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device deserved to be #1.
SmithZz | 
Belgium Chuckyyyyy 
Device has WAYYY more events won than s1mple. He won 10 tier 1 events in 2018 while s1mple only won ESL One Cologne and BLAST. ESL One Cologne was deserved but BLAST was the only event where they had a chance to win because they have a shit bo1 format. Ofc HLTV decided to count small events like Zotac etc because they knew that if they only show 2 events won by s1mple, people were gonna cry even more. Na'Vi is built around s1mple. He wants a gun ? He gets it. He says to his team to push for him and get the easy refrags ? They will do it. Don't tell me that even with the high skill he has, he would have been top 1 if his team wasn't playing for him. The real eco-fragger here isn't device but s1mple. In the other hand, device has insane stats at every events he played ( except the 2 first months because of his illness ) and his team isn't even build around him. Always playing like a god, even in the important matches ( unlike s1mple who had the lowest ADR vs Astralis in the major finals ). Tell me how a player from a team that only won 1 relevant event and never wins when Astralis is playing got that #1 spot. If the list is only about the stats, just put ZywOo and Xantares in there. Worst top 20 ever.
2019-01-21 00:08
cry is free
2019-01-21 00:09
#54
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Morocco Rheat744 
+11111111111111111111111111
2019-01-21 00:26
+1
2019-01-22 06:55
thats why he have the most entry frags at big events in 2018?
2019-01-21 00:10
Completely missed the point
2019-01-21 00:12
He says to his team to push for him and get the easy refrags ? They will do it.
2019-01-21 00:13
Device yes.
2019-01-21 12:13
#60
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
how much?
2019-01-21 00:28
Yes he did deserve 1 but not as much as simple
2019-01-22 02:01
Opening kills do not mean entry frags, it just means the first kill.
2019-01-21 00:32
and what is entry frag then if its not first kill?
2019-01-21 09:48
Well it's not an entry frag if you as a T-side hold a defensive angle in a default and CT starts pushing.
2019-01-21 09:55
And why the fuck would anyone do that?
2019-01-21 09:59
It's pretty common in CS:GO for CT-side to push on eco rounds to gain knowledge about enemy whereabouts.
2019-01-21 10:05
#142
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Denmark RandomDane 
Its still an entry.
2019-01-21 21:27
Then it’s an opening kill
2019-01-21 22:10
#156
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Denmark RandomDane 
Its the same thing
2019-01-21 22:51
NA brain strikes again
2019-01-22 03:21
There is nothing wrong with what I said. I could hold an angle at T-Spawn and count as an entry frag?
2019-01-22 03:22
#3
chrisJ | 
Netherlands Marrix 
top 20 players, not teams
2019-01-21 00:10
Still, it makes no sense that a player from a team that didn't win anything gets the top 1 spot
2019-01-21 00:12
It does
2019-01-21 00:12
For fanboys, sure. If you take a look at it objectively, it makes no srnse
2019-01-21 00:13
Im not a fanboy. His rating is way higher and he is leading all the leaderboards. Its not a team ranking. The only thing device is better in, is that he has more mvps. Thats all and not enough to compensate the rest
2019-01-21 00:14
He. Is. A. Better. Player.
2019-01-21 00:30
Never said the opposite, but device deserved it more.
2019-01-21 00:30
So: S1mple is better, but dev1ce deserve to be top 1 in INDIVIDUAL comparison. LUL
2019-01-21 01:01
#114
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Estonia Mrkruvi 
+1 hahah
2019-01-21 10:40
O M E G A L U L
2019-01-21 21:20
#17
smooya | 
United Kingdom fal36 
but navi did win they were the 2nd most successful team in 2018
2019-01-21 00:14
Liquid was better this year.
