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kennyS | 
Greenland kennyS_is_the_best_AWPer 
Who has the most powerful army/military forces ? And why not try to invade the 2 others ?
2019-01-19 22:33
xdddddddd wtf
2019-01-19 22:33
#4
Sweden Yawn1 
xDDDD
2019-01-19 22:35
xDDDDDD
2019-01-19 22:40
nordic gang
2019-01-20 14:43
#179
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Sweden DrakenIsHot 
xddddd
2019-01-21 12:11
Maybe make an alliance with Norway to invade Sweden ? Flags are similar it would be easy, just split Sweden in two after the invasion and Bigger Finland, Bigger Norway, EZ no ?
2019-01-19 22:36
idk men) sweden and finland have close relations and i believe their goverments have an unwritten deal of cooperation in the matter of defense. also we have some equipment from sweden in our army
2019-01-19 22:38
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2019-01-19 22:39
XD
2019-01-19 22:40
#46
s1mple | 
United Kingdom Twinaye 
russia has some unwritten deal with finland that finland is russia
2019-01-19 22:45
+1 mongols after all and there is no such a country as Finland. Its a dream...
2019-01-19 22:48
hippity hoppity yellow teeth
2019-01-19 22:49
#55
s1mple | 
United Kingdom Twinaye 
i didnt brush them in 8 days now
2019-01-19 22:49
hippity hoppity karelia is property
2019-01-19 22:50
#69
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Other beeg 
Lmao.
2019-01-19 22:54
#118
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Russia greedaa 
its the first time i laughed this hard at hltv comment
2019-01-20 14:42
XD
2019-01-20 16:31
#115
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Finland Orchard 
What equipment? I'm a sergeant and can't recall any.
2019-01-20 14:35
idk i might be wrong, i heard that we use swedish tech in our vehicles/jets
2019-01-20 16:33
#127
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Finland Orchard 
Yes you are wrong at least for my knowledge. Last jets we bought from Sweden was mid 70's. Bandvagn 206 is the only thing I know that are from Sweden, but basically they use much more our own Sisu NA-110.
2019-01-20 16:41
Except these things are swedish: fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/CV90 And these part developed with swedes or made by swedes: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMOS en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBT_LAW So get back to "kertausharjoitus" kessu.
2019-01-20 18:13
Don't invade sweden. Must invade russia so karelia come back to finland
2019-01-20 15:09
Its ez to teik norway they have 0 defenses
2019-01-20 18:04
We swedes would gladly get invaded by Norway. We would surrender immediately, by law become norwegian hostages which means we eventually get to take part of that oil money and get rid of the Swedish politicians. Sounds good to me.
2019-01-21 17:03
yeah just invade each other why not Pepega
2019-01-19 22:34
#3
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Brazil kaiknux 
i heard sweden
2019-01-19 22:34
#5
rain | 
Norway Alexed 
Iceland logic
2019-01-19 22:35
Sweden is known for their saab gripen, top technology sweden will fuck them up
2019-01-19 22:35
yeah those missiles .. RBS15 or something, are to god damn powerful, for anyone to invade sweden!
2019-01-19 22:48
French Rafale best plane don't @
2019-01-19 23:52
+1
2019-01-20 11:43
#168
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Norway PeteZz 
Ez for our F-35 JSF
2019-01-21 04:20
because you will never be able to make your own jetfighters. swedish brain > norway shit
2019-01-21 16:58
Why would we invade one another, we are brethren.
2019-01-19 22:35
#47
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Europe porrasm 
except in hockey season
2019-01-19 22:45
+1 btw congrattz2ence EZ4ENCE
2019-01-19 23:36
#84
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Europe porrasm 
ty ty finally a finnish team triumphs, been waiting for this for a long time
2019-01-19 23:41
Pretty sure Finland has the strongest military. Not 100% sure though. No real reason to invade either one tbh.
