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s1mple & dev1ce
hardstyle | 
North America ITSLITFAM 
Why do people think dev1ce is top 1 when clearly s1mple is better than him in all categories? I'm appalled to say the least.
2019-01-14 18:02
device had 11 mvps or so
2019-01-14 18:03
He had more mvps because of eco kills, doesn't make him better and I'm sure hltv knows this.
2019-01-14 18:09
Gla1ve and dupreeh in eco frags >>>> device in eco frags
2019-01-14 18:15
dupreeh is the real deal, that's what I meant. device is eco- and exit fragging a lot
2019-01-17 13:43
nei
2019-01-18 10:59
yeah cuz simple is absolute not a eco frager and mindless bot who plays only for highlights not for the sake of the team
2019-01-14 19:07
They got top 5 team for a reason bud
2019-01-14 19:08
ranking is a joke and i will prove you why 1. astralis 2. navi 3. liquid 4. mous 5. mibr 6. nip 7. faze 8. nrg 9. fnatic 10. north it seems that navi, liquid, mous and mibr are close to become the best team, because they are all in top 5....... BUT you have to look at points, they show the real difference. The difference between navi and ast isn't just a one position, its fakin 553 points, more than mous and mibr combined have. now look at the ranking with optical help to better understand the difference, and power that astralis has rn 1. astralis 1000 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2. navi 457 . . 3. liquid 399 . . . . . 4. mous 274 . 5. mibr 250 . 6. nip 233 7. faze 226 8. nrg 223 . . . 9. fnatic 173 . 10. north 149 1 "." equals 25points difference, look where is top 2,3,4,5 compared to ASTRALIS /thread
2019-01-15 23:50
Great comparison and measurement references. It's appalling to see how far ahead astralis is. This definitely grants Astralis an Era, even though I believe 1.s1mple 2.device Thanks!
2019-01-16 01:39
stop saying appalling moron
2019-01-17 08:28
stop saying moron douchebag
2019-01-17 08:32
stop saying douchebag faggot
2019-01-17 08:32
stop saying faggot retard
2019-01-17 08:34
stop saying retard cunt
2019-01-17 08:42
stop saying cunt queer
2019-01-17 08:43
stop saying queer hobo
2019-01-17 08:51
#94
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North America LuXDe1 
Stop saying hobo thot
2019-01-18 00:29
#121
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Denmark SenoriTaB 
stop saying hobo bitch
2019-01-18 10:23
stop saying obo hobo
2019-01-18 10:34
#76
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Denmark JEBO 
Nice one :D
2019-01-17 08:49
#93
apEX | 
United Kingdom UKChef 
Yea, but this is a list made for the best players of the year INDIVIDUALLY hence the team they've been a part of and respectively their achievements within them shouldn't matter as much here.
2019-01-18 00:28
+1, we kind of have a team ranking already so there's no need to make another one :D jkjk, we have a real team ranking already not "kind of".
2019-01-19 14:35
#38
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Austria sometime2 
Look at impact rating and then talk about eco frags
2019-01-16 12:28
lol calm your tits, why so mad boyo
2019-01-17 02:19
Idk man
2019-01-17 08:12
#60
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
Devve fangirl spotted
2019-01-17 08:23
Not even close, but i feel sad that such player as simple can earn top1 place
2019-01-17 09:36
#85
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
I just feel sad for you in general since you have zero cs knowledge and clueless bc you cant even back up BS you say.
2019-01-17 13:36
s1mple is definetly not an ecofragger
2019-01-18 11:11
And Modric won Ballon d'Orr despite being way worse than Messi(or like 10 other players) individually. Sometimes results matter more than skill. Not that I think Modric should have won but sometimes it happens.
2019-01-17 08:47
eco kills will not bring him mvp awards.. stop this nonesense
2019-01-20 09:40
no he had 42
2019-01-14 18:16
#106
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World Damon1174 
6 in 2018, 1 more than s1mple. Other than that and obvious team achievemtns (obviously he's getting more mvps when hes the star of Astralis) he doesn't have anything in terms of stats against s1mple. Still an amazing player and top2 tho.
2019-01-18 00:57
more mvps, won like 10x more value trophies, not toxic, not team destroyer, role model as a player
2019-01-14 18:03
#4
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Russia extrasoul 
Why he is a team destroyer? Yes, I really don't know.
2019-01-14 18:05
Comment #8 answers this.
2019-01-14 18:10
#23
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Russia extrasoul 
It does not. No, really, why he is a team destroyer? Did he left some team to trait it or what?
