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device had 11 mvps or so
Gla1ve and dupreeh in eco frags >>>> device in eco frags
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yeah cuz simple is absolute not a eco frager and mindless bot who plays only for highlights not for the sake of the team
ranking is a joke and i will prove you why
1. astralis
2. navi
3. liquid
4. mous
5. mibr
6. nip
7. faze
8. nrg
9. fnatic
10. north
it seems that navi, liquid, mous and mibr are close to become the best team, because they are all in top 5....... BUT you have to look at points, they show the real difference. The difference between navi and ast isn't just a one position, its fakin 553 points, more than mous and mibr combined have.
now look at the ranking with optical help to better understand the difference, and power that astralis has rn
1. astralis 1000
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2. navi 457
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3. liquid 399
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4. mous 274
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5. mibr 250
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6. nip 233
7. faze 226
8. nrg 223
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9. fnatic 173
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10. north 149
1 "." equals 25points difference, look where is top 2,3,4,5 compared to ASTRALIS
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stop saying appalling moron
stop saying douchebag faggot
stop saying retard cunt
lol calm your tits, why so mad boyo
Idk man
Devve fangirl spotted
Not even close, but i feel sad that such player as simple can earn top1 place
I just feel sad for you in general since you have zero cs knowledge and clueless bc you cant even back up BS you say.
s1mple is definetly not an ecofragger
And Modric won Ballon d'Orr despite being way worse than Messi(or like 10 other players) individually. Sometimes results matter more than skill. Not that I think Modric should have won but sometimes it happens.
no he had 42
more mvps, won like 10x more value trophies, not toxic, not team destroyer, role model as a player
I think it´s more about 2~3 years ago. A lot of pros that played with him complained that he was toxic.
You can kinda see it even now on his streams. He is constantly complaining even against casuals in MM. Back then when he was more toxic it would kill the team's morale, kinda what made Guardian leave NaVi trash talking simple.
2nd best team ever? lul
fnatic might be 2nd, navi is around 5-10th place
LG/SK has around 11 titles in two years(including two majors)
NiP has 87-0
French teams have major victories and... idk, relevant wins?
navi has never been a consistent #1 team lol. the only time they hit #1 on the ranking was when SK and NaVi went back and forth every tournament. NaVi was never the definite best team in the world, let alone one of the best 3 ever.
SK of 2017 was better
Astralis of 2018 is better
Fnatic of 2015(?) was better
EnVyUs of 2015 was better
Liquid of 2018 is better
FaZe of 2017 was better
he still is
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lul ns proof
hahahaha i cant stop laughing xD
Hes better in choking and eco fragging. Rest devve is KING
same with baitzera etc. but simple is the real statpadder
> not a fan
> post 20+ messages to defend him
well, i didn't said that. you are probably gay for simple tho
yes he s toxic, cause he put edward flamie and zeus to bigg shiit and he just acts like a star that can win all and rest are bad
for me electronic>pimple
device understands the principles of csgo and the teamplay aspect of the game
simple is just an incredible skilled pug hero, looks good in highlight videos but won´t get him to anywhere near to the top
he is at the top. top 2 is the top
This
This.
Is just another retarded post by delude devve fangirls
yeah because being the best at the game helps you win every tournament as we can see xD
Who have said that ?
Big differnce to have 5 players in top 20 and 3 players in top 10 maybe even top 5 compared to what S1mple have
coldzera as a player did not get that much worse in 2018 it was his team that got super bad mostly fallen and fer that was top 5 players before and with good teammates you will win , and now when SK/MIBR was doing really bad coldzera did not win anything or get any MVP's and his rating did get worse because its obvious that its harder to get good stats in a bad team but silver retards like you think its ''harder'' to get good stats in a good team probably
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It does,if he wasnt this good Na'Vi would almost never get close to winning a tournament
he is already at the top 0/8
I think s1mple will get number 1 tho
Who is s1mple? s1mple 0 majors ,, who is he?
