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mouz is done
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Finland jUPPE! 
This is the end of this roster.
2019-01-17 20:28
wtf was that from ChrisJ walking on molotov
2019-01-17 20:28
#7
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Israel aequus 
YOLO
2019-01-17 20:29
desperation
2019-01-17 20:31
#30
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Finland k0ngeeeee 
wtf was that from STYKO in ventroom..........
2019-01-17 20:36
#34
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Czech Republic ondrakilian 
and ropz died 3x in molo and 1 of them was Oskar´s molo..
2019-01-17 20:37
XD Seriously? Which round?
2019-01-17 20:50
ChrisJ died from Oskar's molo running ct from B site on cache.
2019-01-18 09:17
#114
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Czech Republic ondrakilian 
ah true, mb so ropz died only 2x on molo :)
2019-01-18 15:22
Yep xD
2019-01-18 16:38
#42
NiKo | 
Poland Looopie 
or styko jumping from smoke xd
2019-01-17 20:40
thats was a huge WTF too lmao he was trying to bunny hop all the way to the bombsite lmao
2019-01-17 20:47
#46
NiKo | 
Poland Looopie 
sad that mouz is so inconsistent also when they're on backfoot they tend to tilt too much
2019-01-17 20:48
#47
NiKo | 
Poland Looopie 
seems like only sunny and ropz are calm
2019-01-17 20:48
#115
ZywOo | 
Poland noxuuuu 
yeah ropz is very calm...underperforming as fuk
2019-01-18 15:24
Styko falling to his death in popdog xD
2019-01-18 09:18
#51
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Denmark ram0 
its the iBuyPower choke over again lol, but they did not try to choke
2019-01-17 20:52
LOSING TO TIER 3 TEAM LULW LOSING TO TIER 3 TEAM LULW LOSING TO TIER 3 TEAM LULW LOSING TO TIER 3 TEAM LULW
2019-01-17 20:28
Fakeflagger Confirmed English people aren't so salty/stupid
2019-01-17 20:34
i mean im pretty British but ok
2019-01-17 20:35
Then don't talk in caps or say "LUL" Leave the salt to us Americans right?
2019-01-17 20:37
LULW
2019-01-18 08:54
LUL
2019-01-18 08:56
LULW
2019-01-18 10:00
LUL
2019-01-18 12:20
#111
Zeus | 
Finland Olter 
OMEGALUL
2019-01-18 13:11
He could be scotish
2019-01-17 20:51
English people aren't so toxic? I mean I've had my fair deal of experiences with them so I can't entirely support this statement
2019-01-18 08:57
#64
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Europe Cirro 
Your brain is tier 3
2019-01-18 08:50
#3
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Netherlands Gosharu1 
I agree, this is horrible. The fact that ChrisJ said they only prepared for 7 days and did not play during holidays is so shocking to me, like these guys get paid so much- do they even want it?
2019-01-17 20:28
its that's true they should be fucking ashamed
2019-01-17 20:31
It's actually a shame they get payed so much and don't even practice. There are so many teams that put in everything and don't receive anything. Pro gaming is for young people and not for old farts who don't really want it.
2019-01-17 21:03
#71
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
Yea, they definetly should be working 16h/day and dont get hollidays at all.
2019-01-18 09:03
Their last match was December 12th. They could have 2 weeks break till after christmas and practice for 2+weeks before minor started. Its pathetic to not practice if you want to achieve anything. They probably don't care as long as they get paid from org.
2019-01-18 09:43
They just thought they can make holidays longer because they will win this minor anyways without any practice. And now someone will get replaced
2019-01-18 09:51
there is no teams that work 16h/day wtf, and they have holidays all the time usually they practice before tournaments but not this time. P.S. im working 12h/day for 443 neto, okay 2 days work 2 days free and they get like 20k eur/month + prize money so i guess they should have prepare for tournament alteast for 2-4 hours a day
2019-01-18 09:45
#90
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
stopped reading at "they have hollidays all the time". You know nothing about the life of a gaming pro my friend.
