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Fallen out of top 20
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Brazil Fallenzera 
my god this is a joke
2019-01-09 20:15
+1 played way better than guardian
2019-01-09 20:18
#24
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Denmark EU_LOVER69 
HAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHA
2019-01-09 20:24
w??????????????
2019-01-09 20:25
Guardian titles 2018 1st EPICENTER 2018 1st IEM Sydney 2018 1st ESL One Belo Horizonte 2018 Fallen titles 2018 ERROR 404 ERROR 404 ERROR 404
2019-01-11 02:08
coldzera titles in 2018: Zeus titles in 2018: idk some tier 1 events Coldzera rank in 2018: #9 Zeus: #404
2019-01-11 13:39
#64
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Kyrgyzstan coldnezz 
if u want compare someone from navi with cold, then take s1mple lol
2019-01-11 14:05
#82
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United States Jammin800k 
You clearly missed the point
2019-01-11 14:30
#88
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Denmark KFB4 
no
2019-01-11 14:38
#105
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United States Jammin800k 
Very much so #104
2019-01-11 15:05
#100
woxic | 
Ukraine labl3 
no. Cold is best/second best in mibr. Then compare him with smone best/sec best in Navi
2019-01-11 14:55
#104
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United States Jammin800k 
The point isnt about him being better than s1 or elec though or all of navi. It's the point that winning tournaments alone doesnt put you on this list as #54 implied. I.e just because guardian has more titles doesnt mean he deserved to be higher l on the list than cold because his individual performance didnt follow the same
2019-01-11 15:14
Thanks for clarifying to them I thought my point was obvious
2019-01-11 21:11
#111
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United States Jammin800k 
No problem, it was obvious to me lol
2019-01-11 21:17
#112
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Brazil baldok1 
ok then, the best player in navi is s1mple and the best player in liquid is twistszz, let's compare them... Dude, you need to compare roles, playing style and not best players in each team.
2019-01-11 21:20
#77
jasonR | 
Brazil fnxiwnl 
+1
2019-01-11 14:28
#34
shox | 
Turkey FrosTPunK 
0/8 GuardiaN_3_Big_Events_TwoFaced_Toledo_1_Tier3_Event_2k18 GuardiaN_1_MVP_TwoFaced_Toledo_0_2k18 OMEGALUL
2019-01-09 20:27
You REALLY think Fallen played better than Guardian in 2018? Are you absolutely sure of that? Like, I'll ask the question one more time with different wording so I know for sure that I'm getting a good response from you. You, LucasPaqueta, claim that your home team icon, Fallen, has out-performed Guardian over the course of the 2018 year? I am excited to hear a response.
2019-01-09 20:29
lol, guardian played absolutely normal this whole year, nothing special and im a guardian big fan ... fallen played better than him
2019-01-10 10:57
are you srsly THAT deluded...? /edit: nevermind, i just read your post #31 and you are...whatever
2019-01-10 10:59
I checked, Fallen has Guardian in most HLTV-based factors. However, the margins in which Fallen succeeds over Guardian are very small. Another interesting thing to consider, Guardian had the highest awp kpr throughout big events. He did his job, but Fallen technically has it over him with a very slim lead.
2019-01-10 22:11
So are u just admitting that Fallen will be better ranked than GuardiaN, and u cant complain since u alrdy know all the reasons. lol Fallen will be 10 or 9 in this rank, mark my words. And cold 6 or 7.
2019-01-11 14:27
#83
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United States Jammin800k 
But they literally already said fallen didnt make it, how delusional can you be. Also cold 100% will not be higher than 8th. His most likely spot is 9th
2019-01-11 14:31
#84
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Brazil Fallenzera 
i hope u are joking, ofc fallen is out of top 10 dude, his rating on big events is 1.05
2019-01-11 14:33
This ranking is not made only by ratings on big events, lol. Its not called "big events ranking". IS A RANKING FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR, even online matches counts to it, lol. But yea, still guardian has some better stats overall. But anyone that say that Guardian played better and more impactful than Fallen this year, didnt watch the matches. Ofc guardian has better stats, cause he won more matches... but it was really because of his performance? Cause there's a lot of matches that Fallen carried this year, including against Astralis. I'll be ok if im wrong and he didnt make it. But i just cant believe that who make this ranking is just a robot that analyses only the numbers, lol.
2019-01-11 14:36
#87
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Brazil Fallenzera 
deluled, fallen is out the top 20, accept, stop it now i made the thread as a joke
2019-01-11 14:37
Well if FalleN is not in the t20...idk if I'll stick to my last statement. I mean I did give some respect to your last claim and then you seemed immaturely aggressive in your response to when I said FalleN did throw up arguably higher numbers. If FalleN doesn't make t20, then I'll be looking forward to what you have to say.
