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All 5 Astralis players in top 13
North America xRoyal 
First time ever that a team has had all 5 players in top 20 right? Well top 13 if anything Xyp #13 Glaive #8 Magisk #7 Dupreeh #4? (Maybe) Device #1/2 Very cool
2019-01-15 09:43
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Germany zeolikk 
By this logic from hltv, pronax deserved to be in top 20 in 2015
2019-01-15 09:46
#2
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Spain Shurpresa 
he did, as well as SK deserve all top10 in 2016
2019-01-15 09:47
lmao....yea lets throw player with 0.97 to top10 just L M A O
2019-01-15 10:20
#17
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Spain Shurpresa 
stats is not everything my friend. T H I N K
2019-01-15 10:33
stats matter A LOT in ranking which is based on them LMAO...
2019-01-15 10:34
#25
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Spain Shurpresa 
actually with rating 2.0 is less based on them than before but oki doki u right my keyboard friend, enjoy ur day
2019-01-15 10:42
You too haha :)
2019-01-15 10:44
SK won like 4 events in 2016. They wasn’t even close to Astralis or fnatic domination.
2019-01-17 09:46
#4
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Denmark MeToxi 
Not in the slightest
2019-01-15 09:58
#5
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Germany zeolikk 
yea no, just look at your flag and flair and think again
2019-01-15 09:59
#6
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Denmark MeToxi 
Just look at your memory, very dementia like. Who in astralis would you compare to this performance level? hltv.org/stats/players/matches/41/pronax..
2019-01-15 10:01
#8
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Other KyLu4k 
Nobody. Pronax has never been even close to top30. He could barely play against tier2 teams and was lowtabbing every game against t1
2019-01-15 10:09
pronax just was a bot that got lucky and carried by his team. look at his performance with other teams. and his stats were far far worse than his team mates stats. he is like a worse version of zeus in NaVi atm. in NaVi you have two shit player that don't deserve to be in top 100 even getting carried by s1mple and electronic. sometimes it is like that. in Astralis nobody is deadweight, every player is doing his job, that is why they are the best.
2019-01-15 10:03
#10
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Germany zeolikk 
0/8 at least you tried
2019-01-15 10:17
don't cry, its the truth
2019-01-15 10:50
#30
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Germany zeolikk 
Pronax was one of the best IGLs in csgo history
2019-01-15 10:57
#32
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Denmark Torner123 
year but his stats were still shit. And this ranking is not about what you have won
2019-01-15 10:59
#33
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Germany zeolikk 
Gla1ve is individually worse than cold, Krimz and twistzz
2019-01-15 10:59
#38
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Denmark Torner123 
very true but miles ahead of pronax back in 2015
2019-01-15 11:08
#39
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United Kingdom fal36 
Krimz and cold yes but not twistzz Also even if he was placed below them all of astralis would still be top 13 so ur point doesnt make sense
2019-01-15 11:14
#40
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Germany zeolikk 
I'm not arguing about the fact that all astralis players are top 13. I just think that gla1ve is kinda overrated
2019-01-15 11:16
#42
smooya | 
United Kingdom fal36 
Where would you put him then?
2019-01-15 11:18
#44
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Germany zeolikk 
11th or 12th
2019-01-15 11:25
nope, he is just overrated. old fnatic would have been fine even without real IGL, game was only aim no brain back then
2019-01-15 11:36
#46
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Germany zeolikk 
0/8
2019-01-15 13:12
#62
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Europe p1peb0mb 
how many majors did s1mple and navi won? zeus won 1 with gambit
2019-01-15 17:23
fluke major against immortals LUL, NaVi dragged down by shitward, inconsistent flamie and bot Zeus
2019-01-15 17:32
#67
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Europe p1peb0mb 
still he won won while navi chocked 3 times
2019-01-15 17:34
yeah NaVi is bad, I agree, never said they are good and not chokers. I just said that sometimes trash players get carried by good players to victory
2019-01-15 17:36
If they are dragged down by him how come they achomplished more with him than without? Remember they were playing with Seized IGL, Guardian & S1mple and they didn't do shit they were fucking garbage not even top 20 team, almost regulated to mountain dew league, s1mple was shit, guardian was shit etc remember this lineup without Zeus? What happened when Zeus came back? They went from almost being regulated out of pro league to a consistent top 2-3 team in the world, he got best performance out of s1mple's career, just like he did with Guardian, Adren, Mou, Hobbit etc all at their peak when Zeus is the IGL must be some weird coincidence huh.
2019-01-15 18:23
0/8
2019-01-15 10:19
#15
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Germany zeolikk 
25k comments never saw you before
2019-01-15 10:30
so what? your post is still 0/8 if you were actually serious with it
2019-01-15 10:31
#18
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Germany zeolikk 
I won't argue with that. Still amazed by the fact that you're on this site forever and you seem rly active but I've never seen you
2019-01-15 10:33
yea interesting:)
2019-01-15 10:33
#35
cadiaN | 
Denmark megz 
Unlike pronax, glaive and fallen (last year) also performed really well in the stats. its not normal for IGL to perform this way. Fallen and glaive seems to be the exception. Their position on this list (and last year) is warranted.