2019-01-14 18:20
I think it´s more about 2~3 years ago. A lot of pros that played with him complained that he was toxic. You can kinda see it even now on his streams. He is constantly complaining even against casuals in MM. Back then when he was more toxic it would kill the team's morale, kinda what made Guardian leave NaVi trash talking simple.
2019-01-18 10:16
#131
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Russia extrasoul 
Thanks
2019-01-18 11:05
#14
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Poland wiktorex 
rly change this flair to device bullshit
2019-01-14 18:14
#35
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Team destroyer? So he destroyed Navi by becoming the SECOND BEST team ever?
2019-01-16 01:48
2nd best team ever? lul fnatic might be 2nd, navi is around 5-10th place
2019-01-16 12:23
#42
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Russia NOD777 
Navi didn’t achieve anything
2019-01-16 13:35
#47
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
So ESL one cologne Starseries?
2019-01-17 00:06
#46
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
I meant at the moment idiot.
2019-01-17 00:06
You did say "ever" though. Dunno how else to interpret that tbf
2019-01-17 02:25
#56
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Well, tbh Navi are prob top 3 teams EVER anyway
2019-01-17 05:53
#57
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Not top 1 but definatly not top 10
2019-01-17 05:54
#89
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United States Shadow272 
lmao astralis,fnatic,lg/sk/mibr,nip, french teams >> navi
2019-01-17 13:49
#92
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
I agree with Astralia and Fnatic being better than them overall. But the rest NAH
2019-01-18 00:11
LG/SK has around 11 titles in two years(including two majors) NiP has 87-0 French teams have major victories and... idk, relevant wins?
2019-01-18 00:47
ESL one cologne isnt relevant. Look im not disagreeing with you or agreeing with you. But Navi is a top 5 Organisation. And omg NiP had a 87-0 Win streak WAHHHT
2019-01-18 00:53
#108
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United States Shadow272 
But the brs were still better
2019-01-18 02:12
No they weren't
2019-01-18 05:09
Several months in top 1, several months with over 300 points above the second, several months with 1000 points, back to back majors. Sure, NaVi never on top1 is better.
2019-01-18 10:21
I meant The organisation is better. Sk was only known 2016 thats all
2019-01-18 10:57
#139
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United States Shadow272 
Organization wise sure Cuz the br core changes orgs 3 times But core wise Br core way better than Navi core
2019-01-18 12:54
Oh Yea I agree with that. But like MIBR havent really shown much. But skill wise SK is better. But S1mple could make them fight.
2019-01-18 13:00
navi has never been a consistent #1 team lol. the only time they hit #1 on the ranking was when SK and NaVi went back and forth every tournament. NaVi was never the definite best team in the world, let alone one of the best 3 ever. SK of 2017 was better Astralis of 2018 is better Fnatic of 2015(?) was better EnVyUs of 2015 was better Liquid of 2018 is better FaZe of 2017 was better
2019-01-20 05:55
When did I say Navi was #1??? Thats my question. SK is better than navi YES but not at the moment.
2019-01-20 06:16
In thhe past he was toxoc but he isnt now
2019-01-18 01:29
he still is /closed
2019-01-18 12:57
He isnt toxic at all. Didnt you see when he won the mvp at startseries he shook hands with mousesport players.
2019-01-18 13:00
lul ns proof hahahaha i cant stop laughing xD
2019-01-18 13:19
What proof do you have??? Yes he was Toxic years ago but hes litteraly changed. YOu cant stand the fact that S1mple is better than Device in everyway
2019-01-18 22:51
Hes better in choking and eco fragging. Rest devve is KING
2019-01-18 22:59
Is that why everybody calls device, ecovice??? Thats litteraly all device does. Device just holds a angle. And lets his team do the work.
2019-01-18 23:00
same with baitzera etc. but simple is the real statpadder
2019-01-18 23:35
Still better than ECOVICE. If S1mple is a eco farmer why is he winning rounds. Ecovice doesnt win Astralis rounds like s1mple and Electronic does.
2019-01-19 03:19
Simple lul Devve is King of this game
2019-01-19 03:28
Thats a OMEGALUL. Device doesnt do anything to win a round. S1mple LITERALLY wins MATCHES for Navi
2019-01-19 06:08
#179
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Poland 984620 
Watch his streams fanboy, he's still toxic and nothing you say can change that.
