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“Danish bias”
n0rb3r7 | 
Russia SeeYouIn100Years 
Naf > magisk, glaive Electronic > dupreeh So what danish bias now?
2019-01-16 20:02
#1
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Canada dev2ce 
They are saving it for device, if every astralis player would be top 5 it would be too obvious.
2019-01-16 20:03
#5
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Europe pencilvester 
/close
2019-01-16 20:04
#8
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Australia liazz 
+101010010101010000
2019-01-16 20:06
#9
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Argentina Macaca_Sinica 
+1231231412
2019-01-16 20:06
#10
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Austria shaakeh 
+9999999999999
2019-01-16 20:06
lmao +1
2019-01-16 20:06
+6942069
2019-01-16 20:09
+11122222222233333
2019-01-16 20:10
#16
TACO | 
Denmark Doktor_Q 
LUL
2019-01-16 20:10
+#1
2019-01-16 20:16
+152013
2019-01-16 20:18
+152383296248754
2019-01-16 20:19
#45
zonic | 
Denmark KrynexCS 
+1
2019-01-16 20:22
#60
Simple | 
Mexico Ch4vez 
+213456242136367564785635412412341546
2019-01-16 20:31
#79
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Finland Tusku 
+1
2019-01-16 20:56
+0
2019-01-16 21:31
+111
2019-01-16 21:31
#114
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Denmark far3l 
+1,9
2019-01-17 10:30
But they are in top5
2019-01-17 11:02
+11111111
2019-01-17 11:02
damn he's right
2019-01-17 11:31
#126
hyde | 
United Kingdom 0outof8 
+1
2019-01-17 11:32
Next LVL tinfoil hat
2019-01-17 14:07
+1
2019-01-17 14:09
this
2019-01-17 17:06
+1
2019-01-18 01:28
+1
2019-01-18 02:01
+100000000000000 200iq ggwp commended
2019-01-18 09:20
#169
ozzy | 
Korea Ozzy! 
+111 keeping the train alive
2019-01-18 09:28
+1000
2019-01-18 09:41
let's see who will be top 1
2019-01-16 20:03
genuine question. why does everyone write top 1, not number 1 or 1. ?
2019-01-16 21:31
no idea tbh
2019-01-16 21:32
yeah idk. it bothers me, dunno why
2019-01-16 21:35
It didn't bother me until you mentioned it, but now I'm with you 100%
2019-01-17 10:24
my curse will slowly takeover all of you
2019-01-17 14:39
Do you want me to take his Soul?
2019-01-18 01:29
#116
NiKo | 
United Kingdom lr1015 
group of the top 5 players = top 5. group of best player = top 1
2019-01-17 10:44
Whats a group of one
2019-01-17 11:30
#127
NiKo | 
United Kingdom lr1015 
a group with one thing in it
2019-01-17 13:59
But.... then it's not really a group, is it..? ;)
2019-01-17 14:04
#133
NiKo | 
United Kingdom lr1015 
how so? group doesn't necessarily need more than 1 element
2019-01-17 14:09
Yes it does.
2019-01-17 14:10
How can one person be "a group of persons"? How can one dog be "a group of dogs"? Etc. It takes more than one to make a group.
2019-01-17 14:12
#141
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Brazil hoovR 
it depends, mathematics uses "group" to define a single object pretty often, so it's technically not wrong
2019-01-17 17:09
But these are not numbers. These are players.
2019-01-17 18:10
#143
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Brazil hoovR 
i said it because, technically, it still isn't wrong, the language gives the room for that
2019-01-17 19:52
I think we just have to agree to disagree, mate... :) Technically it IS wrong to call one person 'a group'. You cannot always apply technical math terms to other areas. Read this: www.thefreedictionary.com/group
2019-01-18 02:55
#148
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World Damon1174 
its an hltv meme now. Someone was talking about top 2 and 3 and some guy was like top 1 and now its mega meme
2019-01-18 01:28
so much broken englando on hltv it became memetic. Like 4rd
2019-01-18 02:07
#3
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Brazil IdolaMochi 
dev1ce > s1mple
2019-01-16 20:03
+11111
2019-01-17 10:39
Teamplay yes, raw skill no
2019-01-17 11:30
-1
2019-01-17 14:09
#152
Snax | 
Norway JKR01 
Hello police? Yes, this post right here
2019-01-18 01:58
now im starting to believe that Niko will be #2 where he deserves
2019-01-16 20:04
#32
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Russia mmmmmmajestic 
Nah, impossible. 1. Device 2. s1mple 3. NiKo 4. Electronic HLTV is probably doing this to make them look unbiased while putting Device as the 1st.