2019-01-18 09:57
"Yea, they definetly should be working 16h/day and dont get hollidays at all." yea and you now it better LEL, and yea they have holidays time by time: 1) tournaments doesnt happen like every day like u are telling 2) they doesnt attend to all tournaments 3) and when they do there is small chance to play all tournament days aka getting top3 4) When team reaches/achieves some point they stop pracc so much as before 5) mostly new players/teams your 16/h a day casual work+ gaming P.S. send me proof that they dont have day off
2019-01-18 12:14
#103
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
>day off >hollidays Bro if you think it's compareable to the freetime of a football player than you are dead wrong. They do not only play tournaments or go dm training. There is a lot of analyzing of own and opponent demos. There are onlinegames regulary. I cant send you any proof of their schedule? How could I. If you think its a chill job with high pay than you wrong :c I see it as a very annoying job tbh.
2019-01-18 12:42
Its not cool to get to that level but after that its for sure chill last mouz game december 12 "There are onlinegames regulary. " (yea and i know that they playend some cs for that free month but not like 8hors a day) ofc there is but they doesnt play all of them And of what im heard some teams just pracc more before major or big tournaments like 2 week bootcamp where 10h/per day doing stuff as u described +prac with other teams but before that they just chill P.S. we still talking only about mousesports? or esports in general? if in general then i agree to you like 90% Tbh i dont know why i joined to this conversation but gl mann irl
2019-01-18 13:03
#109
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
"we still talking only about mousesports?" Well I was talking in general about cs:go pros. "Tbh i dont know why i joined to this conversation" Well I was just making an overstatement because the guy couldnt understand that they didnt play during hollidays (I bet they did play a bit anyway), since I can understand that they dont. Sure, if they would be highly ambitious looking towards the minor than they wouldnt really make hollidays at all. They just took it way to easy and got what they deserved.
2019-01-18 13:09
indeed
2019-01-18 13:11
#112
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Turkey tastemycobra 
It’s not shocking to me. Some players like oskar and sunny are washed up. They think they are the best players out there and are not going hard enough. I am sure chrisj is very annoyed with this lack of discipline.
2019-01-18 13:16
#116
ZywOo | 
Poland noxuuuu 
twiter, instagram,Gucci shoes,Gucci bags it's hard life my man...no time for video games :D
2019-01-18 15:26
#4
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Slovakia johank0 
i think -oskar coming
2019-01-17 20:29
-oskar and -sunny
2019-01-17 20:29
both in top 20 yeahhhh riiiiight
2019-01-17 20:32
#38
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Czech Republic ondrakilian 
yeah oskar best player of 2018 for mouz sure they will kick him xD
2019-01-17 20:39
ure so delusional :S
2019-01-18 09:44
#65
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Europe Cirro 
-ropz for sure sunny and oskar no chance
2019-01-18 08:54
+1
2019-01-17 20:29
#8
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Poland DaVarrix 
-STYKO +Snax xD
2019-01-17 20:30
#9
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Poland bialyJ 
lol because they kicked snax
2019-01-17 20:30
#56
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
lol no snax is shit, STYKO actually did his job. The rest of the team just shat the bed.
2019-01-17 20:59
Very much agree, if the roster was to undergo changes I really hope they keep STYKO.
2019-01-18 10:08
#107
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Brazil Bicycle 
+1
2019-01-18 13:05
#59
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Netherlands ZoMilan 
Remember how mouz even got here? Yes that's right
2019-01-17 21:04
#61
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Poland bialyJ 
now they will kick styko again trust me
2019-01-17 21:13
Good they are out. I hate looking at their doll faces. Zero personallity in this team
2019-01-17 20:30
#37
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Spain VIKTORAL 
astralis fan talking lmao
2019-01-17 20:38
Hes even a fan of xyp9x one of the most emotionless players ever. 10/10 meme
2019-01-17 20:42
Dont forget he looks like Frankenstein
2019-01-17 20:53
lmao
2019-01-17 21:04
Frankenstein lookin ass
2019-01-18 08:57
lol
2019-01-18 16:40
#108
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Brazil Bicycle 
[XYP9X FLAIR TALKING ABOUT A TEAM HAVING NO PERSONALITY] some people just have 0 self-awareness huh
2019-01-18 13:09
#11
shox | 
Norway fen0m 
are they gonna be eliminated if they lose now?