2019-01-19 22:35
wtf u inbreds gonna do vs jas 39 gripen
2019-01-19 22:38
#28
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Sweden ConaN007 
KEK
2019-01-19 22:40
The fuck do you think people do to planes in a war? Shoot down as many as possible))
2019-01-19 22:40
wtf did the soviets do with 3000 planes? oh, nothing, sweden wouldnt never attack finland and the opposite. norway and finland also have fighter jets, not sure what is norways but we have hornets
2019-01-19 22:41
#45
Aleksib | 
Finland vadeb 
Gripem, you mean the shit metal can what was destroyed by a fucking pigeon XDD LUL
2019-01-19 22:44
What jet engine can survive a full size pigeon?
2019-01-21 17:08
I agree with you, I know some guy from Finland and they have a lot of special training in the army.
2019-01-19 22:42
#86
Finland MMAd 
xDDD lold
2019-01-19 23:45
#89
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Denmark dR_JaCkPoT 
... which would be completely without chance against your only threat, Russia. inb4 bUt whAt aBouT wiNtEr wAr?? that's 1940 mate, we're in 2019 now.
2019-01-19 23:53
Technically correct. If Russia decided to use their full military strength, they would beat us. If they decided to use nukes, we'd capitulate even faster. Nice strawman on the winter war argument. I don't think Putin has purged any military generals, etc. And the Russian army has plenty of guns to give to each soldier, unlike in the winter war, where many soldiers often shared 1 rifle. Fucking moronic to even bring it up.
2019-01-20 00:10
#94
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Denmark dR_JaCkPoT 
sry it was bait...... i think its cool you have an army, cool but not very useful imo.... no disrespect.
2019-01-20 00:32
Sorry on my behalf as well. Been a long day and I’m tired as fuck so I lashed out a bit. I don’t know what other Finns think, but personally I’d rather die than see Finland lose it’s independence. So I would be fine with fighting a hopeless war. I assume many others aren’t that extreme though. Again, sorry for coming off a bit too aggressive.
2019-01-20 00:49
damn skapparit must've loved you in the army
2019-01-21 16:03
Ironically it was the complete opposite. I had an "attitude problem".
2019-01-21 17:50
This is true :D and while i was in the army i asked a captain liutenant this question and he said, "we would lose yes, but the goal is to be able to do enough damage so that it wouldnt be worth it for them"
2019-01-20 11:52
#121
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Finland Orchard 
The main task of the Finnish Defense Forces is domestic defense against Russia. The Finnish Defense Forces is the world's best and most qualified force to this task. We have been designed and practiced throughout the existence of an independent Finland and equipped for one task: defense of our fatherland on our own ground against the Russian armed forces. We have all the doctrines and the whole battle technique is based on being as effective as possible against the doctrines and combat techniques of the Russian armed forces. We do a very detailed simulations and practice scenarios in the staffs, because we know who is attacking, what kind of equipment is attacking, what are the protocols of the opponent and what is the opponent's doctrine, basic combat methods, etc. The Finnish Defense Forces are backed up in Finnish society during the peace and especially in a crisis, so deeply envied in the world (for example, there is four times a year the National Defense Academy's Defense Courses fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maanpuolustuskurss..) In general, the crisis resilience of Finnish society is top notch world-class. The Finnish Defense Forces have not been designed and built to carry out wars in third world countries at long service links, unlike the US armed forces, for example. In Europe, the vast majority of the armed forces are specifically designed for crisis management and forcing peace in the developing world, which is why their armed forces are relatively small-sized professional armies very lightly equipped, because everything must be air-transported. Such a crisis management arm doesn't work in conventional (traditional) warfare where two or more developed states measure one another. For example, the fact that the Karelia Artillery Regimen of the Finnish Defense Forces during the war period is by far the strongest in firepower, most modern and performance-driven group in Europe. A similar system is not really found anywhere else in Europe. Not even from "professional armies" of some countries. Furthermore, military training provided by the Finnish Defense Forces should not be neglected at all. In Finland, the infantry weapon army units even shoot highly sophisticated and demanding combat shots and the same military units also consume considerably more ammunition during training than most professional armies (!!). Whenever Finnish reservists and conscripts are abroad, the Finns get a lot of praise and comments on how "no one would believe that this is a military conscript". A good example of this was in 2016 in the Cold Response exercise in Norway, where the Finnish Mechanized Military Battalion, assembled under the Swedish Brigade. In the delaying battle they caused very large losses to the Norwegian mechanized Telemark battalion, who are professionals-soldiers having experience in Afghanistan and Iraq. They are also specialized in arctic combat. Also the Finnish Air Force is the sharpest in the world in the fight against airplane fighters (air-to-air combat), and in several NATO exercises, the Finnish Air Force departments have achieved quite incredible power relations, for example, in the Frisian Flag 2013 exercise, the Finnish 6 Hornet flight department flew nine Naval Air Force aircraft against the departments, dropping 100 "enemy" machines during training and only losing 6 themselves. In our culture we are for some reason self-defeating, even though there is no reason for it. There really isn't reason for it in this regard.
