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niko < device
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Denmark liquido_o 
device top 2 lul
2019-01-18 20:01
#1
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Finland trashsports 
s1mple will be #2
2019-01-18 20:01
braindamage?
2019-01-18 20:02
#4
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Finland trashsports 
If you think that s1mple will be top 1 you should be brain damaged not me
2019-01-18 20:02
#8
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Finland trashsports 
Statistic is very close, but device is Major MVP, he won more tournaments, more MVPs, more EVPs
2019-01-18 20:04
"very close" braindamage confirmed
2019-01-18 20:05
1,34 vs 1,15 impact isn't close. The major mvp isn't enough to justify him being #1, even tarik has one. Don't forget the two lost tournaments' mvps.
2019-01-18 20:07
Hltv wouldnt consider his two lost mvps more impressive Hltv always love using stats that lead the team to victory
2019-01-18 20:17
How do you justify device being ranked better than flusha in 2015? flusha had slightly worse stats yet he was 2 ranks behind.
2019-01-18 20:24
I dont really wanna try to justify anything top 5 really could of been placed anywhere Umm two more mvps for device? I dont feel like looking through the articles though
2019-01-18 20:33
electronic has no mvps. If one thing we learned from the ranking this year it's that mvps and achievements<personal stats.
2019-01-18 20:36
They change every year
2019-01-18 20:38
#35
smooya | 
United Kingdom fal36 
mvps are not a uniform unit of measurement 4mvps is not always more impresive than 6mvps electronic had no mvps but his evp performances were more impressive than some other players' mvp or evp performances who were ranked below him
2019-01-18 20:39
Yep I agree, but they were by no means comparable to those of naf's or magisk's. With such a difference in stats, it would be a roberry not to give s1mple #1 spot.
2019-01-18 20:43
"very close" ha-ha
2019-01-18 20:08
Dumb or Baiting?
2019-01-18 20:11
#36
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Ukraine Gunsor 
dumb baiter
2019-01-18 20:39
back to 2017 coldzera didnt have major mvp but he was 1.
2019-01-18 20:52
#45
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Finland trashsports 
But he had more MVPs than everyone else
2019-01-18 20:55
Astralis was much better then FaZe in 2018
2019-01-18 20:59
#47
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Europe rEdYy 
verry close ? you are retarded or waht ? its a huge diference there omgaLUL
2019-01-18 21:00
So when tomorrow device will be anounced as #2 will u go to brainsurgeon ASAP ?
2019-01-18 20:04
#12
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Finland trashsports 
I will bet 2.000€ that device will be top 1 today
2019-01-18 20:05
nice joke, u dont have 2k to do that lul
2019-01-18 20:10
#21
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Finland trashsports 
I earn more money per month than you parents all together per 3-4 months ;)
2019-01-18 20:17
#24
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United States Jammin800k 
Let's make the bet right now I'll put $2k on s1mple top 1
2019-01-18 20:16
Nice joke
2019-01-18 20:21
Today? Braindamage
2019-01-18 20:11
#22
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Finland trashsports 
Yes, I will bet today on device top 1
2019-01-18 20:12
Gonna laugh at you tomorrow when ecovice gets number 2
2019-01-18 21:02
#49
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Finland trashsports 
I will laugh not you
2019-01-18 21:03
So will u go to brainsurgeon after device n2?
2019-01-18 23:04
#3
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Brazil bandicoot 
carried
2019-01-18 20:02
niko was by far better than device this year. You can't change my mind.
2019-01-18 20:02
true
2019-01-18 20:05
#7
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Other KyLu4k 
what a joke
2019-01-18 20:04
#13
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Chile dEaux 
device > NiKo?? HAHAHA what joke hltv.org/stats/players/compare/7592/devi..
2019-01-18 20:07
#16
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Denmark liquido_o 
braindead? you know what mean lul ?
2019-01-18 20:09
#19
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Chile dEaux 
did you read?
2019-01-18 20:11
#29
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United States Jamila 
NiKo leads by tiny margins in a lot of these and device's team won everything, y'all were dumb to think NiKo had a chance at #2
2019-01-18 20:24
#40
NiKo | 
Belgium ZxTox 
DEVICE IMPACT HHAHAHAHAH
2019-01-18 20:42
the only reason niko has these stats is because the team literally caters to his role. they depend on him to actually close out rounds, be a successful lurk. he hasn't done that all year though. failed constantly. he's been a big reason for faze's failures this year, karrigan being the #2 reason. guardian and rain clearly lost their motivation because of this bs.. device > niko in 2018, no discussion.
2019-01-18 20:15
lol
2019-01-18 20:18
#28
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Portugal queniese 
ye it's completely niko fault that they failed constantly, wtf??
2019-01-18 20:23
no i never said that? i said his role in the team has been a big reason for their failures. too much pressure on one player, they depended way too much on him alone in 2018.. their tactics often relied on him to close out rounds, other players basically used as bait.
2019-01-18 20:32
#39
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Portugal queniese 
You were right that they depended too much on him but he still delivered in most of the tournaments.
2019-01-18 20:41
#42
smooya | 
United Kingdom fal36 
every team caters for their star player so pointing that out as reasoning for device>Niko is hypocritical also how can he not be performing his role correctly when hes their highest rated player by far and the 2nd highest rated player in the world if anything his team has let him down
2019-01-18 20:48
Niko is the 2nd best player, but HLTV takes team achievements into consideration for an individual for some reason...
2019-01-18 20:40
HOW?
2019-01-18 20:40
device's roles: awper , exit fragger , eco fragger , baiter NiKo's roles : 2nd awper, IGL, entry fragger , lurker, refragger liquipedia is lier
2019-01-18 20:54
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