2019-01-21 00:14
#34
smooya | 
United Kingdom fal36 
u go on about tournament wins then you name a team that didnt win any big events and say that they were better than a team with 3 big event trophies liquid were less successful than faze in 2018 so nt
2019-01-21 00:18
+1 fucking destroyed
2019-01-21 00:30
Rekted
2019-01-21 21:21
#173
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United Kingdom alcaz4r 
+1 chuckyyyyy is the worst user
2019-01-22 02:39
#20
chrisJ | 
Netherlands Marrix 
s1mple's numbers speak for themselves and leave no room for debate as to who deserved to sit at the top of the ranking. He was by far the highest-rated player of 2018 at Big Events (1.34), standing out in practically every way and on both sides, averaging the best T-side rating (1.34) and the second-best CT-side rating (1.33). The Ukrainian prodigy was ranked first for frags (0.87 kills per round), damage (87.4) and KDD (+1107), and had the third-lowest deaths per round ratio (0.59). He was simultaneously the best at opening up rounds, boasting the highest opening kills per round ratio at 0.14 and the highest opening duel success at 64.9%, and the second-best at closing them when left alone, racking up 75 clutches, only two fewer than Andreas "Xyp9x" Højsleth. s1mple had no match in terms of consistency, however you look at it: round-to-round (76.0% KAST), map-to-map (86.5% of maps with above-average ratings) and event-to-event (1.19+ ratings at every tournament).
2019-01-21 00:15
#77
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United States 0123Rhm 
+1000
2019-01-21 00:43
#42
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United States fatburger 
It does. They did well this year.
2019-01-21 00:21
"didnt win anything" lmao ahhaha
2019-01-21 00:22
#4
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Japan PKcrash 
people who have smithzzz as their favorite shouldn't be judging who is top 1
2019-01-21 00:11
Says the mouz fan
2019-01-21 00:12
mouz > garbage > SmithZz
2019-01-21 00:13
No major for mouz while SmithZz won 1. But nt
2019-01-21 00:16
Past =/= now
2019-01-21 00:16
I don't even know why the fact that i'm fan of SmithZz matters. Sorry for not being a gloryhunter like 99% of HLTV
2019-01-21 00:19
who is bothZz in CS:GO???
2019-01-21 00:22
It just shows that you don't know what a good player is
2019-01-21 21:22
But i know what a nice person is
2019-01-21 21:22
Do you consider my comment as rude?
2019-01-21 22:08
Yes.
2019-01-21 22:11
It's not meant to be rude. And not the topic you're right. Still: simple #1
2019-01-21 22:30
#8
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Europe KrepaN 
agahahahahahahahahahahaha
2019-01-21 00:12
WORST TOP 20 PLACEMENTS OF ALL TIME Flusha #2 2014 - biggest robbery of all time, should've been #1. Pasha #3 2014 - should be #7 at best. Elige #12 2017 - waaay to high, maybe 19 - 18. Simple #1 2018 - should've been #0, nobody is even close to how good he is
2019-01-21 00:13
In 2018 they have rating 2.0, which provides way more accurate ratings and therefore a more accurate top20.
2019-01-21 12:34
Flusha #2 2014 - Not "biggest robbery", fnatic didnt win a major and NIP did, flusha deserved #1, but it wasnt "biggest robbery" Pasha #3 2014 - again, major mvp counts, but pasha shouldve have been 3rd, maybe 5th EliGe deserved 12 lmao - hltv.org/stats/players/compare/8738/EliG.. hltv.org/stats/players/compare/8738/EliG..
2019-01-21 22:15
I know big events count for more but Elige only has 67 maps and if you look at how well he performed across all lans his numbers aren't as impressive. Also very few achievements at big events and only played at one major. I still don't see how he could be so high up, he arguably had a better year last year and got a lower place.
2019-01-22 00:57
so tell me why was krimz above twistZz this year similar situation twistZz played way more maps, had 0.3 worse rating k0nfig and xyp played more maps, but elige had 0.4 and 0.7 better ratings
2019-01-22 01:08
honestly i thought twistzz should've been higher. i guess the way i judge a players performance is different to hltv.