2019-01-20 15:06
Not quite! youtube.com/watch?v=iCIu_OjNFnk Binkov is EXCELLENT at providing accurate numbers!
2019-01-20 11:41
Still can't believe people link to this video. 25 000 Finnish reservists? We get that amount of new conscripts each year. In the worst case scenario, we have 900 000 trained reservists ready to fight. How is Sweden going to beat us when they're massively outnumbered? (Maybe if we attacked, since our army is made for defense, not offense. But if Sweden attacked us, I don't see how they would have a chance.
2019-01-20 12:17
I don't see whee you are getting that information, the numbers of troops are readily available
2019-01-20 17:52
Indeed they are. That's why I'm laughing at the fact that someone claims that we have 25 000 trained reservists, when the facts and information show otherwise.
2019-01-20 17:54
You have 27k reservists a year and the length of service is 12 months. Meaning at any time you have 27k reservists. I think you're misunderstanding what that means
2019-01-20 17:57
So we get 27k new reservists each year, but somehow the amount of reservists stays the same, despite getting an additional 27k each year. Makes sense.
2019-01-20 18:00
Yes, because the conscription ends for that 27k annually. You gain 27k and lose the last 27k. On average. You realize it's impossible to maintain a military force exponentially. Finland isn't the US, it doesn't spend nearly as much on its military
2019-01-20 18:03
How do we "lose" them? They are transferred to the reserve once they've completed their army service. They don't die, and they keep their military training.
2019-01-20 18:06
Military training is not infinite. If you are out of training, you are not military trained and not considered capable. There is also the issue of arming them, which is why he mentions old, outdated weapons in stockpile.
2019-01-20 18:25
Maybe that's how it works in the U.S then. Here, if you went to the army at pretty much any point, you're considered military trained, and a part of the reserve. And while the old weapons part is true, we obviously wouldn't mobilize the full 900 000. We could effectively mobilize roughly 200 000 men. The rest of the 700 000 would be brought in to replace dead men, so it's not like we have to arm 900 000, which I admit, we can't do.
2019-01-20 18:30
No that is just how it works period. Being out of training means you are combat ineffective. Think of it this way: is someone who was trained in IT in 1998 and has done no training since still considered a good IT representative? Obviously that is extreme, but even a single year of inactivity means they are at risk. This is life and death, you cannot mobilize someone who might be ineffective. They WILL die.
2019-01-20 20:02
Well I guess a bunch of people will die then, because that is just how it works here. If war broke out right now, all of the reservists would be told to prepare to leave to the front, and the 200 000 troops would be mobilized. People who went to civil service will be put into quick training, to prepare them as well, and people who were diagnosed as unfit for the army will be re-examined. This was and is taught to us in the army, so I don't really know what else to tell you.
2019-01-20 20:12
Yes, the reserve of 27k would be immediately mobilized. The rest would be given expedited training, which is mentioned in the video. Sweden would also give expedited training.
2019-01-20 20:28
No, roughly 200 000. Unless you're claiming that our superiors are lying to us for some arbitrary reason?
2019-01-20 20:29
I mean don't get me wrong, the Finns have had amazing success and punched WELL above their weight in the past. Sure you lost the Winter War but you weren't rolled over. It's just based on numbers and estimates. It isn't like the Swedes take any major urban area. They couldn't do it.