2019-01-12 20:19
#114
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Brazil Fallenzera 
Are u talking to me or with other dude?
2019-01-12 21:06
#39
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Brazil WdoFer 
I'm brazilian but no way, Guardian was better.
2019-01-09 20:38
#79
jasonR | 
Brazil fnxiwnl 
+1
2019-01-11 14:28
#57
YEKINDAR | 
Albania lxxl2 
xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa 0/8
2019-01-11 13:35
#58
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Spain Lorenzo_Lamas 
I arent think thatz
2019-01-11 13:36
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA GuardiaN >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FalleN 1 mvp vs 0 mvp 1.12 rating vs 1.05(OMEGALUL) rating 3 titles won vs 0 titles won FalleN is not even top30 b
2019-01-11 14:06
#85
jasonR | 
Brazil fnxiwnl 
fallen only played well at the end of the year, guardian did the whole year. this guys are only fanboys that don't want to admit the truth
2019-01-11 14:35
Flag checks out
2019-01-11 14:44
LOL
2019-01-11 15:40
actually no. Guardian higher than coldzera is the real joke.
2019-01-09 20:18
#30
smooya | 
United Kingdom fal36 
But guardian is next
2019-01-09 20:25
thats what i expect.
2019-01-09 20:26
#3
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Bulgaria omaiguudness 
axaxaxa just BR People complaining
2019-01-09 20:19
#7
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Brazil kaiknux 
xaaxaxaxaxaxax EU ppl complaining coldzera is in top11
2019-01-09 20:20
Coldzera will be nr.9, and very deserved with his rating this year, but all other BR players were utter and complete trash, Thats the thing most br fans cant except
2019-01-11 14:07
#73
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Brazil kaiknux 
+1
2019-01-11 14:20
#74
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Brazil Fallenzera 
Tbh my thread was a "joke" mostly like every thread here on htlv, a user trying to get some attention. I think the problem is not the brazilians, but how you europeans are, just wait, when cold appear on the top 10, the threads from europeans saying he didn't deserve, he is a baiter, hltv is biased, and others bullshits.
2019-01-11 14:24
#22
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Brazil CaioOlive 
being delusional too, we often do that
2019-01-09 20:24
+1
2019-01-09 20:45
#4
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Brazil kaiknux 
deserved.
2019-01-09 20:19
how it can be a joke ? he was shit this year like all brazilians player except taco, what do you by "it's a joke"
2019-01-09 20:20
+1
2019-01-09 20:20
#13
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Brazil Fallenzera 
only taco lmao
2019-01-09 20:20
yes
2019-01-09 20:21
yes and ? I can do the same with zywoo but yes Twistzz was more better this year than coldzera and you need to understand this, you only defend cold cause you are brazilians and this is very sad
2019-01-09 20:24
#29
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Brazil Fallenzera 
Do the same with zywoo U know what, i'll do it, wait a second hltv.org/stats/players/compare/9216/cold..
2019-01-09 20:25
#40
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Brazil WdoFer 
Hahahahahha
2019-01-09 20:40
xd
2019-01-11 01:51
#50
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Brazil Capi___ 
Oloco LMAO
2019-01-11 01:56
Lmao
2019-01-11 02:10
Ok so just LAN when compare cold to Twistzz but use big events for ZywOo, axaxa delusional br with double standards, FalleN was trash and in no universe he deserves even top30 this year
2019-01-11 14:09
#97
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Brazil Fallenzera 
Im the deluded here You are just a loser, fortunely, HLTV staff take this serious, and they are not a silly kid from netherlands So yes, smart and serious people knows, COLD top 10 and twistzz not How am i deluded lmao , you are the one
2019-01-11 14:45
#98
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Brazil Fallenzera 
BTW if you want i link Cold vs Twistzz for u at Big Events hltv.org/stats/players/compare/9216/cold.. Cry is free And do not talk to me on hltv foruns please, ignore me, you are annoying and dumb
2019-01-11 14:47
#91
jasonR | 
Brazil fnxiwnl 
LMAO UHSHSHSHSUSHUHSUS
2019-01-11 14:39
ahahahah rekt
2019-01-11 14:57
#80
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United States Jammin800k 
I'm not Brazilian and anyone who is logical will see that individually cold > twistzz this year
2019-01-11 14:29
PUAHAHAHAHAH NT BRA71LIAN
2019-01-11 14:39
#93
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Brazil Fallenzera 
he is right... stop being dumb, accept cold on top 10 and not Twistzz
2019-01-11 14:40
#95
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United States Jammin800k 
Well its literally already confirmed so I'm not even going to ask you to argue it. Have fun being delusional
2019-01-11 14:42
#33
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Brazil kaiknux 
MIBR: wins against T3 teams HLTV: xaxaaxaxaxaxax they suck, TIER 999 mibr monkeys xaxaxa coldzera monkey brazil inferior xaxaxa MIBR: loses 70% T1 matches HLTV: xaxaxaxaaxaxax finally coldzera will be out of top20 xaxaxaxaxa brazilians suck, mibr would totally lose to vitality MIBR: 1 player in top20 HLTV: oh no coldzera in top20 mimimi bububibu :õ(
2019-01-09 20:27
n1 brazilian meme kkkkk
2019-01-11 14:03
#6
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Hungary Bonte 
1.05 big event rating btw xdd
2019-01-09 20:20
you really believed he will be in top 20 LUL
2019-01-09 20:20
#21
coldzera | 
Brazil tavin 
+1 coldzera carryed the Br scene
2019-01-09 20:23
#10
fer | 
Brazil GodSnow 
Fallen>>>>>>>>>>> Guardian
2019-01-09 20:20
hltv.org/stats/players/compare/2757/Guar.. Axaxaxaxa delusional brazidiot
2019-01-11 14:11
#89
jasonR | 
Brazil fnxiwnl 
fanboys
2019-01-11 14:38
#107
fer | 
Brazil GodSnow 
Fallen 2 majors Guardian ?? kkkkkk
2019-01-11 15:38
#10
fer | 
Brazil GodSnow 
Fallen>>>>>>>>>>> Guardian
2019-01-09 20:20
#16
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France Nicolito 
Being honest, he's most likely 23-25 this year.