2019-01-16 20:17
XDDDDDDDDDDDD
2019-01-16 20:20
What will you say when device will be 2nd?
2019-01-16 20:21
#51
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Russia mmmmmmajestic 
Nothing. He deserves the 2nd place. Everyone knows that Astralis was the best team in 2018 but s1mple was much better than device and NiKo. This is a players ranking and s1mple truly deserves the 1st place. BTW statswise NiKo was slightly better than device but device deserves the 2nd place.
2019-01-16 20:29
#52
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Canada dev2ce 
+1
2019-01-16 20:28
Yeah and electronic deserves do be 4th with zero mvps as well?
2019-01-16 20:28
tarik has a major mvp yet he didn't even make top 20, stats>mvps.
2019-01-16 20:55
tarik didn't do shit the whole year other than that Electronic and dupreeh have the same rating
2019-01-16 20:57
hltv.org/stats/players/compare/7398/dupr.. actually electronic has a slightly better rating with 5 more maps.
2019-01-16 21:00
All matches? Come on
2019-01-16 21:59
+1 dupreeh only has better AWP KPR (electronic never awps), better hs (which doesn't even mattter, kpr matters), more opening kills (entry fragger), and slightly better surviving. Although it is close, electronic is the better player. He also has significantly more impact.
2019-01-17 02:59
#112
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Denmark RasmusAS 
-1 No shit electronic has more impact, he plays on a team with edward and fucking Zeus? Dupreeh is better and had the 4th stolen just like the major MVP /Closed
2019-01-17 10:21
/open Although I agree that dupreeh did deserve the major MVP, dupreeh as an individual player is not better. I doubt dupreeh would be able to do what electronic does if he has bots for teammates (aside from s1mple of course). People are saying it's easier to play better with shit teammates but that's just completely false. Dupreeh gets amazing support from his teammates as an entry fragger (along with magisk) with their amazing utility usage and teamplay. NaVi doesn't have that and therefore players like s1mple or electronic have to do more on their own. I thought dupreeh would be #4 too but electronic deserves it fully. /closed
2019-01-17 17:06
#144
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Denmark RasmusAS 
/open The fact that navi doesnt have the same level of teamwork and utility usage is exactly one of the reasons dupreeh is better tho, he works together with his team to perform better, this takes a lot of practice and imo only makes him a better player also individually. /closed
2019-01-17 20:51
/open i do agree that dupreeh is an amazing team player, but he is also surrounded by amazing teammates who support him well. Electronic may or may not be a better team player, but he is surrounded by only 1 good player who isn't even a support. And i don't think your teamplay makes your individual game better, but it can improve others on your team. At the end of the day, they both are amazing players who've had a great year and they are very close in level. /closed
2019-01-18 01:25
/open /closed
2019-01-18 02:59
Good point well put Anyway, 1 place higher or lower on this list will always be a matter of opinion. I think what matters to the Astralis players is the TEAM ranking.... and Dupreeh will do his best to overshadow Electronic when the teams meet
2019-01-18 01:56
+1 yes i totally agree. Dupreeh has been a major part in Astralis being the best team of all time.
2019-01-18 02:14
-1 There is no way Electronic should be placed higher than Dupreeh. Of course he has higher impact since he plays on a team that is built around him and s1mple. Dupreeh opens on T-side and still has amazing stats.
2019-01-17 11:04
#138
2019-01-17 17:06
thats why dupreeh and whole astralis have best year stats wise in 2018, if just put any astralis player in any team except astralis they would drop off to results of last year or even lower if you put them in tier-2-3 team(kinda navi without 1 of the stars electronic/s1mple)
2019-01-18 02:01
+1
2019-01-18 02:14
Dude he is playing with s1mple,how is he supposed to get MVPs?
2019-01-16 21:35
Well Forest played with Get_Right, still won some, Fer won one with cold being top1 for 2 years straight, Fallen some too, Flusha and Krimez won while Olof was dominant etc. I still think he deserved to be 5th
2019-01-16 21:38
S1mple > all of them. S1mples so good he won mvps even when didnt win. So how is electronic supposed to get mvps with s1mple
2019-01-17 03:15
#85
JW | 
Vietnam jRAYMD 
I mean device was the best player of the team in the world he also won the most mvps and he won more tournament then simple so idk why simple would be top1
2019-01-16 21:19
#87
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Russia mmmmmmajestic 
Do you think its hard to win events when all 5 players of the team are ranked in top 20 of 2018? There has never been something like that. s1mple has got almost the same amount of MVP awards while he has to play with 2 players who are not even ranked as top 100 for sure.