2019-01-15 11:03
#37
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Germany zeolikk 
It's not too hard to perform like gla1ve when he's surrounded by these players
2019-01-15 11:08
#41
smooya | 
United Kingdom fal36 
But he did The ranking isnt about hypotheticals
2019-01-15 11:17
#43
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United States Jamila 
It was too hard for pronax
2019-01-15 11:18
#48
cadiaN | 
Denmark megz 
That makes no sense. We are not looking at KD or something you can explain with him getting eco frags. He had a lot of impact. Won a shitload of clutches and got a shitload of multi kills in important rounds. If its so easy, then why historically, hasn't IGLs performed better on top teams? Your argument makes no sense.
2019-01-15 14:01
#50
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Germany zeolikk 
because Astralis is one of the best teams of all time together with fnatic 2015, and yeah pronax didn't perform well and gla1ve is definitely a better individual player than him. But gla1ve isn't a better player than KRIMZ and cold
2019-01-15 14:19
#52
cadiaN | 
Denmark megz 
This year - his impact has been far higher han cold. Which is why he is better ranked.
2019-01-15 14:38
#55
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Germany zeolikk 
both have 1.12 impact rating, nice logic
2019-01-15 14:56
#56
cadiaN | 
Denmark megz 
And who has more to show for it? Glaive? Okay, then tell me who of them had more impact... Looking at the full picture I don't care if cold had a 1.5 impact rating, "the impact" couldn't be felt as he mostly unsuccessful of even pushing them to playoffs.
2019-01-15 16:39
#57
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Germany zeolikk 
yea because cold played with deadweights like stewie and tarik gla1ve is surrounded by good teammates
2019-01-15 17:15
#64
cadiaN | 
Denmark megz 
There is no arguing with your logic..........
2019-01-15 17:28
#63
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Netherlands EJVN 
Rofl, like fnatic didn't have star players back in their era. olof being the best in the world, flusha always a top 5 player back then and krimz who was one of the finest riflers (and still is), JW always capable of going huge. astralis skill level among players is not higher than fnatics back in 14/15. so, what is your point exactly?
2019-01-15 17:24
and you have fnatic flair LOL
2019-01-15 18:19
#3
Sweden Retch 
Who in Astralis are you considering to be on promax level in 2015?
2019-01-15 09:54
#22
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Brazil davidS_ 
Devic3
2019-01-15 10:38
Zonic
2019-01-15 14:01
Frederik byskov
2019-01-15 14:28
#14
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CIS DanPP 
krimz and naf over xyp9x and coldzera. ahhfahah
2019-01-15 10:28
#23
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Brazil davidS_ 
Krimz only had 1 event which his rating got below 1.0
2019-01-15 10:39
both krimz and mainly naf were better...what do you smoke?
2019-01-15 10:40
#27
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Hungary Bonte 
IE?
2019-01-15 10:45
Proud of my boys!
2019-01-15 10:58
device 2
2019-01-15 11:03
NiKo = All astralis players nt
2019-01-15 13:14
#53
Twistzz | 
Russia Roneee 
Still cant make 87-0 Pepega
2019-01-15 14:40
Cause they are CSGODS In 2019 you will see them all in top10 Bookmark this please DevveKING 20mvps+ in total inc. CSGO GOAT (1.6 NEO)
2019-01-15 14:43
2019 will be the fall of Astralis nt
2019-01-15 17:22
fall? wtf lul who top1 gonna be? only astralis rest is trash lul might vp, but no taz, no win
2019-01-15 17:31
Astralis will fall off like they always do and FaZe will take it for a month and fall then it will bounce around from team to team until Liquid/NAVI finally gets their shit together and take it
2019-01-15 18:16
look at device placing at top 20 hltv, look history of AstraGOD core since tsm, they have been always on top and now they got all pieces together, they are dedicated and hunger for success even more no one can stop em and they cant be compared to ANY other team, they just best ofc kjarbye, karrigan, cajunb dragged them down but now they got best team (top13 all 5)
2019-01-15 18:27
They will fall teams will catch up to their play style and that will be the end
2019-01-15 18:45
So long they catch up huh? They got no clue like you play your mm game vs higher ranks :P
2019-01-15 18:54
When they fall I’ll be waiting for my apology
2019-01-15 20:04
they will fall in 2020, change 1-2 players and rekt again
2019-01-15 20:34
#60
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Poland Este 
You think they will swap Audi brand for Nvidia's?
2019-01-15 17:21
Didn't one of the French teams do that already? LDLC in 2014 possibly ? 2014 LDLC Shox #8 Happy #10 Apex #15 NBK #17 Kioshima #19 hltv.org/news/13903/top-20-players-of-20..
2019-01-15 18:05
I think they had smithzzzzz in the team.
2019-01-15 18:11
I mean every player I listed in 2014 played in LDLC at some point so I think that makes it valid or no? Not saying they were together at same time just saying they all played in LDLC in 2014 at some point and were all in the top 20 which I think makes it reasonable to say a team has already done this before.
2019-01-15 18:16
no apex is wrong, smithzz played with them and didnt make top20
2019-01-15 18:17
sorry, swag-iwnl top1 retards
2019-01-15 18:56
#86
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Australia liazz 
nt EspiranTo
2019-01-15 20:35
NT ISSAA
2019-01-16 10:50
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