2019-01-20 20:03
#165
NEO | 
Norway Skuolfi 
Considering how well they held out against the Russians I would say so.
2019-01-20 20:41
#10
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Finland Vkims 
Finland ofc
2019-01-19 22:36
#14
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Finland Vkims 
But there is no point to invade sweden, there is too many muslims
2019-01-19 22:37
and gay
2019-01-19 22:50
#135
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Ecuador bruhh 
+1
2019-01-20 18:02
we have rain and its all what matters
2019-01-19 22:36
#16
BDSM | 
Europe AneleClap 
You have oil and fish as well :)
2019-01-19 22:38
but rain mostly
2019-01-19 22:38
civ 5 +10 oil +3 fish +5 production "WoRlD cOngReSs" "embargo Norway"
2019-01-19 22:50
+9000 rain
2019-01-19 22:51
rain best
2019-01-20 00:52
+1
2019-01-20 12:12
#12
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Norway mrhagen3 
2019-01-19 22:36
finland lets invade sweden together?
2019-01-19 22:38
Sweden is trapped in between us, a war that swedes can't win
2019-01-19 22:39
I dont want animals to my country
2019-01-19 22:57
#180
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Sweden DrakenIsHot 
Bro u wouldnt have a chance
2019-01-21 12:12
#18
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Finland Hallokola 
Wtf i don't want to invade my brothers?!
2019-01-19 22:38
If all 3 were one country the world wouldnt be able to handle its beauty in nature
2019-01-19 22:39
#109
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Finland Tertzi 
+1 We would have it all. Fjords, mountains and whales n shit, beautiful wintertime Lapland, all our lakes and other bodies of water. Shit would be insane.
2019-01-20 11:56
#154
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Denmark Twick_ 
What about me :(
2019-01-20 20:15
#169
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Norway PeteZz 
Sure, We need your corn.
2019-01-21 04:21
#175
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Denmark Twick_ 
Okay :(
2019-01-21 11:46
#185
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Norway PeteZz 
<3
2019-01-21 13:27
Finland has ENCE Sweden has better military
2019-01-19 22:39
#30
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Sweden ConaN007 
Ez4Ence?
2019-01-19 22:41
Ez4JW
2019-01-19 22:41
so mad right now
2019-01-19 22:52
sorry <3
2019-01-19 22:52
Whyyyy
2019-01-19 22:58
Finland had a great defense in WW2 but dont know about now, nor their offense. Besides, the DK special forces are top 2 in the world and thats a fact not my opinion Edit: also their regular soldier is better trained than the UN soldiers and the US soldier
2019-01-19 22:40
lol.... the whole conscript of finnish military service is about how to defend this country, not how to attack.
2019-01-19 22:42
Oh yes, the famous Danish special ops. lul
2019-01-19 22:44
We definitely have better defense now than in WWII. Hell, our army is called the "Finnish defence forces". The whole plan is to have such a strong defense that attacking us would be far too costly. Our offense is fucking garbage though.
2019-01-19 22:44
#49
s1mple | 
United Kingdom Twinaye 
dk top 2? lol thats a nice try 1 sas 2 seals
2019-01-19 22:47
Lol not, sas as an org. is better than the danish "frømandskorps" but as far as individual soldier the danes out shine them by far, besides I think Spetnaz is higher quality soldiers than sas aswell
2019-01-19 22:51
#67
s1mple | 
United Kingdom Twinaye 
Dont wanna to argue about something i dont know (in terms of ddk spec forces), do you have any documentaries i can watch or something? in english preferably.
2019-01-19 22:53
The two I have seen where german, sorry no english, and it was at school and I dont have access to them anymore (just checked), sorry
2019-01-19 22:55
I recall a video that ranked the special forces around the world with TONS of awesome info and stuff. I'll see if I can find it. IIRC it went 1. Seals 2. Spetsnaz 3. SAS 4. Israeli Special Forces 5. German KSK I am PRETTY positive, the video is VERY interesting. Hope I can find it again
2019-01-20 11:45
lets just say, all of the special forces pretty much get the job done. can always count on seals and sas
2019-01-20 14:33
Oh yeah certainly. I mean they're both especially highly trained and all. The UK has a really big military so it's only natural they have a strong special forces. Note that China likely has a top 5 special forces but they're so closed off as their dictatorship that their special forces officially doesn't exist
2019-01-20 17:55
Couple special ops doesnt win the war even if they are ranked 1st or 10th. 85% of the men losses are done by the cannons, mortars etc.