2019-01-16 21:32
they're ranked top20 cuz they win genius
2019-01-16 21:38
#97
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Russia mmmmmmajestic 
Do you really think Edward and Zeus would have been rated at least as 19th and 20th players of the year if they had won as many events as Astralis? D E L U S I O N A L
2019-01-16 21:45
#98
JW | 
Vietnam jRAYMD 
I mean they are losing tournament bcs of zeus and edward so if navi was winning as much as astralis it would have also mean that edward and zeus were doing great Also as you said they are all in the top 15 and this should be even more impressive that device is outclassing them
2019-01-16 21:50
#99
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Russia mmmmmmajestic 
He wasn't actually outclassing them all. He was probably shinning more than smoke killers aka xyp9x and gla1ve but Magisk and especially Dupreeh were close to him.
2019-01-16 21:53
nt ukraine fake flag s2mple deserves nothing
2019-01-17 03:10
I hate Ukraine and most ukrainians and you'd know it if you at least visited my account lmfao
2019-01-17 10:11
#146
Xyp9x | 
Portugal CRMN1 
Smart ruski. Cheers brotherino.
2019-01-18 01:27
s1mple>device>NiKo
2019-01-17 10:13
they are just doing this so they can force device #1 and say that they are unbiased this is bullshit
2019-01-16 20:05
#49
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Wrong. Device being number 1 has nothing to do with HLTV foul play, it's because Device would've been the best player of that year. Frankly it's a little insulting to the Astralis players that everything they've accomplished across the year has been rendered moot because trolls on HLTV think it's purely "Danish bias". Poppycock.
2019-01-16 20:25
#53
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Canada dev2ce 
Do you honestly believe device was top 1 of 2018?
2019-01-16 20:28
#57
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
What do you mean "was"? No-one actually knows if Device or s1mple is the number one player of 2018, you are just assuming so based on insidious opinion. If you're going to be an unkind person, at least do so when the actual rankings have officially ended.
2019-01-16 20:30
#64
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Canada dev2ce 
What part of my comment was unkind?
2019-01-16 20:34
#68
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
All of it. Read post #58 beneath this one within the same comment chain.
2019-01-16 20:38
#70
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Canada dev2ce 
Yes, expressing the opinion that device should not be top 1 of 2018 is clearly unkind.
2019-01-16 20:39
#71
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
That is not what you stated at all, so you can play the victim card elsewhere. You single-handedly discredited everything Device ever did to satisfy your own egotistical arrogance. An opinion is an opinion and will always be respected - but it's still unfair to HLTV and Astralis, as well as unkind despite being a disrespectful opinion.
2019-01-16 20:41
#73
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Canada dev2ce 
"You single-handedly discredited everything Device ever did to satisfy your own egotistical arrogance." I don't recall this.
2019-01-16 20:42
#74
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Try harder... How can you be so insulting and attempt to wash it all away like it never happened? I am done replying to dissonant arrogance. Have a good day.
2019-01-16 20:46
#76
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Canada dev2ce 
Have a good day, Jonty04l32!
2019-01-16 20:47
Do you want me to take his soul?
2019-01-18 01:32
I know for a fact that s1mple is 2018's number one. Everybody knows that. If you think that HLTV's view is sacred, absolute, you're wrong. Good Lord. Also, UK scene LOL
2019-01-16 22:08
#122
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
No you don't... This is your assumption because technically we don't know until the official announcement has been made. Both Device and s1mple are contenders for the number one spot and both ultimately deserve it respectively. Read my posts correctly before replying to them haphazardly next time. Have a good day.
2019-01-17 11:29
#55
D0cC | 
Netherlands duudiGOD 
wow u back mr jonty
2019-01-16 20:29
#59
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
I never left, but I apologise for the absence. Christmas time was rough, that combined with house renovation and the like... Utter nightmare. :D
2019-01-16 20:31
Also it's insulting hltv staff, since they're putting so much effort into making this ranking, and still some people who have seen couple matches, couple highlights and have very superficial ability of checking stats, think they know better and they'll be calling hltv biased. But what to expect from people who spam this website with shit like "simple 1st or I quit hltv" as if they were thinking that their opinion matters, right
2019-01-16 20:31
#62
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Exactly right. Couldn't have put it better myself. Disregarding so much work by the HLTV community and the players combined just because of an insipid opinion is just downright cruel and undeserved.
2019-01-16 20:32
So cancerous to open this site every single day to the same troll threads who spit the same useless garbage out every single day. So ruining. Its been a long ride to rank 1 so far holy crap.