2019-01-17 20:30
#16
oskar | 
Denmark SteveX21 
yes
2019-01-17 20:31
why so easy
2019-01-17 20:30
#13
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Canada 69this69that 
-chrisj -sunny -oskar +ex6 +nawk +zehn
2019-01-17 20:31
0/8
2019-01-17 20:31
#27
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Canada 69this69that 
-styko +flusha -ropz + sonic
2019-01-17 20:35
-1 for ropz
2019-01-17 20:37
#35
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Canada 69this69that 
yeah i wasnt gonna -him but that guy 0/8'd me
2019-01-17 20:38
Ooff
2019-01-17 20:54
#17
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Finland yesyess 
i agree. This is huge loss and i dont think they can recover this
2019-01-17 20:31
snax was the problem OMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEGALUL
2019-01-17 20:32
#21
GuardiaN | 
Poland JKG 
yup finally -oskar is coming i think they will finally kick ''support'' styko too
2019-01-17 20:32
#22
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Europe Freeburger97 
yea probably, they will be so tilted after this match
2019-01-17 20:33
not over yet
2019-01-17 20:33
Maybe majors are not mousesports thing :(
2019-01-17 20:36
-lmbt +new coach +rework everything
2019-01-17 20:35
#28
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Korea KasPro 
shit team styko on team what u expect
2019-01-17 20:35
#63
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United Kingdom Dogehino 
I really don't think hes the issue, everyone blames STYKO as hes mostly bottom fragger. But what people don't understand is what he does for Mouz, the positions he plays, anchoring the sites and etc. When they kicked him for Snax in July everything went to shit (other than a fluke at New York) and then they get him back and do better but now they're just all tilted and I don't see this roster coming back.
2019-01-17 21:21
#76
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Denmark no1cares 
When they get him back, they played worse
2019-01-18 09:15
WHERE'S OSKARSPORTS? SUCK IT
2019-01-17 20:36
#36
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Spain akproxx 
rip oskar
2019-01-17 20:38
#39
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Spain VIKTORAL 
sad :(
2019-01-17 20:39
#40
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Switzerland hanniba1fade 
this fucking sucks. now the major hype is gone for me
2019-01-17 20:39
exactly good old times during Eleague Boston :\
2019-01-17 21:05
#74
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
+1 really sad :c
2019-01-18 09:11
#91
chrisJ | 
France Escher 
Same :(
2019-01-18 09:59
#41
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Brazil H3xxx 
Rip mouz ridiculous game
2019-01-17 20:40
It’s like they dont even talk ingame. Asbergers team
2019-01-17 20:40
#48
allu | 
North America N1tsuA 
After major: Sunny to Ence
2019-01-17 20:50
Mouz should create roster around TaZ Pasha NEO
2019-01-17 20:54
yes mouz is done, but I think they already were done before this event. for sure there is no positive mood in this team .They wanted to kick styko in early 2018 and actually kicked him later.They dont have changed their minds but they cant buy another player. everyone is tilted there. listen to chrisJ...they started to play again 7 days ago, what a joke. and he said " yeah we`re not in shape" like someone who doesnt care or playing in an random online league with 20 more matches to play and enough time to "warm up". ridiculous to prepare like that for the major, only dead teams do so. I guess the vaillance kids were on the server and prepared for this, like normal teams do.
2019-01-17 20:55
#62
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United Kingdom Dogehino 
I think this team is too fatigued with one another, they need that new player to bring a spark of positivity and a hard working mentally. I think the issue with Mouz was that they never really had that much structure or at least a deep strat book now thinking about it. The only events they performed to their best like at New York and Starseries 4 was when all their players played well, which means if one of them isn't playing well they fall apart. In my opinion I think if Mouz wants to continue on as a team they need someone who can lead better than ChrisJ, he is a great player and can call well but recently its not shown. But otherwise then I think for the players sake like Sunny specifically, they need to part ways and find another team otherwise their just wasting away their potential. I think Mouz could do with an IGL like Karrigan or MSL, otherwise I think Sunny should go to FaZe if AdreN doesn't work out. Also even though he had a great year overall in 2018, ChrisJ is washed up and I doubt will have much more success in the future.