2019-01-20 08:06
Okay first of all. Im not a fan of him. Second of all. Everyone can be toxic in a game. third of all. Flag checks out
2019-01-20 08:45
#185
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Poland 984620 
You said he's not, now you say everyone can be toxic? LUL nt fanboy
2019-01-20 09:17
Well, he aint toxic and when I mean by that Everyone gets that 1 game where they are toxic. You fucking idiot.
2019-01-20 11:30
#202
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Poland 984620 
Well if you actually watched his streams he doesn't just have "that 1 game", LUL nt fanboy
2019-01-20 13:10
Well, if you actually watched csgo professional scene he isnt as toxic as he was.
2019-01-21 00:34
#191
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Croatia worstplaya 
> not a fan > post 20+ messages to defend him
2019-01-20 09:45
Well, im not a delusional idiot that thinks device is the best am I?
2019-01-20 11:30
#205
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Croatia worstplaya 
well, i didn't said that. you are probably gay for simple tho
2019-01-20 16:51
'well, i didn't said that. you are probably gay for simple tho' Very good engrish. And no im not gay for s1mple XDDDDDDDDDD
2019-01-21 00:35
#175
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Brazil Vitor_IS 
ok, but... do u really think the "toxicity" of the player matters in how the player performs/get mvps ? why did u quote that ? lol
2019-01-20 06:32
yes he s toxic, cause he put edward flamie and zeus to bigg shiit and he just acts like a star that can win all and rest are bad for me electronic>pimple
2019-01-20 14:32
#204
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Brazil Vitor_IS 
? u didn't answer me but ok
2019-01-20 15:57
device understands the principles of csgo and the teamplay aspect of the game simple is just an incredible skilled pug hero, looks good in highlight videos but won´t get him to anywhere near to the top
2019-01-14 18:05
he is at the top. top 2 is the top
2019-01-14 18:06
#36
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Australia t0rrent 
Top1 is the top bud
2019-01-16 01:54
okay. top is not peak. first of all. second of all " won´t get him to anywhere near to the top". 2 is not near to the "top". okay. sure bud
2019-01-16 16:13
#48
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Australia t0rrent 
Top is the peak you silly and top 2 isn't near the top when astralis is top 1
2019-01-17 01:59
This
2019-01-14 18:07
#61
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
This. Is just another retarded post by delude devve fangirls
2019-01-17 08:25
s1mple understands if not more than dev1ce hence the fact that he's more skilled than dev1ce.
2019-01-14 18:11
yeah because being the best at the game helps you win every tournament as we can see xD
2019-01-14 18:15
Who have said that ? Big differnce to have 5 players in top 20 and 3 players in top 10 maybe even top 5 compared to what S1mple have coldzera as a player did not get that much worse in 2018 it was his team that got super bad mostly fallen and fer that was top 5 players before and with good teammates you will win , and now when SK/MIBR was doing really bad coldzera did not win anything or get any MVP's and his rating did get worse because its obvious that its harder to get good stats in a bad team but silver retards like you think its ''harder'' to get good stats in a good team probably
2019-01-14 18:20
+1
2019-01-18 19:42
It does,if he wasnt this good Na'Vi would almost never get close to winning a tournament
2019-01-14 18:23
+1 truth
2019-01-14 18:26
he is already at the top 0/8
2019-01-14 18:13
#39
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Austria sometime2 
Nt Germanistan
2019-01-16 13:12
I think s1mple will get number 1 tho
2019-01-14 18:12
Agreed, he deserves it more than ecov1ce, people don't understand that his mvps are just default because his team won.
2019-01-14 18:13
Exactly. Put some competent players on Navi and s1mple would have twice as many MVPs. It's not an individual skill based reward if it requires your team to win.
2019-01-17 02:11
Who is s1mple? s1mple 0 majors ,, who is he?
2019-01-14 18:17
A better player than dev1ce
2019-01-14 18:19
A player that together with electronic made Navi top 2. playing 2 vs 5 every game and still made navi top 2 While dev1ce is just baiter that get boosted by gla1ve and xyp9x and they also play 5 vs 5
2019-01-17 02:09
5v5? every team have at least 1 bot, so 5v4 in the best case
2019-01-17 08:51
0/8
2019-01-18 00:49
Weird, because people say S1mple "Made NaVi top 2" but a moment before he joined NaVi they were already top 2, then proceeded to make them go to absolute slump until they started playing for S1mple.
