybe even Glave. He had even 0.2 difference between kills per round and deaths in 3 months, thats something only device and S1mple can do..
2019-01-10 00:23
#107
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Pakistan MeMeMeisteR2 
the thing is , u are only taking his current form into account and not his form throughout the year. just because he was insane in the middle 6 months of the year people tend to forget that he wasnt in his best shape at the beginning and the end of year. in krimz's case it was the opposite thats why krimz is underrated
2019-01-10 13:32
krimz>>>>twistzz
2019-01-10 06:50
#109
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United States FAZELUL 
1. Dev1ce 2. s1mple 3. Niko 4. Dupreeh 5. electronic 6. Baitzera 7. Magisk 8. Cerq 9. rain 10. gla1ve 11. Guardian
2019-01-10 13:40
krimz overrated
2019-01-10 13:42
1 s1mplee 2 device 3 NiKo 4 Dupreeh 5 mag1sk 6 electronic 7 NAF 8 Gla1ve 9 coldzera/ Guardian 10 GuardiaN/ coldzera 11 TabseN/ Krimz
2019-01-10 14:16
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