A player that together with electronic made Navi top 2. playing 2 vs 5 every game and still made navi top 2
While dev1ce is just baiter that get boosted by gla1ve and xyp9x and they also play 5 vs 5
5v5? every team have at least 1 bot, so 5v4 in the best case
0/8
man look at Na'Vi games last 9 month. Only S1mple and electronic carry their team. Edward and Zeus are dead (like players). They don't understand how to play like a one body. Flamie is very bad, but i hope he could play better this year. And frase "S1mple and electr carrying Na'Vi to top 2" is true. no way. #S1mple_Number_One
Agree. Simple is a better player than dev1ce, But is s1mple a better teamplayer? Do s1mple understand he's team mates? will s1mple be a better player on another team? dev1ce do really well!
Comparing a team with 5 players in top 20 and 3 players in even top 10 maybe even top 5.... to what S1mple have 3 players outside top 20 2 players under 1 rating that lose pretty much every aim-battle they have
And it seems like you already know that S1mle is the much better player.
2016 - #4 with shit NA teammates and even worse teams aswell
2017 - #8 with a really bad Na'Vi
What is that even for question ?
Will S1mple be a better player on another team ?
-Its device that should be asked that
The most important question whether devve would be good in another team. S1mple played for different teams and showed up. Devve? He played for the same core since beginning of this game.
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if s1mple gets top1, then hltv only cares about ratings lol
you cant put in rating a saved gun that won you a forcebuy, or a right rotation in the map, or a 3x3 that the player played right...
device is so much valuable than s1mple, not even close
another good example is n1k14o, he is one of the best in raw skill too, but clearly a dumb player next to a device, xyp, etc
Not
S1mple impact in rounds won 70%
dev1ce only 20 %
We are choosing here the best player, most skilled player and s1mple clearly is the best
Where did you get those madeup stats from
If s1mple gets top1, hltv price that they are not biased and clearly value INDIVIDUAL PLAYER skills over TEAM’S achievements.
+1 This is Top 20 PLAYERS not Top 20 TEAMS we already have the top teams showing. It doesnt matter if your team won more or you got more MVP's And dont get me wrong. S1mples one of the only players I have seen that has placed 2nd in a tournament and got the MVP. That shows how good he is.
yeah, but still, a guy that has more MVPs over the year, its a sign he played good many times on the hardest scenario possible, which are: major finals, biggest events of the years finals, many different crowds etc
a guy like xantares, s1mple, coldzera etc, they can boost stats on groupstage and go out of the event in the round of 8 for example
if we go straigh only about stats, I dont think this is so fair
astralis being so insane this year made device play more super pressure finals than s1mple, and he delivers every fucking time
if you really think this isnt important you dont understand cs.
being a good teamplayer etc dont go to rating for example =)
device plays the same, doesnt matter if its groupstage or a major final
Yes, it is important. But you have to see this is the top 20 PLAYERS. Not Top 20 TEAMS
I get your point that astralis was the better team I 100% agree with that. But dont you think S1mple and electronic has pressure??? if they don't play good, They wont be going past the group stages.
Top 20 players is about stats not team-play if i was team-play why isnt the hole of astralis top 5??? because as I said if It was team-play They should 100% be top 5
As I said I 100% Team-play is important in csgo. But again This is top 20 players not top 20 teams.
I agree, but you are missing my point.
for example, s1mple disapeared on the major final... I say device had more impact cuz he had more chance to play big games, and he didnt disapear on those games, cuz he is a player that he can have huge impact even when hes not going ham, s1mple can do ham and destroy a whole team, but it the team counters him, he has no plan b, he only knows how to play overpeeking and being agressive, to me thats why device had more value than him this year.
I think is dangerous to only put rating in the line, but I understand your point, I just think experienced people that watched cs for years and years will agree with me.