2019-01-18 10:27
man look at Na'Vi games last 9 month. Only S1mple and electronic carry their team. Edward and Zeus are dead (like players). They don't understand how to play like a one body. Flamie is very bad, but i hope he could play better this year. And frase "S1mple and electr carrying Na'Vi to top 2" is true. no way. #S1mple_Number_One
2019-01-18 23:12
electronic>>>>magisk dupreeh xypex g1aive hahahaah
2019-01-18 11:09
#19
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Russia zbogus 
the thing is, people like to disagree, obviously s1mple will get #1 but people want to beef about it
2019-01-14 18:16
+1
2019-01-14 18:19
#70
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
+1 and I surprisingly see Device fans say S1mple will be number 1. Those people I have respect for but for the people who say Device is number 1 No respect
2019-01-17 08:42
Agree. Simple is a better player than dev1ce, But is s1mple a better teamplayer? Do s1mple understand he's team mates? will s1mple be a better player on another team? dev1ce do really well!
2019-01-14 18:38
Yes he is a great team player and motivator. Carrying is a huge aspect of team work as well.
2019-01-14 18:38
Comparing a team with 5 players in top 20 and 3 players in even top 10 maybe even top 5.... to what S1mple have 3 players outside top 20 2 players under 1 rating that lose pretty much every aim-battle they have And it seems like you already know that S1mle is the much better player. 2016 - #4 with shit NA teammates and even worse teams aswell 2017 - #8 with a really bad Na'Vi What is that even for question ? Will S1mple be a better player on another team ? -Its device that should be asked that
2019-01-14 18:44
Great words sir, well said.
2019-01-14 19:10
#40
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Austria sometime2 
This is confirmed that s1mple is 1 when electronic is above naf and magisk
2019-01-16 13:13
#62
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
The most important question whether devve would be good in another team. S1mple played for different teams and showed up. Devve? He played for the same core since beginning of this game.
2019-01-17 08:27
Since MAGISK got #7 = NAF > MAGISK (LUL) = s1mple gets #1 = dev1ce #2-3
2019-01-14 20:33
#41
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Austria sometime2 
+1
2019-01-16 13:13
+2
2019-01-16 17:36
#69
f0rest | 
Mexico bfish8 
Electronic should be 6 Dupreeh 5 NAF 4 Stats don't lie
2019-01-17 08:41
+1
2019-01-18 00:51
if s1mple gets top1, then hltv only cares about ratings lol you cant put in rating a saved gun that won you a forcebuy, or a right rotation in the map, or a 3x3 that the player played right... device is so much valuable than s1mple, not even close another good example is n1k14o, he is one of the best in raw skill too, but clearly a dumb player next to a device, xyp, etc
2019-01-16 17:31
Not S1mple impact in rounds won 70% dev1ce only 20 % We are choosing here the best player, most skilled player and s1mple clearly is the best
2019-01-17 02:10
Where did you get those madeup stats from
2019-01-18 12:45
#64
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
If s1mple gets top1, hltv price that they are not biased and clearly value INDIVIDUAL PLAYER skills over TEAM’S achievements.
2019-01-17 08:29
#73
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
+1 This is Top 20 PLAYERS not Top 20 TEAMS we already have the top teams showing. It doesnt matter if your team won more or you got more MVP's And dont get me wrong. S1mples one of the only players I have seen that has placed 2nd in a tournament and got the MVP. That shows how good he is.
2019-01-17 08:46
yeah, but still, a guy that has more MVPs over the year, its a sign he played good many times on the hardest scenario possible, which are: major finals, biggest events of the years finals, many different crowds etc a guy like xantares, s1mple, coldzera etc, they can boost stats on groupstage and go out of the event in the round of 8 for example if we go straigh only about stats, I dont think this is so fair astralis being so insane this year made device play more super pressure finals than s1mple, and he delivers every fucking time if you really think this isnt important you dont understand cs. being a good teamplayer etc dont go to rating for example =) device plays the same, doesnt matter if its groupstage or a major final
2019-01-18 17:10
Yes, it is important. But you have to see this is the top 20 PLAYERS. Not Top 20 TEAMS I get your point that astralis was the better team I 100% agree with that. But dont you think S1mple and electronic has pressure??? if they don't play good, They wont be going past the group stages. Top 20 players is about stats not team-play if i was team-play why isnt the hole of astralis top 5??? because as I said if It was team-play They should 100% be top 5 As I said I 100% Team-play is important in csgo. But again This is top 20 players not top 20 teams.