2019-01-22 03:14
I agree with u that flusha #1, i dont think it was the biggest robbery but it was definately a robbery (id say fer making 3 with 1 mvp out of 8 events is pretty bad too) i agree that pasha wasnt 3rd, but major mvp + else should put him at least at 5 this whole elige hate idk where its coming from, he deserved #12, he was better than everyone ranked below him, and liquid made two big event grand finals that year too, it wasnt like they were dog shit or something
2019-01-22 06:45
People still crying about tournament wins lol
2019-01-21 00:13
It matters.
2019-01-21 00:13
s1mple is the best now just stfu and cry dev2ce fan gay
2019-01-21 10:17
So.. leta take an example, in Astralis there would be a player/IGL like Zeus instead of gla1ve, they are the best team, all play good, but Zeus never, always rating under 1, but still winning events and you say, he should be in top 20?
2019-01-21 10:45
#15
shox | 
Norway ozoyo333 
retard alert
2019-01-21 00:13
s1mple >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>^2000000000000 Device.
2019-01-21 00:16
#23
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Brazil goatzera 
C R Y I S F R E E
2019-01-21 00:16
#24
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Turkey w0rthy 
I didn't see any device flick or aggression with awp. Did u? Just holding angles and #1 nt
2019-01-21 00:16
His playstyle is why Astralis dominated this year.
2019-01-21 00:28
butthurt little kid, get a sleep and wake up with something relevant
2019-01-21 00:40
#112
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Vietnam ponmemes 
no it wasn’t. it was about astralis’ inhuman teamwork that got them dominating everyone, not because device plays passively
2019-01-21 10:37
cry into my bucket \____/
2019-01-21 00:16
it's too small
2019-01-21 09:57
#102
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France J0riS_ 
Edit: tried To make a bigger bucket doesn't work
2019-01-21 10:12
#127
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China Slasher8888 
Edit: nvm tried to help him but failed as well
2019-01-21 12:41
#27
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Russia lefy 
"Na'Vi is built around s1mple. He wants a gun ? He gets it" Have you ever seen how navi playing ? zeus has an ak but s1mple only p250 :\
2019-01-21 00:17
That happend once, what about the other times ? I usually saw Zeus or Edward dropping for s1mple and they end up with a cz or dealge
2019-01-21 00:18
#38
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Russia lefy 
yes, it's has place to be but it usually works btw, i'm not fan of s1mple but he was better than all in this year
2019-01-21 00:19
#51
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World Damon1174 
youhave to be joking fucking MEMES are made out of the fact that Zeus/Edward always get the guns and s1mple/elec play with pistols. No, if s1mple "wants a gun" he does not get it, he buys like every other player on every other team.
2019-01-21 00:25
"That happened once" plastic fan
2019-01-21 00:31
#28
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Germany n3on_ 
dev2ce
2019-01-21 00:16
#29
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Sweden Nokkeri 
Stopped reading at " Na'Vi is built around s1mple. He wants a gun ? He gets it " More often than not, when having smth like 4 aks and 1 deagle, he is the player on a deagle.
2019-01-21 00:17
He's a shitty troll, no need to feed him and give actual counter-arguments. Literally the entirety of 2018 was filled with posts (with screenshots) about how Zeus had an AK when S1mple eco'd, but these braindead mongs don't pay attention during the year: they just come out at the end of it to chase glory for the player they prefer and attentionwhore. Let 'em mull in their miserable lives.
2019-01-21 00:19
We don't watch the same games i guess
2019-01-21 00:20
#52
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World Damon1174 
I dont think you're watching any of the games tbh lol
2019-01-21 00:25
You're retarded and that's why I hate you.
2019-01-21 10:03
no
2019-01-21 00:17
If you're looking for a list with players with the most accomplishments, one already exists. It's called the team rankings, and you'll find device in the #1 team. The only way to objectively rank the top 20 players is through numerical statistics, and unfortunately these stats can be inflated artificially. People care too much about the individual #20 list, after all this is a team game.