2019-01-09 20:21
brasil fangirls lmao...
2019-01-09 20:21
#18
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United States ThisNephew 
why does he deserve top 20? the man couldn't lead a group of major winners to do anything significant in 2018
2019-01-09 20:21
#23
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Brazil assisz 
Fallen didn’t nothing this year, just accept
2019-01-09 20:23
#28
oskar | 
United States MidNCS 
Cause he was shit this year
2019-01-09 20:25
FalleN >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GuardiaN this year and ever
2019-01-09 20:25
wtf?
2019-01-09 20:33
#70
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France FanchD 
rofl
2019-01-11 14:15
#36
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Brazil davidzor 
Fallen only improved late 2018. Not enough to be in the top 20. Guardian had a huge Boston major (prolly MVP if they Faze had won), won trophies, sometimes bad numbers but if you take the big picture he's been good.
2019-01-09 20:29
#37
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United Kingdom Lcheste3 
Erm, okay? Flag certainly checks out.
2019-01-09 20:31
Stfu please. Accept the fact the MIBR as a whole was trash this year. Only cold will be on top 20. Delusional mibr fan.
2019-01-09 20:45
#45
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Brazil Fallenzera 
U are not being a 3rd world type of guy right now Fallen top 5
2019-01-10 11:09
You know he is not going to be in the top 5. Stop pretending.
2019-01-11 01:44
stfu gay
2019-01-11 13:59
#76
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United States Jammin800k 
Reported
2019-01-11 14:27
#78
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Brazil Fallenzera 
Reported for think "gay" is an insult
2019-01-11 14:28
#94
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United States Jammin800k 
K
2019-01-11 14:40
+1
2019-01-11 14:51
haHAA
2019-01-11 16:15
It was told in a tweet that alongside users like Cerq, nahtE, tarik, Stewie, and fer he was incredible close but was not able to close in on it.
2019-01-11 01:55
Relatively close* nahtE and flamie were the ones reallyyyy close
2019-01-11 14:56
Fair enough but you get the point.
2019-01-11 15:24
#51
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
you could say hes really FALLEN through the rankings hahhahaahhh
2019-01-11 02:00
#56
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Brazil Fallenzera 
lmao that was a good one
2019-01-11 13:34
Nice
2019-01-11 14:57
#55
YEKINDAR | 
Albania lxxl2 
mibr is so good xaxaxaxaxaxaxa FalleN is a top 20 player xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa
2019-01-11 02:14
just look at the numbers mate. no he did not make it to top 20, i was surprised too. it is just numbers mate. mibr top 4 playing like shit. not that bad.
2019-01-11 13:57
i think fallen will be #10 or #9, he played really good this year, shame that his teammates couldnt keep up.
2019-01-11 14:02
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 U make me die
2019-01-11 14:12
#72
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Brazil hugoooo 
twitter.com/Tgwri1s/status/1083460211279.. He was between 23th to 29th this year.
2019-01-11 14:19
#81
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Brazil morFeux 
4 astralis + 2 navi + niko + cold + naf. still 1 spot.
2019-01-11 14:29
#90
TACO | 
Denmark qqguys 
Personally, I favor Fallen over GuardiaN. but the stats speak for themselves. Guardians' Stats are way better than Fallen's in 2018. GuardiaN has a Rating on 1.12 against Fallen's Rating on 1.05 in 2018 at big events.
2019-01-11 14:38
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