I dont disagree with any of your points. You just cant see its a top 20 players not a team. and you have to agree if S1mple actually stopped peeking for no reason and that he wont win much. But as I said, this is top 20 players not teams. And i have been watching csgo for years.
thing is AFAIK, thoorin admires both players :/
>70% impact rounds
is it rounds when he baits whole team to collect as much info as he can and do few shitty exit frags for ct ?
or is it round when they rushing for t and he running last and collecting frags?
such an impact waow
s2mple became a meme at twitch already 'always last Jebaited' etc
Okay,
20% impact rounds when he waits around corners doing fuck all. Not doing anything. (IDK even know how he made it top 20)
Or when he stays alive at the end of the round and kills the enemy???
S1mple doesnt bait. If he did hes a great baiter winning rounds and as I said 70% impact rounds. NA'VI is a team played around s1mple.
s1mple better than him but it doesn't work like that bro sorry
im not a big fan of dev1ce but he deserve the #1 place.
this is a team based game, not a game which one superstar kill everyone.
there is rules to pick #1 on hltv system and this rules saying device has more mvps and better statistics then s1mple.
in the other hand, my personal idea is s1mple is overrated. yes, he is top 10 player of current cs but he is not a superstar like people talk. godly aim doesnt mean he is the best. first of all, he has too much confidence, thats a big problem. you can see the cost of this problem on save call rounds for navi, when s1mple decided to pick for kill last 10 secs on round and drops awp or something like that.
Again, for deluded users, hltv list is individual players list, not 2018 best teams. Get a clue, kid. Dev2ve has better stats than s1mple? You should check better, dev2ve fangirl. S1mple is far more superior and better player in every aspect than dev2ve.
first off all, please carefull on your language. its 'still' just a game and i belive we are members of a community.
after that, yes hltv list is an individual players list but if you look the lists on close history, you will see the number one players always members of kinda best teams of that year. hltv is not just a statistic or media company, hltv is a important partner of valve to manipulate users according to games future plan. anyway, we will see who is right on Jan 20th. Cya m8
Nah bro it's same . cristiano was on real madrid had a better team so he had better stats and more trophies in the other hand messi can't carry barça alone . yes it's exactly the same astralis is a better team that's why dev1ce is performing better while s1mple stuck in navi can't do too mich alone
I have no clue. S1mple is was by far the best player in 2k18
S1mple clearly better. Device overrated
Device has a lot of MVP because of he is slightly better than anyone in his team. If we rank players in terms of skill from 1 to 10 then in astralis everyone will be like 8-9 and device is 9.2. In navi simple is 10, elec is 9, flamie is 7,5, and zeus + edward like 5. Thats it
s0mple 0 majors -1, Less mvps as well -1
"clearly s1mple is better than him in all categories" even in Majors
8 devve's MVPs are mostly cuz Astralis won the tournament. I must say that most of the time he stole MVPs from his teammates... So those "mvps" cost nothing. Try to check S1mple's MVPs, all were well-deserved and made by unhuman S1mple's performances.
coldzera was the best player of that year, so HLTV gave it to him, not because of SK's run dude...
S1mple is the best player of 2018 by fact.
device without a team no one, just look at the device's score when the team loses. S1mple doesn't need a team to kill everyone.
+1 this is individual rank, both are elite tier1 players and S1mple is miles ahead of him. Btw s1mple's team is 2nd so it is absolutely normal to give S1mple #1 spot. And S1mple deserved it the most.
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when the results will announced?
I'm a fan of dev1ce but i can say that s1mple is number one because the ranking isn't based on team results and s1mple is carrying a team on his back but at the same time dev1ce isn't only getting eco frags he is contributing to astralis success with his play style that's hard to counter and getting eco frags and frags.
Astralis are number 1 in anti-eco so at least dev1ce is doing a good job
i don't really remember any solid clutch or hold by device, instead i remember a lot of whiffs. But for s1mple, everyone knows how many insane rounds he's played. If device is top1, i'm wondering how long can hltv make a highlight video about his play, without eco and exit frags
It’s like cr7 and Messi discussion
Roflkopter
> Why do stupid people think dev1ce is top 1
Fixed.
And now it's a rhetorical question. :D