2019-01-21 00:17
#78
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Australia Ohnorepo 
It's far harder to inflate those numbers artificially in 2.0 though. The older rating system sure, but these days they look at a far more detailed list of statistics to get their results.
2019-01-21 00:44
Nah, S1mple deserved it.
2019-01-21 00:17
+1
2019-01-21 00:22
#37
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Brazil kaiknux 
S1mple deserved it. Astralis deserved each event win but It is what it is
2019-01-21 00:19
I agree, if only stats matter than f'ing give the top 1 to Xantares or Zywoo. They put out even better numbers than p1mple. HLTV is insane.
2019-01-21 00:19
Also Gla1ve so low? Really?
2019-01-21 00:20
Exactly, HLTV's community is full of s1mple fanboys, they're blind af
2019-01-21 00:21
#48
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United States fatburger 
Fan of Teams: Astralis
2019-01-21 00:23
"Na'Vi is built around s1mple. He wants a gun ? He gets it." ya thats what navi are famously criticized for, they just always give s1mple the gun over zeus and edward, there are no examples of zeus and edward having guns over s1mple. Have you watched a navi game this year?
2019-01-21 00:21
"Regarding s1mple getting the top spot, I have to be honest, I feel like he definitely was a better individual than me and I respect him so much. I'm really happy that he won, and I'm not just saying this to do the PR, but I feel like he really deserved it, he had a crazy year and he was the best in my eyes, as well." -device 2019
2019-01-21 00:24
Lmao what did you want him to say, he wasn't going to cry because he got #2
2019-01-21 00:26
#50
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United States fatburger 
What? S1mple gets the guns? No, he is always the one usually with a deagle or something similar.
2019-01-21 00:24
this is based on individual perf. so stfu and dont forget that cry is freeeeeeee
2019-01-21 00:26
Then put ZywOo top 1, it's simple
2019-01-21 00:26
#59
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United States Shadow272 
Zywoo rating at BIG EVENTS on 2018: Error 404, not found
2019-01-21 00:28
Zywoo is rocking only few months, he has a chance at the end of 2019, and dont forget that cry is free.
2019-01-21 00:28
#63
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United States fatburger 
tier1 cs =/= tier3 cs. Think about your arguments
2019-01-21 00:28
#57
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United States Shadow272 
Why did u mention zotac Wtf
2019-01-21 00:27
To give an example? What's the problem
2019-01-21 00:29
#58
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United States dusq 
god i read this and your replies and youre actually fucking retarded
2019-01-21 00:27
#65
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Canada LiquidTop1 
no
2019-01-21 00:29
#71
f0rest | 
Belgium Qker 
"Na'Vi is built around s1mple. He wants a gun ? He gets it. He says to his team to push for him and get the easy refrags ? They will do it. " Funny part is that most of the times s1mple drops for his teamates and goes deag when they need it x') Bias is real. Second funny part, he has shitload of entries in his team while device plays exactly the same way cause guess what.. awpers never go first during team rushes. Exits, savings? Same shit for device, awpers get that a lot. + rating 2.0 takes into account impact kills, exitts, bait/refrags, ect.... But you already knew that since you've read the articles and just didn't the titles don't ya? Damn your arguments are borderline retarded and biased af.
2019-01-21 00:44
#76
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Russia lefy 
+1
2019-01-21 00:40
#84
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United States dusq 
+1
2019-01-21 01:14
"Na'Vi is built around s1mple. He wants a gun ? He gets it." 8/8 nice b8
2019-01-21 00:38
#83
smooya | 
United Kingdom fal36 
+1 he clearly doesnt watch navi give the only ak to zues when they force
2019-01-21 01:08
Salty dev2ce fanboys still can't accept the truth omegalul
2019-01-21 00:39
#79
s1mple | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
Astralis didn`t win 10 tier 1 events, max 5 tier 1 And Navi won 4 events
2019-01-21 00:56
AHAHAH so FUNNY. write MORE PLZ
2019-01-21 01:02
Dev1ce has 4 incredible players behind him, ofc hes gonna win more events.