2019-01-19 23:05
I am aware, I'm not saying that the danes stand a chance against a real army, but seing as the Scandinavian armies are all super small, then the fact that the danish soldiers are better might mean the difference, especially if they are on the defensive. But hey, the heck do I know, I'm not a generel
2019-01-19 23:40
Most of nordic countries got small army due small population and quite safe spot on worldmap. But if you compare numbers. Active personel Swe 24k. Fin 34k Nor 23k. Den 13k Reserve personel Swe 35k. Fin 900k Nor 45k. Den 64k All got updated army. Norway stronges navy Finland easily the strongest artillery atm one of the largest in eu. Air forces are pretty equal but norway/sweden got slight advantage. (Finland is updating its hornets currently.) Reminder also Finland is most prepared due the fact it has long border with Russia.
2019-01-20 11:44
We got around 20k active lol... 13k where on earth you pulling ur numbers... And norway strongest navy? lul we literally right there too... and didnt they just lose one bcus they cant sail properly xD? and their frigates are like 5-10 years older than ours.
2019-01-21 12:20
Only thing sweden got more of than denmark is airplanes and tanks and thats it... Ofc sweden cud pull out an even bigger army if they truly wanted to because of the population but yeah. And yes norway got more ships but i doubt a minesweeper or a tiny little corvette is going to destroy a frigate... norway got 4 frigates, denmark 9... rest is irrelevant because a minesweeper or patrol boat or the royal yatch lol wont do much. xD And if those f35 that we buy are as good as they shud be they prob wud beat gripen since gripen dont have stealth.
2019-01-21 12:32
LOL every country says their special forces are the best in the world xD
2019-01-20 00:56
#116
NAF | 
Slovakia t4gg3d 
The worldwide, famous danish special ops Oh, how could I forgot about them..
2019-01-20 14:38
Wow. Are all of those 10 soldiers good?
2019-01-20 20:34
#35
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United States Trump2020KAG 
u guys can sandwich Sweden
2019-01-19 22:42
swedes nobody wants to attack this! youtube.com/watch?v=QBhOzRvkERc
2019-01-19 22:42
#50
Norway Bjvf 
Ayyyy xD
2019-01-19 22:47
Pretty good strategy tbh. Make enemy troops projectile vomit, and traumatized for the rest of their lives.
2019-01-19 22:49
Carl Gustav best Gustav ftw
2019-01-19 22:43
Sweden is being invaded, isn't it?
2019-01-19 22:43
#51
Norway Bjvf 
Shhh don't tell them! We norwegians need to build a wall real soon
2019-01-19 22:48
NT TRUMP
2019-01-19 22:43
Finland has the most impressive modern war history on this planet.
2019-01-19 22:44
#171
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Finland G0Dteukkab 
yes!
2019-01-21 04:33
seems legit
2019-01-19 22:46
#60
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Iceland _natas_ 
Sweden, but Swedens army is still shitty!
2019-01-19 22:51
#70
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Russia peia 
wtf iceland, you dont even have an army
2019-01-19 22:54
#78
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Iceland _natas_ 
Hence why i said, Sweden not Iceland!
2019-01-19 23:32
#63
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Norway mrhagen3 
Norway and Finland can agree, lets get Sweden!
2019-01-19 22:52
Wouldn't mind more land, but would have to go full on Generalplan Ost on the population))
2019-01-19 22:57
#90
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Norway mrhagen3 
We have to go full Winter War like we did against the russians
2019-01-19 23:54
#79
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Iceland _natas_ 
20.000 Tesla cars and 2000 snipers on reindeers rolling in over the borders!
2019-01-19 23:33
We can invade Sweden by sending a fax
2019-01-19 22:59
#81
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Finland Acoz 
Sweden has most equipment but noone to use them x) would be ez clap for finland
2019-01-19 23:36
#87
Finland MMAd 
Norway can buy Sweden & Finland.