2019-01-16 20:37
#69
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Trolls will be trolls, so just treat them like so. No water off our backs, is it? We know they are wrong and we know they're accusations and assumptions are also hogwash, so just let them be... You cannot change the minds of arrogant people, so they have to learn for themselves or forever be miserably in tune to their own whistle.
2019-01-16 20:39
Wise words, but hard to do honestly. Oh well rank 1 coming up soon so we can get on with a new year and new trolls once a again lol
2019-01-16 20:42
#75
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Honestly Device deserves to be number 1 just like s1mple, so we'll see what happens despite the storm of trolls. :) Have a good day.
2019-01-16 20:47
Agreed :) Thanks you too
2019-01-16 21:10
#7
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Norway PeteZz 
Unpopular opinion: There is no danish bias.
2019-01-16 20:05
+1
2019-01-16 20:15
#56
Denmark ram0 
+2
2019-01-16 20:29
#86
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Denmark MeToxi 
+3
2019-01-16 21:28
How did Valde ended up above eathan then?
2019-01-16 21:33
who the fuck is eathan
2019-01-17 03:12
nathE
2019-01-17 03:26
he is not top 20
2019-01-17 03:32
better rating, better stats(top 5 dpr it's fucking good for player out of top-20) and nrg = north this year
2019-01-18 02:05
and what the fuck has he done this year
2019-01-18 02:16
team achivements = shit in this rating then all of astralis player except gla1ve would be higher for sure nahtE was so much better then valde +0,03 rating in big events and other stats, i guess it's first time when player that top-5 dpr out of top-20 and ofc it cuz of danish guy that was way worse
2019-01-18 09:18
#171
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Denmark dR_JaCkPoT 
Stopped reading after "nahtE was so much better then valde +0,03 rating" ehhh k
2019-01-18 09:34
+0.03 rating is a lot, it's like compere flamie to xyp9x, yea xyp9x is kinda the same, i dont get why he is in top-20 it should be flamie LUL
2019-01-18 09:58
+1 It's even a Serb making the list :D
2019-01-18 09:24
+1
2019-01-16 20:07
#13
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Bulgaria FrostNixon 
They did that so that we say they are not biased towards danes and now they can make device no1
2019-01-16 20:08
i'd say they did that, because na'vi 2nd-3rd team all the year and they could place only two guys from na'vi to TOP20, so i expect simpel 1st
2019-01-16 20:12
#48
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Bulgaria FrostNixon 
I mean they fucked up once, gtr was first instead of flusha, however if they do it a second time, it's over.
2019-01-16 20:24
#50
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United Kingdom Exquis1te 
exactly +1
2019-01-16 20:26
#19
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
There was never any to begin with... It's the trolling of people who haven't the slightest idea of how HLTV rankings or statistics work. It's not even a Danish person doing the rankings - they simply own the site and the HLTV branding. Don't feed them logic when they never cared for it anyway.
2019-01-16 20:12
you are right once again jonty
2019-01-16 20:13
#22
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Greetings, friend! :)
2019-01-16 20:14
#24
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Norway NoregNik 
Jonty can I kiss you?
2019-01-16 20:15
#29
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Good evening, friend. :) It would be impossible to kiss from where we both are currently. My apologies... Best I can do is this: "<3" Have a good day! :)
2019-01-16 20:16
#31
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Norway NoregNik 
:( Loveu
2019-01-16 20:16
#44
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Love you too, man. :D Have a wonderful 2019! ^^
2019-01-16 20:22
YOU ARE FINALLY BACK!!!! you have been missing like for 2 months what happened ?
2019-01-16 20:16
#39
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Hello, friend! :) I was extremely busy over the Christmas Holidays, as I'm sure everyone else was. That combined with house renovations lead to my PC being occupied by my Brother mainly because he doesn't have his. My Sister also doesn't have hers, as her room is currently on the chopping block. xD Just hectic havoc at home currently. I apologise greatly for the absence, friend. :)
2019-01-16 20:20
haha Have a nice day!
2019-01-16 20:22
#47
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Thank you. You too, friend. :)
2019-01-16 20:23
#35
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Russia zbogus 
you are too smart for this site
2019-01-16 20:18
#43
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
I'd thank you for the compliment, but what I typed up should be the common normality of HLTV, surely... :( Have a good day. :)
2019-01-16 20:21
thanks thorin
2019-01-16 20:58
#23
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Palestine Baitor69 
dupreeh > naf is the most baised i've seen for a while
2019-01-16 20:15
#27
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Norway NoregNik 
I don't like Astralis but it's not biased lol. Dupreeh is better than NAF.