2019-01-21 01:04
#85
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Poland Showmaker 
No
2019-01-21 01:17
dev2ce
2019-01-21 09:51
#88
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Finland Karri 
retard
2019-01-21 09:52
can’t see your logic ! s1mple is much more better player!!
2019-01-21 09:54
Astralis is build around dev1ce bro, they lose 70% of the rounds when dev1ce dies first.
2019-01-21 09:57
#113
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Vietnam ponmemes 
the same can also be said for navi though
2019-01-21 10:40
Not really
2019-01-21 11:21
#119
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Vietnam ponmemes 
yes really. when you take edward and flamie’s inconsistent firepower and zeus’ non-existant firepower, the team should be built around s1mple mainly and electronic
2019-01-21 11:46
dev99ce
2019-01-21 10:01
#96
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Australia weapon_ 
S1mple made more of a impact.. all his stats in the green.. S1mple > device
2019-01-21 10:05
I don't agree with "He wants a gun ? He gets it. " Usually when there is a forcebuy and S1 has no monet, he plays deagle only while Zeus and Edward Play with AKs. It is device who always get the AWP.
2019-01-21 10:06
2019 and people still getting baited like this LMAO
2019-01-21 10:08
AHAHAHAHAH +1
2019-01-21 21:16
#140
s1mple | 
Europe Eddz 
1. make a serious thread 2. argue with people when they say u're retarded 3. notice that the whole community says that u're retarded 4. HAHAHAHA guys it was a bait, gotcha boyz. nice try u're still retarded
2019-01-21 21:25
I made a previous thread talking about s1mple being top 1 but 1/8 for the attempt
2019-01-21 21:25
#100
cyx | 
South Africa bonkaz 
It's just CS. Chill out, who cares :D
2019-01-21 10:08
Lmao. Device shit player. Have you seen him against liquid today? He is nothing without his teammates. Even smithzz is better than him, but he was sacrifying for the team unlike device. Yeah, the worst top20 because so noskill player was do high, and robbed Niko from 2nd place.
2019-01-21 10:10
Have you even watched the games? I dont even wanna respond to your arguments since they are either wrong or just completely retard. Almost all of them. Astralis was the best team in 2018, none would argue with that but S1mple definately was the best player in 2018, only idiots would argue over that.
2019-01-21 10:14
+1
2019-01-21 10:36
Cry is free.
2019-01-21 10:16
#106
TaZ | 
Poland laczyslaw 
Cry is free
2019-01-21 10:23
Idk if someone already said this or not, but if you think that astralis is not built around device as well, you just don't understand the game
2019-01-21 10:27
Carefully crafted bait
2019-01-21 10:32
xD <3
2019-01-21 21:15
Cry is free
2019-01-21 10:34
0/8 as expected from you
2019-01-21 10:35
#115
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Vietnam ponmemes 
look at astralis’ match with liquid. device didn’t even get ovet 1.0 in terns of rating meaning that if his teammates play like bots then he will aswell. s1mple doesn’t.
2019-01-21 10:43
#116
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Australia liazz 
cry man
2019-01-21 10:44
No, s1mple played much better than dev2ce in 2018. All the MVP movies from s1, he is killing everyone, as doing the impossible for win the round. And win. Device deserved top 2.
2019-01-21 12:11
Cry is free
2019-01-21 12:14
#123
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Finland Aibbee 
It's about skill and rating not about accomplishments
2019-01-21 12:14
Device didn't win any tournaments Astralis won Tournaments i tought device deserved #1 aswell but after seeing the Stats i think if S1mple wasn't #1 it was the biggest Robbery in CSGO history. and don't forget last 4-5 months of 2018 when S1mple was definetly the Best player.
2019-01-21 12:15
This is top 10 best players not top 10 best teams , sure achievments do matter but you can't deny that device's skills are no where near s1mple's and even NiKo's in that regard...