2019-01-18 22:57
I agree, but you are missing my point. for example, s1mple disapeared on the major final... I say device had more impact cuz he had more chance to play big games, and he didnt disapear on those games, cuz he is a player that he can have huge impact even when hes not going ham, s1mple can do ham and destroy a whole team, but it the team counters him, he has no plan b, he only knows how to play overpeeking and being agressive, to me thats why device had more value than him this year. I think is dangerous to only put rating in the line, but I understand your point, I just think experienced people that watched cs for years and years will agree with me.
2019-01-19 14:31
I dont disagree with any of your points. You just cant see its a top 20 players not a team. and you have to agree if S1mple actually stopped peeking for no reason and that he wont win much. But as I said, this is top 20 players not teams. And i have been watching csgo for years.
2019-01-20 05:51
#49
BnTeT | 
Indonesia wkwk 
salty tweets by thorin incoming
2019-01-17 02:02
thing is AFAIK, thoorin admires both players :/
2019-01-17 08:17
#68
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Brazil cadik 
s2mple eco/exit fragger team baiter who cares only about stats device key fragger, carry in important games doesn't care about stats but still good at it if hltv put s2mple at 1st place it will be tragedy for all csgo community
2019-01-17 08:40
#75
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Device isnt a ECO FRAGGER? Is that why S1mple is always getting the 70% impact rounds??? and Device has 20% impact??? 20% isnt great mate.
2019-01-17 08:47
#80
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Brazil cadik 
>70% impact rounds is it rounds when he baits whole team to collect as much info as he can and do few shitty exit frags for ct ? or is it round when they rushing for t and he running last and collecting frags? such an impact waow s2mple became a meme at twitch already 'always last Jebaited' etc
2019-01-17 08:59
#84
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Okay, 20% impact rounds when he waits around corners doing fuck all. Not doing anything. (IDK even know how he made it top 20) Or when he stays alive at the end of the round and kills the enemy??? S1mple doesnt bait. If he did hes a great baiter winning rounds and as I said 70% impact rounds. NA'VI is a team played around s1mple.
2019-01-17 09:40
how clueless, you know exitfrags doesnt count as impact, right? ofc u want your starplayer to enter after others and trade off, its a nobrainer
2019-01-20 09:48
#81
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Turkey LeGentleman 
s1mple better than him but it doesn't work like that bro sorry
2019-01-17 09:01
#82
paz | 
Europe palmiyeler 
im not a big fan of dev1ce but he deserve the #1 place. this is a team based game, not a game which one superstar kill everyone. there is rules to pick #1 on hltv system and this rules saying device has more mvps and better statistics then s1mple. in the other hand, my personal idea is s1mple is overrated. yes, he is top 10 player of current cs but he is not a superstar like people talk. godly aim doesnt mean he is the best. first of all, he has too much confidence, thats a big problem. you can see the cost of this problem on save call rounds for navi, when s1mple decided to pick for kill last 10 secs on round and drops awp or something like that.
2019-01-17 09:10
#86
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
Again, for deluded users, hltv list is individual players list, not 2018 best teams. Get a clue, kid. Dev2ve has better stats than s1mple? You should check better, dev2ve fangirl. S1mple is far more superior and better player in every aspect than dev2ve.
2019-01-17 13:42
#91
paz | 
Europe palmiyeler 
first off all, please carefull on your language. its 'still' just a game and i belive we are members of a community. after that, yes hltv list is an individual players list but if you look the lists on close history, you will see the number one players always members of kinda best teams of that year. hltv is not just a statistic or media company, hltv is a important partner of valve to manipulate users according to games future plan. anyway, we will see who is right on Jan 20th. Cya m8
2019-01-17 19:13
#88
AdreN | 
Russia frezzee 
device is a good player, but Simple is definitely better 1 simple 2 devv 3 Electronic 4 niko
2019-01-17 13:46
#90
s1mple | 
Albania navi1 
+1
2019-01-17 13:52
Why people think that cristiano is better than messi ?