2019-01-19 23:49
One has a direct border with one of the most aggressive nations on earth and the other two are surrounded by water and Denmark.
2019-01-19 23:55
If it was an all out war with all 3, it'd be utter stalemate across the board. If Sweden took on either though they would likely win. VERY marginally though
2019-01-20 11:48
#163
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Finland Acoz 
Sweden would not stand a chance they have like 30k trained soldier LMAO
2019-01-20 20:41
Sweden would likely win.
2019-01-21 04:15
#173
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Finland Acoz 
whatever you say
2019-01-21 08:48
haha you have no clue
2019-01-21 12:27
We would not attack each other, but we would help to defend against outside attackers though. We like to make jokes about each other, but if it gets real I think that most people in our countries would be on the same side.
2019-01-19 23:57
#172
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Finland G0Dteukkab 
+1
2019-01-21 04:34
#96
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Dominican Republic SantoDomingo 
Norwsy
2019-01-20 00:51
#100
TACO | 
Finland sunnahh 
Finland, sweden and norway shouldnt fight each other we should destroy denmark
2019-01-20 11:38
+1
2019-01-20 11:56
#122
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Norway CheNaLii 
+1
2019-01-20 15:05
+1
2019-01-20 18:25
Hypothetical war is one of my favorite topics! I found this youtube channel to be extremely reliable in providing very accurate information about the military and very reasonable predictions of outcomes. This is Norway vs Sweden! No Finland, but it's close! youtube.com/watch?v=ns8WURiW9jE&vl=en Spoiler: Extremely minor victory for Sweden This is Finland vs Sweden no Norway: youtube.com/watch?v=iCIu_OjNFnk Spoiler: Also a Swedish marginal victory. So in conclusion, Sweden is more logically the victor in the scenario, but it's SUPER close, and fighting both at the same time is probably impossible. In all likelihood, it'd be an utter stalemate across the board.
2019-01-20 11:41
Finland will probably never invade anyone
2019-01-20 11:54
neither will sweden since they always stay neutral every ww
2019-01-20 11:56
neutral? more like double agency selling crucial materials to germans and helping the allies with their informations.
2019-01-20 18:29
#117
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Sweden Trkmag 
0/8
2019-01-20 14:40
all 3 weak af turkey ez 1v3 them lmao
2019-01-20 14:54
The moment we would start attacking each other Russia would plan an invasion when we were at our weakest. It's basically just handing all our countries over to Russia.
2019-01-20 16:36
#128
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Norway Barter6 
All I know is it's definitely not Norway who has the best millitary out of them. We do however, sleep in USA's bed from time to time. And a bunch of other countries. The only country crazy enough to attack us is Russia, but even Putin is not that wild.
2019-01-20 16:44
none of the mentioned 3 countries couldnt invade eachother.
2019-01-20 18:28
#146
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Norway Barter6 
What are you trying to say? Try and build that sentence one more time.
2019-01-20 18:37
none of the 3 mentioned countries (finland norway sweden) could not invade eachother. idk why is this hard for you to understand :D LUL
2019-01-20 19:04
#149
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Norway Barter6 
The way you are building your sentence is still a mess bud. "LUL" Try again.
2019-01-20 19:09
#150
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Finland Orchard 
Maybe he has some oil in his eyes.
2019-01-20 19:09
#138
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Denmark aimingyou 
Wtf is this question even?
2019-01-20 18:06
Britain: 746 Royal Marines 4 Royal Navy warships Iceland: 60 police officers 300 untrained reservists
2019-01-20 18:41
Finland
2019-01-20 20:32
Iceland cause NA help us
2019-01-20 20:40
This whole thread is just... silly.
2019-01-20 20:49
sweden would beat norway because they have pewdiepie's who could just make plans with his grandfather invade norway and take their oil. but in the end finland would win cause the fuck everyone up. #ez4ence #ez4winland
2019-01-21 04:29
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