2019-01-21 12:18
#128
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China Slasher8888 
hmmm, pretty suspicious claim when you have another thread claiming s1mple to be #1 hltv.org/forums/threads/1965892/s1mple-1
2019-01-21 12:59
spotted me lol
2019-01-21 21:22
#170
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China Slasher8888 
call me Sherlock Holmes XD have a good day
2019-01-22 02:32
U2
2019-01-22 02:33
Lol did you watch any game this year? S1mple was outshining everybody (but elec maybe, thats my opinion). He is so good at this game, no matter if he won less events. Its the same for every teamgame. Look football ballon d'Or, modric no world cup but he got the trophy. Go cry now, p1mple > ecov2ce anytime anywhere
2019-01-21 13:51
#130
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Finland Cocks 
It’s a personal performance ranking not event wins. Literally how you played by yourself. And simple deserved #1.
2019-01-21 14:31
astralis wins events, device doesn't win a single match
2019-01-21 21:21
hltv.org/stats/players/11893/ZywOo?start.. HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA hltv.org/stats/players/7938/XANTARES?sta.. 1.09 rating HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
2019-01-21 21:24
Why you crying? Just admit the fact s1mple top 1, that's it.
2019-01-21 21:28
hltv.org/stats/players/compare/7998/s1mp.. LOLOLOLOLOLOL SO EASY FOR S1mple
2019-01-21 21:31
7/8
2019-01-21 21:39
Ty
2019-01-22 00:53
Who cares about shit stats? Money matters or gtfo
2019-01-21 22:11
True
2019-01-22 01:11
Ranking is awarding players for their overall performance through the year and not team achievements /close
2019-01-21 22:17
#153
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Hungary Bonte 
zywoo had 0 maps against top10 in 2018, xantares played like 3 big events, and he really underperformed. This topic needs no discussion, everyone knows that simple was by far better /closed
2019-01-21 22:31
this is terrible lol. You said device has way better stats than s1mple then continue to blame that the list is only about stats. Go back to school kid.
2019-01-21 22:35
#155
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Brazil baldok1 
dude, just take a look at the stats... are you dumb?
2019-01-21 22:47
Chucky this bait is on another new level lol so many ppl baited
2019-01-22 00:56
People just had to visit my profile and see my last threads to understand that my top 1 pick is s1mple lmao.
2019-01-22 01:10
Ikr lol, i didnt check it haha i only knew u couldnt be that braindead to think dev > s1
2019-01-22 02:00
#160
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United States SweatyBawlz 
>S1mple has the most entry frags on the team >On force buys, zeus & edward have the ak while s1mple is stuck on the deagle >If you take device off of Astralis that team is still a top 3 team, if you take s1mple off of NaVi that team wouldn't be even top 10. Really there's no argument for device being better than s1mple other than device's team being better... which really doesnt matter because it's a player list not a team ranking
2019-01-22 00:58
#166
TaZ | 
Poland laczyslaw 
fanboy 0 iq
2019-01-22 02:02
newfag still baiting? nothing new
2019-01-22 02:09
D:
2019-01-30 19:28
#168
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United States jay_320 
Simple had +1000 K/D. That's the only argument you really need. I think Simple is a fucking douchebag but to argue he wasn't the best individual player this year is idiocy of the highest form.
2019-01-22 02:30
It's individual best player. Not Best player on the team with the most trophys.
2019-01-22 02:31
deserved, but s1mple too both just best
2019-01-22 02:33
expected from smithzz fan
2019-01-22 02:40
Respecte l'homme qui a donné un major à ton pays
2019-01-22 02:57
#181
NiKo | 
India a1adeen 
+1
2019-01-22 03:49
Ahows how much you know. Zeus and Edward get hero aks more lol
2019-01-22 03:39
#180
NiKo | 
India a1adeen 
Astralis and device fanboy Grow up kiddo.
2019-01-22 03:48
Okay it’s is the top 20 players not teams Simple rating 1.34 Device rating 1.25 Get the fuck over it
2019-01-22 06:49
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