2019-01-16 20:15
#65
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Palestine Baitor69 
0/8 Naf this year >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dupreeh
2019-01-16 20:35
#26
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Ukraine extezy10 
after device first place make this thread again dude
2019-01-16 20:16
#34
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Device being first place wouldn't prove HLTV to be biased whatsoever, it would be the norm considering he won the most MVP's of 2018. Just because Device is Danish and the HLTV site is Danish doesn't mean any foul play is going on at all... Like I stated before - it's not even a Danish person doing the ranking.
2019-01-16 20:18
#63
s1mple | 
Europe imNTX 
yes, it proves he is a regular awper with good team mates, he is boring give any faggot 6 months of training and they can do the same as him
2019-01-16 20:33
#66
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Frankly you fail to understand professionalism in CS:GO, so discrediting years and years of top-level CS:GO for some juvenile 6-month regime is more than ridiculous. Your opinions are respected, but they couldn't be further from the truth.
2019-01-16 20:37
so why then electronic is higher then dupreeh? no mvp less evp, just a bit better in turms of stats if you put electronic higher then dupreeh you for sure gonna put s1mple higher then device
2019-01-18 02:07
#160
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
I never said s1mple wouldn't be higher than Device at all... I stated if Device is number 1, it wouldn't make HLTV biased whatsoever. Both s1mple or Device could be number 1 and it has absolutely nothing to do with "Danish bias" no matter the result.
2019-01-18 02:15
i know, and how it's not baised if by all mvp-evp and team achivements s1mple-device is the same as electronic-dupreeh, but in turms of stats s1mple miles ahead of device while electronic kinda the same, just a bit better, if you just look at this 2 cases there is no such thing that device is better then s1mple, if they really make device top-1 it's 100% bias if electronic surpass dupreeh there is no reason why device should be top-1
2019-01-18 09:28
#174
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Number 1 will either be occupied by Device or s1mple and honestly I'm glad there is no predetermined winner this year, like there was the last two years. ^^
2019-01-18 12:48
i was thinking the same like device more achivements and s1mple better stats, before xyp9x #13, it's like 95/5 for s1mple after magisk lower then naf it's kinda 99/1 and after electronic higher then dupreeh it should be 100 for 0 in favour of s1mple ofc if hltv is not danish bais, it's more like 65 for 35 device over niko to top-2
2019-01-18 12:54
All of astralis > NAF most of the top fucking 20 are better than NAF
2019-01-16 20:17
#41
smooya | 
United Kingdom fal36 
kk
2019-01-16 20:20
#61
s1mple | 
Europe imNTX 
thats true
2019-01-16 20:32
No.
2019-01-18 09:27
No bias. You know what team rules so of course the players of that team are in the top and they just happen to be Danes. Quit being envious, go practice aand maybe some day you'll on a top list.
2019-01-16 20:18
Well if you arent baiting ur stupid. Im saying that they arent biased
2019-01-16 20:50
#82
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France Zywoomeister 
No way device is #1.
2019-01-16 20:59
Yes everyone who said device was getting mvps because of a danish bias are idiots, this is not breaking news(danish bias which apparently doesn't apply to dupreeh, gla1ve, and xyp)
2019-01-17 03:31
People that think HLTV is biased are people with tinfoil hats.
2019-01-17 11:00
i am glad to see elec in this place, astralis fan shut the **** off, that was absoluetly deserved to see godtronic(1.21) higher than acneboy(1.16) and noobreeh(1.17). U can say that he hasnt mvp, ofc omg he hasnt, that was expected(his teammate s1mple lul), he doesnt win much events but fcking remember that this is top 20 players of 2018 not teams, players where is most important aspect is individual skill. Also remember that most imoprtant is rating 2.0, not mvp and anything else, rating 2.0 is the foundation and basis of this top. elec has such a god year, but it is all, of his power in this year, he cant bit NiKo he was better, but it is great to i am really happy to see him at this place. #4 Denis "electronic" Sharipov... deserved and expected...
2019-01-17 11:02
#130
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Korea XigNw0w 
Danish Bias 10000000000000000000%
2019-01-17 14:08
they do valde > ethan
2019-01-17 14:40
#166
device | 
Yugoslavia mrmojo 
+99999999999 dupreeh deserved higher placing than electronic and Magisk&glai1ve > NAF
2019-01-18 09:23
Ezzzz
2019-01-20 20:11
Danish bias hahaha, there never was any
2019-01-20 20:12
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