2019-01-18 00:30
I use this a lot too then these pc teens come and cry that this ain't football😂😂😂
2019-01-18 00:34
Nah bro it's same . cristiano was on real madrid had a better team so he had better stats and more trophies in the other hand messi can't carry barça alone . yes it's exactly the same astralis is a better team that's why dev1ce is performing better while s1mple stuck in navi can't do too mich alone
2019-01-18 00:54
as Im saying I agree, read lol
2019-01-18 10:07
Ah sorry didn't even read what you wrote i just saw you're a device fan anf i started replying
2019-01-18 10:09
Haha not the first time ;)
2019-01-18 11:35
I completely agree with being better skill wise the point where he can win is what he have achieved in 2018, from what I can tell at least
2019-01-18 00:33
I have no clue. S1mple is was by far the best player in 2k18
2019-01-18 00:35
1 S1mple 2 Device
2019-01-18 00:38
#111
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Finland xantaclaus 
S1mple clearly better. Device overrated
2019-01-18 05:14
Device has a lot of MVP because of he is slightly better than anyone in his team. If we rank players in terms of skill from 1 to 10 then in astralis everyone will be like 8-9 and device is 9.2. In navi simple is 10, elec is 9, flamie is 7,5, and zeus + edward like 5. Thats it
2019-01-18 10:18
s1mple will get to one why? because u can see clearly that they are not giveing places because of the throphis they are giveing because of the skill
2019-01-18 10:25
#125
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Finland jUPPE! 
Dev1ce is the clear #1.
2019-01-18 10:35
#127
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Europe snqa 
talking about MVP device, but forget that S1mple has 6 MVp and big advantage in statistics ..
2019-01-18 10:40
#140
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Ukraine Gunsor 
+1 1 mvp difference vs 0.1 rating dif. Quite obvious
2019-01-18 12:57
#132
s1mple | 
Slovakia Ajko 
just more wins .. but i hope s1mple will be top 1
2019-01-18 11:07
#136
Liazz | 
Poland n1xyyy 
fuck s1mple toxic
2019-01-18 11:36
s0mple 0 majors -1, Less mvps as well -1
2019-01-18 19:42
"clearly s1mple is better than him in all categories" even in Majors
2019-01-18 19:40
haah
2019-01-18 20:40
forget the trophies, device have 8 fucking mvps this year, rating 2.0 is nothing compared to be the best player in the best team in the world, if just playing well alone was enough, coldzera would have reach at least #7.
2019-01-19 03:24
#182
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Sweden Traitorz0r 
8 devve's MVPs are mostly cuz Astralis won the tournament. I must say that most of the time he stole MVPs from his teammates... So those "mvps" cost nothing. Try to check S1mple's MVPs, all were well-deserved and made by unhuman S1mple's performances.
2019-01-20 08:08
Skill-wise, I would give it to s1mple. He and NiKo are gifted at what they do. Dev1ce will get #1 because he is with Astralis. HLTV will give #1 for a play from #1 team, just coldzera last year.
2019-01-20 06:02
#176
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United States ferric 
Wrong. HLTV gave coldzera because he led NiKo in more than half the categories that exist in their stats that they calculate. S1mple is ahead of dev1ce in nearly every single statistic that exists, of which there are more than 15
2019-01-20 06:35
#181
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Sweden Traitorz0r 
coldzera was the best player of that year, so HLTV gave it to him, not because of SK's run dude... S1mple is the best player of 2018 by fact.
2019-01-20 08:07
device without a team no one, just look at the device's score when the team loses. S1mple doesn't need a team to kill everyone.
2019-01-20 06:52
#180
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Sweden Traitorz0r 
+1 this is individual rank, both are elite tier1 players and S1mple is miles ahead of him. Btw s1mple's team is 2nd so it is absolutely normal to give S1mple #1 spot. And S1mple deserved it the most.
2019-01-20 08:06
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2019-01-20 08:54
#186
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Slovakia crax1e 
IF HLTV NOT Retarded s1mple will be top1 what correct but I think is all about fucking trophies not about individual skills .... then Boostv1ce will be top1
2019-01-20 09:28
when the results will announced?
2019-01-20 09:48
I'm a fan of dev1ce but i can say that s1mple is number one because the ranking isn't based on team results and s1mple is carrying a team on his back but at the same time dev1ce isn't only getting eco frags he is contributing to astralis success with his play style that's hard to counter and getting eco frags and frags. Astralis are number 1 in anti-eco so at least dev1ce is doing a good job
2019-01-20 09:47
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Russia ne4sp 
agree with u, he less than s1mple)
2019-01-20 09:50
i don't really remember any solid clutch or hold by device, instead i remember a lot of whiffs. But for s1mple, everyone knows how many insane rounds he's played. If device is top1, i'm wondering how long can hltv make a highlight video about his play, without eco and exit frags
2019-01-20 09:57
It’s like cr7 and Messi discussion Roflkopter
2019-01-20 09:58
> Why do stupid people think dev1ce is top 1 Fixed. And now it's a rhetorical question. :D
2019-01-20 10:01
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