2019-01-17 21:18
I think this too, the mentality seems like shit. Oskar seems like he rather does something else but enjoys the paycheck. Ropz is the scapegoat alot lately, undeserved imo since he and chrisJ are the only ones showing some actual passion. SuNny is a good player and should move from this team since he's not finding a footing with these guys it seems. I'd like to see him replace xSeven in Ence and hope ence can get to a top10 position, would be cool. And as or styko, i dont really understand why he got back in the first place. After being bent over and fucked in the ass like that he just crawled back and since that moment ive never seen him laugh on stream during matches. Seems like he just wanted to stay relevant but feels dogshit playing with the dudes who fucked him over.
2019-01-18 09:38
sunny should legit seriously consider going to ENCE after this major, especially if ENCE get through to the actual main qualifier of the major itself. Mouz can be a good team on paper still but this showing was really disastrous and it's on one of the biggest events in the year so I don't think that it bodes too well for the team going forward. Mouz needs a player change or two anyway, I think (obvious Finnish bias here though) that sunny is one of if not THE strongest player on mouz at the moment. So if ENCE does well he might seriously consider it, I hope. No doubt ENCE are probably showering him in offers already.
2019-01-18 09:02
But -who from ence?
2019-01-18 09:08
#73
720 | 
Poland Skrra 
maybe -xseven?
2019-01-18 09:12
I dont know , it feels like it would go like -styko and +snax
2019-01-18 09:12
#78
720 | 
Poland Skrra 
Snax playing for VP again right now so I didn't see the possibility of that happening
2019-01-18 09:18
I meant that transfer it isnt best choice to kick supportter
2019-01-18 09:33
#89
720 | 
Poland Skrra 
ahh I see. And yes, I agree with that
2019-01-18 09:54
#106
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Finland Orchard 
No way. One of the best players in ENCE playing very important role.
2019-01-18 13:04
That's a good question and tbh I'm not sure myself, I think he could maybe replace Aerial or xseveN, it feels kind of absurd to think that there might not be space for sunny in the top Finnish team at the moment.
2019-01-18 09:32
+1 -xseven +sunny
2019-01-18 09:40
SunNy could never replace Testosami in the role he is playing in ENCE.
2019-01-18 10:09
He shouldnt, they should consider to switch some roles since sunny is a big fucking upgrade
2019-01-18 10:34
Not necessarily tho. I think ENCE has the best possible lineup you can have in terms of roles and working as a unit. Testosami is mad underrated.
2019-01-18 10:42
I don’t watch enough ence to call him underrated. Yet when i DO watch ence he always sucks.. so what am i missing here
2019-01-18 10:54
He plays that very hard role NaSu did back in the day, not quite like GTR lurk but that "random factor" NaSu was the bestin the world at. He is a key link in executing strats for ENCE and he most definitely does not always suck. His aim is fucking ridiculous ( youtube.com/watch?v=xKeFd-3pKuU) and he is smart as shit.
2019-01-18 12:05
alright, ill look into it when i spec ence. Also the vid doesnt work.
2019-01-18 12:14
#101
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Ukraine ksay 
yeah xsven is very valuable i remember aleksib was defending him once and said that x7 is doing all the dirty work sometimes it's very hard for him to get into the game because of it. +i've seen him doing well in clutches even if he is not feeling his aim
2019-01-18 12:17
Thanks for clearing it up!
2019-01-18 13:02
#80
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Germany EvilBanana 
- whole Roster + BIGs roster taking BIGs spot eZ
2019-01-18 09:20
mouz Ex6TenZ mouz ropz mouz oskar mouz suNny mouz ScreaM
2019-01-18 13:20
fuck off with bots ex6 and scream, they should retire asap
2019-01-18 19:21
ScreaM & Ex6TenZ > elecbotnic
2019-01-18 20:17
we will see
2019-01-18 20:19
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